Pope Sued over Shota Sex

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The pope is being sued for failing to do anything about priests who used boys under their care for sex.

A long running series of scandals in which US Catholic priests are alleged to have had sex with young boys, only to have their crimes covered up by the church hierarchy, has resulted in extensive legal action, which now targets the pope himself.

The man at the centre of this case claims he was sexually abused by Father Lawrence Murphy, who has been accused of sexually abusing hundreds of the boys under his care at a Milwaukee school for deaf children in the 1970s. Murphy died in 1998, without facing any official action from the church.

At the time, the church responded to complaints by simply moving the priest to another diocese, without pursuing any legal action against him or expelling him from the clergy.

Critics contend such treatment was routine, with priests caught at it often going on to pursue their taste for pederasty in new positions.

Complaints should have been referred to a church body then headed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who is now Pope Benedict XVI. However, the body did nothing and claimed it only heard about the case later.

The Vatican has called the claims that it knew about the affair but failed to do anything “ignoble,” and denied any wrongdoing.

The man’s lawsuit, naming the pope and several cardinals, seeks full disclosure of all such cases. He is not demanding financial compensation.

Moral improprieties in the Catholic church, particularly pederasty, have for over a thousand years been a major area of criticism.

Theories as to why it is so afflicted range from the church recruiting a disproportionately high number of homosexuals to its priests being warped by their vows of celibacy; whatever the cause, after persisting for so long it seems to have become an accepted and deeply ingrained part of Catholic tradition, at least amongst priests.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    13:21 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    are you kidding? Us Catholics have been enduring all sorts of persecution, inside and outside. First it was the Jews who view the Jesus-Worshippers as weird. Then the Romans, who view their lack of emperor-worship as atheistic, ironically enough.

    Then, when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman empire, it's persecuted by any Eastern Roman Emperor who disagreed with the pope, or any warlord who happened to hold Rome at the time.

    Then, when it barbarians think they became civilized, the kings of Europe often conflicted with the Church. Then around 1500's, Martin Luther, much like people here and throughout history, complained about abuses in the Church. Around that time, protestants sprung from the ground like daisies; John Calvin, Henry VIII, the Hugenots, Anabaptists, etc. If it's not from within,then it's the Muslims from without- the Barbary Pirates, the Turcs, the Mongols, the Arabs.

    500 years later, we have the mass media and exploding vans, internet experts with unwarranted self importance, all participate in a circle jerk as to who can shout all sorts of threats and insults the loudest in the internet against the Catholic Church.

    In the future? What do you mean in the future? When our Lord Jesus Christ comes back, the Catholic Church will be dissolved, because its purpose was to be a sort of a band aid until He gets back. You know how band aids get gross and dirty, and stuff.

    What is a church-going Catholic like me doing in Sankoku? Well, I WAS trying to masturbate to fictional 2-d characters, but apparently everyone is too busy trying to fellate Richard Dawkins and company for me to get a proper orgasm.

    Should I feel bad because you think I'm a hypocrite? Nope. We're all a bunch of hypcorites, in one way or another. None of us are perfect, after all. It's just that absurd to think that one forum is more true than the other.

    A person's soul is their own responsibility. God will be the ultimate judge, not the Pope, not the Saints, and God forbid, not the scum that inhabit this hell.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:46 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know u got abused there.

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    Comment by Miroku74
    19:50 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can hear the cries of an abused altar boy in there somewhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:11 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    strangely enough? I never was an altar server. I didn't want to actually WORK on a Sunday. Parents wanted me to, but then I threatened them with becoming a priest, and they changed their minds, because they want grandchildren.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:21 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ewe the priest went for that nasty boy? but in the first place that's horrible and wrong

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:32 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    it's like.. pointless to rage about it, actually, from any side. The world is absurd, why would there be any outrage? It's expected that some men just love little boys, some love 2-dimensional fictional characters.

    It seems like the person who made this article has to cling to what hate he has for the Catholic Church or any religion because when given absolute freedom, he wouldn't know what to do with himself, probably masturbate, and even that wouldn't be so satisfying after a while. Get a woman, then abandon that when it gets old. That's the key to happiness, to attach yourself to something until it's gone, then be angry, then move to something else, and repeat that cycle.

    I mean suppose the Catholic Church DID become abolished? Then it's about the Muslims. Then the Jews, then the Buddhists, then the Hindus, until the only thing left to hate are the Amish.

    Then what? In a world full of Atheists, I'm certain that someone will come up of a reason to hate another group within that larger group. "It's those damn weak Atheists! They're getting a free ride to what Explicit, Strong Atheists have fought for!"

    It goes on, and on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:30 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "I mean suppose the Catholic Church DID become abolished?"
    Then a few hundred new branches of Catholism would be born. Nothing new, happens with religions all the time. The reason why it hasn't happened already to the same extent as with other branches spawned from it, is the focus on the Vatican and the Pope. They have amassed a great amount of wealth and power over the time it has existed.

    As an atheist, though not a "militant" one, I don't see religions ever dissapearing from humanity. Some people simply need to feel there is a Big Brother (or "Sky Daddy") that's watching their every move and rewarding them for the good things they do, in order to feel it's worth it and worth not just obeying their antisocial whims and impulses. (no, seriously, it is freakishly disturbing every time I hear or read Christian commenters say that if there is no god then they might as well be raping and murdering since nobody's keeping count... So the rest of the humans matter that little?! Why would anyone be so sick as to prefer your fellow man be mutilated rather than happy for being treated decently?!)

    The problem I personally see with religion is the amount of power they have. If people had religion as hobby, the same way others have Lovecraftian mythoses or the stories of the norse gods, or the greek/roman gods, then all would be well. If it inspired them to become better people, it would be swell. If people came together to celebrate the stories of Jesus or whatever, as inspirational myths that made them better people, that would be pretty cool. But that isn't what the three major religions do. Yes, there are a few secular branches that are like that, but those are too few.

    Abolishing the Catholic Church, would not result in the end of Catholism. Just the end of it in its current incarnation. Thousands of new versions of Catholism would be spawned, and hopefully some of those versions would be far more amazing and benificial to humankind than it's old version.

    That said, the Catholic Church isn't likely to get abolished. It will probably just get some downsizing and changes in older policies to prevent things like this from happening again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:25 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really don't think that heads of religion are on the same level as power-mongering politicians are. If you look at political figures, they are mostly in it for themselves, personal gain- it's apparent, with the cutthroatery and the underhanded alliances they make. They scheme too much. In the case of the Pope, they have learned their lessons after centuries of temporal rule. (We Catholics actually had Popes that went on military campaigns, etc.) In the case of the Dalai Lama, he stated if atheists find a way to disprove all religion and convince people of their reasoning, then he personally would abolish it, and Tibetans would go back to a shamanist way of life.

    Power-mongering betrays the purpose of Pope, which is to keep the Catholic Church together, until Jesus arrives. That's all. The Pope is a glorified housekeeper. The only reason why anyone would accuse him of being anything else is because of history, and not because of actuality. He has his power out of a set of circumstances that are not entirely his own making. When people put something on a pedestal, it's hard to really be an iconoclast.

    I guess in the case of an Atheist, waiting for Jesus is like being in the middle of the desert with people who think that they'll be rescued by an airplane that hasn't arrived as promised. The Pope is the one who keeps giving hope that the plane will arrive sometime later. The Atheist, however, is willing to walk through the desert to actually find help, even though there's an equal chance of there being nothing outside the group he leaves. It's an absurd set of circumstances, really. In those kinds of circumstances, you need to make a leap of faith in one way or another.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:41 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, it's true, what you say; If the Roman Catholic Church is abolished, Christianity will not end.

    You have:

    Shenouda III: The Pope of Alexandria, leader of the Coptic Christians of Egypt.

    Cyril I: Patriarch of Moscow and All Rus

    Bartholomew I: The Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople

    Greek Patriarch Theophilos III of Jerusalem
    Greek Patriarch Ignatius IV of Antioch
    Greek Patriarch Theodore II of Alexandria

    And many, many, many, many more.

    You remember the theory of Social Contract? People are willing to invest power in a single person for a purpose. You cannot underestimate the power of fear and uncertainty in people... They have to find some sort of escape, or some sort of anchor in an otherwise absurd world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:35 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you mean "it's about fucking time"? you think you were the first generation to see any great attacks against the church?

    In the olden days, people who had something against the church actually raised armies and marched to Rome.

    Nowadays, you have these trolls who think their opinions weight more in the world than everyone else's

    You're just a bunch of punks compared to Napoleon, who actually DID imprison a Pope. You're a bunch of punks compared to Hitler, who actually sent monks to concentration camps because of accusations of homosexuality. What did you do so far? Post comments at an internet website dedicated to women who aren't even real. "I MADE A CHANGE IN THE WORLD!" yeah right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:41 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Any wonder why Rome fell, Napoleon was sent to exile and Hitler committed suicide?

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    Comment by TSA
    02:09 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They didn't fell because of the Church, idiot.
    It is a well-organized and built structure, can be called a state (well it is, take Vatican), that, thanks to having no base region, is spreat-out everywhere, won'r fell like other empires did.
    You see, you conquer a country, kill its leaders, and its gone.
    But the Church? If you'd raze Rome, kill the Pope, so what? You still got millions of other places to go to erase it completly.
    And while empires are based on usually persons or their toughts, the Church is based on a religion and on an eternal, un-destroyable thingie, named God. It will be only killed if no one will follow it... that won't happen soon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:29 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You kill the Pope of Rome, there's the Patriarch of Constantinople and the Pope of Alexandria. Then the Patriarch of Moscow, then of Jerusalem.

    You can't win, atheists. You're all too decentralized. If you become centralized, then you'd be powerful, but then you'd suffer the same problems with centralized entities.

    It's absurd. No one wins.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:52 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Popular media focuses so much on homosexual pedophilia when there exists a proportionally larger abuse by Clergy of girls and nuns. Why is there such a witch hunt on this particular aspect of sexual abuse within the church when statistics and testimonies clearly demonstrate that most abuse is heterosexual.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Because homosexuality is wrong, ewww! I mean, you totally can't blame a man for using his power to pork a hot girl who might be a bit too young, it's only natural, after all! But a boy?! That's just unnatural and wrong, dude! Besides, good girls are supposed to never want sex anyways so fucking them when they say no is a good thing."

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    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    18:47 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your source, please? Everything I've read has put heterosexual molestation at about 1/3 of homosexual.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:17 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    And yet people would make fun of Michael Jackson when the Catholic Church did it first....

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    Comment by Anonymous
    07:49 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In ireland "fallen" women were sent to magedeline academies to be instructed in how to be proper women by priests and nuns.

    If only the Irish watched hentai...then they'd know what the nuns and priests were doing to those poor women.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    08:55 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Karma's a b*tch, ain't it..?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:50 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well sounds like no money, so i'm all game for it. I feel the church should have to publically admit to what has happened. then either fire the preists that have been guilty, or at least have them do as all sex offenders have to do and tell the whole town and congregassion that they are a registered sex offender. and do this to any new town they move to and work.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:45 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh GAWD!!!, PLEASE GIVE YOUR PRIESTS SOME FUCK BUDDIES, IF YOU ARE NOT SADIST

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    Comment by Myballz
    10:17 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what Nun's are for yet the Church has to keep it privite from the outside world?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wtf, the man has his own fucking sovereign nation and has motherfucking swiss guards protecting him. if I were him, I would laugh my ass off, and then drink the blood of a virgin girl.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:09 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Scarlet and the Black 2 xD

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:34 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    that priest in the picture looks like he's about to tap some ass

    Sing those high notes for me, boy

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:39 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hate to tell you, but the fact that this is a "Catholic priest ONLY phoenomena" is a total sack of BS perpetrated by mass media.Until about 20 years ago such things were not reproted by the media or discussed publicly, or outside of the parties involved.Cases of molestation going back up to 70 years are finally being brought to light by victims that have suffered in silence for decades, but rarely could or would talk about what had happened to them because of the shame,ebarassment, and stigma that wereassociated with such things until it became "socially acceptable"(said facetiously)to finally be able to discuss the subjects in a publicly.It's society's own fault those who suffered from such abuse felt they never could seek help or talk about the abuse,and something far,far from limited to Catholic priests,the Catholic religion, or any religious faith at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:23 08/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    people here are just pissed since they all got fooled there was a santa and now recent every present you get as an adult. beetchaz.
    same christian system being bad mouthed
    is the same one giving the victims in the U.S.
    the right to sue. Doubt they would be as lucky
    in countries where you can get stoned to death
    or decapitated for even looking at someone wrong.
    thats right, drive the attention away from
    all the loliconers here and focus it on the
    old horny priest cliche.
    like thats new.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:24 09/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    this post has nothing to do with anime or asian anything. sankaku stirring up sheeat again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:01 16/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Religion is a fail story. End of story.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:49 01/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nothing is really new - the Catholic church has long lost any semblance of moral or spiritual authority through corruption, carnal and material.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:26 28/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If it comes out that Pope John Paul II also did little boys I'm gonna be crushed because he seemed like someone you could hang out with.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Chris Hansen; Dateline NBC.
    why don't you have a seat?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:48 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What does one expect? People NEED sex. It is not a want.

    When you lead a life of celibacy your needs aren't met, and you turn to the closest thing for intimacy. If this wasn't true, a monk wouldn't have been caught fucking a dog.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:44 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, people NEED religion. Atheists just have a religion they would like to disassociate with what most people think of tradition.

    Think about it: Do complicated mathematical equations disproving God mean anything to you, if you think that those equations are just a bunch of mumbojumbo that equally makes no sense as the person who claims that bread and wine are the body and blood of some jew?

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:45 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    People NEED religion like wives NEED to be beaten by their husbands. Seriously... think before you type.

    Oh, and theism is religion, and atheism is the absence of theism, ergo atheism is not a religion. There are theistic religions, of a multitude of diverse theosophy; but a religion can still be a religion without a deity present in it's ideologies. In summary: there are atheistic religions.

    Also, there are no complicated mathematical equations disproving "God" because there are no remit of evident and ontological coherency to create a framework in which disproof and refutation make sense. In summary, the term "God" is meaningless and the intellectual world doesn't bother with it because two things already displace it's occupation: Occam's Razor and the Null Hypothesis.

    Yet I doubt that anyone who thinks that "people
    NEED religion" has the cognitive girth to contemplate the common sense behind the ridicule of such an asinine statement.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:22 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ur a fucking moron! if ur relgious and need religion then so be it! BUT DONT CLAIM FOR A MINUTE THAT I NEED RELIGION! UR FUCKING STUPID! I DONT OVER DRESS AND WAKE UP EARLY TO PRAY TO A ZOMBIE JEW! I DONT PRAY OR ASK ANYTHING OF MYTICAL CREATURES! U DO! NOT ME! I DEPEND OF MY OWN STRENGTH AND THE PEOPLE I CHOOSE TO SURROUND MYSELF WITH! UR A FUCKING RETARD! THEIR IS NOTHING RELIGIOUS ABOUT WHAT I DO!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:32 25/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is why the life of a priest is really exclusive.

    Celibacy is a discipline, not Dogma.

    Unfortunately, when people open schools for priests (seminaries) it discounts the fact that individuals are different from each other, because all priests learn the same thing about intellectual, philosophical stuff, but not the life-stuff, the things that a person has to go through as a flesh-and-blood human being, rather than this walking repository of knowledge.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:59 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know that boy from the pic couldn't got raped as ulgy and retarded as he is...

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    Comment by g0dslay3r
    05:39 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    its because hes ugly and retarded that no one will believe him if he ever said anything

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:57 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Amazing how it is so easy to blame the entire Catholic church but if you blame the entire Muslim church (?) you're a racist and you are also generalizing.

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    Comment by thanto_
    16:02 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's easy to blame the Catholic Church, because the leadership of that organization has been shown to perform and cover up child abuse in a well organized and executed manner. The problem is institutional. Seems pretty simple to me.

    You can't really compare that to Sunni or Shiite sects of Islam, because there is no institutional rape of children or cover up thereof in either sect.

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    Comment by Lyzander
    04:07 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Amusingly enough, you proved your own point regarding people generalizing.

    Catholicism is a denomination of the Christian religion.

    Islam similarly has many denominations, such as Sunni, Shiite, and Sufi Islam.

    Remarks against Catholics or the entire Roman Catholic Church (the largest denomination of Christianity) would be more akin to remarks against Sunni Muslims or the Sunni branch (the largest denomination of Islam).

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:38 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Remarks against Catholics or the entire Roman Catholic Church (the largest denomination of Christianity) are generally true

    fixed

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:51 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Remarks against the Roman Catholic Church, having mostly been coming from people who have a vendetta against the church, are usually hard to believe. Yes, many problems exist within the church, but to say that the entire Roman Catholic Denomination is guilty of everything people say it is? A lot of the claims have been overblown many times in the past, and I wouldn't doubt if, at any point, this is also overblown to some degree.

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    Comment by Kelvin
    04:05 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's weird that no action is taken. They just apologise, apologise and apologise, at least that's what I've read in the news.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:43 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Pope sent a formal letter of apology to the churches in Ireland. Sure, it's an apology, but it's better than Pope Benedick denying any claims that this scandal is a reality.

    I wish Pope John Paul were here. -_-

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Child molestation almost never has anything to do with homosexuality (or any other sexual preference). That's like saying prison rape is all about everyone behind bars being gay.

    It's about power. You give someone authority and a huge supply of people under their foot, and things like this will happen. There were also cases in which little girls were violated as well.

    Way to be objective.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:19 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He was listing reasons people use.

    From saying it was only the secretly gay priests to celebacy warping people.

    Those are the reason people use to say why pedo priests rape.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:31 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Most of these priests are not 'raping' (unless you count statutory rape, which should not even be a crime) anyone.

    As I keep pointing out: ONE THREAT to tell an adult on these people, and these people would BACK OFF!

    These relationships are C O N S E N S U A L! And a bunch of idiots just don't want to take responsibility for allowing a priest to have sexual relations with them, and are whining about it to get some money out of the church years later.

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    Comment by Ikuhisashiku
    11:20 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @anon 5:31
    The only thing I'd like to point out is this --
    What about the times when the relationship isn't consensual? Now, don't get me wrong. I'm all for consensual relationships, and I also think statutory rape shouldn't be a crime if consent was given by both involved. Yet and still, what about the cases when they are merely coerced into the relationship? Or what about when they're just too slow to simply say no?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:56 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eternal damnation in hell AND your parents being disgusted by you and shunning you forever because you're brazen enough to tell such lies/reveal that you are that tainted... or just STFU and do as the unpleasant link to God tells you becase what they say is the right thing?

    You have to keep in mind, that the awareness of child rapes and molestations in the church is a fairly recent thing. 50 years ago, if you would have dared to speak such filth about a holy man of God, you would have been in serious shit and be considered to sprout vile lies about that man of cloth. Priests have always been given exceptional trust by their flock, as they are their shepherds and connection to God.

    TL;DR: Breed and reinforce sheep-mentality among your group, and sheep mentality you will get - making the weak be even more vulnerable for predators.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:55 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon, you speak like you've witnessed these events first hand. Oh...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:20 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry, but no, 'child molestation' (which I could call adults having sex with adults 'adult molestation') is NOT about power.

    In fact, the truth is that the CHILDREN have all the power in those relationships, because ONE WORD to their parents or an authority figure? BOOM! That person is in danger of being killed or injured, whether or not the relationship is consensual.
    That puts ALL the power in the hands of the child in question.

    It is simply time to realize that pedosexuality is a NORMAL sexuality, and move on past the bullshit that the religious losers keep trying to push on us.

    Simple fact: WE ARE BORN WITH GENITALS, THEREFORE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USING THEM FROM BIRTH OR SOON AFTER. SINCE THERE IS NO FORCEFIELD BETWEEN ADULT AND CHILD GENITALIA, IT IS OBVIOUS THAT NATURE EXPECTED ADULTS AND CHILDREN TO HAVE SEX TOGETHER!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:43 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you one of those homosexual priests?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:27 24/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, keep on downrating, but the fact is that you simply do not like the simple truths of the world.

    I can speak on this subject better than ANY of you jackasses, having had sex with adults as a child and LOVING IT!







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