China Anime Fakes “Cost Japan $2.5 Billion in 2009″
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Apr 2, 2010 03:46 JST
- Tags: Anime Goods, China, Copyright, Crime, Made in China, Marketing, Otaku, Politics
The Japanese government has announced that by its calculations the Japanese anime industry suffered some 240 billion yen in “lost” sales due to Chinese piracy and counterfeiting. The Japanese government indicates it intends to press China to crack down.
The figure, announced by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, refers to products, such as DVDs or anime merchandising, subjected to physical piracy and counterfeiting in the PRC.
The ministry arrived at the figure with the aid of a Japanese think-tank who conducted surveys of Chinese buying habits, extrapolating from the results an estimated national figure.
Amongst their findings was that only 20% of Chinese anime fans refrained from buying merchandise they knew to be illegitimate.
The ministry’s intellectual property section expresses its intent to request action be taken, but given China’s record on respecting intellectual property rights, or any other kind of rights, few would hold out much hope of them doing anything.
Whilst the methodology used to arrive at the figure might be suspect, few could doubt that vast amounts of fake anime products originate in China, and that the Chinese government does little to prevent such activity. Many would also suspect it tacitly encourages such activity.
Indeed, with fake goods also being exported in huge quantities and with plagiarism also a major problem, the real figure may be substantially higher.
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oh its china again o_o
Yes they are. And, after clicking the "a major problem" link, I just discovered that I own a bootleg Miku nendroid.
Indeed, China can fake everything, can rips-off anything, can copy all the things with fake price and fake quality.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/11/fake-miku-vs-real-miku/
Now that's a good fake.
Surely if China can copy wholesale cars such as BMW, Honda and Toyota, then they can make some good figure copies...
Fakes are everywhere, specially in places where people wouldn't be able to afford the "real thing".
I've been a long fan of anime ever since I was a child, but there's no way I could afford an item imported from Japan when i was like, 8.
"hey mom, get me this 100$ figure I want"
She'd laugh at me and talk reason to me.
I should have known $15 was too good to be true.
I was saved by that post few months back when i want to buy that Miku. Thank you Sankaku.
Made in China...Haaah~
china ftw
can't wait for the "エイプリルフール！"
funny how every company complains that China pirates there stuff, and then keeps all their manufacturing there.
I got a fake Nagato Bunny Girl figure from EBay, I was skeptical but at the time I hadn't bought many anime figures, especially through such shady dealings as Chinese and Hong Kong EBay stores.
But, it was a valuable lesson and I haven't been fooled again. At least the figure looked okay too, I guess :)
Must suck (mentally) to know you have a bootleg miku....but ah well.
Yeah that figure is one of the worst ones for bootlegs, I got one too, but paid like $44.00 for it from what I thought was a good seller but it was an obvious fake, luckily they refunded my money. I guess the "L" figures from Death Note are mostly fakes too.
Guess we'll need to go Japan for the real goods
Maybe all those Toyota Prius cars which are experiencing "sudden run-away" in the U.S. are China fakes, too.
and i'm very sure none of you download fansubs.
Fuck China, it's about time Japan Took out the Gundams and took over the world.
It's like I can hear the QUARITY Saber's thoughts when I saw it. "Lol wut, wth am I?"
The face says it all.
The sad truth is that Vendors sale these products at Conventions to unsuspecting consumers at the same price.
let the buyer beware
FUCK YOU CHINA!
JUST FUCK YOU!
I just love it when you China-haters rage like that. You may laugh at the supposed "low quality" products, but i get a hard-on with the knowledge that China is overtaking Japan's GDP, and the sight of Toyota's president bowing and apologising for their deadly defects.
Also, not a China resident here. Just being a Malaysian Chinese who is proud of his cultural heritage and motherland.
Your country makes shit products. They also take away jobs by offering labor and products of dirt cheap. They're like the rest of the world's Mexicans.
So, tell me Malaysian Chinese, if there is a conflict between China and Malaysia, who are you going to fight for?
malaysia has no identity, its pretty much another territory of china
FUCK YOU AND YOUR FAKE VAGOO TOO, YOU DAMN TRAP!!! YOU MUST BE A CHINESE OR SOMETHING FOR FOOLING ME WITH FAKE GOODS LIKE THAT!!!
The problem is that I'd buy real products, except they're soo much more expensive due to shipping etc. A Rin nendoroid costs aroudn 250 rmb here but only 150 rmb in Japan because of Tax and shipping.
Also, how many of you download fansubs?
They aren't our sponsor. As I understand it their "Asia" versions are just legitimate but slightly lower priced Japanese versions.
You have a source for them shipping fake figures?
chinese products is marketed to poor otakus
Even Pyramid Head wouldn't touch that sh*t...
So...China steals stuff and people start saying the chinese are thieves.
Then I guess black people are murderes, white people are racists, koreans are idiots, japanese are horny racists, russians are all men, germans are jew haters and so on
u know, u got the horny racist Japs right, for some of them
How the hell are people satisfied with chinese quality though???
Its stupidly obvious that the second one is a fake...
Most chinese fakes don't look that bad.. if you wanna see them go to ebay.. they all look real good but are made with cheap crap they'll fall apart under their own weight in 3 months (i know i bought one by accident.. only cost 20 cents though..)
hahahah yea XD,...[uff thanks god that argentina empresaryes dont like anime :S]
Oh no, not this China thing again! And poor Saber, she is a victim of a Chinese piracy.
If the Japanese would translate their websites in English, make it easier for foreigners to buy, and wouldn't sell so many limited items, I wouldn't have to buy my anime goodies from Chinese websites that do offer all those things.
whatever they're translated or not, japanese sites don't ship overseas anyway
Oh.. thanks actually. this case is rly bad. esp. whenyou spend a lot on the figure.
and this ain't no pirated cd, this one hurts a lot more than that.
Wonder if they ever heard of QUALITY difference..
I remember that Saber...
I still LOL every time I see that derp-face.
She should appear as the next boss in the next Silent Hill game...That face would fit right in~
I'm surprised it hasn't been said yet, but ...
Sader is woe.
Among the few things China CAN'T fake; an orgasm
saber looks deformed OAO
She's auditioning for the next Silent Hill boss monster...
isn't everything made in china?...
which reminds me that most of anime goodies sold here in Sarkoland are actually 'made in China/Taiwan', using fanarts for posters and stuffs (instead of official arts), or anime/characters names being intentionally misspelled as if they were thinking that would protect them from lawsuits...
Funny thing is that when in Taiwan ppl warned me to watch out for bootlegged figures from Hong Kong/China. But I usually avoid the whole mess by directly buying from the source.
Btw, is direct shipping from Japan that costly?
i don't know about yours but in my country, direct shipment from japan is cheaper than buying the same thing locally.
Same thing here. I saved like 50 bucks ordering from Japan than buying it from store locally. But it all depends on where you live.
Neither the Americunts nor the Japanese 東夷 can't do anything about this.
So stop bitching around and accept the fate as China's bitches.
Why does anyone give a shit if China pirates anime?
With the internet and torrents, the piracy of anime is worldwide.
2.5B Yen is a drop in the bucket compared to what they're losing to p2p programs like Winny.
Ah...China...=_=
China do copy ? , not posible !
Japan: stop pirating our animes!!!
China: no
Japan: ...
China: ...
China: lulz its just cartoonz otafags
Well, I wouldn't say all of the fakes are coming from China nowadays. Apparently there a number of them coming out of Thailand, especially on eBay.
Sounds like how the music industry calculates their losses.
Every copy = loss of full price of the original product.
They wouldn't be buying as many with the japanese price tag on them.
Alter makes great quality figues even Gashapon / Shokugans have quality in par with Figmas.
Such as the Shown FA4 Typemoon collection Saber. :D
fakes are in fact everywhere, its horrible how they charged me one time with a Haruhi doll which I found out was a fucking fake. Gotta watch out guys, gotta watch out.
I cant believe people wans to buy smth that shitty!!!!!!!!!
Look at the china's product... It looks shitty compared to japan's!
Err 95% of the figures you find in Japan are made in China. The chinese factories are simply using the moulds illegally.
S1观光团到此一游~拜邪神涨工资！！
Chinese innovation:
1. Steal stuff from other countries
2. Release within own country as revolutionary product made within China
3. Get on high horse and pretend you made the greatest discovery in human history
4. Repeat as needed
That Shinese (remember, the proper call is Shina, not China) is best slaves, as their so-called double standard free reign will mess things up and pirates everything.
I think only 5% of the world abstains from using software they know to be illegitimate.
"240 billion yen in “lost”"
Are these mathematically correct billions or the English billions?
who the hell said that chinese people doesn't like anime now?
why did they have to fake everything T____T
holy shit my eyes are bleeding from image 2
who the FUCK would buy that shit
God Damn Sader...
I don't think any sane person who loves anime PVCs/figures buy any china-made fakes like the horridly-made Saber figure pic posted.
There are lots here in an anime goods and games shop in our local mall, from cheap to insanely pricey.
Oh, since nendoroid figures are so popular nowadays, there are also fake nendoroid products there too! And you almost can't tell the difference by just looking at the box, coz the prints on the box is blatantly well-copied! You can only tell by inspecting the figure itself straight outside from the box. But since the staff won't let me see the actual product real close unless I actually buy it, I didn't even bother. And the suggested price doesn't even come close to the pricing of the original.
you know this china japan thing it reminds me of me an Nigeria I refuse to call that nest pyramid schemes ,violence and prejudice my motherland sure I,m black and I,m pretty sure somewhere in africa my ancestors still roam but I'll be dawned If they're Nigerian
It's sad that somebody would want to buy something that looked like the lower image in the first place.
yet another proof, my friends, that china is not really good at anything nor original about anything.
i bet these chinese dont even know how to fuck themselves
Fake men. Their everything are fake!
most Chinese otakus have no choice but to buy fake.
1 even some 'real' products are Make In China, but they can't be purchased until they are shipped to Japan.
2 if I want to buy the 'real' products, go to Akihabara myself, there're no other ways; don't even think about buying them through the internet, after you pay and then the package is delivered to China, the CIQ will take it.
pretty shoddy workmanship :/
if you least wanna copy someone do it better
That Chinese figure is so malformed. It's almost comical.
believe or not. that particular Saber figure has become a sort of legend on chinese interwebs
I remember when I used to buy my Pokemon figures online. They would look like such cheap knock offs.. even the head and lower body popped off.
why would you by something with such terrible if not no craftsmanship at all...I can't understand that. I wouldn't want something like that set up in my room at all 0_o
I bet it's $2.5B after adjusting to the Japanese market, not from the Chinese black market. If the black market were to be abolished, I then ask myself the question; can those people consume as much as before, AND pay for it? Did they ever have that money to begin with?
I believe with or without a black market, nobody would see that $2.5B. So after millions of legal costs, all the Anime companies can really do is shut out their fans. Is that good business sense?
Is it me or did you just ask yourself alot of stupid questions?
since you failed to counter any of my points, it' you.
我是来拜邪神的
阿布拉马。。。
OTL
I kinda like Sabers(Chinese) expression...
(In a comedic way of course)
I agree, she has a certain "appeal" that makes her more unique than perfectly mass-produced ones. Not that I would show her along my other Sabers, but I wouldn't mind hiding her on a dark corner of my collection as a guilty pleasure and "inside joke".
BTW, am I the only one who finds some semblance to those British stop-motion movies with putty characters?
no, actually, you are not the only one...
Sader looks as good as ever. Like you I would love to own her- except I'm afraid of getting fakes. Hard to tell esp w/ Sader.
But if I ever get one, I'll put her right next to Saber lily- should be an awesome pairing.
This chinese saber is obviously saying:
DERP
There are also quality fakes/rip/whatever you want to call them. You just need the time to shop and either way I rather have an entire shelf of decent quality fakes over one legit PVC figure.
Just so you know most legit figures are made in China anyway but I guess they undergo thorough Quality check procedures...
yepe so true
this is not only with PVC figures all the real and fake products are been make of there.
instead of complain the makers is best to be angry to the buyers that buy from not the legal shops.
What part of "counterfeit" don't you understand? The whole point is that they are meant to be indistinguishable.
Although i believe that buying a figure would definitely embarrass me, i think that china should simply be burned to the ground for allowing such innocent looking objects to be made of hazardous materials. And the fact that they're doing almost nothing to deter this and piracy makes me just want to see chinese communism roll over and die.
"Although i believe that buying a figure would definitely embarrass me"
c'mon, even a miku figure ?
Why would buying a figure be embarrassing? If anyone ask just tell them it's a miniaturized sculpture of high value. They don't need to know the details.
Face it Anon- your in denial. Time to come out from that closet ;D.
The problem is too that if no one buys it then they will not produce it == enough people buys them, so they will produce more fake stuff...