Top 10 Signs a Guy is a Loser
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Mar 24, 2010 06:54 JST
- Tags: Dating, Fashion, Money, Otaku, Rankings, Relationships, Ronery, Statistics
Younger Japanese women surveyed as to what traits they consider warning signs that a man is unsuitable dating material and has no girlfriend yield up a potentially helpful list of things an unpopular man might wish to pretend to avoid doing.
1. He splits the cost of a meal evenly down to the last yen
2. He always speaks or acts negatively
3. He spits on the ground
4. He only talks about himself
5. His clothing is unkempt
6. He throws his cigarette butts away in any old place
7. He doesn’t actively converse, instead just waiting for questions from others
8. He makes blatant dirty jokes
9. He pretends to know everything
10. When serving meals he only thinks about getting his own portion
So it seems a clean, well mannered man who spends money like water (on his lady friend) is the ideal type – a truly surprising revelation.
Refer also to similar rankings on such crucial topics as how best to chat a girl up on a first date for complementary information.
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Now I want to go to Japan...
So a guy who does none of these is automatically a winner, or less of a loser? These lists are bullshit and mean absolutely nothing.
What it'll come down to is what has held true in society for generations: money, looks, personality. Simple basics like these things are the ones that stand the test of time.
...I would just like to point out that getting laid doesn't make you any less of a loser if you were considered one prior to getting any. The fact that you got any at all says nothing about the circumstances between the two people in the first place. Tiger Woods gets it regularly, yet he's no better than any dude one could pick up on the street after his exploits came to light.
A person's character is the most important thing, not their income or prestige (or lack thereof). If you really have to evaluate a person's overall worth based on completely arbitrary, trivial things, that says a lot more about you than it does about the other person.
^ this
Then what makes for a good character?
Why ask what should be obvious? Someone who's conscientious, open minded, faithful, honest, nurturing - less than half of this list even challenge these virtues and still aren't a guarantee.
Great comment!
I have to agree with this. Allow me to explain why:
1. Gives impression of OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder)
2. Obviously its annoying. No one wants a frequent nagger.
3. Gross slob.
4. Ego issues. Most ronery people don't notice that this is actually bad since a lot of them think it's ok from some anime they see i.e. everything revolves around the main character. You have to learn to go with the crowd and not expect them to revolve around you.
5. Slob and possible signs of laziness.
6. I think this depends on the country.
7. The other person gets turned off because they get the impression that you're not interested or you're boring them.
8. Pervert and sometimes ego issues. Common to some otaku who make up for their lack of female contact by acting like a sex expert. They should learn that normal well rounded people do not "kiss and tell".
9. Again ego issues.
10. Selfish.
Shit.......I Got #2 & #8
Does that mean I'm a loser? :(
6. He throws his cigarette butts away in any old place
Cigarette butts don't really matter to us in the west but yeah I'd have to get used to not throwing my butts everywhere if I went there.
10. When serving meals he only thinks about getting his own portion
And hey well, I am a skinny yet hungry man. I serve others first of course, but the biggest serving is usually mine.
Don't say West, say America, in most places in Europe, littering is frowned upon. I've seen people carry keychain little box ashtrays, so they wouldn't throw their butts all over the place. It's quite civilised really.
damn im 5 out of 10... half loser half legit!!!!
...and before I forget: I would love to see a woman come up with a top ten list of things that make a woman a loser.
Lol, may I? Though I focused on more serious stuff then the superficial ones:
1. Expecting the man to pay, all/most of the time.
You can't expect respect if you're basically whoring yourself for sandwiches. Once in a while, special occasions - fine. But don't expect a walking meal ticket.
2. Expecting money/expensive presents.
I fucking hate these bitches - they tarnish women's reputation in general. You can't "expect" stuff and have any expectations yourself. You're basically a whore.
3. Talking intimate details about your boyfriend with friends/internet.
Sadly, I've been a witness to this and I find it appauling and disgusting. And sadly, the stuff they share is presented in a mocking tone.
4. Using sexual manipulation to pussify a man.
Sadly again, I see guys falling for this ALL the TIME. Decent blokes ending up wrapped around the fingers of some bitch. I see them slowly getting smaller, and more emasculated, as the bitch ends up governing the dudes' lives.
5. Having NO hobbies or interests whatsoever.
Most guys don't seem to care about this, but trust me, they'll only end up expecting you to entertain their vapid little heads 24/7 - huge hassle.
6. Wears tons of make-up, and tons of extensions.
Do you really want to wake up and see a totally different person? And by different, I mean ugly.
7. Debbie downer
8. Bad hygiene.
9. Thinks she knows everything.
10. (personal pet peeve - sociopath alert) Acts mean to children, old people, animals, other women.
Heh, we need to talk.
Thank the lord I'm guilty of none of them.
Nothing wrong with that list.
I've noticed in the comments here there's a lot of "taking things the wrong way" and bitterness based on that.
Item #1 doesn't mean "men pay for everything". It means, "when 'going Dutch' [each party paying for their own], don't be super-anal about precision." "Okay, honey, you need to put in seven more cents." just doesn't fly.
I thought the 'loser' aspect was well-illustrated in the photos.
* Computers with the cases off
* Cluttered and disorganized
* Dakimura
* Ero-figurines
There were some good-looking meals, though the low-cal sweetener was a laugh. Get off your otaku ass and exercise!
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You want to talk about other people taking this list the wrong way, but you're asserting your own interpretation of what something on that list meant. If anything, this seems like a convenient scapegoat to bash an entire demographic you know nothing about because you yourself are bitter. Did otaku call you ugly or something? And of all the things you've taken notice of in those photos, I can't for the life of me understand how a computer with its case detached is relevant.
A few things such as the nasty habit of spitting should be a common sense turnoff, but that is not something that should determine a person's value. You can dislike the way a person looks, the way they dress, the kind of music they're into, etc; but there is so much more to a person than certain mannerisms which are, quite frankly, too oversimplified and too far-reaching for its own good. I for one would loathe to date someone with as toxic an attitude such as yours.
can't agree with you more savantique, no matter how many otaku bashings i see, i'll never understand why. So what if the person in the picture is an otaku, are you him/her? if not, stop concerning yourself with what he/she does. Not everyone is the same, its called diversity, get used to it.
computer with cases off - maybe they are fixing it? cause you know, computers are really popular these days and everyone is getting into them >_>.
cluttered and disorganized - everyone is cluttered and disorganized at times, to deny that means your a liar, cause at some point in your life, you wont find something cause you put it elsewhere, or you put things in a storage shed ( thats considered cluttering things together)
ero figurines - its the persons taste, its the same thing as you looking at porn, get over yourself.
damm im more of a loser then i thought
>"who spends money like water"
Prejudice to the poor, eh...?
Anon is not infected by all those 10 things, so Anon is the perfect man in Japan? Hell yeah!
so basically...unless we put the pussy on a pedestal we're considered losers...?
I don't think so japan.
wtf ? seriously how can some1 be a loser over these things ?
seriously >?
who ever made this is a damn stupid idiot
Hurt much?
Most of these are understandable.
If you do 3. and 6. you're slob.
1. A penny pincher but this same type of person also could be an accountant which is a good thing esp during tax time.
I tried to avoid any ethnic jokes here.
4. Is understandable someone self absorbed can be annoying for either sex.
5. If it means cloths are put away messily that's most men.
7. Nothing wrong with being quiet or shy some girls like the strong silent type.
8. Most women are turned off by crude jokes.
9. nobody likes a know it all.
10 People do make mistakes it's only a bad thing if it happens often.
IZ DAT SUM FRIED CHICKEN IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER!?
3/10 is me...woo
Damn that whole list is about me! i'm so screwed
And again it comes down to money... All these Japanese seem to really care about is money when it comes to relationships. I don't play that game.
I can't stand people who spit all over the place. It's disgusting.
I only fit under 7, so I guess I'm not so much of a loser... right?
now do one that points out the bad traits of every girl. i'm sure thare are things that will make all the girls sound like total losers!
Well from what I see 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 10 could be just someone who has suffered a few heavy impacts to the head and has some type of brain damage and possibly always a headache that never goes away because of it. 1 and 8 = ArseHole, 9 well I don't know.
Really? That's it? I'm a bit surprised!
As this list came from Japan, i honestly expected that it contains things like:
Talks constantly about Sengoku Nadeko, his room is filled with figures, want his GF to end her sentences with Nya~, etc.
It's kinda common,imo. Heck, i don't have all those traits up there, i bet if i go to japan later my chance to score is like 342%!
weones qls enfermos
So if we are not any of those things does that mean we get a super model girl, I doubt it so why waste the time trying to be what your not if so few girls are hot enough to make it a good investment.
I will stick to been self centered and egotistical thank you very much.
#4... damn that explains alot. I thought it was so interesting too! u.u
Is it bad that I know people who posses pretty much all of these traits?
For me, it's only the first two that I would dislike in a guy. The rest are okay.
well if ur condition is as bad as offering meals to ur computer than dats real bad
ehh? having money is a gudd thing? go figure...gudd thing im well payed! lol my mommy and pappi never gave me much so i kinda had to work and earn it...unlike these youngsters, and im only 19 fuckyeah!
and please rate me down...u know ur broke ass wants to lol, lmao, LMFBO, ROFLMBFBBO*5!!! HAHAHAHA
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This completely makes sense in all honesty.
Everything expresses negative character traits, self-centeredness, bad manners, ignorance, pedantism...
The point is, these are things women shouldn't do either :D
(and admittedly, under friends, we only split the bill down to the last cent when the waitress/barkeeper/whoever does it for us, else we round it)
all i can say is i'll try ironing my clothes more often everything else shouldnt be that big of a deal just dont do it wit girls you want to date or shag thats all
According to this list I'm the coolest guy on earth.
LOVE THE WAY LIKE 9/10 COMMENTS IS A GUY, AND PISSED! LOL look, unless u honestly fit this discription my 7 or more, havent been laid in yrs and are completely broke...ur probably not a total loser...if u do then gudd luck converting to hundi and hoping to get reincarnated to anything higher than a cockroach or fatguuy analplug lol
1. He splits the cost of a meal evenly down to the last yen
I pay for my food, no one else's. Chivalry died years ago. Get over it.
2. He always speaks or acts negatively
No I fucking do not!
3. He spits on the ground
The alternative is in the face of my date...you choose honey.
4. He only talks about himself
I'm my favourite topic of discussion.
5. His clothing is unkempt
So what. I get judged by how much money I make, not by how I look.
6. He throws his cigarette butts away in any old place
See the spitting line.
7. He doesn’t actively converse, instead just waiting for questions from others
Girls, that's a dead giveaway that you have the personality of furniture.
8. He makes blatant dirty jokes
Dirty jokes are funniest.
9. He pretends to know everything
I'm not pretending. I do know everything.
10. When serving meals he only thinks about getting his own portion
Cuz I eat when I'm hungry, stupid. Whether you eat or not doesn't mean a thing to me.
I could be guilty of 7 because I think negative so the minor things are positive
number 5 is also debatable my clothing is always clean and ironed but I always dress casual (ties, suits, blazers and button shirts make me feel like a stiff)
and number seven; well if I dont share the same interests, have something relative to the conversation or can relate to the topic then off course I wont actively converse
aside from these three I'm cool!
From experience 2 and 7 are already a big turn-off. The rest is just being rude and is way more bad than 2 and 7.
On your first weeks either one of you should be positive enough to keep the communication going. Once that's is done one could go honest with each other and find out if you're not for each other.
Relationships = good communication with each other. Right?
That's not a loser, that's an asshole.
11. Visits any of the ch/chan sites.
:P
I can't believe I almost cleared that list except for No.5 =|
In my defense, I actually do my own laundry and iron my shirts and trousers myself
EDIT: Also No.7 makes me think it's more her issue than his, she's just not interesting to get to know, or doesn't make herself seem interesting.
I hope that Japanese men continue to be single, then a soon women will go elsewhere to look for hot hot sex.. Nwhaahahahahhahahha
Mostly not bad but these two jumped out at me.
"3. He spits on the ground"
Who DOESN'T do this? If the words "to look cool" were supposed to be tacked on at the end I could understand, but other than that, be honest here, everyone does this.
"5. His clothing is unkempt"
I guess I'll just go and iron my T-shirt then...
He is a otaku freack > all 10 signs.
2 and 7 :\ dammit i lost..
You forgot that "if one of his favorite websites is "Sankaku Complex" and that includes 99% of you guys here. besides anyone who frequents SC is a failure.
Of course, I don't frequent it so save all your "back at you comments" (I was lead to this site by that perv Fonzer and that inspired me to do my video on this site)
loser...u wrote way to much, tryed to dis the whole damn site, and have a profile pic for sumone claiming not to visit often...next time aim a lil smaller lil loser...
bragpervert
It's just 7 for me.
Well I admit to not being ready for dating even before I've read this article and it's more than just my inability to talk more frequently
except for spitting i have all those traits.
I got 2,5 and 7...I'm a loser....
I thought they were going to say something like: he loves an anime character or he only watch animes e reads manga...
Lol, if there is a woman fallowing this list to the letter, 'sorry' u live on planet earth, try likeing a person for who they are and not how they act... or how much they spend going out to dinner with u,
we are after all only human, we learn from our mistakes, not falter because of them.
I possess 2, but I don't think that makes me a loser. I just hate life.
Jebus, are all women in Japan gold diggers?
Every article it appears all they are interested in is cash, and how much they can get their b/f, hubby to give them.
OH HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, IMMA LOSER!!
What the hell? Why is the cover pic that of an otaku rooms and desktops? Otakus are not LOSERS!
"1" I do for a good reason. I don't mind paying, but for at least the first few dates I always insist on separate checks. This is by far the easiest way to weed out gold diggers.
ah fk that describes me pretty well.
Guilty of 3, 5, 9 and 10 :O
2,5,6,7 traits. erh, it's not like i was not aware that i am a depressive dork already. No winners without losers huh.
i always thought those were the kind off guys girls like -_-. if this is the case, how come they never go for the average nerd or otaku.
yeah I was thinking the same thing, these are the a-holes that hot women date and then complain about.
i always thought those were the kind off guys girls like -_-. if this is the case, how come they never go for the average nerd or otaku?
Cause most women are picky I say "most" cause I'm in the rare category so few of us girl otaku.
represent!
in other words you mean you are fat and spend most of your time reading Yaoi, and the rest imagining pairings of your male friends.
uh...no.
Wow what a stellar grasp you have on people :/
I suppose you fap to hentai all day and imagine the women as girls you know irl OH WAIT-
This list can't be right, none of them apply to me.
Congrats. You win.
Errr....I'm probably guilty of 5,7,8, and maybe 10.
But I agree spitting on the floor and throwing cigarette butts anywhere are certainly annoying.
Well, I'm all but number 7, but that's just because I don't smoke.
Well, and change 'yen' to 'cent', of course.
En ese caso, no hay nada que hacer. Mejor que lo dejas.
In that case, there's nothing to do. Better to leave him.
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As for how the meal should be paid, I usually go Dutch and make that very clear beforehand. Unless I WANT to treat her, why should I pay for her simply because she's a woman? Nonsense.
"6. He throws his cigarette butts away in any old place"
This one has me baffled, just what makes this one in particular a loser? Should the individual toss the cigarette at a newly constructed location then? Is it really relevant to categorize/label someone a loser. I mean really... :\
I say only 1. is a bit odd, I've never met anyone who is realy stingy down to the last cent.
>7. He doesn’t actively converse, instead just waiting for questions from others
so I'm a loser, heh ?
sorry if I'm not very talkative.
But yeah, I guess I'm wrong : the thing is that no matter how much I try I just can't bring myself to get any interest in other people's life, unlike most of women who just need to know everything about everybody so they can gossip afterwards.
Still, I'm a polite person (I believe), so when I'm asked a question, I answer it.
so according to this, I guess I must work more at faking to have interest in other people's life, and that will make me win at life... right ?
yeah it sucks for us, the people who LISTEN instead of talk all the time. I guess it might be some conspiracy that if your not talking, your plotting something terrible...or cheating on her...cause silence is guilt!
I'd rather respond to questions then talk randomly..you learn a hell of a lot more than just random chatter. As for the other ones..#1 can go both ways. In one way it shows hes a penny pincher. In another it shows that hes for equal opportunities and the girl has to pay some. #2 i can see, #3 if you have to spit, you have to spit, but you shouldn't make a habit of it, the rest aside from #7 i can see.
Right xD
i think i fit 9 of it. (except for the cigarette butt thing coz i dont smoke)
2, 4 and 7 played a major part in driving my last relationship to an end. I still grind my teeth whenever I think about it.
You've started to talk (write) without questions. It's a progress, isn't it?
What about girls? Will there be a followup list? -is one-
When I go to cafes/restaurants with my male friends...I'm guilty of #1. It doesn't seem fair otherwise. But he never lets me and always tries to ninja-pay.
So if there was a guy who would be willing to split costs down to the last yen with me I'd see that as a positive, not a turn-off. :C the fact that it's on the list makes me sad.
I'm okay with this.
About ranking #1, there are some women that would think they don't have independence if they totally rely on the guy they are dating...lol...
Well, the way that the Japanese males and females think of each other, the government will likely have to lift their restrictive immigration policies to survive...
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Stop shooting laser guns damnit
Only 2, 5 and 9 I guess...
Gotta correct that.
All of you here are losers anyway
NO U
In actuality what has been posted may be more correctly attributed to you, rather than us.
Actually going by these results, everyone on the internet is a loser...
Welcome to the club :3
You are here as well, so wouldn't that also apply to yourself?
Which would also include failure now.
yeah he's right, every anon is a loser....oh wait