The latest case of Arab child sex slavery, that of a 12-year-old girl sold to an 80-year-old man for $23,000, has led to renewed criticism of Saudi Arabia’s fundamentalist regime, but a Saudi ministry dismisses the notion that a ban is required, saying that it would be detrimental to society.
Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Teraifi, an official with Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, stresses that banning child marriage would be damaging, as it would result in girls being forced into the hijab at a later age, potentially allowing them to mix with unrelated men in a sinful manner:
“Outlawing the marriage of young girls to elderly men will have a negative effect on Saudi society as it will lead to mixing of the sexes which is impermissible in Islam.”
A series of internationally publicised “marriages” of girls as young as 8 being sold to (frequently elderly) men has seen international pressure mount on the kingdom to do something.
Even within a barbarous medieval kingdom like Saudi Arabia, calls for laws against child marriage are growing. The official warns these domestic calls for restraint are mere mass media froth:
“Much of the public discussion of the issue is based upon a few reports that have appeared in newspapers, which is insufficient reason to start campaigns to restrict such marriages.”
Saudi law is based on medieval Sharia Islamic codes, which set no lower age limit on marriage and allow marital practices considered abhorrent in the developed world.
No less a figure than Mohammed himself is said to have married a 6-year-old, though he graciously waited until she was 9 before consummating the marriage.
The ministry official affirms this, saying men should only have sex with pubescent girls:
“Age has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage contract, but consummation of marriage should be only when the bride reaches the age of puberty.”
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Prophet say; "Old enough to bleed is old enough to breed!"
Actually, he didn't say that. Someone else did.
bwahahahaha!!!!
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Here's a joke in the Arab world; Q. "How do you make your new wife cry thrice?" A. "Wipe yer shitty, bloody dick off on her teddy bear!"
Actually, I make that up, too! In RL they first take teddy bear and rip of it's head! It "Idolatry"!!! They are very against any "Immorality!"
Me vely much in humor, yes?
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Congratulations to Saudi Arabia for resisting that part of AmeriKKKan and Western KKKulture.
Enough with this stupid "Enshrinement of Children" where right until they turn well past adulthood they are "Innocent Children". Where going to bed with a 17 years and 360 days girl you might as well be ballin' babies in their cribs... Where teenagers "Sexting" themselves become both 'innocent victim' and are 'tried as adult child pornographers'. Where kids playing doctor become a "Sex Ring". Where "Thought Crime" becomes real crime with comic books.
Believe it or not, the Prophet Mohammad actually set the bar for "Higher" and "More Moral" in that department. Don't want to get into it again here, but plenty of openly practiced infinitely worse examples at the time. He set the bar at 6 and 9 and that's their law and they at least got balls not to mess with it just cause some bible bangers and "Modern women who seek to destroy men" from a soon to be ex-'first world' KKKuntry whine "Think of the Children!" as they send pedarist priests on "Missionary Work" to try to destroy all but their KKKulture.
Damn, he used to be sensible once, now he's another troll begging to be banned.
Wow your mind really got fukkked by propaganda didn't it Mr. Barbarian?
Mr. Barbarian is lame and uninteresting. He also has serious language fail.
Pheh... I feel sorry for these girls
Nation of pedo.
Will eventually burn under Jewish/American nukes.
The only question is "when".
jewnited states are AmeriKKKa ftw! :P
More like the USSA
Next time I'm caught kidnapping and having my way with a loli I'll say I was preventing intermingling of the sexes. Oh wait, that only counts if the holy institution of marriage is involved. lol religion.
Fuck Islam.
Yeah! Fuck Islam.
Peace be upon you~
We are civilized people and I do not like your comment because we have laws that are fair to all so
if you come someday to Saudi Arabia we will make sure to crush your head with a rock.
Peace to all.
:D
I see what you did there.
Who want's a loli arab anyway? she's probably trained to blow you cock off with bombs.
Middle East could really use a successful crusade against it. Like, now.
This is a prime example of what happens when you have no separation of church and state. State run religious institutions are fucking bogus.
even as a christian, i have to agree with this
no real difference between them, religious run governments just use religion as an excuse, the rest find other ways to justify the shit they do. each are just as bogus as the others. *cough* australia banning small breasts in porn *cough* *cough* attempting to ban loli manga cause the rights of 2D people supercede the rights of real people *cough*
Those Arabian people are sick fuckers man really.. Having sex with an 8yr old??? Yeah, that's the religion I'm into!! *shrug*
I hope they get what they deserve..
"I hope they get what they deserve.."
... the lolis ? :)
Any society or religion that uses children in such a way needs wiped off the face of the universe...
A 2 inch penis like mine can only satisfy a 6 year old....maybe. But if I can't have'em nobody can! Ban loli raep all over the world now!
Marry them, love them, cuddle them.
Just don't rape them, ripping them apart with your desert Johnny and force them to be child bearing vessels.
^ This, minus the marriage part, because marriage is unnecessary.
I can't help but facepalm at this article.
We need to turn all of these old men in Islam into otakus so they will truly be blessed...
*shakes fist in the air*
And maybe turn the lolis they are married into otakus as well!!!
Interesting, very interesting, a very bad society is admitting their actions are very bad for society. Time to turn over a new leaf and drop the stone age behavior. And wash your dang clothes for a change. eeeeewwwwww.
I thing they're missing the point. These marriages are a problem because the girls are forced into this.
Just nuke them.
But get all the lolis to safety first!!!
“Much of the public discussion of the issue is based upon a few reports that have appeared in newspapers, which is insufficient reason to start campaigns to restrict such marriages.”
Wow, some of these people are smarter than the idiots in britain and america.
Bad for society? Dude have you not been paying attention to whats going on in the world lately. Why don't these morons worry about things that actually matter. Besides you take away a mans favorite porn prepare to get your ass kicked across the effin globe.
I never thought Mohammed himself is a LOLICON
"OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!"
What a surprise, another pedophile on Sankaku trying to justify his urges.
Puberty is a process, just starting puberty doesn't make you ready to give birth. Deaths are a lot more prevelant with children.
"Whichever way you look at it, "childhood" is a relatively modern invention that was made possible by the Industrial Revolution - before then, children were usually just treated as small adults. It was the Victorians who developed childhood into what it is today in the West, shrouding it in mawkish sentimentality and idolizing the "innocence" of children. Whilst at the same time still visiting the child brothels that were commonplace in London and other cities."
So what are you saying, children should be given the freedom to work in brothels? The reason why we now give children a child hood, is because we have become civilised. We don't force girls into marriage against their will and we give them the time to think about who they are going to marry. Your a monster if you think children should be forced into the reality of the adult world so fast.
I have seen interviews with these girls, who have been married young and they say that they want to finish their studies. They have been forced to grow up fast by entering marriage and all say they would have commited SUICIDE, if they had to continue that life.
Oh yes we all forgot how utterly marvelous freedom is. 60% of adults aged 18-24 in the US have some form of STD. Yes clearly feminism has benefited US society. Women are subservient by nature. What Saudi Arabia is doing is in accordance with natural law.
Also women given to much freedom is a bad thing. Women are retarded and will pick the worst possible mate.The decision should be left up to the father.
Also seriously people.Rights dont exist.they're fucking made up. If alien overlords show up tomorrow we're all goanna be slaves.
That is a made up statistic, and you are an awful human being. I hope you hang yourself you backwards, sexist privileged bastard.
I hope that was sarcasm, otherwise you are a worthless piece of shit.
I agree on most things... also, the spread of STDs is only a small part of all the problems that feminism has brought.
On the last part... moralists don't understand this. They think they are right, others are wrong. They might justify this with logical fallacies (e.g. everyone says so, it has to be right), for they aren't intelligent or wise enough to realize they are wrong. They would be closer to the truth if they simply accepted that there is no right or wrong.
Why is this site so overly concerned with lolis that usually have nothing to do with Japan or even East Asia?
wait, you should say that to agnes-chan.
She will eventually get whats coming to her, when the otakus revolt, her head will probably be the first to fly. Just need someone to rally the otakus.
“Outlawing the marriage of young girls to elderly men will have a negative effect on Saudi society as it will lead to mixing of the sexes which is impermissible in Islam.”
I LOLed, hard.
"...mixing of sexes..." hahaha!
but anyway, loli for life!
I also like full-breasted women btw.
Saudi Arabia puts the FUN in FUNdamentalist
Ink kids are being raped!, EVERYONE MUST STOP THIS!... oh yeah, and in middle east real life kids are getting forcely married (or sold) but who cares... oh yes,AND WHALES!, SAVE THE WHALES FROM BEING RESEARCHED!. Just me or something is a bit wrong?
In other islamic news:
Yeah, right, and your religion is better with it's child rape and vatican state, right.
Equality now would not like this, but they're too busy bullying mangakas instead of building up an 'underground railroad' for the lolis...
Equality Now doesn't give a flying fuck about these abused little girls. They're just targeting 2D because it's easier to do and all they want is the publicity.
Besides, it's not like otakus and hikikomoris will actually run them out of their country with gunfire out of religious rage if they even dare to as much as suggest "2D lolis" be banned...
Equality now cares more about the welfare of 2D children than actual children.
These poor girls. If their wishes were taken into consideration then I might feel differently. It's just too dangerous for western feminists to mess with Islam, which is why they tend not to. Japan, on the other hand is a soft target. Mangaka do not issue fatwas.....
“Age has nothing to do with the validity of the marriage contract, but consummation of marriage should be only when the bride reaches the age of puberty.”
No consent either? I had the running notion that underage marriage was only illegal in the developed world because girls were not mature enough, from a mental stage perspective, to be able to fully commit and intellectually consent to the binding contract. That, and that most contracts require for the consummation of the contract in any case, which would of course also entail underage sex.
All in all, I really see that women have little rights so to speak in the middle-east.
They don't feel that females of any age have the right to decide consent for themselves.
You say that but it doesn't consider the variations in the age of consent in the developed world...no one has any idea when anyone is "mature" enough because there is no such thing...age rarely helps with the ability to make decisions...I know my almost 50 year old aunt who can't tell which minor she is currently carrying the child of will never truly be considered fit for consent.
So, by anon's logic, there's no way to tell if a 8 y/o girl is more mature than a 16 y/o girl when it comes to something like, say, consent for sex, or marriage (think carefully about that before going on to the next question)?
Well how about this then: does it still count as "consent" when your SOLD by your parents?
consider this:
in the west and asia, the bride must be paid for courting. in the middle east, you have to pay the family. is that really sex trade?
23k$ is a very modest sum though. i wouldn't sell myself (or my kids) that cheaply, even in a spot where 23k$ is worth much more than here.
Yeah, but the variations in consent in the West are like "hmm, 16 or 18?". Not 8, or 10, or 12.
>>"I know my almost 50 year old aunt who can't tell which minor she is currently carrying the child of"
O.o
>> within a barbarous medieval kingdom like Saudi Arabia
>> Barbarous
at least we have free health care and no taxes LOL
suck on it
Hey stupid arab anon, do you honestly think free health care and no taxes justifies treating women like dogs? Saudi Arabia is completely barbuous and ass-backwards. And don't think it's only Americans who look down on your shitty culture. EVERYONE outside of the middle east considers you to be nothing but shit.
Yeah, treating half of the population as if they are property tends to enhance life for the other half.
your statement has nothing to do with what I said as women are also exempt from taxes and receive free health care. You base your entire judgment on just a few articles you've read on the internet. Try actually going there sometime or talking to some saudi women before you suddenly decide for them that they are oppressed.
Its not like I believe all Americans are violent gun toting maniacs, that all catholic priests are pedophiles, and that every american is blonde and blue eyed.
wait....so....wait....you're saying....that it should be okay for a man to have sex with a 9 year old because it's accepted in a country?
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yeah...i have no response to that
How could you criticize America as gun totting when Islam promotes bombings, how could you critcize catholic priest as pedophiles when your prophet is a pedophile and your religion allows underaged girls to get married.
Hypocrite
They're quite desperate to protect the "sanctity" of their religion. Like most religions, if they admit their rules are wrong, the whole thing would fall apart (not to mention the very obvious benefits they get from the rules where women are concerned).
Just saying one religion promotes bombings is rather dumb, be sure come to Ireland. My supposedly home lands, if I can it that any more. Where a lot of my family members died.
Does that make me a sarcasm or a hypocrite??
That is not so surprising...
Your Dog doesn't pay taxes or pay for a visit to the vet so why should these women? /sarcasm
Indeed. 80+ year old sperm is prob not the best genetic material lying around for producing healthy people.
god knows you need that free healthcare.
Ah, traditional marriage. See how the past and its traditional family values are so much better?
This is something like an arranged marriage, with profit.
No wonder kids hate arranged marriages...
Now I don't want to move there anymore!
you will change your mind when you're 80yo
Saudi Arabia should probably run out of oil by the time he's 80yo. I wouldn't want to be there when THAT happens!
Detrimental because now the older men (who are the ones who are issuing such statements) won't have a chance at the young girls.
They're just jealous.
Yeah, like some 80 year old fart would wait some years for his loli to grow up. Sure...
A VERY Astute observation on your part :) bd
It would be nice to see the roles reversed (an older woman marrying a boy) and the massive uproar that would cause if it ever were to happen.
They just using the law and religion as a cover up for them to openly be a pedophile... what a pathetic people...
The way I see it it's not so much a land of pedophiles but rather a place that's stuck in the medieval times.
I dont really see the problem with whats going on in there mainly becouse it's nothing new nor it is in any way out of the norm. Long ago we all did that and were fine(not supporting slavery here!)
And "sex slaves" really? You really think that someone whose born in that country thinks about sex the same as you? I bet that most of them having 6 yr old wife do in fact wait for her to mature a bit.
IT IS YOU WHO WANA HAVE A SEX SLAVE and now thant thats impossible you try stopping everyone else from having something that maches your picture.
>>OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!<<
How about reading further?
"Yemen is a nation where child marriage is rife, with the government itself estimates a quarter of all girls are married by the age of 15. These girls suffer mortality rates during childbirth five times that of women in their twenties."
I don't think he'll be doing that. When 23k is PAID to parents for their young daughter, -against- her will, you could consider that selling her into slavery (or indentured servitude at best). They maintain no sex takes place til she's hit puberty, and she can decide on divorce later. But, I'm sure there's more than enough pressure from society to make sure she doesn't go anywhere, just like I'm sure that sex takes place whenever her new husband (see: "owner), wants it. Probably as soon as he gets her to his home. It's one thing to simply take advantage of naivety, another to completely take away "choice".
I love how you moralists are so wise. You know you are right and those who oppose you are wrong, and of course there are things such as "right" and "wrong". How else would you criticize the people you don't agree with?
You Sir ar a Hipocryte >:o P
Yeah, of course. If something has been around for some time, there's no problem with it.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/09/17/12-year-old-loli-bride-dies-in-childbirth/
Mature a bit = wait till 12 years old?
I fully agree with HC. The main problem with most 'civilized' representatives of the modern society is that they fail to tolerate a norm which developed under rather different conditions and hasn't evolved much as of yet. Well, hear this — no human is given human rights upon birth by nature, he is given his rights by the group of people he was born in.
If a certain norm would be unbearable and too absurd for one to follow it, it wouldn't exist for too long, as the group obeying that norm would simply rebel against it.
Foreigners never had nor will ever have a place in this.
As fas as I know human anatomy girls start having their period around ~10-12 years of age so marriage is all good at that piont becouse nature says so.
OH yes how could I ever forget that one girl who died during child birth I always keep forgetting that no mature women ever died during that!
P.S.
Modern world is full of crap becouse they underestimate kids and make them the modern day monsters while on the other hand islamic world cant seem to keep up with the fact that its ok for marriage WHEN the girl is mature enouth to have kids and not prior to that point.
Now if only you could argue away the non-consensual part of it, it might be justifiable!
pure envy just oozes...
thay just show: "if i can't have'em no one can!"
These people are using the law and religion as a tool to openly covering up the fact that they are pedophile and supporting others to be one... what a pathetic people....
For the figure himself.. dude... that thousands years ago... not now... we are now civilize and 6 years old is just too young and small... they still too innocent to know what marriage and sex is..
So their main point is;
get them young, fresh and unspoiled
Even after a few thousand years of evolution, I'm sure "humans" can AT LEAST distinguish right from wrong, even if they still dwell in the stone age
..b-but when I was 8 I was mature, and was aware of the underlying risks of sexual promiscuity. Surely this suggests that it would be unreasonable of us to conclude that all lolis are naive.
because our 6 year olds are all total retards, born of like-minded parents, unlike 6-year olds of olden times, amirite.
That double standard is just retarded, the only thing that changed between then and now is rapidly decreasing intelligence and the inevitable decisions that come with that.
Whichever way you look at it, "childhood" is a relatively modern invention that was made possible by the Industrial Revolution - before then, children were usually just treated as small adults. It was the Victorians who developed childhood into what it is today in the West, shrouding it in mawkish sentimentality and idolizing the "innocence" of children. Whilst at the same time still visiting the child brothels that were commonplace in London and other cities.
Say what you like about the Wahabi and other fundamentalist sects (and I do, often), at least they aren't as hypocritical as the Victorians.
It's not about being a retard; most of the time humanity has existed children had been taught to take adult responsibilities at a much younger age -
not because people were immoral but because it was much harder to survive.
Such laws are outdated these days, however. I'm all for free love but it's clear nobody asks girls their opinion when selling them in such countries.
"For the figure himself.. dude... that thousands years ago... not now... we are now civilize and 6 years old is just too young and small"
yeah that was back then when most people died by the age of 40 and anything past 60 is either a sage or considered something like a village elder. Not to mention the mortality rate of young births and young mothers at such a small age. The physical strain on the body is sometimes too great. We are aging and developing slower than before, not to mention the selling of young "wives" seem more like selling sex slaves.
SARCASM!?
DOWN DOWN DOWN!
A funny sarcasm is funny. Have more trust in yourself.
I'm anon 13:10
did I get voted up because you actually agreed with what I was saying or because you noticed my inherent sarcasm?
Why dont people mind their own countries business? There would be less problems within ones own country if people werent idiots and tried to mess with other countries. YES equality now, im looking at YOU.
I can abide by that if it's a simple matter of fictional girls. They need no protection, but when I hear of real lolis being forced to become loli sex slaves for perverted old men. I take issue.
These old bastards are scared like HELL to let these girls grow older, and more experienced because they would (almost) Never marry old men. If a woman wants to have kids, how the fuck is she going to get them with an 80 year old bag of bones?
You GO Girl ;D
Tbh reading this great joy fills me.... that a place exists where we can still have loli brides = epic... we can go around with weapons = epicly epic.......
I'm moving to this place when I'm old enough... ... what language do they speak??? I needa start learning it asap >_<
It sounds like screaming and puking at the same time. You might wanna practice this at your local pub but mind that once you've move there you can't do it with booze anymore.
crap, forgot to login.
Cave speak, apparently, seeing their old fashioned values. Neanderthals.