Top Mangaka Blast Loli Ban

With the likes of heavyweight mangakas like Takahashi Rumiko, Adachi Mitsuru, Gosho Aoyama and Akamatsu Ken signing their names on the list, they've pretty much told stuck-up know-it-all moralists like Equality Now to go fuck themselves.

Bravo at that.

(LOL at Yoshino Hiroyuki of the "infamous" Seikon no Qwaser on the list as well. )

"In fact, the only figures conspicuously absent seem to Shonen Jump mangaka…"

Considering that they ran To Love Ru until it's end this past august, I find it unusual there would be no representation from that end.

*thumbs up @ Watashiya*

being an lover of love hina, and a solid ken akamatsu fanatic, (he got me started on rom-com worship from what I was doing before it, shonen stagnation), I'll vote whatever he votes~

there are a lot of loli's in ken akamatsu's manga, ai love you had little sister moe loli, love hina had smily-faced koala su loli, shinobu mihara close friend loli, sarah mcdougal foreigner-loli, little sister moe loli from naru's little sister, nyamu exotic loli... Mahou sensei negima has evangeline vampire evil loli, along with an array of middle schooler goodness, doll goodness... stating the whole list of loli goodness within MSN feels like talking for a hundred years... about something wonderful...

so whatever Ken decides, I'll back him, (since I already downloaded everything of his to this day).

I'm glad that prominent artists like Fujisawa, Rumiko, and Takao put their names on that list.

...but I'm asking myself: "where to hell is the original non-censored picture to this post ?" >:[

it doesn't make a difference if they ban lolis anyways, cause the mangaka, they'd do the next closest best thing, and not have blunt loli fanservice, but have roundabout loli goodness without fanservice, then most likely submit to the internet some relatively good blatant loli fanservice, under an anonymous account...

I don't hate CP but if they ban loli
I'll stop to ban CP sites.

Whats there definition of loli?Ranma 1/2 had tons of innocent nude shots that furthered the humor. Wern't they like 15,16 and 17 years old?

Hmm. I wonder if Tezuka-san would signthis petition if he were still alive. I would say yes.

Fight japan, fight with all your might. ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA.

There's a lot of bad, nasty, repulsive, evil stuff out there that I don't want to see, and that is clearly detrimental to society.

BUT, there's no person or group I would trust to decide what is "good" and what is "bad" for me and my fellow citizens to read/see/hear.

So, I'm philosophically stuck with having the bad as well as the good.

3-D land is different, because you've got actual people involved, who can and are being hurt to produce the "bad" stuff.

I have no problem with _minors_ being restricted from the stuff listed in the ban (though I think the wording is too vague).

The question is, "will the ban on this stuff for minors be used as a thin entering wedge to get it banned for everyone?"

Based on the frothings from EN, I believe the answer is to that is, "yes".

Apart from the clear problem of censorship against drawings, which is the most retarded and annoying form of censorship, this could also become a very big problem for the manga industry.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! Finally some backbone and balls!!! Go, Go Nagai!!!

Just goes to show that when the chips are down, people can and will band together to fight for what they believe in.

You know, im ashamed of you people and im only ashamed, because you downvote people who say what they think, even if they ARE for that loli ban.
Your dissapointing me people.
Its not like you could DO anything against that Ban.
The Voting System HERE is a MESS.

I will say Japanese fans needed their gaijin counterparts really fast. If this so-called law passes...

I remember the Library Wars anime...perhaps we need a Hentai Defense Force if this feminist-fundie axis isn't stopped.

of all the people on the list made me laugh that put down

Kaworu Watashiya as one of the people since kodomo no jikan is super lolicon manga of course he doesn't agree xD

They should put loli doujin artists that sell well also on the list maybe that will impress people and believe loli banning is bad!

(I don't support banning of loli :O )

Not just with their awesome works, these people also get my full respect for standing up against these bans. Seeing Fujisawa there (whom iirc only do hawt stuffs involving highschool girls) put me in awe even more.

If only Fujio F. Fujiko's still alive, he'd also be apart of this. I mean he's the first mangaka who presented me nakky loli in a bathtub in almost every volumes of Doraemon..

This law will pass, and I'm afraid it's only gonna be the first step towards a lot of restrictive laws that will try to clean up the whole otaku/hikikomori culture.

These people who listed their names are fools.

We need power-armored stormtroopers and automatic weapons to suppress them. That's how you get people to submit.

FEMINISM:

The radical notion that women are actually people.

I find it very amusing how Japan itself seems to forget that they have some of the lowest sex crime rates, especially child abuse in the world.

Regarding the post above about Tipper Gore: wrong. She did not at any time propose a "ban" on any music. In response to the public displays of viciously anti-social imagery and lyrics in rap--not heavy metal--she lobbied for printed lyrics to be made available to parents, "plain wrapper" covers for CDs with explicit nudity and violence, and the ratings system.

All these things came to pass in one form or another, and the industry--despite its bawlings and wailings to the contrary--survived.

While there is good cause for people to stand up for community standards--as Tipper Gore did--what is going on in Iowa and what is proposed in Japan (a blanket outlawing of images and/or imprisonment for possession of drawings) is preposterous. They're as different as day and night.

How much loli-hentai do you suppose they read in the Boy Scouts? Or the Vatican? They DO have one book in common, though! Anyone wanna propose making possession of THAT book illegal?

I've got to say... Even though I wasn't alive at the time, I 'remember' in the eighties Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore I think was her name got on a moral crusade to ban heavy metal music. As with lolicon, it was of course a largely christian based movement with an extreme right moralist base. Their entire argument was the old "think of the children" tactic which is still often employed to great effect today.

Bands like cannibal corpse were sited for their extremely graphic violent content; and I'm sure we all know just how depraved some hentai can be. Either way, the fact it's essentially impossible to ban any form of artistic expression. A loli-ban would basically be like a cyber version of the war on drugs; paramount to thought crime. It's completely absurd in the free world, including Japan.

In that case, famous musicians including John Denver gathered to speak about the importance of freedoms of speech. When I read this article I got the feeling that it's the same story in Japan. There is a cultural phenomenon there that not everybody likes, so a select few people are trying to just make it go away; you know, for the children. I really hope that creative freedom and artistic integrity win the day once again.

"Of all the tyrannies of humankind, the worst is that which persecutes the mind." ~ John Dryden

Поддерживаю борьбу против запрета на аниме и лоликона.
По мне так это какой то дебилизм считать 2д девочек за реальных детей.
Если они боятся что это влечёт к реальным то крупно ошибаются. Я до сих пор не слышал чтобы в Японии кого то громко изнасиловали , педафилия.
По мне просто политикам нечего делать в мирном времени для Японии и вот крутят херню чтобы было чем заняться и подзаработать возможно.

Well, I'm totally against the ban, but somehow makes me think about this boom in ero-anime.

We've been seing things animated for TV that you would only seen in softcore porn, showing less and less plot and more and more ero to attract viewers.

People have been pushing the bar for a bit, and now the backlash came with this ban proposal.

I dunno but if I want ero I'd rather see a hentai than a late-slot anime right? Let those for shows with mature story-telling.

Of course they are against it. Even "household mangaka" will make an income from or will at least want to have the option of drawing lolicon, since it does sell well. I would protest a cut of one of my income sources, too.
I do not think that this debate is about morals, really.

Always keep in mind the economic interests. It's the strongest force in the world of today.

I really don't give a crap about this ban. Anime characters are ageless. You can make cute, youthful, sweet, moe girls who aren't underage. It's a drawing.

Trust me, I think this is the only thing that is staving off tons of pedophiles. If they ban it, then I suspect they will need a lot more prisons.

----In fact, the only figures conspicuously absent seem to Shonen Jump mangaka…

So 9 pages and nobody notices this line? Sankaku, I am disappoint.

Power to the mangaka!

Hope this encourages other to start standing up against the ban.

Go Nagai is the second most respected manga artist to Osamu Tezuka. Those who had a chance to read his interview in the Middle East will find how more down to earth, very wise, and downright correct is this guy who lay the foundation for hentai manga and violent guro. I'm glad he opposes this and what he said is quite correct - censorship will only make things worse and drive more people to get around it, even through force if necessary. Nothing beats good education and discipline, something the Japanese have done so well over the years, and why loli content goes through without a hitch.

News Update: the proposed ban is now to be put on hold until June.

I think it's a fair guess that by the terms of the proposed bill, about 30% of all manga would be affected. That's a huge hit for the manga publishers, who are already financially strapped. Manga publishing accounts for about 40% of all publishing in Japan. All the major manga publishers are located in Tokyo. Very large amounts of money and tax income to the state are involved in what is, in the end, just political grandstanding.
My guess is that a back-door deal will be cut involving huge bribes (as is usual in Japanese politics) from the publishers to the appropriate officials, and this will all go away. However, a more precisely targeted ban on the graphic loli sex comics could still come out of it as a "compromise."
As for Watashiya, of course she's going to defend herself, but let's face it, if it was one of the Comic LO artists instead...now THAT would be funny.

Jesus. I just read the twitter feed of two mangaka I know in Japan and they both said they were not going to bother to sign the petition because "it has nothing to do with them" (one does pet comics for women and the other does sports comics). They also commented "they won't apply the law anyway."
Yes, there are people that naive in the world. Japanese people tend to be very politically unsophisticated anyway, but I was shocked. I'm not sure what to say to them that won't get them all upset. Maybe "If it doesn't matter, why not sign?"

Fucking shonen jump why are they being traitors and not joining?

"If you say something stinks and then try to put a lid on it by censoring it all you do is increase the number of warped people out there.”

QFT!

Hey, they just called it off... until June. Time to keep fighting the moral police in Japan!

I appose the ban on the grounds of freedom of speech.

If freedom of speech is eroded here where will it stop?

If we don't make a stand now before we know it the civilized world will become something ripped from a George Orwell book.

We must fight the thought police where ever they raise their ugly heads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

The greatest alliance of the century! Freedom go go!

Kaworu Watashiya do has a keen personal interest in this case :D his livelihood literally depends on the law NOT getting passed

Takao Saito = serious business

I was touched seeing the GTO, Love Hina, Detective Conan & Doraemon artist against the ban.

I want to sign for the list of anti-ban.

"Kaworu Watashiya (Kodomo no Jikan)"

Lol, is this future plot development I'm sensing?

Go go go, Go Nagai! I support the mangaka actions in fighting against the ban.

Wow vocal Japanese? I thought they only exist in animu and mangoes.
Seriously though, a ban would greatly restrict artistic freedoms.

Fujiko F Fujio still alive ???

*ALERT* - Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina)

*ALERT* - Kaworu Watashiya (Kodomo no Jikan)

*Laughter to commence - NOW hahahahahahhahaha

Of course these two dont want the Loli ban - they made their livings off of Loli LUving =P

i lol'd when i saw kodomo no jikan on the list

Kaworu Watashiya? Why on Earth would she be against a loli ban?! :D

And yay for Ken Akamatsu, one of my favourite mangaka.

If this ban goes into effect, I don't think the drawing and distribution of erotic works featuring young-looking girls will be impeded to any great extent. It will simply become more underground, which the Internet easily facilitates nowadays.

This is interesting to me. I've always found the Japanese, due to their highly homogeneous culture and pervasive social controls therein, to be the most law-abiding people on Earth. Usually, when new rules are instituted, by schools, families, workplaces, or government, they adhere to them rigidly.

Yet, when it comes to matters of sexual desire and sexuality, Japanese authority always utterly fails at repressing whatever is targeted for elimination. The producers and consumers inevitably find a way around it. This might have something to do with the fact that no one in Japan is consistently getting laid anymore.

Plummeting marriage rates, lonely men, desperate women, a decline in births and consequently, in population: People need an outlet. I don't believe the current ero market in Japan would be what it is today if the Japanese were busy making babies and enjoying healthy amounts of H.

go nagai rocks!!!!!!!!!!!1

Ken Akamatsu ftw XD
with this many people signing it i don't think it should go through but I'm not smart in these things anyway so i don't know if this will make a difference

Doraemon and Touch in the ban list?
Japanese government surely has gone crazy.

The real test would have been to actually try to ban sexually explicit loli. The way this ban was worded, all sexually provocative depictions of characters who appear to be minors, not just children, was banned. Describing it as a ban on 2D child pornography was just an attempt to cloud people's reason.

I fully support this ban