Top Mangaka Blast Loli Ban

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An overpowering array of household name mangaka heads the list of those announcing their opposition to the efforts to ban raunchy manga as “2D child pornography” in Tokyo and, by extension, all of Japan.

Elder mangaka Tetsuya Chiba (Ashita no Joe) decries the law as threatening the very cultural complex which has become so vibrant in Japan:

“When new culture and expression comes about many types of flowers bloom. Pretty blooms like violets and sakura, but also more odious jungle blooms like Rafflesia.

However, these are all interconnected – merely saying ‘this one is dirty’ and cutting it down will only destroy the entire ecology.”

Go Nagai (Mazinger) puts it another way:

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“I came into the world with Harenchi Gakuen. People struck out at it back then, but if there’s a ban this would be impossible to put out now.

If you say something stinks and then try to put a lid on it by censoring it all you do is increase the number of warped people out there.”

More details on the law and its proponents in the previous article on the subject.

Dozens of top industry figures, including many boasting government awards and iconic cultural impact, have put their names to the list opposing any restrictions; a sampling:

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Fujiko Fujio A (Ninja Hattori-kun)

Takao Saitō (Golgo 13)

Gosho Aoyama (Case Closed)

Rumiko Takahashi (Ranma ½)

Mitsuru Adachi (Touch)

Moto Hagio (They Were Eleven)

Machiko Satonaka (Constellation of the Hunter)

Ryōhei Saigan (Kamakura Monogatari)

Tooru Fujisawa (GTO)

Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina)

Kaworu Watashiya (Kodomo no Jikan)

Alongside these are a variety of figures ranging from obscure ero-mangaka to the Seikon no Qwaser production staff. All the major manga publishers have also put their names to the list.

In fact, the only figures conspicuously absent seem to Shonen Jump mangaka…

With many figures in the list being household names, those who were expecting a long list of ero-mangaka and eroge companies have been taken aback.

Of course, what remains to be seen is the reaction of the senile geriatrics and moralist busybodies supporting this measure when they vote on its fate on the 19th.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    03:06 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    Fight japan, fight with all your might. ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA.

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    Comment by Kinny Riddle
    01:12 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    With the likes of heavyweight mangakas like Takahashi Rumiko, Adachi Mitsuru, Gosho Aoyama and Akamatsu Ken signing their names on the list, they've pretty much told stuck-up know-it-all moralists like Equality Now to go fuck themselves.

    Bravo at that.

    (LOL at Yoshino Hiroyuki of the "infamous" Seikon no Qwaser on the list as well. )

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:58 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They are asking to get arrested on "circumstantial" evidence.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:57 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "In fact, the only figures conspicuously absent seem to Shonen Jump mangaka…"

    Considering that they ran To Love Ru until it's end this past august, I find it unusual there would be no representation from that end.

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    Comment by Artefact

    Their publisher is on there too. Somebody suggested it might be an image thing, in which case they really are a bunch of worthless cowards.

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    Comment by tyciol
    19:55 28/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artefact perhaps if a parent company is listed they do not list child company-magazines.

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    Comment by LonerGoth
    02:37 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    being an lover of love hina, and a solid ken akamatsu fanatic, (he got me started on rom-com worship from what I was doing before it, shonen stagnation), I'll vote whatever he votes~

    there are a lot of loli's in ken akamatsu's manga, ai love you had little sister moe loli, love hina had smily-faced koala su loli, shinobu mihara close friend loli, sarah mcdougal foreigner-loli, little sister moe loli from naru's little sister, nyamu exotic loli... Mahou sensei negima has evangeline vampire evil loli, along with an array of middle schooler goodness, doll goodness... stating the whole list of loli goodness within MSN feels like talking for a hundred years... about something wonderful...

    so whatever Ken decides, I'll back him, (since I already downloaded everything of his to this day).

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    Comment by savantique
    02:09 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    *thumbs up @ Watashiya*

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    Comment by Smiling Jack
    00:19 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm glad that prominent artists like Fujisawa, Rumiko, and Takao put their names on that list.

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    Comment by alex251
    00:09 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...but I'm asking myself: "where to hell is the original non-censored picture to this post ?" >:[

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    Comment by LonerGoth
    02:41 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    it doesn't make a difference if they ban lolis anyways, cause the mangaka, they'd do the next closest best thing, and not have blunt loli fanservice, but have roundabout loli goodness without fanservice, then most likely submit to the internet some relatively good blatant loli fanservice, under an anonymous account...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:03 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they're allowed to get away with this, they'll follow Australia's example and start 'regulating' websites as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't hate CP but if they ban loli
    I'll stop to ban CP sites.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whats there definition of loli?Ranma 1/2 had tons of innocent nude shots that furthered the humor. Wern't they like 15,16 and 17 years old?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:58 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hmm. I wonder if Tezuka-san would signthis petition if he were still alive. I would say yes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:19 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's a lot of bad, nasty, repulsive, evil stuff out there that I don't want to see, and that is clearly detrimental to society.

    BUT, there's no person or group I would trust to decide what is "good" and what is "bad" for me and my fellow citizens to read/see/hear.

    So, I'm philosophically stuck with having the bad as well as the good.

    3-D land is different, because you've got actual people involved, who can and are being hurt to produce the "bad" stuff.

    I have no problem with _minors_ being restricted from the stuff listed in the ban (though I think the wording is too vague).

    The question is, "will the ban on this stuff for minors be used as a thin entering wedge to get it banned for everyone?"

    Based on the frothings from EN, I believe the answer is to that is, "yes".

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:19 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Apart from the clear problem of censorship against drawings, which is the most retarded and annoying form of censorship, this could also become a very big problem for the manga industry.

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    Comment by TehBoringOne
    23:05 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! Finally some backbone and balls!!! Go, Go Nagai!!!

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    Comment by Phuong
    20:40 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just goes to show that when the chips are down, people can and will band together to fight for what they believe in.

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    Comment by DieHardjagged
    20:59 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know, im ashamed of you people and im only ashamed, because you downvote people who say what they think, even if they ARE for that loli ban.
    Your dissapointing me people.
    Its not like you could DO anything against that Ban.
    The Voting System HERE is a MESS.

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    Comment by rikarika
    23:26 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Post rating, serious business.
    You'd rather have a flood of one word replies of "gtfo" "die" "agreed" "+1" "wtf" "no u"? If you happen to get -1.0 everybody is going to expand your comment and read it anyways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:21 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I will say Japanese fans needed their gaijin counterparts really fast. If this so-called law passes...

    I remember the Library Wars anime...perhaps we need a Hentai Defense Force if this feminist-fundie axis isn't stopped.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:16 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    of all the people on the list made me laugh that put down

    Kaworu Watashiya as one of the people since kodomo no jikan is super lolicon manga of course he doesn't agree xD

    They should put loli doujin artists that sell well also on the list maybe that will impress people and believe loli banning is bad!

    (I don't support banning of loli :O )

    21:07 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not just with their awesome works, these people also get my full respect for standing up against these bans. Seeing Fujisawa there (whom iirc only do hawt stuffs involving highschool girls) put me in awe even more.

    If only Fujio F. Fujiko's still alive, he'd also be apart of this. I mean he's the first mangaka who presented me nakky loli in a bathtub in almost every volumes of Doraemon..

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:34 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This law will pass, and I'm afraid it's only gonna be the first step towards a lot of restrictive laws that will try to clean up the whole otaku/hikikomori culture.

    Comment by John Hayabusa
    23:20 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Anonymous
    21:34 16/03/2010

    You're such an dork for saying that!

    Loli ban = Epic fail!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:49 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    learn to read. I didn't say I was supporting this. Look closely at "I'm afraid"

    And btw it's "a dork"

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    Comment by tyciol
    19:52 28/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It`s also that a lot of hobbies which are engrossing (as anime is) often lead to people losing interest in other things.

    Comment by John Hayabusa
    19:00 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ok, then you're an asshole!

    And you're still a dork for saying that! Learn to give a good reply ok?

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    Comment by Sylar
    10:58 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You are a dork because you think that hikikomori or NEET must be an otaku or anime fan. There are plenty of those people shut in there rooms ether because they are lazy,afraid of the world,playing MMORPG, collecting shit or whatever. Being a shut-in has nothing to do with anime. It's just that some shut-ins choose anime and manga as there activity.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Er.

    This law, if passed, would instantly ban most anime on the market right now. It would literally kill the industry.

    It'll probably pass anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:18 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    These people who listed their names are fools.

    We need power-armored stormtroopers and automatic weapons to suppress them. That's how you get people to submit.

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    Comment by Phuong
    21:27 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, because horrible aim is the best way to get people to submit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:33 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stormtroopers were supposed to be elite. It's the Force that's killing their aim I tell you :p

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:33 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    FEMINISM:

    The radical notion that women are actually people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:41 28/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I find it very amusing how Japan itself seems to forget that they have some of the lowest sex crime rates, especially child abuse in the world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:05 21/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do they?
    First of all, the legal age for sex is 13, so a lot of what constitutes as child abuse in other countries does not apply.

    And second, we do not know how many children are abused, we can only know the number of pressed charges. Is it easy, is it encouraged or discouraged to press charges in Japan? How openly can you speak about rape?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:41 26/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Regarding the post above about Tipper Gore: wrong. She did not at any time propose a "ban" on any music. In response to the public displays of viciously anti-social imagery and lyrics in rap--not heavy metal--she lobbied for printed lyrics to be made available to parents, "plain wrapper" covers for CDs with explicit nudity and violence, and the ratings system.

    All these things came to pass in one form or another, and the industry--despite its bawlings and wailings to the contrary--survived.

    While there is good cause for people to stand up for community standards--as Tipper Gore did--what is going on in Iowa and what is proposed in Japan (a blanket outlawing of images and/or imprisonment for possession of drawings) is preposterous. They're as different as day and night.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:34 26/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    How much loli-hentai do you suppose they read in the Boy Scouts? Or the Vatican? They DO have one book in common, though! Anyone wanna propose making possession of THAT book illegal?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:02 09/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    we should provide clergymen and scoutmasters with free shota

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    Comment by Idreamofpocky
    16:14 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've got to say... Even though I wasn't alive at the time, I 'remember' in the eighties Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore I think was her name got on a moral crusade to ban heavy metal music. As with lolicon, it was of course a largely christian based movement with an extreme right moralist base. Their entire argument was the old "think of the children" tactic which is still often employed to great effect today.

    Bands like cannibal corpse were sited for their extremely graphic violent content; and I'm sure we all know just how depraved some hentai can be. Either way, the fact it's essentially impossible to ban any form of artistic expression. A loli-ban would basically be like a cyber version of the war on drugs; paramount to thought crime. It's completely absurd in the free world, including Japan.

    In that case, famous musicians including John Denver gathered to speak about the importance of freedoms of speech. When I read this article I got the feeling that it's the same story in Japan. There is a cultural phenomenon there that not everybody likes, so a select few people are trying to just make it go away; you know, for the children. I really hope that creative freedom and artistic integrity win the day once again.

    "Of all the tyrannies of humankind, the worst is that which persecutes the mind." ~ John Dryden

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:09 21/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    A free world?

    A free world is for you mainly a world where you can watch and read pornography with idealized, sexualized children?
    You are a free consumer?

    What the heck. If it's a free world, I'm sure in Japan no one feels the need and pressure to get educated, to get money and you, as a part of a free world, are free to do whatever you please and have all the responsibility for your life in your hands. You aren't talked bullshit to through advertising and politicians speech in a free world, no clouding and brainwashing in a free world.
    Sorry pal, but I think you should think about what constitutes freedom...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:37 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Поддерживаю борьбу против запрета на аниме и лоликона.
    По мне так это какой то дебилизм считать 2д девочек за реальных детей.
    Если они боятся что это влечёт к реальным то крупно ошибаются. Я до сих пор не слышал чтобы в Японии кого то громко изнасиловали , педафилия.
    По мне просто политикам нечего делать в мирном времени для Японии и вот крутят херню чтобы было чем заняться и подзаработать возможно.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:07 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, I'm totally against the ban, but somehow makes me think about this boom in ero-anime.

    We've been seing things animated for TV that you would only seen in softcore porn, showing less and less plot and more and more ero to attract viewers.

    People have been pushing the bar for a bit, and now the backlash came with this ban proposal.

    I dunno but if I want ero I'd rather see a hentai than a late-slot anime right? Let those for shows with mature story-telling.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:24 28/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have been reading this kind of topics and i thinks that the only way we have to fix their brains is to appeal to count for insulting us by calling us rapists and staff. They wont care for words but if we strike their money they may just get it.
    No point in speaking with fanatics.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:57 21/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of course they are against it. Even "household mangaka" will make an income from or will at least want to have the option of drawing lolicon, since it does sell well. I would protest a cut of one of my income sources, too.
    I do not think that this debate is about morals, really.

    Always keep in mind the economic interests. It's the strongest force in the world of today.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:32 13/01/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really don't give a crap about this ban. Anime characters are ageless. You can make cute, youthful, sweet, moe girls who aren't underage. It's a drawing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:23 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Trust me, I think this is the only thing that is staving off tons of pedophiles. If they ban it, then I suspect they will need a lot more prisons.

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    Comment by Sylar
    11:05 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    No it's not. A real pedophile will never be satisfied with out getting in to the real thing.
    Loli manga are nothing but cute entertainment. There has never been establish any relationship. Actually almost none of the people who raped children in Japanese prisons was a loli manga fanatic. They are more in to the real thing.
    This is nothing more than crazy fanatic scare talk by insane thought-police with people that want to pass there own agendas behind it.

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    Comment by yaku
    12:40 18/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pedophiles = <3 3D

    lolicons = 3D PIG DISGUSTING

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    Comment by echelon64
    11:09 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ----In fact, the only figures conspicuously absent seem to Shonen Jump mangaka…

    So 9 pages and nobody notices this line? Sankaku, I am disappoint.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:50 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Shueisha is brutally repressive to their artists. If they say STFU, the artists had better listen. Even the big names have to feel a little fear. Remember, it wasn't that long ago Shueisha would automatically fire anyone who did any work for another company. The first guy to break that rule was Tatsuya Egawa, who had enough arrogance to dare them to fire him while his comic Tokyo Daigaku Monogatari was the #1 bestseller for Shueisha. He blatantly went to his old publisher, Kodansha, and started running a series there, simultaneously. They let him get away with it and the wall was broken, but only for the elite of the elite. I know others have now done it, but only a few.
    So, all that said, if the Shonen Jump editorial department decided that their artists were going to STFU on this issue, they would. And it seems like they did.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:22 17/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    People noticed and even Artefact replied... Your lack of attention is disappointing to a certain degree.







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