“Anime Has Reached a Dead End” = “K-ON!”
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Mar 16, 2010 08:42 JST
- Tags: K-ON!, Mass Media, Moe, Rankings, Statistics, TV
“TV anime’s current system is stuck at a dead end” – so says this topical TV programme, but why are they holding up a picture of two K-ON! moeblobs?
The programme also presents some dubious statistics:
How many shows do you watch each week?
0 – 10%
1 – 30%
2 – 10%
3 – 11%
4 – 4%
5+ – 35%
What do you look forward to most in your anime?
1. Emotion – 42%
2. Adventure & action – 17%
3. Other – 17%
4. Comedy – 13%
5. Moe – 6%
6. Suspense/thrill – 5%
However, many suspect a bit of mass media media fabrication may be at play – no “ero” is present in the results, and most would expect the results for “emotion” and “moe” to be reversed.
That the industry built up around vapid moe has collapsed from oversupply and lack of quality is of course by now old news, not that this makes things any less painful for K-ON! fans.
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As much as I enjoyed K-ON, I don't get why people keep on over hyping it. It's a nice slice of life but it's really not a peak of anything.
With that said, I certainly hope we're not suck here.
My first ero anime is ... sorry, too much ero anime that i forgot how it all started. However, every time I watch an ero anime i go like =_= and sometime -_-'
I find it addictive but not interesting.
Emotion anime....lol, I remembered how I used to watch Korean drama like Cruel Temptation. My mom bought the DVD with 100+ episode and I watched it without stopping. Same goes to emo anime like Clannad & AIR & Kanon. People nowadays are getting very emotional.
Lol I dont like it either but I find myself addicted to To-Love-Ru...
I'm sick of the unoriginal ones that read like a checklist of tired fetishes. It's like "Maid...check. Childhood friend...check. Nekomimi...check. Tsundere...check. Burikko...check. Miko...check." etc, like the product is more about having at least one of each than actually having been written for a decent plot.
If all 6 of those are evenly distributed in an anime, thats good enough
The effects of economy at work, in this case a moe economy. If there is an over-supply, demand will fall until supply falls with it.
As long they don't stop making anime like Baccano or Durara! I don't care how many moe anime they release <_<
This is old news.
The quality of anime has been on the decline for years, it just recently people are fed up with this moe crap.
Quality is a subjective thing. I find most contemporary art to be absolute crap, but other people find it ingenious and beautiful. You can't argue with taste.
K-On! is a comedy with slice of life elements. After a hard day's work, I'd gladly sit down to watching 5 girls sip tea and eat cakes all day while playing a bit of music in between. The last thing on my mind then would a show with lots of high tension and where people blow each other's brains out or where I need to think for hours to finally understand a bit of what's going on. I can watch those when I'm in the mood for that.
If you want more serious anime, go watch those then, still plenty to go around. The moe fad will subside eventually and make way for something else to complain about, it's been that way since the whole anime business started.
Taste is subjective, opinion is subjective. Quality is objective - may you like it or not.
K-On! gets bashed so much for no good reason. If they're gonna judge animes decline, why don't you mention the 15 other shows that weren't even worth watching or talking about. But nope, it's always K-On!'s fault isn't it. They just do it to stir up more controversy.
K-On! wasn't even worth watching. It was only watchable to otakus who desired to see moe blobs, which apparently is a great deal of otakus.
Because it's the major example and the symbol of what happening to the industry, K-on! (and hikkikomori bastards)gets bashed for spearheading the moe-boom.
Because it's always easier to simply bash something old than actually come up with something intelligent.
kakifly must be really proud - he's brought down an entire industry :lol
The more moe, fanservice and ecchi material an anime has, the more superficial and less memorable it is.
We need our share of deep, meaningful anime with people crying manly tears over the anguish of existance.
“Anime Has Reached a Dead End” = “K-ON!”
...so true, so damn true... :)
if K-ON has to be among the best animes then it's the end, the end people :)
yeah
how about you quit watching anime, so I can continue enjoying my stuff without getting to see your pointless comments
I have quit, Anon, I have quit watching bad animes :)
“TV anime’s current system is stuck at a dead end – but why are they holding up a picture of two K-ON! moeblobs?"
- just think about that for a second :)
"but why are they holding up a picture of two K-ON! moeblobs?"
cause they're just showing a random anime magazine which happens to have K-On on its cover, dumbass
just think about that for a year and come back
People all have a right to their opinion whether they agree with you or not. Indifference with your opinion should not result in said comment to be pointless.
The Moe is not the problem, is the stupid freacks japan otakus.
Why should the 'emotion' and 'moe' percentage be reversed? Note also the percentage that watches 5 shows or more a week versus those at 1 show.
What this says is the actual numbers of people who watch 'moe' are low, they're just FANATICS who make up a far disproportionate volume/voice/market.
I might remind you that when magazines like Newtype do ratings of anime with the general public in Japan (NOT otaku!) the top titles are always still classics like Doraemon, Lupin or Gundam from 20 years ago. In the past ~10 years only Evangelion even registers on radar with the real Japanese public.
Wow. What an accurate post.
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anime is dead to me
its all moe and schoolgirls and no substance,
fuck it with a stick
What exactly is the point here? Moe being at the bottom doesn't mean they don't care about "moe". It just means it's not the top choice of the people polled (and note that it's very important who and how many exactly were polled). This isn't anywhere near as telling as if you had people rank the things on that list.
Emotion is incredibly vague and so is "moe". I don't know whether that's just the translation but it could mean absolutely anything in English. In fact, from what I understand moe and emotion could easily mean the same thing.
What does K-ON have to do with this? K-ON encompasses "emotion", "moe", and "comedy". I liked it for it's "comedy and I honestly have no idea what people mean when they say "moe". I don't think anyone knows what it means.
"Moe" here generally means "Show with a mostly cute female cast that I don't like".
Oh well Moe and K-on fans together going ape shit on the news!
Are you guys forget that K-on best episode is the last episode? And that episode made me all emotional...
I found K-on entertaining as a watch-just-once anime. You guys painting it out as the embodiment of everything wrong in anime are exaggerating [Although I admit it adds to the problem], and are yourselves victims of Artefact's own "fabrication of perception".
Though I shouldn't really say victims, for if you let Artefact's opinion become your own without trying to form your own impression of it, then you're just another cog in the machinery rather than the product.
but if the people say that K-ON is shit, that's the proof that they really watched at least one episode :(
I wouldn't say it's 'proof' if they are doing what I think most are [not forming their own impression and instead adopting other's opinion as their own], but it's certainly a likely possibility. I acknowledge they could have genuinely disliked the series, but repeating the chant that "it's shit" is hardly an indication of insight into a known topic [K-on in this case]
Also, in the same way a single chapter is not an accurate representation of a complete book, or a survey of 1000 people is not a representation of the opinion of 110 million people, a single episode does not accurately represent the whole series.
Be that as it may, I do not think K-on is anything more than a regular anime. Maybe 'good' if you take into account its target audience, but for me it's regular.
How about I just say I got bored of it? Nothing interesting really happening, a pantsu flash there, a perverted moment here, etc. It keeps going for 13 eps or so.
They need to put more stuff out thats interesting and new, like Death Note for example.
Why are they holding K-ON up? Because it's a mess of boring cliches.
Main stream Anime production targeted at the sexual fetishes and emotional insecurities of Japanese otaku is a recipe for disaster in the long term for anime quality and acceptance as more than a medium for otaku pervs.
K-On! and the other moe shit are the cancer thats killing the anime.
"感動" in this case I think rather then "emotion" its being "moved" emotionally.
hrmmm... isn't this news implying that K-ON! simply has a lot of emotions within?
I don't think K-ON has a lot of anything within it.
no, i don't mean you. i mean this news.
eh? i can't see why this is painful for K-ON! fans... season 2 isn't going to be canceled, is it?
Ero and emotions are interchangeable.
If you feel despair, you cry tears of sadness. If you feel happy, you cry tears of joy. If you're aroused, you cry white tears from another...... source.
This whole thing has me going "huh?"
I grant this as much credibility as a random middle-of-nowhere local newspaper's surveyed opinions on what the main dangers of nuclear reactors are. NONE!
I think these are just some old farts who see their memories all pink shaded. People always think stuff used to be better - but that's bullshit.
It used to be hard to find anime with a good story that you'd actually like. Now you have to be selective or you won't have time for anything else left.
What do I look forward to most in my anime?
Enjoyment, of course. What else? You may put any of those 6 stuffs up there but if the show turns out to be nothing enjoyable and all those six elements aren't executed nicely, it won't mean anything.
It's just skeptics talking about how K-On!'s second season could fall flat on its face since the "moe bubble has burst" and all K-On! is a "gigantic moe-blob anime."
Yeah well screw the skeptics. Moe will still be moe, despite any bubble bursting. I'm proud enough to say that I am K-On! fan.
Good for you.
If they meant "emotion" as in fappable material, then yes, I'm with the 42%!!
im glad moe scored so bad, its time for it to go away. or at least become niche like echhi used to be. we need more
code geass
soul eater
darker than black
bleach
one piece
monster
ghost in the shell
black lagoon
berserk
anime like this will bring the market back up.
cool
I'm not watching any of these
I know a few others who read Sankaku who read this and went lolwtf? Simply put. . . no. Some of those are nice, but quite honestly, if they tried to remake Code Geass or expand on it, it'd probably become crap.
Bleach and One Piece, seeing those two makes me wonder if you even watch any good anime (IMO some of the worst animes on the planet)
I doubt you even understand how the market works. Moe currently does its job because the otaku market that actually PAYS for their anime DVD boxes love it. And that's who most Studios/Artists/Directors etc want to appeal to. The people who'll buy their DVD box sets and merchandise.
you sound like a bandwagon kid based on the animes you listed. watch a few not so great animes while watching a few cool ones that became very popular.
=( that bleach and one piece really killed any chance of me respecting your opinion.
I know whats wrong with Bleach, but One Piece? :O
My, how boring it would be if all anime were fighting shonen, so I do not concur with your list, specially not on Code Geass. Ghost in the Shell now I agree with that, we don't have enough of those type of anime nowadays.
P.S. Yes I know not all in your list are fighting shonen anime, but most them are.
Some also serve as a comedy series. Anyway shounen can include anything, like mysteries, drama, etc. They give a moral lesson, unlike moeblobs. Basically hes saying the world needs more stuff like that.
Also the shoujo genre needs to step up its game and give us something good. Stuff that also give a moral lesson. But please dont let it be like Twighlight ;_;
Im still waiting for that new Berserk Anime, i still dont know if its true, so..
But we need more of that.
I'd rather Berserk be made into a long running OAD series. If they make another tv anime then each episode would be censored like crazy.
In the Case of Berserk I agree completely. A long running OVA/OAD or whatever you call it, would be outstanding. The mangs itself is releasing slowly, so most of us are used to long waits.
Same here, but I have my doubts if Berserk would be able to pull a Legend of the Gallatic Heroes.
"we need more...bleach"
You best be trolling.
He'd best be
LOL at needing more Bleach, One Piece, and Soul Eater
K-On didnt pain me in any way before and the second season wont either; it'll just be some good slice-of-life comedy moe like its SUPPOSED to be.
Why no "ero"?
I think the industry would do a little better if they could get [Adult Swim] to take anime a little more seriously. I'm sick of being stuck with endless Bleach reruns. More variety would be nice.
What does adult swim have to do with anime on Japanese tv? Besides, the guys at adult swim hate anime (except for FLCL) so there's probably no chance that they'll ever take it seriously.
Who watches Adult Swim? -_-
Uh, lots of people. I can't deny that my hate for Family Guy and other MacFarlane shit is near endless, but they run other good (Western) series like the Boondocks, Metalocalypse, Home Movies, not to mention some quality anime series. Hell, even Aqua Teen can be funny once in a while.
Just because they are run constant Family Guy and Bleach reruns nowadays doesn't mean that they were shit in the near past, nor that they will continue to be shit within the next couple of months.
Adult Swim is SHIT
Actually, I doubt that. They do run a good series every now and again. Like Neon genisis, FLCL, and Full Metal Alchemist.
It's just that the endless amounts of family guy and Bleach (as stated above) are what make Adult Swim's reputation get shot to hell. Now, if they simply ran more good anime like NGE, then they'd actually get somewhere and maybe even make anime a bit more popular in the Western world.
Then again, the chances of that actually happening are slim to just about none.
Can't wait for K-ON!!
second. (tuba or no tuba)
If they only didn't make like...10 random/moeblob/nostory/willwatchonceandthenforgetthatitegzists anime they could have easily made another season of berserk or at least a good OVA.
Don't all anime have emotion or am I misunderstanding what they mean?
I think we all have a liking for one emotion or another. And even comedy based anime feature SOME kind of emotion, I'm stuck wondering what kind of pole they ran here..
i think what they mean is "ero-tion"... or maybe it's just me.
yaranaika!
I don't get this article, anime already reached a dead end. Maybe its the new cool to play Cpt. Obvious.
mass media is always the last one to know
last day I saw an article in a newspaper about how facebook was emergent way of communication
Honestly, I'm already getting tired of how most new animés being released are more on ecchi and moe. Not that I hate moe (I am actually a fan of K-ON!) but with too many of them per season, it actually feels kind of ankward.
Yea, I get that. Can't imagine all the new ones coming out like Haruhi 2009 art, but K-ON! is an exception =)
emotion probably means romance/drama/intensely shoujo-like. Though not many emotional ones are exclusively shoujo-like.
I say that, when the characters are very recycled and act in very predictable, yet unrealistic ways(mainly the girls, made in a way to appeal to guys, it seems) is an example of not enough "emotion". And then again there are pretty repetitive male characters too....
And also, personally I don't think being a romance would have much to do with the emotion factor, I mean in currently airing shows like Fullmetal Alchemist or Sora no Woto, the characters go really deep, while some romances like Myself;Yourself or To Heart seem kind of generic and unrealistic, IMHO.
17% other.
Other = Giant robots, pew pew.
Let the good animes roll.
i thought other meant loli =/
I don't think you are. There's lots of emotion in anime by nature, especially when they deal w/ teens. As for what the study means by emotion, idk.
Also, if the dead end is K-ON!, looks like the car has pulled a U-turn.
They're probably considering anime that are more introspective or something. Few stories lack introspection in a general sense, but there definitely are degrees of introspection as there are degrees of comedy, action, suspense, moe, etc. As an example, I consider NGE to be an introspective anime since that is its salient feature, even though it has moments of comedy, action and penguin moe. I think they're going with anime with a greater degree of whatever-they're-looking-for-that-they-refer-to-as-emotion.
Strange statistics. I excepted other results too. Also, this is the best topic title ever, I fully agree with it, even if in the article doesn't marks explicitly the K-ON! as the dead end of anime.
I disagree with you there Artefact, I think people let on more for liking moe than anyone really does. I think even otaku consider moe as more of a bonus these days, and almost anyone you can talk to about anime normally always likes emotionally moving animes a ton more than anything else whether male or female, KGNE being a masterful example.
Emotion probably means "drama".
It says 感動, which is better said as 'being moved emotionally'. None of the other translations really fit.
The difference is that it is you the watcher that is being affected, essentially your feelings (感) are being moved (動). In the same way 萌え is actually a feeling _you_ as the watcher has in reaction to a moe inducing element.
I'm moved by moe
I think mine just moved thanks to some moe.
You stole my line bastard
Yes, Dragonball Z is a tearjerker.
Manly tears
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Do you think sadness is the only emotion?
thinking about ***ing while see sankaku ero picture is also an emotion
I suppose disgust is also an emotion.
No.
I'm amazed you took it seriously.
Just kidding. I'm not.
Sadness isn't the only emotion?
It's all I've ever felt :*(
Make you bawl like a little girl everytime a character dies, even though you know they won't stay dead.....
That's what you call good character development. Or something.
Well, there are emotions like moe emotion or shoujo'ish emotion, or GAR emotion. I prefer the GAR emotion though.
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WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!!!
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