Videogames “More Satanic Than Ever”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Feb 27, 2010 04:00 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Censorship, Christianity, Mass Media, Philadelphia, Religion, RPG, USA
Even the most hard-core gamers are sounding the alarm about the rise in the number of satanically-themed video games that target God and Christianity, invite players to make pacts with the devil, and elevate Satan to hero status.
“This has been going on for the last 10 years, but especially in the most recent games,” said Lance Christian, 32, of Alton, Illinois who has been an avid gamer for most of his life.
For instance, in one game, players kill the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael before going on to destroy God. Another game requires players to sell their soul to the devil and rewards them for “killing unbaptized infants.”
All of these games seem to have one central theme – God is the enemy and the devil is the hero. And they do nothing to hide it. One game guide glibly states: “The Judeo-Christian God is portrayed as the prominent villain in the series . . . “
“This is just the tip of the iceberg in what I have discovered,” Mr. Christian said. “I feel that the devil has a new tool to work with in this age of technology, and the majority of adults in a position of responsibility are left in the dark.”
His list of the most egregious games includes:
• Tecmo’s Deception: Invitation To Darkness (Playstation) – Players “make an unholy pact and sell their soul to Satan in exchange for power” with the object of the game being to ensure the resurrection of Satan and obtain his power. (This game is rated “T” for teens.)
• Nocturne (Playstation 2): A game in which the hero (a demon) destroys the three Archangels St. Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, then goes on to destroy God.
• Shadow Hearts (Playstation 2): The hero uses his power to intercept and destroy God and “save the world.” (Some games in this series are rated “T”.)
• Dragon’s Age Origins (Playstation 3/Xbox 360): The game revolves around the story of God going mad and cursing the world. A witch attacks believers and players can “have sex” with her in a pagan act called “blood magic” so she can “give birth to a god.” Another scenario allows players to have sex with a demon in exchange for a boy’s soul.
Other games with satanic themes are Dante’s Inferno, Guitar Hero, Devil Summoner, Koudelka, Trapt, Bayonetta, and Darksiders.
Game publishers are cashing in on the satanic, anti-Catholic and the general anti-religion content themes and using them as a draw for buyers. For instance, Electronic Arts launched a catchy ad campaign to sell its new hell-inspired game, Dante’s Inferno.
Buyers interested in the game were greeted at the site by a phony new game called, “Mass: We Pray.” When they clicked on the link, they were declared a heretic and re-routed to Dante’s Inferno. After ordering, fans were offered a “Number of the Beast” discount of $6.66. The same game was advertised during the Super Bowl with the teaser, “Hell awaits.”
Game publishers such as Electronic Arts and Midway Games have not responded to The Bulletin’s requests for comment.
Even though most of these videos are rated by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) as “M” for mature audiences, many are rated “T” for teens. But regardless of the ratings, they can easily fall into the hands of children from older siblings or parents, Mr. Christian says, and points to a recent YouTube video of an eight year-old playing a popular adult Satanic-themed game.
Paul Bury, editor of Family Friendly Gaming said the envelope is definitely being pushed with these games. “Role playing games (RPGs) have progressively gotten worse over the years,” he said. “It is difficult to find a role playing game that is not ‘T’. . . . There have been some ‘M’ rated ones where all kinds of decadence is allowed.”
Via The Bulletin, “Philadephia’s Family Newspaper.”
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From a completely inbiased outside perspective looking in I find it ironic that everyone on this site is proving the statement (however surreal it may be) that technology could be a new medium for faithlessness and evil to spread. Every single response on here is just a reverse rant in roundabout ways saying "Fuck Christians. Hahaha!" simply because discussion about it is brought forward. You all have just collectively proven that this is a pit of faithless, secular, religion bashing assholes.
Even a non religious person could see yall are just feeding off of the mention of religion to bash it... and everyone knows people who bash religion are just butthurt because they were either denied something in their youth thanks to religion or they believe something their 9th grade teacher told them is more enlightening and brilliant than a 2000+ year old tradition. In the end, whether you believe or not. The fact still remains that IF the internet could be a medium for evil, satan, or w/e, yall would obviously be supporting. Religios or not, advocating dark evil ideals violates societal norms worldwide.
Oh... maybe the internet is where you belong then. Out of society's way with your deviant childish mentality. Never thought of that. Hmmm. Ok carry on.
I find it ironic that you misspelled the word unbiased.
Not only did he misspell the word unbiased.
He spelled it as INbiased. In other words, he's biased..
i find it ironic that the only thing any of yall could argue about his point was a misspell. Life failures. +1 for anon. Well said
I don't think you could make it more obvious that you were religious. Thereby biased.
I find that most disturbing...
There are a few games where god is good....
wow this is so stupid. people are complaining about what they actually want to happen. example dante's inferno: your a holy guy whose literally there to KILL satan! and yet ppl complain its against religion when the main point is to defeat evil. everybody would shit bricks and really complain if they made a game where you have to kill god himself. which i really hope they do. evil sells which is why "satantic" games sell. fuck god and fuck good
I laughed at the inclusion of "Dante's Inferno" in this list of "Satanic" games.
It has Satan in it, so it's obviously a game that shows kids what a cool dood he is.
Gods a useless lazy bum imo
How is Dante's Inferno satanic - the hero is out to slay Hell's minions and puts cock-waggling-Satan back in his prison all for the sake of the woman he loves!
As I remember there's that legendary games that let's you bash demons to pulp:
- Castlevania
- Devil May Cry
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!! HOW DARE THIS MR. CHRISTIAN NOT INCLUDE DISGAEA'S ANGEL KILLIN' DEMONS?!!
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
STUPID RELIGIOUS FAILS
wow what games are these?
So basically, this person is worried that children may be allowed to see material which conflicts with their own religious viewpoints.
If children shouldn't be allowed to see Satanic stuff, who's to say they should be allowed to see Christian stuff?
This person is a fascist who wouldn't allow religious diversity to exist. Which by the way, includes agnostics, atheists, and blasphemers. Why next they'll be trying to take my children away from me if I try to raise them Pagan. If I ever have any, that is.
If I have kids, they can see any religious material they want. I'm not going to choose how to raise my kids based upon some lunatic who thinks one religious viewpoint is the only tolerable thing. I can instill my own values, thank you very much. I think I like the sound of these games better than a book that justifies rape, genocide, homophobia, zionism, and many other horrid evils of this world.
And I can't believe s/he called Dante's Inferno "Satanic". Does this person have no understanding of the history of Christianity?
But isn't the whole point of the Christian God that He is too vast and all-encompassing for our minds to comprehend? I mean, people can all call Him a dick or asshole or whatever, but wouldn't that just be like calling your parents assholes for punishing you for doing something wrong, or stopping you from doing something that could be dangerous or detrimental to your well-being? Humans are finite beings, who only live a hundred years if we're extremely lucky. God's been around forever and will be around forever. So who are we to assume what He's thinking in the long run?
I'm a Christian, sure, but I'm not one of those people who bash everything that is slightly out of line with my beliefs. I play almost any video game out there, as long as it's good. Dragon Age is one of my favorite games. The two things that annoy me are "religions" people who go on ignorantly bashing everything related to popular culture, and people who bash everything about religion without a decent argument to back it up. Saying "DURHUR GOD SUCKS GO BACK TO YOUR DELUSIONS" does not equate to a sound, logical argument.
There are fanatics for everything. The lulz part is when one fanatic blames the other and vice versa. You can't argue with any fanatic even if you could. To me, the "DURHUR GOD SUCKS/DELULION LULZ" is basically the same as "GAMES ARE EBIL/BURN SATAN WORSHIPPING GAMERS"... Then again, who am I to argue.
As to why Guitar Hero features, Batman said it best:
"Punk is nothing but death...and crime...and the rage of a beast."
http://atopfourthwall.blogspot.com/2009/08/batman-fortunate-son.html
Just curious - I'm not attacking anybody's beliefs or anything - but to the atheists here, what makes you so sure that you're right? That's not to mean that I think I'm right, either. I just think it's good to view these things, regardless of side, with a little bit of skepticism rather than going whole-hog either way.
I also just think it's incredibly arrogant to simply declare you're right when the subject in question is not so easily proven one way or the other.
On-topic, though, I do kind of wish that game producers would do a little more to get their creative juices flowing instead of just going with whatever the current trend is.
no no, it's very easy to prove religion is a literary creation by man... It's just that religious people are too stupid to realize it.
No, you've confused proving something with convincing yourself that something you're afraid of is fiction.
The official term for this is denial.
Anyone who doesn't fail at logic knows you're dealing with non-testable theory in all directions.
Black people are offspring of the devil.
Holy shit there is so much misinformation in this article that I don't even know where to begin.
Shadow Hearts: Technically the final boss is called God, but it's actually an alien. They explain this IN GAME by saying that its power is so great that it is as much a god to us, as we are to ants (ie: deity-level power. Not actual deity).
Dragon Age: Nice way to mix unrelated events and correlate them to a single thing. The only thing I remember out of this is sex with Morrigan. With the whole "boy's soul" thing, all I remember is playing as Morrigan and killing said demon to get the boy's soul back...
Guitar Hero: You fight the devil, not worship him.
Dante's Inferno: This game is the most Pro-God game I've seen in a long time. God is constantly praised, and the game ends with you fighting the devil, trapping him in hell (again) and ascending to Purgatory to work your way to Heaven.
Bayonetta: This game uses it's own system of Heaven and Hell. I don't think there's any actual mention of "God" or "Satan". The final boss is named Jubileus, the "god" of their world.
Darksiders: You play as one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, trying to return balance to the world after Hell wipes out humanity. The only reason you fight and kill angels is because they blame you for the apocalypse and try to kill you.
When did it become socially acceptable to talk out of your ass in this way? It's unbelievable that these people are given a place in which to spout their nonsense.
Fucking Jeebuzfreaks!!!
Sigh, what a fruitcake
That was, quite possible, the worst description of Dragon Age Origin's i've ever seen.
The Maker didn't go mad, he got mad at some mages who tried to defy him and enter his realm. Blood magic is described as a very, VERY bad thing, and the 'good' path has you tread a path of rightiousness in the makers eyes. The Evil path, however, is evil, but that's the whole point.
Oh come da fuck on!
Frickin' fundi-pricks
At least they didn't signal out Bayonetta
Bayonetta is mentionned to kiddo.
Thank God Disgaea isn't mentioned up there... And how the heck could they target SMT and Shadow Hearts when basically those games have "recruitable" angels...? Plus, wasn't the so-called God in SH1 nothing but just a guy with spiritual power aiming to be a ruler or something...
Some may think ill of me, but I'm not going to lie. After reading the following: “killing unbaptized infants.” I chuckled.
dude GH is awesome.
srsly tho its a good sign. ever heard of the game where they kill Licgnool the god of humus?
no? because no one fucking knows about that guy. it just goes to show #1 is still the Christian faith. all is well in the world.
when we get games where you get to destroy evil by being nice and going to mass, we are truly fucked.
although the games where you fight gods is boring. now if you were god, (no not kratos) then tht would be awesome. something like gta4 except your power is creation.
Try Populous or Black and White then or other such God-games.
I stopped taking this seriously after reading Guitar Hero as one of their examples.
Guitar Hero? really? was there a hidden 'kill God, ascend to demonhood' mode in that game? If so, I didnt find it.
They can just fuck off. Ignorance in general sickens me, willing ignorance makes me want to go on a killing spree.
Hey, has anyone here ever met the 'devil' or 'god'? No? Then realize that we could have the two things totally backwards, with 'god' being evil and 'the devil' being good.... or the truth is shades of grey, with neither one being totally 'good' or 'evil'.
It's time to realize that religion is a JOKE to anyone with a brain today, and it's time for religion to go 'bye-bye'.
Recent my ass, a lot of those games are early last gen and from 2 gens ago. And I could instantly tell he was talking about the SMT series. And Guitar Hero? Really? You're bound to have a "satanic" rock or metal song in there. Point being, he's using an outdated list. If he wanted to actually complain, he should have pointed out the the recent burst of army games. But then again he's a Christian, so he's ALL ABOUT KILLING IN THE NAME OF GOD, I'm sure.
I love that they thing this is part of a conspiracy against them, when most of these games come from Japan. Japan is one of the few non-Muslim countries that doesn't give a fuck about Christianity.
No one is taking all of these satanic games seriously other than the religious zealots complaining. Satanism is just as bad as any other cult/worship religion.
Not really..... Satanism is about doing whatever you want as long as you are not PHYSICALLY harming someone else without their permission.
Meaning that there is nothing 'venial' or 'sinful' unless you are doing the former.
I've met some Satanists back when I was in high school, and that was their guiding rule: do whatever ye wish, as long as ye are not harming someone else physically.
Might be a sect issue then, seeing how other streams of Satanism are more in line with Social Darwinism.
Do whatever you want, as long as you're strong enough to do it, and who cares about those weaker than yourself.
The whole: "dost as thou wants, long as it harms none" is the Golden Rule from Wicca, which is completely unrelated to Satanism.
im suprised that his guy knows about trapt... i liked it
If outer space aliens came to earth to invade, would we (Fill in the Blank) at each other or (Fill in the Blank) at each other.
Media bashing on violence in "religious" video games, and not once even touching on violent movies with religious motifs, like Legion.
Yep... typical media lambasting on a niche minority.
And considering how much REAL violence has and is done in the name of religion, these complaints are mostly the typical attempt to keep people from seeing what a farce religions are.
Countless wars have been waged in many dfifferent god's names, hatred and bigotry go on every day in the name of religion.
Yeah, let's attack games instead of trying to solve problems in the REAL world.
I find this ridiculous, unbelievable, and unacceptable...
How dare that bastard neglect to mention Xenogears, one of Squaresoft's greatest RPGs. Not only is the final boss named Deus and you have to either fight the angels around him or fight an extremely tough final battle, but Fei, our MC, is the prophecied "slayer of God". Also quite a bit of the game's story uses Christian elements, Xenogears has earned that spot of controversy. How dare you ignore it!
This is ridiculous...I see nothing to worry about. Also...Parents don't have to let kids play these games anyways.
I, however, would sell my soul for powers. better yet, I'd sell others souls for powers. and i would most likely go after chistians or muslims 'caus based on my own judgement they fuck up the most.
How about Xenosaga? UDO(GOD) vs. Wilhelm(Devil). anyone?
UDO is the one who is destructive here while Wilhelm always saves the universe from UDO
You forgot to mention that Chaos (follower of Jesus) and Kos-Mos (Mary Magdalene) were there to save the universe~!!
anyway I dont believe in this mythical beings GOD and SATAN. There is only nature and the mind. anyway i find xenosaga series most interesting!
The second I read the 3rd paragraph I knew it mean shin megami tensei...
Bayonetta? Someone didn't play the game. The God in the game isn't a Judeo-Christian deity. And I seriously doubt Christians would feel sympathy for the Joy angels. Who cares anyways. They need to finally wake the fuck up. Their whole religion is bullshit and I'm sick of them ruining my fun because they're too stupid to realise it.
god, I pray to you today with a purified heart.
I hate religious people, please send them to hell.
Ah, battling God in Shadow Hearts was epic... Anyway.
Honestly, whenever there's a trend in the game industry, people just need to stop crying wolf. Every theme will run it's course and then die out. This one's nothing new.
I love how they bash Dante's Inferno like the game developers made up the entire story. Someone needs to catch up on their literature.
haha fuck religion!
exactly. the entire story was a representation of the author Dante's outlook of the world following some shitty life experiences. So whatever
Guitar Hero? Seriously?
Religion...The greatest story ever told. Talk about Major League Bullshit!
hey where is Xenosaga series? UDO vs. Wilhelm? anyone?
Okay so from reading that, i don't belive he's acutally disgusted with how satanic games are but the fact they all are rated T and not M.
OMFG the world is going to end now.
I think the real reason why anti-God themes become more prevalent in the last 10 years is because people want a good explanation as to "why believe god."
At 1st this might seem totally retarded to ask, as faith is something that requires no proper logical reasoning to back. But I think people really are questioning something more complex : If believing or not needs no logical reason to back up, and there are so many choices other than believing in the Christian/Catholic/any monotheistic religion they're used to, why not believe in myself/believe anything at all?
Seems life goes on with or without it either way...
so these games are really just portraying the same thing novels and other mediums had to find good proper response as to why these ideas need stay, as it seems to be very irrelevant to daily life.
the other factor is of course certain extreme theists are performing some pretty extreme acts to prevent the world to be a better place, which makes it more questionable to make religious morals a social standard.
now the issue with portraying devils as a the hero is really just to make the narrative/work easier for people to understand by taking the obvious opponent of god as the hero to contrast it. Simply making it black and white. It's definitely easier to digest such a story than something without a clear opponent. recall your highschool english class:
man V man, man V self, man V nature.
without it, most of us were told that it's not a good story because it's difficult to see the objective of the protagonist.
Now that being said, I don't mean that all of games developed had these in mind consciously, it's just an underlying question that was left unanswered for a while. So there will be those who don't have a clue about what they're story is portraying and simply just want to make it look cool by being "anti_god"
this is the phenomenon of millennium: everyone thinks its cool to be different, ending up just AS different as everyone else.
What comes to the english class (or the literature, in my country) I think it is a bad way of teaching as presenting a story that has many layers and is made for interpretation as a good story, and then assume that the students would follow linear story telling without any layers or possibilities to interpretate (happens in my country too).
However, as for the God -subject: Sin sells, as it is "scandalous". And why are people so ready to think awry of the God? Simply because it becomes more and more conflicted with itself; in the Old Testament the God was of hate, in the New Testament, God was forgiving. To this tought was based most of the prothestantic religions; to interpret the Bible by one self. And as these religions (dominating in many countries of europe, for instance) seems to regress to the word of the Pope (the reason for prothestantic religions to form was to diminish the word of pope as a fundamental law), people who know of their Bible starts to wonder: Whos side the God really is? I mean he's son, for instance, said to those, who was formerly unalowed to be blessed, to be blessed (women and children), but the common protestantic religion seems to dismiss the female preachers and homosexuals just because the same authority that was to turn away the women and children, wrote so in a part of a sentance. So, as people's wiev of the god differs from the one of the authorities, one must ask: Where do I belong? What do I believe? and since the authority is an authority, it must be so that this wiev of the authorities is the correct one and therefore conflicts with the one of the people and must be overcome.
Ps. I think it would be neat to see a story from the natures wievpoint as nature v man.
Because being a holy figure and defeating the devil is so back in the day. It's not so bad-ass anymore.
I am shocked that nobody mentions Dungeon Keeper 1 & 2.. I mean, the protagonist's head is a inverted star for crying out loud.
"Even the most hard-core gamers are sounding the alarm about the rise in the number of satanically-themed video games"
No. No, we are not.
Quit trying to push your religious conservative agenda on me and let me play whatever videogame I want.
Who cares. eat one and stfu is what id like to say. but one tiny voice does nothing to quell the stupidity that is chained by religion.
This only probes how everyone hates christianity, and how they've waited until the spark could finally ignite. We can't punch a believer in the face IRL, but gams gave us plenty of better options.
Now, seriously, are these people bored of not having sex and want to rant on the first thing they find? They still believe Videogames can influence the youth?
I don't know why I'm surprised... I heard this kinda shit since the early 90's...
I am religious (Roman Catholic) and I strongly believe there is a lack of understanding on both sides. A perfect example is from Dante's Inferno when Dante goes "But the pope says we've been absolved from all our sins" when his verdict is hell. Many religious people do not UNDERSTAND what they are doing. God is about love, peace and understanding, forgive your fellow man. Where in the Bible did Jesus ever say, you are pagans, you are sinners I will kill you because you deserve it. Before HIS passion, when Peter sliced of a guard's ear, Jesus chastised Peter for doing so and heal the guard. Another example is from I had from during mass. The Father was saying that the new sin of this age is that is the loss of knowledge of sin. People do not understand right from wrong anymore and that is why we have all these debates. Lastly this goes back to the religious people. The Father said that many Christian's do not understand their own religion. They go to Church without actually listening to the preacher; just there to pay their dues. It's something they HAVE to do, but do not WHY they are going then thinking they are better, go around preaching when their knowledge is no different from those who don't go to church. Too many people blindly follow. The best example the Father gave was the parking lot. God is all about forgive, patience and love. But when you leaving the church, you get into fights, honk your horn at your fellow parishioners and some even give others the finger. Why are you even going to church if you cannot even follow the doctrine? The only thing I would say is the young people who cannot completely comprehend what they are playing may misunderstand the concept of God and Satan.
I find it funny that the writer complained about the Hitoshura's fall into true demonhood, but I also find it weird in his mention that you kick the asses of the three major Arc Angels.
Where, right before that boss fight you run through a dungeon filled with Angels who have mercilessly slaughtered the closest analogy to humans the Vortex world had, because they had a dream of equality.
So, angels slaughtering people who want to better the world < A human who falls into demonhood to end an eternal cycle of suffering, strife and sacrifice.
well well well the church and his declaration of... ALL THE THINGS THAT DON COME FROM US ARE EVIL!
first of... what happen to THE INQUISITION and all those scientist they burn on the stik... second yea they are losing popularity amount the young, but who fault is theirs whit that lame aptitude about everything ben bad. I mean we all believe in something and is not Catholicisms necessary, there is a lot of different cultures in the world and all have some dogma, so we have to put things right all the people in the world don't share the same beliefs.
SO FUCK OF RAZINGER YOU WERE A NAZI REMEMBER!
Umm, Midway doesn't even exist anymore.
I just can say this as both christian and a gamer, just like anime and reality, both are different and can't be mixed, so do videogames and religion. Such long debate like this is unnecessary, because this king of argument is like trying to say "Water is better than oil" or vice versa.
As a christian, i play nocturne, devil summoner, and other SMT series and i'd say myself they were pretty good. Sure nocturne's concept is more like for demon to aid against god (i use small 'G' because the god here which they say YHWH is just a character, not reality, just like sometime you put a real life person into videogame).
What i recommend is just don't mix them up, doing like this is like mixing water with oil, which is obviously impossible.
And last thing, do you guys really give impression for christian or people with religion are better than atheists? For me, i'll give a big no, they're the same and they're even.
Among the magnitude of posts, my opinion.
I wanted to say that God and the Devil are on opposite ends of the pole, but representing something greater. Where, God = obedient people; and the Devil = disobedient people (teenagers). This means that developers are making the games as a medium to target younger individuals, such as teenagers. Which just happens to be the best time to "hook" people into the gaming industry. The developers are not choosing to go against god, but are just siding with the mindset of an average teenager, being rebellious and all.
It's a conspiracy to get people to bicker mindlessly and not pay attention to what's going on in the world.
This is just sad. In Dante's Inferno you are fighting against Satan and his minions, in Darksiders you fight for neutrality and in games like Dragon Age it is an RPG so you can play it how you want. It is really sad that some religious folks are freaking out about this stuff. Funny, I don't remember them complaining back in the days of PS1 when most games MADE you fight for good and in the name of God. XD
ok here is the answer (if not already given) of this worthless post
THERE IS NO FUCKING GOD IN THIS FUCKING WORLD!!!
WHOEVER SAW A GOD HERE!? ANSWER: NO ONE!!
same for the dead. if its dead, its not alive ;)
I wonder....doesn't everyone in this world have the right to believe what they want without getting insulted or bashed...whether they believe in religion or think it's a sham? Doesn't everyone in the world have the right to their beliefs without people saying that it's wrong?
There is no such thing as wrong or right, because it's all what we're raised to learn and what society teaches us.
And when it comes to religion itself....we'll only know for certain when we die...who wants to find out?
Guitar Hero!?
Really now?
"• Nocturne (Playstation 2): A game in which the hero (a demon) destroys the three Archangels St. Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, then goes on to destroy God."
Fail
You have to kill Metatron too (shame you dont get to kill Sandalphon :( )
And the three Archangels are Raphael, Gabriel & Uriel! In Nocturne you can fuse St Michael, but never fought against him! Lance Christian is a little noob!
hell, god and demons are fake just like the video game your playing so who gives a shit...
For crying out loud goddamn it, why don't those Christian groups make an awesome christian game instead?
All they have made in history are those stupidly outdated Color Dreams / Wisdom Tree games.
Well, there is that whole Left Behind RTS thingy.
But they don't really need to. For example, the guy mentioned Dragon's Age. You can actually be good, you can take all the nice options, you can be religious and you can sacrifice everything to do good, all of which is fairly close to the acceptable Christian ethics, yet they only point out what they feel is unacceptable. Then again, fanatics will always be fanatics, can't argue with those.
But in Dantes Inferno you fight Luzifer :/
What happened to warhammer 40k.I think that stuff is even more over the top with 4 chaos gods ,the emperor,alien gods, star vampires,and soon to be born uber god. It even has arabs riding camels charging against 20m demons, demons posing as angels,sacrificing entire planets to make (insert name here) of doom, planetary genocide because of one heretic,brutal inquisition,xenocide etc
Yeah well god could be replaced by the easter bunny or santa claus, but that would only make the game more lame.
no words on godhand (ps2) btw?
lightspeed spanking must be tolerated by the church...
man Christians are such pimp sometime! :D
His name is Mr. Christian? What if he believed in another religion though, or no religion at all!!! Mr. Christian...The atheist!!!
hmmm... don't you beat the s#%t out of the devil in dante's inferno? wasn't that what Saint Michael did?
All this talk about religion is making me uncomfortable. I prefer people kept it private, really.
You don't kill God in Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. In fact God himself isn't even in the game. Kagatsuchi is a representation of God's will, the very thing that's you need to recreate the world. Destroying it would not be in anyone's best interest. Yes Satan is in it and yes you have the option of joining him but you can also kill him. Also yes Micheal, Gabriel, and Rapheal do appear in the game and you do fight and defeat them but you don't fight them then fight Kagatsuchi. It's a lot more complicated than that. It's all divided between factions who have their own ideal for the new world. Micheal, Gabriel, and Rapheal just happen to be part of a different and are therefore your enemies.
I know a lot about Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne and just from what I can point out about that I just know the rest of his accusations are half truths and in turn no better than septic sludge.
I'd like to kill me some unbaptized babies. I'm sure the Pope would like to join me, too, else he'd make baptism optional.
As a Catholic, I am going to have to agree with the nice people here at Sankaku Complex. It was the same thing with the DaVinci Code. If people can't tell the difference between fiction, and the Religion's actual doctrines etc... (which according to one's view may be another type of fiction) then let them believe in what the game presents or be "swayed" or what have you. We don't need stupid people crapping up the religion more than we already have. And there are plenty... in every religion.
The same way movies are rated R, games are rated M.
Age ratings are there for a reason. Parents aren't getting involved and eventually see what their kids are playing and have issues, when they should have read what kind of content are in these games to begin with.
All this talk of God-killing games and MegaTen gets a passing mention? Not only that, [relatively] OBSCURE MegaTen games.
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
GAMES ARE BAD!
THEY MAKE YOU MAD!
Die Infidels!
...I can see why Postal 2 was so controvesial, huh :)
Hahahahahahah
I never posted anything on this site, but this time o felt obliged, and i HAD to start with a laugh, because it is funny.
I guess i don't have much to say except for the fact that this article was written with the christian and catholic god in mind. Religion is a very subjective subject, there are many religions out there, each with their own gods and beliefs.
Of course there are exceptions, like when a game is clearly making reference to a particular religion. But still, it's kinda like the "Liberty City" in the GTA series, it's not really New York, it's just a fantasy representation of the city. Also, playing good cop or bad cop, is an entirelly diferent subject.
So what? Ever heard of the "Anti-hero"?
Everybody is allowed to express their own opinion.
We all have our own objective views don't we.
I'm sure some people just get tired of playing the "good" guy in games all the time.
Also, if a kid's really theological, then he wouldn't likely play games that "insult" his religion anyway.
It's just like saying "The Da Vinci Code" is diabolical for not understanding anything. People like these ultimately fail.