Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360 “18GB” vs PS3 “38GB”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Feb 24, 2010 17:56 JST
- Tags: Blu-ray, Comparison, Final Fantasy, Ports, PS3, RPG, Square Enix, Xbox 360
The Xbox 360 port of Final Fantasy XIII has been confirmed as being almost half the size of the PS3 version, coming in at 18GB on 3 DVDs versus 38GB on one BD, far smaller than expected.
The comparison comes by way of review copy:
Disc 1: 5.9GB
Disc 2: 5.8GB
Disc 3: 6.6GBTotal: 18.3GB
Xbox owners will likely be hoping careful movie compression will limit the difference, but obtaining over 50% compression without a significant loss in movie quality is not very likely.
More problematically, preliminary reports are already showing actual in-game graphics have suffered on the Xbox 360, far from reassuring news for what was supposed to be an “absolutely identical” port.
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God, make the fucking crying stop....
still gonna play it, and then I'll decide to beat the damn horse or not...
The game sucks anyway so who would bother buying it?
xbox sucks.
That's sort of why we play Xbox 360 these days.
No, it sucks in the sides and blows out the back. Get your facts straight.
HAHA GAYBOX SUCK BBOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! YOU GUYS FAIL THE GAME SUCK ? FFX WAS SUCK ALSO PAL,FF12 IS MORE GAY ASS,FF7 IS FK BORING FF8 IS SHIT FF9 IS NOOB.WTF MAN FF13 IS THE BEST ! FUK U ALL ASSHOLE GO BACK AND PLAY YOUR GAY MASTER CHIEF ASXS
Why would they get a 360 review copy in japan when the game isn't supposed to get released there?
Shhh. Don't ask obvious questions, just smile and nod and go along with the Sony-tards.
The only thing left to argue are load times.
So?
A bad game loses its sole selling point when ported to a new console. Big whoop. No matter what console it's on, Final Fantasy XIII is a rigid, linear game that makes the actual game parts feel superfluous.
I wonder if the game-breaking bugs that plague the PS3 version will be fixed.
who plays Final Fantasy XIII anyway?
obviously no one who is hating on it
lol @ everyone who complains at how horrible this game is and will still play it just to complain some more after they spend ridiculous amounts of hours playing it.... only to love it, but will post more hate just to look cool for their friends, but inside they will know :)
Completed the game a few weeks back, and I'll have to say that the storyline presentation and challenge provided in battles (which I hope they don't tone down for the US version) is enough to make it a very playable game.
The map is quite linear, I do miss having an entire world map to explore and having the need to find places to progress the storyline, but in exchange you'd always know what to do and where to go to.
In the words of Soundwave
"Playstation superior. Xbox inferior."
Oh man. Not being able to use Blu-ray seems to be hurting the Xbox.
This will suck for xbox arcade owners...I think microsoft wanted this game because they saw dollar signs in it......large size + reputable game with large fan base = sells on overpriced microsoft hdd's. I own a 360 elite and a ps3 slim (120gb)and I must say my ps3 is far superior to my 360. I purchased my ps3 first (2 years prior) so when I bought my 360 I had higher expectation's (like an internal wireless card at least). I think I will buy this game for the ps3 to test it out. I have heard mixed reviews as I did with WKC but I bought WKC and love it.
Every one is kinda complaining from their own perspective... The games are never good enough.
When it was old and classic, people said they wanted something different, new and all stylish.
Now, FF13 is out. And people are complaining for different reasons. again.
I never even post in comment sections of websites. But I have to say. I am a true Final Fantasy fan. I have played all of them. And not just after 10 came out and everyone started jumping on the bandwagon. I played 7 and it was wonderful. Story, plot, side quests, characters, everything. The same for 8,9,10. 8 was a little boring but 10 was outstanding. Anyone who really appreciated FF knows X was everything you could want in an RPG. 11 was wack and 12 was like 11 without the online play. FF13 is another step down from 12 in my opinion. Yeah the music queues up in the beginning and is enchanting but the story and characters, I can't connect with them like 7 and 10. Where you actually cared about what happens to them. They tried to create a female cloud and use graphics and systems comparable to FFX but failed on story, characters, and overall plot. No suspense to get to that next aeon. Or the thrill of facing off against sephiroth. What about the urge to venture into the open world and find wonderful ultimate weapons and armor. Why do you think everyone keeps hating on FF 11 12 and 13. Because the story was lame, the characters are stupid and not important. I haven't felt like staying up and playing all night since X. At this point I am just waiting for Square to remaster 7 in HD and even X too. As far as the Final Fantasy name goes, I hate to say it but I won't just buy it anymore based on it's title.
The game is only Linear until the end being you are running from Cocoon. Can't really go around in towns and cities and shop and explore when there is a militaristic people that view you as danger there. Also I'm sure they wouldn't want to have the Purge happen to them as well. So for the time being you are on the run until most of it is dealt with. The PSI-OP were right on their tail the entire time. As you can see by every time they stopped for a moment to breathe, Low and behold PSI-OP catches up to assassinate them.
So that's about 3.3gb of extra space left over on the 360 version that SE could have used for textures/audio/video of higher quality.
Now if only it was a good game...
Once again, I can say "I told you so" to my X360 owning friend. Didn't believe me back then. But now disc swapping confirmed.
Too bad we were both wrong on how the game turned out compared to past Final Fantasy titles.
I may have "won" in this case but in a sense, we both lose in the end.
So you are lazy fuckers who can't move yourselves to change a disc? Dose your mother come into your room and let you suck her tits when you get hunger? I mean if taking 10 seconds to swap a disc is to much for you, who the fuck knows how hard it will be to feed yourself.
Hey fuck tard! It's the simple fact we shouldn't have to switch discs. The tech is out there and we pay GOOD money for these systems that are supposed to be top notch. We shouldn't be having to interrupt gameplay and story to "insert disc 2" or lose content like in Lost Planet 2's case.
An entire site of people bashing on the 360... I bet if Xbox had every JRPG or J-Game in existence instead of Playstation you all would be sucking its proverbial balls instead. Just a bunch of whiney otaku bashing on a console for it's lack of what you want on it due to Playstation's monopoly over all the (not going to say good) mediocre games like Final Fantasy.
Quit bashing something for the purpose of bashing it and go sit contently with your little PS3 version. Unless of course you own a 360 and are just butthurt over a developer halfassing the game on your console.
sanaku complex, *facepalm*
when 360 games install, only useful data is installed, never the whole dvd.
when you want to troll, be knowledgeable. but i don't expect much from wapanese playstation fanboys.
I'm good with my 3.2G Super Mario Galaxy, thank you.
I'd like to add that no number of these stupid stories stop the 360 from having a far, far better selection of games, and that includes shooters and visual novels. One of the only compelling reasons for me to even turn on my PS3 is Ar Tonelico 3.
Japs is considered a racial slur, just wanted to throw it out there.
it seems like everyone has heard and read about the game, but how many of you have actually payed it??? this game is awesome and the story was great. the gameplay was fun and challenging, the story was very well presented and there is pretty much always somewhere to go and someone to beat, its not hard to run into them of course because of the linear paths the game follows. yes, a lot of the game is in a straight path but its so much fun and the story really is interesting(excluding hope haha that kid is so annoying) if your a ff fan and your not gonna get this game because of what you've read and heard then i feel sorry for you. and the creators should definitely be proud of making this awesome game. the whole optima change system was really cool and challenging, once you've mastered it its A LOT of fun. i honestly didnt notice the game was linear until i looked on the internet and saw everybody without the game complaining haha, this game really really draws you in. i could talk about how awesome this game is all day. Truly worthy of that 39 out of 40 it got from famitsu
My good man speaks the truth, I'm still waiting for the PC version, havent bought a major console since my ps2 in 2000 imo that was/is still the best console on Earth. Been loyal to Final Fantasy series for almost 15 years and they were all great. Oh boy has the quality of forum replies gone down as the age of posters getting younger and younger.
You bought Endless Eight I take it.
You get all your new only from sankaku I take it
I'd say he's not afraid of getting down-voted for voicing a positive opinion of the game in this site.
This game is so dumb I liek herd from everyone that this game is liek a marathon fuck SE for being so idiots! Now filesize is smaller not because xbox discs are dvd and ps3 is blu-ray but becaus SE are idiots and its stoopid marathon game!
Right, Sankaku, right??? I do good?
your logic is flawless. someone get this man a nobel.
noe you has bad logic. the game is stupid marathon game becuz that wot sankaku say and this is whhy SE is stupid and ruin games!!!
it seems like everyone has heard and read about the game, but how many of you have actually payed it??? this game is awesome and the story was great. the gameplay was fun and challenging, the story was very well presented and there is pretty much always somewhere to go and someone to beat, its not hard to run into them of course because of the linear paths the game follows. yes, a lot of the game is in a straight path but its so much fun and the story really is interesting(excluding hope haha that kid is so annoying) if your a ff fan and your not gonna get this game because of what you've read and heard then i feel sorry for you. and the creators should definitely be proud of making this awesome game. the whole optima change system was really cool and challenging, once you've mastered it its A LOT of fun. i honestly didnt notice the game was linear until i looked on the internet and saw everybody without the game complaining haha, this game really really draws you in. i could talk about how awesome this game is all day. truly worthy of that 39 out of 40 it got from famitsu
I actually did... And while I think some aspects are fun, most of the stuff in the game is not so fun for me. And I feel that 39 out of 40 was underserved. I decided to abandon this game halfway. I understand the best part is near the end, but I don't want to waste more time on something I'm not really enjoying. I'm giving this game back to my friend.
Maybe I'll buy the English language copy when it comes out and I'm in a long vacation... But this game is LOW in my entertainment priorities.
Paid post up here, as paid review from famitsu
You must not have played the other Final Fantasy titles. I agree the game does not suck as much as everyone says. But most dedicated fans have to come to appreciate Final Fantasy for what it is, not for what it could be one day. Almost all other FF games involve a gripping story, and characters. The ability to roam through an immense world and a myriad of side quests for weapons, armor, and magical moments. You really cared what happened to the characters and how they progressed. In 13 they stick you right in the middle of a confusing story and never really let you make the quest your own. It reminded me of playing sonic the hedgehog, where the backgrounds look amazing but the actual game play was boring and you just grind through to get to the next let down. After about 25 hours, I didn't care who had what weapon, I just leveled everyone up equally and optimized the best equipment. Not the way I would ever play a Final Fantasy. I just don't understand if they're going to make a game so different than what fans have come to love, than why not call this something else. Why shovel shit and call it sugar.
Reducing the resolution isn't going to save on disc space. Unless they drastically dropped the texture quality (to the point where the game wasn't even comparable, and it doesn't look quite THAT bad) then yes, the size difference will be reduced movie and sound quality. The 360 version's movies are in 720p (1280x720) compared to the PS3 version's movies which are in 1080p (1920x1080). Add to that the fact that the PS3 version will most likely have uncompressed sound compared to the 360 version's Dolby Digital, and consider that FMV and sound usually take up most of the space in any game, and it's not hard to see where the space savings come from.
FF13 is hardly the first game to do this, either.
That kind of downsampling on the video and sound files, in a game that's practically an interactive movie (barely above stuff like Heavy Rain), is already enough to reach the 18 GB mark, no additional texture compression necessary. Many 360 games have just as many textures as FF XIII, and some of them may look even better. If there's any kind of limitation in that respect, it definitely has to do with Squeer Enix doing a rushed job... on what already seems to be a rushed game no less, lol.
the ps3 does have better graphics, which is most likely due to a higher texture resolution.
and texture do take a lot of space. even if they're s3tc/dxtc compressed.
just have a look at the hires texture packs available for some rpgs, they can easily be several gbs large. even for a not-so-recent game like oblivion, the community hires texture addon is 2gb.
I'm going to make this easy for all of you before the PS3vsXbox360 arguments get posted like wildfire here.
PS3:
1) Great graphics
2) Single Disk so no Disc Switching
3) Will most likely have a HDD install.
4) Best of the 2 consoles in terms of graphics and gameplay immersion
Xbox360:
1) Most people have a Xbox360 in the U.S. at least, so you'll get to play a usually Sony only game
2) Will most likely have some sort of HDD install
3) Is FULLY piratable, so you cheapos out there will most likely flood TPB, ISoHunt or whatever you use.
4) Xbox360 controller>PS3 Sixaxxis/DualShock 3, just fukken admit it, it's an awesome controller Sony fans. Even PC users like the damn thing and that's saying something considering the whole KB/M arguments.
Either way, graphics don't make or break a game at least to me. A great storyline, great characters, and awesome gameplay matter more than oh LOOK!! It's shinier!!! However great graphics are most definitely a plus. However considering the opinion that Sankaku-ites(?) hold here, what does it matter right? Hell, even Artefact's opinion has been less than stellar.
inb4 relentless down-voting.
P.S. Hopefully this doesn't get double-posted, if it does, I deeply apologize. :)
360 controller = horrible. Your argument fails.
Having both systems and a PC for gaming, I'd have to say the X360 controller is the most comfortable device you can have in your hand. The absolute worst is the Gamecube controller. NOW THAT'S HORRIBLE.
If I was to play a traditional fighting game, I'd take the xbox controller over the PS3's weird d-pad any day.
No hard drive install needed for the PS3 version. Also Final Fantasy is hardly a Sony only game.
No HDD install for FFXIII on PS3. By getting this fact wrong, all of your other arguments are automatically nullfied, including the one about the controllers.
the 360 controller is as much crap as there can be in an input device. especially the d-pad. the ps controller ain't perfect, but it's at least suitable for playing beat'em'ups.
and yes, i'm normally a pc gamer. my tools are a keyboard and a mouse.
but your other arguments do have a point.
So you say that Bayonetta sucks on ps3 because ps3 sucks. Bayonetta sucks on ps3 because sega sucked porting it, not a limitation of the ps3 hardware wich can provide us quality graphics like Uncharted 2. But will you say that FFXIII sucks on xbox360 because Enix suck? It sucks because xbox360 lacks on media space. xbox 360 is shiting game development, they already blocked FFXIII development and they are doing the same with Lost Planet 2, for how long do you think 360 will survive?
The comment never said that Bayonetta or the PS3 sucked due to the reasons you posted. If I'm not mistaken; The post I believe you're referring to already acknowledged the fact that Sega did a terrible job porting the game over to PS3. They were merely inferring that the criticism the two FFXIII versions are receiving will rival - if not surpass - the criticism Bayonetta received upon release.
The only hate present in the post is the minor quip about FFXIII being a marathon, and the more obvious hate towards the broken Tales of Graces game.
No your completely wrong HDD installs will save the day not crapoloa on blu-ray vs DVD, if you can install the game on HDD its fine doesn't matter if it take 5GB to 38GB.
Seems like all Japs forget that HDD installs saves disc swapping. Sigh
They won't save shit if you've gotta pay out the ass for a Hard Drive on the 360 when you can get the same size on PS3 for a third of the price.
You have to remember that 360 owners can't just go and grab a huge hard drive for cheap because of Microsoft's hardware lockdowns.
Man, honestly this is just the same piece of news repeating over and over...
It's less than half actually since 18x2 = 36 and 36 is less than 38...>_>
Not a big surprise.
SquareEnix games always have a crapload of movies. They have FMVs for introductory scenes, action scenes, pretty much anything they think could look just a bit more awesome. I imagine that at least half of the game's size on the PS3 is completely uncompressed video and audio.
You can save a LOT of space with compression and in the good cases, the loss of quality will be minimal in the case of video and unnoticeable to anyone but an audiophile with incredible hearing.
My main worry is that the game will have slowdown or glitches from a poor port. SquareEnix knows the Xbox360 pretty well by now, I should think. As long reviews indicate I don't have to deal with "Bayonetta PS3 Pre-Patch"-levels of loading times and the framerate remains fairly consistent, I'll be picking this one up on Xbo360. Graphics and audio aren't such a holy grail to me that I have to see the devs push the system every new game I pick up, so gameplay and content being equal I'll pick the controller which doesn't give my hands cramps after a couple hours of play.
XBOX users should be happy they are getting a port at all. Especially if they are too cheap or simply unable to own a ps3.
After the VESPERIA incident who would want to buy another RPG for 360? You're either being beta tested or screwed of sheer quality/data of a game.
But if it's all you got....
Yet another one that makes me wonder if some people are happy being fucking retarded monkey fuckers.
Easy. Vesperia for PS3 isn't being released outside of Japan, so no loli fun in English, so of course they'll be happy they got the 360 version, rather than the sad people waiting forever for an edition that'll never come.
Don't call yourself a gamer?
Being a gamer and being an idiot are two different things.
I'm going to make this easy for all of you before the PS3vsXbox360 arguments get posted like wildfire here.
PS3:
1) Great graphics
2) Single Disk so no Disc Switching
3) Will most likely have a HDD install.
4) Best of the 2 consoles in terms of graphics and gameplay immersion
Xbox360:
1) Most people have a Xbox360 in the U.S. at least, so you'll get to play a usually Sony only game
2) Will most likely have some sort of HDD install
3) Is FULLY piratable, so you cheapos out there will most likely flood TPB, ISoHunt or whatever you use.
4) Xbox360 controller>PS3 Sixaxxis/DualShock 3, just fukken admit it, it's an awesome controller Sony fans. Even PC users like the damn thing and that's saying something considering the whole KB/M arguments.
Either way, graphics don't make or break a game at least to me. A great storyline, great characters, and awesome gameplay matter more than oh LOOK!! It's shinier!!! However great graphics are most definitely a plus. However considering the opinion that Sankaku-ites(?) hold here, what does it matter right? Hell, even Artefact's opinion has been muted.
inb4 down-voting.
PC users will only use the 360 controller for "console" style games. You will not see a PC user use it with a RTS, FPS, or MMO unless they are a retard.
Get your facts straight?
No HDD install for FFXIII on the PS3.
And no, controller preference is just that.. preference. I prefer xbox controller for FPS and Dual Shock 3 for everything else.
It reflects really poorly on the 360, but it's totally the dev's fault here. Unfortunately, that won't stop people from saying that the 360 sucks because FFXIII looks better on the PS3.
SPOILER ALERT: Square-Enix and Sony planned this from the start.
I would ussually say that this is the devs fault too, but it wasn't meant for the 360. It's a port; it's not going to be as good. I also don't have any reason to believe that SQEnix and Sony planned this. That would make not sense. SqEnix wants to make money, and they're not going to get it from a bad product.
Audio, video, and textures are always the biggest things when uncompressed. They're the obvious targets for cutting size quickly.
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Textures are limited by the vram unit of the Console anyways. If you think the BluRay is packed with HIGH quality textures, then you're dead wrong. The vram Unit of the PS3 or 360 can't handle High res textures. Just look at the Half Life² Cinematic Mod. The best PC is just enough to handle them Photorealistic textures and they dont take up 40GB >_>
I agree with the Audio and Video part though. My guess is, that the Videos for the PS3 version are FullHD like 1080i and the 360 is running only 720i. I think the PS3 version has uncompressed audio as well...
Sadly they aren't in 720.
huh. other than the crappy-ness of the game (which is becoming somewhat of a bore), how about elaborating more about the awesomeness of the movie cut-scenes?
i'm sick of hours of non interactive cutscenes in games. this isn't the ps1 era anymore.
yippie? who the fuck cares, they took out japanese voice acting and SO4 for the ps3 had it...such BS
SquareEnix does not make the Star Ocean series, it is Tri-Ace with Square as their publisher.
I suppose it's safe to assume with the rise of hate in superiority differences between the two versions released; that this game will reach the same level of infamy that the PS3 Bayonetta port did.
However, despite the poor port on Sega's behalf - Bayonetta was still awesome. FFXIII - no matter the console - will still be a long marathon. At the very least it's not a broken game like Tales of Disgrac...I mean Tales of Graces.
lol @ people who keep on calling this game a marathon.
lol @ people who keep judging a game before playing it
I'm not judging something I haven't played. I properly imported the title only to find myself dragging my feet to finish the game. You'll see when you get to play the game just how much of a chore it is to complete the story up to Gran Pulse. Only when you're given the freedom to explore and take-up side-quests does FFXIII become enjoyable.
A thought crossed my mind the other day. About the whole "towns were too much of a pain in the ass to program for the ps3" thing, got me wondering how FF XIV will turn out, being as it an mmorpg and all.. (sorry. kinda off the subject a little there)
it'd still look better in a massive box set =p
Yeah.. 5 extra dvd9 should have resolve the problem...
Discs would probably be for a single use as you go through the game. One for "gameplay", the next purely for video. "Yay, almost time to swap dis- RRoD..."
Another FF13 article just reminds me: Vanille doujins nao.
Maybe it just proves how ridiculously complex the PS3 coding version for the game is?
(remember people - FFXIII was initially supposed to be made for PS2.)
Maybe it just proves how ridiculously is the quality of the videos of the Blue ray compared to a "normal" dvd. Or a normal dvd movie is better than a BD one, cause it have less gigs.
codesize is nothing compared to the size needed for textures/movies/models
Well Duke Nukem Fornever was initially supposed to be made...
Maybe it proves that you guys are fanboys and can't accept that Final Fantasy on PS3 is better than on the 360.
This article is wrong. I have all 3 FF13 DVD's and they weight in at about 23 gigs. Want proof? Go find the iso files for FF13 for the xbox. No matter where you find it or download it, its over 20 gigs.
And yeah, after playing the game on the 360, the graphics are better than any other game I have ever played. But all this bickering about graphics is stupid because THE GAME SUCKS BEYOND belief. Even if the graphics were way better (which is silly because they are already awesome) you'd get more fun using the DVD's as frisbee's than actually using them to play the game.
They should have made it into a 24 CD box set, releasing each CD slowly, along the same time line it takes to release each anime DVD.
As a bonus feature you get to see the map of FF13 when you line all 24 cd casings side by side when you have finished the collection.
I have owned and played the PS3 version.
It could be interesting, but expensive too.
I hope they make an ocidental version of the PS3 Lightning Edition, i want to play the game, despite the bad reviews, i want to go more for the story and graphics.
So... in the PS3 Enix said that even if the story was boring and the game more straight than a ruler, it had rocking graphics and amazing videos... in the Xbox they are saying the graphics are not that amazing and the videos will lack the "holy crap that's good" factor?... jesus christ, really, I was going to post a comment like "then the FFXIII for the Xbox 360 is more useful as a cupholder or a frisbee for my dog" but this fact is just so sad... and I kind of feel pity for the people that made the game, I mean, their names on the credits are like a tribute to epic fail that'll last forever and haunt them on their nightmares.
its only linear till the end where the game world opens up the entire game isnt linear though
I agree that FFX killed Final Fantasy, in fact I think it killed the whole jrpg genre. It's a horrible on-rails piece of shit with barely any game world content to speak of (remember it had like 2 fully explorable towns), and anyone who likes it should be fed to wild bears.
I actually loved FF9 and FF10. Go figure.
I guess you are one of those who loved ff9, because it reminds you of the classics snes ff.I loved FFX and hated FF9 (a mini-monkey for main character?no man, no), and i guess this is true for must people, you love one or the other, but not the two at the same time.But i still respect FF9 because it was made for the old school fans, and thats okay in my book, but saying that FFX killed Final fantasy? Thats just make me want to see wild bears look at you and thinking "i'm going to turn you into my poo"
Oh wow! You mean at the END of the game I get to actually explore?! :O
Yea, thats like giving me a dead hooker for my birthday. Fuck you and fuck everyone that uses that same argument.
HEY GUYS LETS RIP ON A GAME WE HAVENT PLAYED YET!!!
how about everyone shut the fuck up and play the game instead of being little bitches bitching about every little bitching detail.
oH noEz! NO tOwnZ!
go play monster hunter, pricks
From a developer or plot standpoint:
The game is only Linear until the end being you are running from Cocoon. Can't really go around in towns and cities and shop and explore when there is a militaristic people that view you as danger there. Also I'm sure they wouldn't want to have the Purge happen to them as well. So for the time being you are on the run until most of it is dealt with. The PSI-OP were right on their tail the entire time. As you can see by every time they stopped for a moment to breathe, Low and behold PSI-OP catches up to assassinate them.
are you kidding me? i thought 10 was fantastic. good story, good graphics. i also thought that the battle system was a nice break from the atb. of course this is coming from someone whose favorite ff games were 8, 10, and 12(probably ff fans least favorite ones). and yes ive played them all except for 5.
NO U!
Its the same as FFX =.=" which is linear until you get the airship to explore...
Final Fantasy X sucked.
only problem it's not really called exploring when you have a menu to choose the locations from.
ff10 killed final fantasy. (altough i liked the story and some of the music. character design was meh. graphics were/are awesome.
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Yeah... "explore" ... People were complaining that it wasn't possible to fly/walk around on a worldmap anymore. FFX was a good game, but it wasn't as good as any of the previous PSX Games, don't even want to mention FF6 on the SFC/SNES. lol
Final Fantasy X was worse but people didn't complain.
"Yea, thats like giving me a dead hooker for my birthday."
There's just no pleasing some people.
Dead hookers need love too.