Christopher Handley, the manga collector who faced 15 years after postal inspectors seized his shipment of loli manga, has been sentenced to 6 months in prison for “possessing obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children and mailing obscene material.”
The details of the case are visible in a previous report, but in summary 38-year-old Christopher Handley, a programmer who lived in his mother’s basement, ordered 7 loli manga from Japan, which customs inspector “Inspector Raper” took exception to after going through his package, leading to a series of criminal charges.
The judge ruled a number of the charges unconstitutional, but two charges based on “obscenity” stuck: “possessing obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children and mailing obscene material,” based on a technicality – he had committed an act of “interstate commerce”:
Section 1466A, the primary statute involved in this case, prohibits the dissemination in interstate commerce of a narrow category of “hardcore” pornography involving real or apparent minors, where such depictions lack literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
The court documents confirmed that Handley had in the eyes of the court committed a definite thought crime:
Mr. Handley may argue that this case is “just about drawings,” but such a characterization is misleading. This case is not “just about drawings” any more than child pornography cases are “just about photographs,” or cases involving threatening to kill a public official are “just about words.”
The acts depicted in some of these obscene materials are punishable in many jurisdictions by decades or more of imprisonment. The sentence should reflect these facts.
It would appear that possessing fictional depictions of violent crimes should by the same measure also attract a prison sentence.
The court’s official summary is available here.
Previously it appears he tried to gull the courts and media into thinking he was in possession of “yaoi” comics, but court documents reveal exactly which manga he was charged with receiving – all, save a bestiality manga anthology, were pure loli-manga by top loli-mangaka:
Maka Fushigi – I Love Doll
Maka Fushigi – Eromon
Maka Fushigi – Kono Manko ga Sugoi
Maka Fushigi – Jidou Porno
Nekogen – Otonari Kazoku
Tamachi Yuki – Mikansei Seifuku Shoujo
Anthology – The Animal Sex Anthology Vol. 3 (Kemono For Essential 03)
His defence apparently thought they would have difficulty convincing the local jury that these edifying titles were not “obscene” and so not constitutionally protected free speech, prompting his original guilty plea, in order to save him from a lengthy minimum sentence.
This did not stop them flagrantly lying about the content of the manga in question:
“There is explicit sex in yaoi comics, and the men are drawn in a very androgynous style, which has the effect of making them look really young.
There’s a real taboo in Japan about showing pubic hair, so they’re all drawn without it, which also makes them look young.
So what concerned the authorities were the depictions of children in explicit sexual situations that they believed to be obscene.
But there are no actual children. It was all very crude images from a comic book.”
The defence claimed that of the thousands of volumes he had collected, only a few were lolicon in nature, although their credibility is rather suspect in light of the utter fabrication above. The authorities kept 80 of 1,200 volumes seized, including such eminent lolicon titles as LO.
The judge sentenced him to 6 months in jail, 5 years on various forms of probation, and forfeiture of confiscated assets (loli manga and computer).
Additionally he will face lie detector tests and psychological evaluations, at his own expense, in order to monitor his “condition.” He must also pay a $200 fine.
The sentencing document is visible here.
It seems he will not have to register as a sex offender or be barred from future computer usage.
He faced a maximum of 10 years, and a lengthy federally imposed minimum sentence if convicted without the plea bargain.
Since he pleaded guilty and was convicted specifically on grounds of moving “obscene” materials in an act of interstate commerce, the actual murky overall legal status of loli-manga as constitutionally protected free speech appears to remain unchanged.
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...pornography involving real or apparent minors, where such depictions lack literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
We need more hentai with real plot for it to contain more literary/artistic value.
...political...
Make satirical hentais set in politics.
...scientific value
Sensei wa ii koto wo oshiete a-ge-ru!
Christ, if they ever get ahold of my comp I am done for.
TO ALL AMERICANS:
Since your constitution doesn't mean anything, you might as well wipe your asses with it.
Just saying.
No maybe it's time for an insurrection here.
I believe this part of art is just ones ability in how well they can express a drawn character regardles of what they are or for what they were drawn,since they are only drawn characters and aren't suddenly humans,animals or whatever they say since it's still only drawn characters and they are only fictional.
Guess people have a liking for drawn characters and the way one can express these characters,so it is considered art,but i still don't know any terms what to call this new sensation.
I even believe guro is art,becouse one who can express himself so violently in his art is truly of artistic value that is impossible to do it so in RL and it shouldn't be done in RL.
But if they still insist on giving rights to drawn characters,then i will draw my own waifu and demand they give her social support money since she can't get a job :P
Lol at all the butt hurt Americans. Do you love your country as much now? try to think about this case before you go back to your usual shit of posting racist comments in the china and japan news stories
every country is fucked up in its own way. Fucking grow up out of this 'AMERICA FUCK YEAH' that you've been weened on since kindergarten.
Butt-hurt? That's all you got?
Let me tell you who the bad guys are. They're us. WE BE BAD.
We're the baddest-assed sons a bitches that ever jogged in combat boots. We're three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother's side. You take your Germany, Spain, and France, roll them all together, and it wouldn't give us enough room to park our cars. We're the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Hong Kong. And we've got an American Express card credit limit higher than your pissant metric numbers go. Our country's never been invaded because I'd like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who'd have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning and eat railway track like pretzel sticks. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying "Cheers." Hell can't handle our night clubs. We walk taller, talk louder, spit farther, fuck longer and buy more shit than you know the names of. I'd rather be a junkie in New York City than King, Queen and jack-shit of all you other countries. We eat countries like yours for breakfast and shit them out before lunch.
There.
Satisfied?
*boggle*
*applaud*
'AMERICA FUCK YEAH' That's all you got?
Let me tell you who the bad guys are. They're us. WE BE BAD.
We're the baddest-assed sons a bitches that ever jogged in combat boots. We're three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother's side. You take your Germany, Spain, and France, roll them all together, and it wouldn't give us enough room to park our cars. We're the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Hong Kong. And we've got an American Express card credit limit higher than your pissant metric numbers go. Our country's never been invaded because I'd like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who'd have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning and eat railway track like pretzel sticks. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying "Cheers." Hell can't hold our night clubs. We walk taller, talk louder, spit farther, fuck longer and buy more shit than you know the names of. I'd rather be a junkie in New York City than King, Queen and jack-shit of all you other countries. We eat countries like yours for breakfast and shit them out before lunch.
There.
Satisfied?
i am an american and i agree with this
This is just absolutely outrageous.
I recommend reading this article about this issue, the writer makes some good points about why this is wrong and what is really at stake here:
http://correspondents.theatlantic.com/wendy_kaminer/2009/07/child_porn_animal_cruelty_porn_and_the_right_to_imagine.php
The authorities should really just shut up about all these lolicons.. Countries wont have high GDP if loli manga werent around
In 1915 the Supreme Court of the United States of America deemed motion pictures to not be of artistic value, and thus not protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution.
LET THAT SINK IN PEOPLE!
I did not know that. Damn.
Here's another one. The only legally protected pornography is 'mere nudity' or single male to female vaginal-only penetration that does not show the actual ejaculation of semen.
That's right, if you have anything more hardcore than that you could theoretically be charged with obscenity.
That's why Supreme Court decisions are REVISITED, which that decision was revisited and overturned.
The fact that Mr. Handley is a comic book collector and has every genre, not just manga doesn't make him a lolicon since those were the only books in the entire collection
Stay classy Sankaku.
You would hope there was a lawyer who reading these comments to go out and try to help this guy...
It's still injustice but 6 months he won't see the inside of a prison.
BTW last I checked lie detector tests are not admissible as evidence in court.
Really this case should have been thrown out and the postal inspector who brought up the charges fired and have his retirement revoked and given to people in Haiti.
despite all the outrage no one will actually do anything about it, otakus keep quite and lay low till they get caught and then we see the next arrest and hear more outrage. If anything is gonna get odne at all people will have to speak up, and thats just not gonna happen.
Majority of the layman crowd are fucking idiots and will not listen. So good luck!
Well atleast they only seem to be aressting extreme lolicons and not people like me, who enjoy regular school girl hentai.
They aren't even arresting extreme lolicons. I showed my whole lolicon collection to the FBI, as I said before, which included the Enjeru series and Lewd Angels works...... they said NOTHING on that subject.
They were more worried about whether I had REAL child porn, and when I told them no and showed them all my stuff, they went away.
If you are HONEST about the fact that you are a pedosexual and SELF-POWERFUL when they come to the door and give the impression that you are NOT going to be pushed around? The FBI backs down 9 times out of 10.
They don't WANT someone (unless they are a murderer or kidnapper suspect) who is going to fight back against them.
Another reason to not actually buy manga.
And you guys who are complaining about this conviction are the same idiots who want to have guns banned. Dude, if we end up getting rid of guns, what the hell are we going to shoot conservatives with? You know, the fucking rats that put these sorts of laws into place?
Masochists. I swear, man.
What... That doesn't make any sense. You're saying people for freedom of speech/expression rights are against gun rights?
Assume much?
As much as I hate pedophiles, I think the idea that loli manga encourages pedophilia is ridiculous. I'd prefer for the people who are interested in that to satisfy their interests through manga than to exploit real children. It's not like we can ever eliminate pedophilia entirely. Punishing someone for their preferred reading material is just ridiculous. It's only a matter of time until we're living in some kind of 1984-esque society.
Pedophiles are not child molesters. Wanting to have sex with children does not mean a person doesn't have a choice on acting on such impulses.
People are INNOCENT until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
There are plenty of pedophiles in the world, and many are not monsters. They didn't ask to be born with the attraction to children, anymore than gays asked to be attracted to the same sex.
In the end, we all need to replace every single leader of all the world's super-powers with raging, perverted otakus...
Tis' the only way...
No war, no moral dilemma, no drama...
Think about it...
Unrestricted making of videogames and movies...
No more "Oh no, you can't senselessly kill children in a videogame!!!" and "You can't show this in a movie!"...
If the creative minds of scientists and perverts collide, hell...We may even have Chobits...
Damn straight Loli is an outlet, just like violent video games are an outlet for violent tendencies. They are a pacifier not an instigator/motivator. Hense why places with access to such outlets have lower related crime rates than places without access to such materials.
Imaginary punishments only for imaginary crimes ....
With crap like this happening, the industry wonders why we download instead of ordering from Japan. THIS would be why. And I can guarantee you that if the person in this case who got railroaded ever gets loli manga again, it will be downloaded.
..he tried to gull the courts and media into thinking he was in possession of “yaoi” comics
So basically, it's A-okay if it's gay porn but not if he's being heterosexual on young 2D girls..?
..Additionally he will face lie detector tests..
Added more ridiculousness to this case; they're actually making it sounds like he's possessing a stolen top secret document from the military instead of collection of papers with inexistent girls.
The disturbing aspect of this decision is that the legal distinction between imagining a crime and actually doing it has been removed.
I'm no fan of loli porn. But clearly there is a difference between taking a photograph of a real girl illegally having sex and drawing a picture from imagination of such an act.
If there is any scientific evidence that looking at loli porn leads you to rape underage girls, clearly the law would be justified. However I don't think there is anything to show it.
Ah, but the PROBLEM is that saying that the girl having sex is illegal violates HER constitutional rights, which children do have the SAME RIGHTS under the law as adults do.
The Constitution says "ALL MEN" meaning... ALL HUMANITY, whether children, adults, babies, etc.
All humans have the same right AND the same responsibilities when it comes down to it.
No matter how you look at it, no average layperson and certainly no government nor nation will approve loli.
Tolerate, maybe to some extent... but definitely never approve.
The moral of this story:
If you have to get your loli fix, do it quietly, stay low, and don't get involved with the law.
You don't want to be caught. Ever.
wtf in some coutry a 60 year old bastard can marry a 9 - 10 old little girl legally ??
But we need know is exactly to law ??
what material is banned or illegal of those import stuffs.
Trying to confuse the court with "yaoi" and "loli" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I'm sorry, but this guy gets no sympathy from me.
First, knowingly break the law and getting caught.
Second, lying to the judge.
And thirdly, this will likely set precedence to future cases. Increased postal inspections? Tighter enforcement? Change the law to prosecute all loli manga owners? Angry politicians and vigilantes out to witch-hunt anime and manga communities? Don't forget, we can now add "lier" to our long list of unsavory characteristics that define our profile.
Sorry, buddy.. you deserve what you get.
And you're unknowingly dragging the rest of us down with you.
Please, get your head out of your asshole. You are robbing your brain of oxygen.
He broke no law. He has the right to view whatever he wants, even "obscene" material in the privacy of his house. It is a federal crime to look at someone else's mail.
It's pieces of shit like you why we are losing our rights. You raise your little white flag and surrender for what millions died for only 60 years ago.
I agree he broke no law but that postal inspector did break the law.
Actually, the funny thing is that the postal inspector didn't break the law... anyone that comes into the country from overseas CAN be opened by postal inspectors to make sure that it is not illegal to import..... they usually only open one package out of 1000 though, so this guy just had craptacular luck.
Who knows maybe he was first convicted only with yaoi and then they found loli?
Or was somebody else not saying the whole thing and not him.
He was a manga collector. He had imported thousands of them before this, none of them loli.
This was the first time he ordered 7 lolicon manga, some asshole would open his mail, which is a federal offense.
They x-ray these packages and only suppose to inspect ones that are suspicious. How are books suspicious?
"Mr. Handley may argue that this case is “just about drawings,” but such a characterization is misleading. This case is not “just about drawings” any more than child pornography cases are “just about photographs,” or cases involving threatening to kill a public official are “just about words.”
alright, what about every horror movie in existence? killing people is obviously a serious crime, yet many people watch, make, and enjoy films depicting such acts.
any form of entertainment that does not involve actual human right violation should not be illegal.
So wait, did i read that correct?
He received 6 Months in Jail for BUYING Loli Mangas?
This country is really fucked up...
he doesn't deserve that punishment.
welcome to "the land of freedom"! Indeed a full Christian democratic contry is the best!
Why are you people mixing the EU with the US? From what I know, there's no law in the EU that bans the possession of loli(or any other kind) of manga. It's just drawings after all. It's just a problem of the north america(US and Canada(and probably australia too)), clearly 2 very retarded countries!
Aussie won't even let you have a naked picture of 60 yrs old women (or man dressed up as woman)if they ain't got boobs. Thx to Australian Sex Party, flat chest aren't allowed there
Actually, that law is being challenged in the courts now and it's expected to be nullified by the courts on human rights grounds.
US, UK, Canada and Australia all seem to be in disfavor of lolicon. I heard Germany bans it too, but I'm not sure about that.
The Netherlands (where I live) has laws against virtual CP, but it's uncertain whether or not this includes lolicon. Goes for several other countries as well.
I ordered loli figures from japan and im in the us da fuck is this shit I thought this was in canada fuck this im pissed gonna go buy some loli lol
justice served
Are there any case where real child molester is found to own bunch of loli manga? I thought by reading loli manga can actually prevent pervert from going to real loli...
Yes just like watching lots of hentai increase your probability of becoming a virgin for life
God I'm getting sick of this fucking country. But shit if you'll find any place much better. If the human race is going to destroy itself, we need to get along with it already before those in power fuck up even more. Either that, or God needs to get off his ass and start the Apocalypse, or Armageddon, or Ragnarok, or whatever religion based "end of humanity" scenario is popular right now.
That's been said for years and it still hasn't happened yet. Doubtful it'll even occur over something like this.
because of a technicality this man's life is ruined. he will never get a job (even at McDonalds), he has probably been disowned, his drivers licence/id will forever be marked with him as a pedophile, and I'm sure nobody wants to date him. Yet we allow criminals to freely communicate in prison so they can become better criminals
if this is justice, than I don't want justice
In Germany lolicon is also illegal. Nearly all the lolicon sites (despite Handley's conviction) are based in the US. (Good luck with that, btw.) You can't name a single German website that has lolicon, I'll bet.
Actually, German censors completely fucked over Artist Stu Mead's website. Forced him to remove all his paintings - merely fictional views - from the web. So where's the logic in that?
If I follow the logic of all your reasoning, the logic is...out the window.
If you are not RABIDLY against , your opponents will use it as a cry against you. eg, "Sir, did you ever come out openly against Ginger Cats before the famous Cat trial?" No?, then that means you are PRO GINGER CAT!!! (Burn him)"
Most of these poor judges are scared of being seen as pro some inept concept, that they do not understand, because a loud minority is against it.
One famous American example comes to mid... "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party?"
Yep, supporting the mangaka by actually buying the manga from the source leads to prison but pirating it off the internet is perfectly fine mhm makes sense.
Again, it's about the contents and whether the security head and judge finds it sexually "deviant" as the judge put it. Pirating goes AROUND the law, and thus makes the act secretive.
Iowa is a social conservative state. I can't be surprised at the lynching Handley got there. They got their moralfag facist moralfag rocks off.
http://cbldf.org/about-us/case-files/handley/
Comic Book Legal Defense Fund says they might've prevented this abuse of the law by the facist pigs. Our victim never used the CBDLF as defense. Fuck, this pisses me off. I should've joind CBDLF last year(and gotten my KICK-ASS card). I still make donations on a regular basis.
It DOESN'T matter. It's the state. They have that power. If you get caught mailing yourself that kind of thing in ANY state you're PROBABLY screwed. It's all about the security department representative and his discretion.
I don't like it just as much as you hate it but until judges and security heads change it's nothing we can do about it. Such is the nature of the law.
I hope this paranoia will take lots and lots of victims to make them change the law ...
Very informative post, thank you BoG
"Pedosexual"?
No, my friend. The word is "pedophile." Sexuality indicates gender preference. "Child" is not a gender. I don't try to call myself a "macrosexual," and there's no reason for you to believe that your fetish is anything but a fetish either.
Having said that, I don't think there's anything wrong with a fetish - I just think it's mighty presumptuous of you to elevate lolicon and shotacon to the level of a sexuality.
Serves you right bitch!
Someone knows who's the artist of the image in this post? Its so cute :3.
Does this mean he finally left his mother's basement? It was a good experience for him in the end.
Poor guy...
The true meaning of "guilty pleasure"
well i got 3 Gigs of that shit been collecting em for a long time.. so come get me faggets but be warned im armed and will shoot u >:D
I have nearly 10 gigs.
3? Try 60 gigs.
The USA, always ready to fuck up. Fuck our constitution.
Welp, all this means is don't get things mailed to you from out of state.
YUP! Just don't do it. Better to leave the state yourself and have it in carry on.
ok now clean all churchs ans museums from art that show loli content
just watch the sixteen chapel is full of naked loli angels
''But there are no actual children. It was all very crude images from a comic book''
I think he makes a fair point there , its impossible just by looking at a loli manga for sure (or some at least,) that they are indeed depicting underage children.
I bow to this man who had the balls to say that to a court.
just want to say that i was expecting to see over 300 comments here.
You know the hole Pedosexualism thing is not helping your argument. Frankly I find pedosexualism disgusting.
The thing is when I see a loli manga etc, I don't see them as actual human fucking beings or even as children or adults. I see it as, "Oh some nicely drawn 2d art". I'm not really sure how to describe it.
Pedosexualism is not attractive. Pedosexualism is what the term means, having sexuality towards children. Society has every right to be afraid of people who are sexually aroused by children.
Frankly lolicons shouldn't be into the "children aspect". Gaah! This is too hard to explain.
Anyways the case is messed up but blabbing about paronia of pedosexualism isn't helping you either.
This.
Unfortunately the rest of the world will never understand this no matter how hard you will try to explain it to them.
The current ruling on what is obscenity is not a literal definition, but a completely subjective one. As a justice was quoted as saying "I can't define what obscenity is, but I'll know it when I see it." This completely subjective system of what is acceptable to own or express in private is beyond simply not being constitutional.
The theory itself can make sense on a completely superficial level, but it's simply another form of control that the government and others try to extert over people's lives...and their thoughts.
X&V,
K.D.S.
EXACTLY! And subjective laws take YEARS to change. This man is just the beginning soon there will be a slew of events occurring like this based on what people import.
6 months is without a doubt better than 15 years but damn... I say let them have lolicon. It's better than victimizing actual children.
How am I supposed to get any sleep after reading about this bullshit? ~_~
Well at least his sentence wasn't as bad as it could've been.
It's still setting a bad precedent, motaku. The actual CP Handley had on his HD I could see imprisoning him for, but not the manga.
Is why u dont buy it lol just get it online
well all things considered it could have been ALOT worse remember tht case about a guy who DL'd kiddy porn by accident and got jail time and a sex offender charge even though the file was accessed once then deleted
Actually, I've seen cases like that and a lot of them have been being overturned once a SANE judge looked at them.
Yeah you see either extreme. I wonder if he'd reported it if it'd make a difference? I think a lot more people would report the stuff and help police to find the origin of the file and save the kids if they didn't have to be afraid of being villainized themselves for making the discovery.
This is one of the major reasons why I call it AmeriKKKa; "Justice by Points"
The prosecutor, the police, do not care in the least guilt or innocence, they care about "Points". They make and break their careers by documented convictions they bring in, so they tend to go for easy targets then try to "Throw the book" at everyone to get as many "Points" as possible.
This has been going on a long time, but only now is totally entrenched. The prosecutors in the McMartin case were fired, not for human rights abuse, not for willfully prosecuting people they knew halfway through the trial (at least) were 100% innocent, but for failing to achieve a single conviction on top of the time and money they spent attempting it.
This sort of crime, "Technicality ThoughtCrime" is just a "Slam Dunk" where the action can be considered proof of guilt and because they can scream "Think of the CHILDREN!" like any witch hunt, anyone who dares speak against it is accused of being allied with or similar to the accused.
Here is what will deter it, though...
1. No mail, just download and use precautions.
2. Encrypt files, like with TrueCrypt and passeges from favorite books BUT with 'escrambling' done in a way you can absolutely remember and never have to write down.
3. When arrested DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE. "I invoke the 5th. I want a lawyer." NOTHING but that. If you are in an interrogation room for days, just keep repeating those two sentences, pretend you are else where building a house. You can NOT argue your way out of it, even if you do convince them you are "innocent". Even if they know you are innocent, they still will try to peg you because a "Real Criminal" might well fight back and knows to do at least this. You can not be prosecuted for what you do not say, but you can be for what you do. There have been people proven innocent released from death row days before their execution who talked to the police who asked them to help, but then the police openly lied and said they admitted things and used just enough selections from what they said to convince a jury.
Maybe you'll luck out and they'll clobber you big time, then you'll very quick be free with millions, or if they (unlikely, despite possible threats they'll make to try to get you to respond) kill you the "Justice by points" prosecutor will feed on the police to keep up his "Score" and save his ass then the police/prosecutor will be too busy fighting each other for petty abuse and all of them will get HUGE lawsuits from your relatives.
4. Some group, like the CBLDF, should get an ideal case (only Loli, no confession) and drag it on and on and on and on. Keep attention and donations coming in, drum up the accused as a hero, ensuring some of the funds go to help him get back on his feet when he gets out. If he's done something like a crude web comic, the new attention makes him the next "Mike Diana" and he can use/abuse that for a bunch of quick art contracts or jump start a career if he improves his skills in prison. Drag it on and on and on. Rave "ThoughtCrime is NOT Crime!" in ads everywhere and tribute comics... Vilify any relevant public officials as disgusting cowards who'd willfully let an axe murderer kill a family for more 'points' after he comes out of the house holding a bloody axe.
This works. In my neck of the woods, the state went to go Hitler like and crush an "Animal Hoarder". Good "Points" and makes them feel so powerful shooting a woman's dogs in front of her as they slap a grotesque fine attached to a property lien, right? Well, she wasn't a hoarder, she ran a "Puppy Mill". One of those industrial dog kennels that cranks out tons of exactly this or that breed so the pet stores can have "Only 6 weeks left before we kill these cute puppies and the next batch comes in!" signs. Commodotized life at 1/3 the cost of a "Licensed Traditional Breeder". They also paid the local paper to show the other side of the story, so instead of a very cruel person, she was depicted as a kooky but nice old lady, or a traditional breeder who accidentally bred more dogs just before the early recession and couldn't sell them all in time... So the city that did the hard work, with the state running away, ended up caring for thousands of horribly inbred, seizure prone mutts that thrashed and needed constant veterinary care for about 2 years as "Corporate Lawyers" dragged it on and on and on. They settled for a light probation and a token fine and couldn't euthanize the dogs, even paid some people to take them. Clear message, the next "Puppy Mill" just needs to keep it out of town and out of plain sight, they'll never be touched, they can't afford to.
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BTW-I donated to CBLDF, you all should too if you can afford it, even a small donation. I'm sure plenty of trolls will rave I'm a Loli fan, but hey, I have good reason to be against prosecuting this guy also;
For, if it becomes established even this "Thought Crime" is worthy of jail, what next-?
Perhaps jailing someone for multiple car thefts, manslaughter and murder for playing "Grand Theft Auto"?
And I'm sure the "Modern women who seek to destroy men", the "Equality Now!" and all the other "Hyenas in Petticoats" would love to prosecute anyone who reads or owns the works of the "Great one"... (hint, my Name)
Even if you are not a fan of this genera of comic you should be very afraid.
The people who do these type of witch hunts always always have ulterior motives.
The words of Martin Niemöller should be taken as a warning that witch hunts over thought crimes never results in anything good nor stay with in bounds.
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.
I don't care what you like. If you aren't forcing me to view it, it is your right to be able to choose what you want to view.
I also have the right to not view whatever you view.
And yet, we can't as a society seem to understand that free speech is all or nothing. They want to take away your rights, even though you are not taking away theirs.
the system is getting fucked up ever day. No longer is it about any form of justice or common sense, just whoever can play with semantics the most.
Exactly right, unfortunately... though I have to say that the child pornography, statutory rape and child sexual abuse laws were NEVER truly about protecting children from FORCED sexual encounters (the only thing that we should be trying to protect them from) but about keeping them celibate by fiat of law.
Told my children that if they were having sex with someone, to just keep it QUIET and if they were having problems with someone... come to ME and I would take care of it, don't tell the police unless the person in question actually forcibly raped or drugged them.
God, you are a smart wo/man. I salute you.