Eco-terrorist group Sea Shepherd has announced it intends to attack boats fishing for Northern Bluefin Tuna, a species for which most demand comes from Japan.
In an interview with the terrorist group’s leader, Sankei was told that the group’s next target is the Mediterranean tuna fishing industry, acting in protection of the Northern Bluefin Tuna (“Kuromaguro”), stocks of which are low.
Sankei notes that 80% of the global catch of this species finds its way to Japan, where it is highly prized, indicating the group is deliberately targeting Japan.
In other comments the group continues to assert its recently lost vessel was rammed by whalers in an act of piratical terrorism, and brags of having $7,000,000 with which to make good its losses and attack the Mediterranean tuna fishing industry.
2ch is increasingly unhappy about all this:
So they were just an anti-Japanese group after all.
Just a bunch of racists.
Why don’t they take a look at their own abattoirs…
What? Wouldn’t they be European vessels in the Mediterranean?
No, Japanese boats ply those waters too.
So, will they be attacking French boats too?
They only ever attack Japanese.
If they start messing with non-Japanese ships there’ll be warships coming to greet them…
Everyone eats tuna, hardly anyone eats whale. Now even the Japanese who supported them will be turned against them.
Nobody cares about whalemeat, but don’t get between the Japanese and their tuna!
Tuna boats aren’t going to be half-baked in their response like whalers. If they board one, they’ll be beaten off the boat.
Do these guys think the men on those boats will just stand by like the gentle folk on those whaling ships? They won’t get off lightly.
In Japan, working a tuna boat means becoming a dead man. Challenging men who’ve thrown away their lives like that…
Do something about these terrorists.
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There have been a few reports concerning tuna in the mediterraean countries aswell. I can't bring myself to remember which group - greenpeace perhaps - published a list of whatever company actually fish tuna properly, without damaging the sea bottom and other kinds of fish which get caught in the nets. The list was published along a warning against the extinction of the tunas, as it seems they're in danger as a whole.
This is extremely sad for me, seeing as how much tuna I eat myself.
There was a shortage of this particular species of tuna just a few years ago. If you thought you were eating tuna back in 2007, well, think again.
A lot of sushi is being made with substitute fish with similar appearance and flavor because their real counterparts are becoming harder to find. Their methods are retarded, but Sea Sheperd does have a point in saying that we, as a global society, have an obsession with sushi that needs to be tempered. I don't know how accurate marine biologists are with their predictions of fish depletion, but I'd like to keep eating my sushi -- in very, very moderate quantities.
Not in Japan. If sushi fans can tell from taste which part of the fish the meat is from, how much success do you think they'd have substituting another species?
I think Sea Shepherd has chosen a clear target. They can't afford to screw around with more aggressive countries' fishing efforts.
A lot of success. Supermarket sushi and any restaurant sushi where the price seems inexpensive or average will likely have these substitutes. You make it sound like half the country is made up of sushi gourmands.
Well, it kind of *is*. You certainly would see this kind of stuff in the convenience store ones and the rotating table restaurants.
But in ye olde shop of $5 per piece sushi made by chefs who spend a large portion of their life seriously apprenticing in sushi making?
Doubtful.
It does seem kind of random though, everybody eats tuna, which is of course the problem, but why would they target something that just won't be stopped by the likes of these small fry, no pun intended. lol they make me laugh with the 7 mill boast, 7 million is probably what one tuna boat could turnover in a day. So for the one tuna boat they might destory the over thousand would be still doing just as much damage. It's like treading on a single ant and expecting the whole nest of ants to cave in.
Why cant they just get into some kind of agreement... Japan should stop hunting whales and the Sea Shepherd would stop intervine with their fisheries activities or something like that.
I'm sorry, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
someone needs to fund a terrorist group that targets terrorist groups o.0
you mean a justice league lol
@11:13, isnt that what you call a vigilante group?
anyways, i hate seafood, so i dont really care where this goes.
@11:13
You mean like Celestial Being?
If you want to be technical, that agreement is already in place. If Japan actually followed international law (or other countries were enforcing it) then the Sea Shepherds would have no gripe and no funding.
The problem is not enough of the voting public cares to push it up to their representatives who in turn would take it to the diplomats. Minimal domestic pressure results in international laws not being enforced since no one has an interest in enforcing laws that are not hurting their home country. Basically.. no one who holds power cares, and the power holders are so abstracted away from the voting base that influencing them is next to impossible without enough outcry that it effects the local politicians.
@10:49
Anon is Paragon Shepard.
@11:13
Illusive Man has mysterious source of funding.
@22:40
No, it's clearly Cerberus.
Anonymous
08:22
correct me if im wrong, but anti whaling laws have certain groups which are allowed to whale so long as they don't over whale.
its not like they are attacking endangered species, they are only going after ones that are stable and in plentiful ammounts.
remember whales aren't all blue whales, there are smaller ones that have great numbers.
and japan is one of these places that are internationaly allowed to whale.
>we, as a global society, have an obsession with sushi
A few islands off the coast of China does not a global society make
Besides, tuna tastes like shit, if the Japs want to stuff their faces with the crap they are welcome to it
What happened to fish farming?
Sushi is popular in America as well as Asian countries. Probably Europe as well. Though maybe not Australia, Australia seems to hate japs too much to like sushi. Especially whites in america. They seem to associate eating sushi with being cultured and welloff. After all, sushi is really expensive and as a dish, pretty unique. Its kind of like buying a Prius. Its a sign of being ecologically concerned and a better person.
I know its popular in Asia and America. Don't know how big of a global community that is. But definitely more than just a few islands off the coast of China.
I don't eat seafood, but tuna seems like a shit reason to attack ships...
I'm gonna have to go with the majority and say that its most likely racism (or what they would call "revenge," though their ship totally had it coming...)
yeah sure start the race war and overlook the environment . you politically correct whores
Yes, and I'm pretty sure the North American governments (Canada and United States) are front and center in following the Kyoto pact and the recent Copenhagen environment summit, and they're the prime example for the entire world to follow in helping reduce pollution to curb global warming.. Wait...
We're not as bad as China =(
True, North America's not as bad as China in pollution levels. But people tend to forget that China's pollution is increased due to the factories being built by North American corporations, and products being produced in China for worldwide consumers, especially North Americans. It's easy to turn your heads and point fingers, when in reality everything is linked.
When are the Japanese gonna start firing torpedos at these guys?
Fuck torpedoes; this needs GUNDAM
I can't wait for their next vessel; the Robinboat
Fuck Gundam, this needs America
I guess only Americans themselves think that the rest of the world can't survive without them saving another day (sarcasm)*
Just so you know,
Gundam > America
Yes Gundam > America
ANY super robot / sentai robot / ultraman > America
F*ck America.
All hail Britanian.
What about if they get Gundam Maxter? Then both parties are happy.
Pfft, a couple hundred years ago we raided the (not so) Great Britain.
Don't make me kick your ass medieval style.
Japan should get it's own army already. But the mechas doesn't seem to obey the laws of physics, which make them useless.
the sun never sets on the brit...nevermind
Re 02:20
Hail Britain for what? What do you have besides a couple o' good actors and general hypocritical faggotry?
"Japan should get it's own army already."
For some reason they can't do that. I'm not sure why, maybe it has something to do with WWII, whatever that was.
Would it surprise you to know that Japan was among the top 5 countries around the world in military spending only a few years back? They've dropped a few places since, but still very much within the current top 10.
Gee, I wonder what are the Japanese buying? New uniforms?
I'm pretty sure he was making a Code Geass reference. Britannia is the country that takes over Japan and renames it Eleven
American found!
I see that all comments that tries to hold any reasonable pint of logic and sense gets voted down.
So I say have the countries nuke each other to bits. Why try so hard to come with a solution if you can just get rid of the problem so easily anyway. I mean, with all the nukes combined in the world, there is plenty to destroy the earth few times over.
This is what Japan gets for having a faggots ridden diplomacy; the best international politics are COURAGE; if you don't show COURAGE nobody on the community of nations would respect you.
They need to embrace the American way.
3:19 and yet have no army of their own, whose army is the money going into?
with that answer i feel youll be a little wiser. youre welcome.
7:32 you do realize that they have a "Self Defense Force" with air, naval, and ground branches, right? That's where their defense budget is going. It's much much smaller than, say, the U.S. budget, but then again, they aren't going for world police global power projection. Their budget is still comparable to a number of other countries.
^
You clearly have lost touch with reality, or just very misinformed. Japan supposedly has no standing army but they still has an armed defense force that is couple hundred times more powerful than some so-called "armies" in some third world countries. It's like they have a gun that they are told to not to shoot with. But they can still kill people with it. Germany had something similar going on in WWI, and that did not end well as we have all come to know.
Correct me if I am wrong... but it seems they are AUSTRALIAN NOT AMERICAN...
Then consider yourself corrected. They're American. I think the leader is Canadian, or something.
They only operate out of Australia for a few months of the year because it's the closest port to the Japanese whaling activities.
Hm, nevermind. I was responding to someone way above, but the comment was posted down here. Must have clicked a stray button...
To rid of eco-terrorists that jeopardize the marine economy of our nation and the world;
We are the Celestial Fishes!
Fuck Gundam, this needs Super Sayans.
Fuck Super Saiyans, this needs Japan.
fuck super saiyans, this needs lelouch
No, Fuck you.
we need molotovs!
to throw at sea shepherd/terrorist!
KILL DOLPHIN AND WHALE!
Actually, 01:23 has a good point. The JMSDF can get the help of US Navy SEALs stationed in Japan to get rid of Sea Shepherd's top members. It's probably far more practical than employing Gundams, especially considering the fact that we're dealing with a relatively small group of people that could hide anywhere in the globe.
being in this thread makes me feel i'm in the movie "Idiocracy"..
why gundams? everyone knows Zeon had the superior navy... Jeeg Jion!
why use navy when they have....COLONY!!!
Not sure if they're really anti-Japanese, but they're certainly opportunists.
If they tried this on a Russian or South American ship, they'd be swimming with the fishes in 5 minutes flat.
bro don't you ean 3 minuutes flat O_o
No, they would be turned into chum and used to fish sharks.
^ this :P
dumb ass tree huggers they won't learn until somebody gets killed
Megurine Luka won't be happy if she hears this.
I bet she already heard about this and on her way to call her Kraken friend to attack the Sheperds.
I was annoyed but understanding with the whaling incident, but Tuna is insane. I agree don't get between the Japanese and their Magaro!!!
I agree. With the whales, I was at least sympathetic, however much I disliked the way they were doing it (attention-grubbing whores...), but going after Tuna is just asking for trouble.
They need to chill out, have some sex, and eat some whale meat.
They failed at the whales and decided to go for something smaller...
Though I'm not particularly thrilled about the idea if fishing a critically endangered species, but then again I'd rather eat more tuna than support terrorism.
They aren't critically endangered whatever greens might say. The danger is that stocks will collapse totally leaving nobody with anything commercially viable to fish - not the same thing as the species being "threatened" like a panda or similar.
The Japanese just bomb them already
You go, Sea Shepherd! Save the tuna! Stop those Mediterranean fishermen! If they lose their job and starve on the streets, it's for the greater good!
I told you people that the Sea Shepherd were nothing more than eco-terrorists but you retarded morons keep crying, "Save the whales! Save the whales!"
Now we have thousands of jobs in the tuna fishing industry in Turkey, Spain, Greece, Italy and Malta becoming endangered if these eco-terrorists continue to have their way.
Which is totally comparable to over-fishing entire species to extinction.
Trying to save those tuna is only delaying the inevitable. So let those tuna go extinct already.
It's all very nice to talk about "being a good steward of the planet" and "sustainable development", but how does the human race do that? Most natural animal habitats are being edged out by expanding urban development. Even if nobody hunts tigers, their number is doomed to drop because the area they need to survive is being squeezed ever smaller and their prey are gone. Soon, the only tigers left are those in the zoos and the few wildlife preserves.
To ensure continual survival of a species, thousands are needed so there is sufficient DNA diversity. Once tiger population drop to a few hundreds, the species is doomed to slow extinction. An example is the Tasmanian devil. Lack of DNA diversity is causing the spread of facial tumor cancer on the remaining devils. A vaccine may yet be found before the devils are completely wiped out in another few decades. But who knows if another new disease will send them all back to the edge of extinction?
If those tuna go extinct, then the jobs fishing them are lost as well. Which makes the posting of 01:25 10/02/2010 useless as well.
It's something that seems to be overlooked quite often for some reason. Yes, shrinking fleets will mean loss of jobs, but no more fish means no more jobs at all.
It's the difference between cutting off a foot or hand riddled with gangrene, or letting it consume the entire body.
What would you choose? Life or death.
They apparently don't liek dolphin-safe tuna. What's next for Sea [Wolves]? King Crab? Catfish? Maine/Mass. lobster?
Apparently, they (along with PETA) want us to become vegetarians or cannibals.
id prolly eat a member of Sea Shepherd if it was being served...the rotten bastards
Yes because Human life is infinitely more important than every other species on earth ever.
Hah I hope the fishermen on the tuna boats have guns.. Shoot 'em up!
Actually I recall seeing film of tuna fishermen shooting the fish with a small rifle so they could more easily get them out of the water.
Don't they dare touch my tuna
Those nihonjin are a bunch of retards! If they continue to pillage the seas, what their children gonna eat tomorrow? Some reclycled shits?
NO U!
01:28 F-YOU dont touch my tuna! eat grass if you like.
STFU eco-fag
Hey, your grandfather don't eat the shit you eat nowadays anyway. It's called progress. I'll bet when all the tunas are gone, we'll be able to grow them in a tube artificially for 1$ each anyway.
So sit back.. relax.. because your kid will not be as dumb as you are..
"Those nihonjin are a bunch of retards! If they continue to pillage the seas, what their children gonna eat tomorrow? Some reclycled shits?"
Introducing Soylent Green.
save the whales (and tuna.) Eat a human :)
Rise fishermen of the Rising Sun!
Defend your fishes!
Protect your vessels!
Defeat the terrorist!
MAGURO BANZAI~!!!
I'm not against fishing by any means, but one thing is fishing and a very different one is raping the ocean. As a seafood lover, I do not want a future where the oceans are just wet deserts and all fish comes from fisheries (blergh). It is very retarded and shortsighted to catch over the reasonable quotas, and Japans loves doing exactly that. I also happen to live at the Mediterranean so this is doubly infuriating. Thumbs down for Japan in this matter, and fuck those 2ch guys saying this is racism.
If there's overfishing of bluefin tuna, it's done by your very own Mediterranean fishermen. Japan is only buying over 80% of the world's catch in bluefin tuna, there's no need for it to send fishing boats across half the world.
Oh I know. But we are both at fault here, the ones that fish(us) and the ones buying the fish (not the final consumer, they hardly know anything about this). All companies from all countries should respect regulations (and these should be harsher). It's idiotic to destroy tuna and many other species forever, specially considering how tasty and healthy they are. Nobody is asking them to stop, they just need to slow down and use low impact techniques. That'd drive the prices up, but it's infinitely better if you think long term (not to be expected from greedy companies obviously).
If you'd have a cow, would you milk it at a pace where it can recover itself to produce more milk for years, or would you milk it dry nonstop until it dies from exhaustion in a couple weeks? well, the sea is just like that cow, believe it or not.
yep yep. I know I love my tuna and definitely support against over-fishing. me no want a future where there will be no tuna from the sea.
f the future. i eat now; care later! :>
I think I'll start an organization that stops eco-terrorist groups like Sea Shepherd.
Save the fishermen!
Perfect. You will need lots of mobility to combat their fancy ships, so you should probably go with a helicopter. Naturally, you already have a good name for your organization since you are going after the Sea Shepherd.
...
Air Wolf
*insert intro music*
Nice reference to retro TV!
I'd like to volunteer my services as pimp slapper extraordinaire. Lord knows the women on those boats need some sense smacked into them.
It's not mentioned but there is an explanation for that. Too many tunas are being caught for the stock to survive so we either have to reduce fishing or see tuna disappear forever.
Exactly. If you love tuna, you should be against Japan doing this.
I don't give a fuck about some company profit margins, I just want to eat tuna till the day I die, even if that means pricier tuna. And maybe eating different kinds of fish too, instead of those getting nuked as collateral by aggresive tuna mass fishing techniques.
okay i cna understand the whole whaling thing but tuna that just proves there after the japanese...
i wonder why we stopped with hiroshima.
I wonder why your parents didn't use contraception.
you didn't. you continued on to nagasaki 3 days later
Learn2History fag.
you destroy japan? you destroy 2D girls (with quality)!!!
die tuna and 3D girls, 2D girls are far more important.
In those comments most of the japanese think Sea Shepherd is only annoying them. Thats wrong though, they also annoy Iceland with that damn boat. We are hunting whales after all (and sell some of them to japan actually)
I guess I just don't fully understand international law (laws in international waters) and fishing edict. For me, if I were being terrorized by these guys; as in, they were attacking my boat with rope or water cannon/ other physical contact, I would sound a warning (audio), then a warning shot in the air (gun), then a warning shot near their boat. If they still persist after the third warning I would open fire on their boat. If they complain it would have to be to my government and the UN, which in both instances I would assert their provocation erupted first when they began terrorizing and my three warnings. I don't see how they can legally be able to do this with no recourse.
You'd be guilty in using an unwarranted amount of force. They were being annoying. You used deadly force. The general public will not side with you because you instantly become the bad guy by attacking an unarmed force. The reason they get away with their actions is because they aren't actively trying to blow up or kill people.
Think of it this way. "He splashed me with water, so I shot him!" Now you're guilty of murder or attempted murder. Congratulations.
What about when they try to break the propellers of the whaling ships in the frigid waters, far, far, from port? Pretty sure stranding ships in the middle of the ocean would count as aggressive enough to respond by disabling their boat as well.
It's still not enough to warrant deadly force. Rescue ships and helicopters can be deployed. Resurrections cannot.
" A giant whale from nowhere suddenly came out and shallow the SS ships, leaving all missing...i feel sad for them...no, i din't shoot them."
@Anon 07:52
The "stranding" aspect is one reason why horse thievery was a hanging offense in the old West (U.S. history).
Read the investigation reports of any modern maritime- air- or railroad-disaster, and you will see a pattern: it's not any single thing that led to the disaster, it's a series of little things, combined.
Cellphones, GPS, rescue ships, and helicopters do not guarantee safety or rescue.
"I borrowed the cigarette lighter out of the survival kit so I could prepare my recreational drugs. I was going to put it back, but I accidently dropped it somewhere. I wouldn't have done it if I knew we were going to be stranded."
"We rammed the stern of your ship to break your props and accidently broke off a rivet which shot across the compartment and severed the signal lines to the bilge-water level detector and then water leaked in slowly, but you didn't know it and your ship sunk killing three crewmembers... but it was an accident, I swear!"
Shoot. Those. Fuckers.
"Just a bunch of racists."
-that said a Japanese ??
02:20
who said japanese? wtf are you talking about?
they got a death wish? Are they hoping someone will blow them up?..
Yes, kinda, getting blown up would be good PR, loads of media attention and raised sympathies.
Not that I really like either side, greedy fishermen completely fucking up the oceans on one side and moronic pussy environment-terrorists on the other... Blow them all to bits for all I care...
Every one we must eat tuna products just to give them the slap in the face they deserve also its tasty
Just a bunch of racists.
-By anonymous Japanese
--------------------------
I lol'd
they are just all talk and no meaningful action... Try attacking american ships if they dare. They will be shot down by jets.
They'd just get arrested, actually.
I'm not japanese, I'm italian, but I can understand that these people have become very annoying! Why the hell now people can't even fish tuna? Anyway, just ignore them and go on fishing and, in case, just destroy their vessels once again.
OT: By the way, also ignore the retards who try to stop you from making hentai, because the rest of the world depends on you for this!
I think very few people have had the plasue of meeting these guys in person. As someone who lives in Newfoundland, I had a breif interaction with them while they were bailing out their friends (With pennies no less).
I gotta say, they are portrayed as slight wackjobs on TV, but its NOWHERE near what they are really like. They are attention whores, may it be on bars or on the street, they will do anything to get someone to pay them attention.
They are like a bunch of grown ass men acting like children. Its pathetic I think, and I know that if the media would just stop paying attention to them they would go off and find something else to do.
Why do people keep attacking Japan?! First Equality Now, now Sea faggots.
Japan oughta legalize eco-terrorist headhunting. Better yet make it a reality-based show
*imagines that bumper car battles in Takeshi's Castle
"it intends to attack boats"
"the group continues to assert its recently lost vessel was rammed by whalers in an act of piratical terrorism, and brags of having $7,000,000 with which to make good its losses and attack the Mediterranean tuna fishing industry."
They intend to attack boats just like they were attacked, I hope more do.
Maguro? So are they targeting on sexually inactive girls too..?
The Blue fin tuna is becoming an endangered animal so there should be regulations on the fishing of them, not that it would do much. But everyone seems to be getting in a huff saying that they are going to loads of people unemployed, that won't happen since the majority of tuna on market isn't blue fin
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6096010
Maguro Tabetai♪
terrorism is just about as affective as protesting nowadays
instead of wasting their money on crappy batman-wannabe bouts, they should just bribe politicians
that almost always works
These god dammed hippies, they fail at one thing then go for another. I swear the baby boomers ruined this world. What ever happened to the ideals of the good old 1940s?
And some people still eat the bullshit terrorist organizations like Sea Shepherd is selling.
Look people, if ever Northern Bluefin Tuna gets close to extinction, those japanese fishing companies will be the first to take action against that. Same as whales. It's their life, it's how they make money.
The thing about eco morons like Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd is that they make a living on idiots who believe their crap.
It's like a cult or religion. You pay them or give them support because they supposedly will save x or y species, and from time to time they do (or pretend to do) some spectacular action to show they are doing their job. Most of the times, it's some idiotic action that changes nothing... like taking a boat and follow one ship from the over 50 fleet of fishing ships... and they can't even stop the one they are following. It's REALLY only for show.
But most of the time all the idiotic green flock is paying for them to sit on their asses, paying for their vacation at this or that country, having some fun on boat trips or whatever.
If someone is really gonna save whales, tuna, or whatever endangered species it's gonna be the big industries that makes a profit from them.
This is just the world we live in. Same is true to most things the human race is helping destroy.
The only way to stop japanese ships from fishing tuna is to make japanese (and other people all over the world) stop eating it. As long as there's a demand for it, a Sea Shephard ship is as bothersome as a fly while you're eating your lunch. Maybe even less than that.
i like your view and thats so true.
LOL at "those japanese fishing companies will be the first to take action against that. Same as whales. It's their life, it's how they make money.".
If i owned one of those companies, i'd just fish those species until they became uneconomical. Then when no money could be made on fishing, i'd just fire everyone, sell the ships and move on to make money on something else.
"Sea Shepard."
"Sea Wrex."
Even more confirmation that the pricks of the Sea Shepherd are simply anti-japanese rather than pro-eco
The Japanese talking about being racist?
Oh sweet irony.
Tough luck, Japan. You need a better PR to tackle this, or else you will become part of the Axis of Evil.
hey, wait, they were a part of the Axis of Evil...?
I hope they get rammed again.
Honestly as long as whay they do is againt fishing groups that catch anything endangered in large numbers
The people can complain as much as they want for all i care
Stability>>> more important than what you get to eat tomorrow evening when you got so many other options
Still singling out is bad, but hardly surprising if they don't get any insurance money for there 2 earlier ships.
Honestly are the news just misinformed or were the Japanese whaling ships seriously in the antarctic regions?
It has nothing to do down there so far away
Humanity and it's egoism and stupidity is as endless as ever
"Nobody cares about whalemeat, but don’t get between the Japanese and their tuna!"
QFT
Stopping whaling is one thing, whales are evolved and we don't eat them much anyway, but tuna? Come on! We're not the only whalers, instead of bugging us about @%#$ing tuna go stop the other whaling countries!
I love this!!!
Have to send them some donations, help them out.
Our oceans are being fished to collapse. We are going to lose a lot of species and it'll take far longer for even the hardy species to recover than it would if right now mankind slapped some reasonable limits and measures on international fishing.
An "Anon" upthread said that the companies would do everything to preserve what their profit base is from, the whales, the fish. That is a bold faced LIE that even the big companies don't use anymore, they just rely on the toadies and RandDroids to rave it for them. A "Corporation" is an entity created to avoid responsibility. It exists for the "Fiscal Quarter" and it's only legal responsibility is to make money for it's investors while it's owners/executives only agenda is to make money for themselves. What they'll do, as they do with lumber, or stuff they mine, is exploit more and more and more, then as they deplete the resource the price goes up, causing more aggressive taking of said resource. When the resource runs out, they run like bunnies at a fursuit lifestyler convention leaving the people who made careers out of helping them in the dust. They've made their money, and can move elsewhere to exploit another resource or retire in gross luxury even in a destroyed economy, they don't have to care the damage they did to nature or the suffering they caused their fellow man.
Like the Piracy in Somalia?
That's the fruit of "Drift Net Economics". Taking advantage of the country's political chaos, big companies moved drift net trawlers in and destroyed their fishing base. They then dumped toxic waste off their coast. Remember the "Ship of Death" from the late 80s/early 90s environmental awareness surge? The locals couldn't catch enough to feed themselves, much less sell. The drift nets destroyed the ecosystem. Now, btw, it is possible to fish there again, but the pirates keep away the trawlers who are ready to sweep in.
The oceans are NOT invulnerable. And the cost of taking necessary measures to preserve them now is nothing compared to the cost of re-building some of what was lost later.
Get out of here you dirty red.
As much as I want to jump in to bash efforts to stop fishing like this, this man has a point.
Sea Shepherd is certainly pure fail, but if the tuna really were fished into extinction, how could we eat tuna? So... it should be regulated, but Sea Shepherd should definitely be destroyed.
I think it's unlikely Tuna itself would be fished to 'extinction' but many, many other fish would be. And the lack of the fish, along with the ecosystem disruption, would make it so that there was very few Tuna left for a very very long time, along with anything other than Algae and Jellyfish. They don't reproduce that fast, they are predators, so a tiny population will take a very long time to restore itself to the massive growing population the oceans used to have. There are a few conservationists, even in Japan, holding some in tanks to study them, so if they did collapse in the wild they could be re-seeded, but the companies would run like mad, not help in any way. And there'd be lots of desperate, starving fishermen who only had the ships they stole to become pirates with and an international market that makes rare fish a prize catch...
Algae and Jellyfish could gain a strong foothold in the oceans, esp the latter with the worse depletion of shark.
What should be done is a quick push-back of fish allowed to be harvested, with strict enforcement. Then, after a reasonable 'breathing room' moratorium, strict but reasonable limits on harvesting. Anyone doesn't like what they can catch, what's available on the open market, they can get space off an island -or in my case build a seastead- and have an 'aquaculture net' where they raise their own fish, eat some, and sell the rest.
I'm all for eating fish. I just want to make sure I and mankind always have fish to eat. Hot Chinese lady I knew showed me all kinds of fancy recipies. It's simply math that it's a lot easier to solve the problem (possible destruction of majority of aqua ecosystem) by preventing it than by trying to repair some of the damage later.
Do any of you know why there's a cost for a "Fishing License" and a daily limit of fish caught in USA rivers and lakes? Because the government has to re-grow and artificially replenish the stock of fish. The cost is more or less 'at cost' of the fish to artificially replenish what mankind had depleted to near extinction.
I really hope we can turn things around.
But, really, we could have a situation where somebody wants "Shark Fin Soup" but finds it's easier to go on an "Underage Sex Tour", far less expensive and risky due to shark being 'nearly extinct in the wild', he's looking at tens of thousands of dollars. So he then buys a few tiny, sickly sharks from a trafficker for a couple thousand, and he sets up some huge tanks to raise the thing for years on meat scraps so he can have it just once. Then when he's just about to have a feast, the UN and Fish and Wildlife department break in. One of his "friends" 'ratted' him since there was a $10K bounty, but they don't really care about arresting him, just taking the sharks back because they are now "Extinct in the wild" and they need them to help get rid of the Jellyfish choking the oceans and preventing the 'seed' fisheries from recovering. So the sharks go in a tank, and the Marshall is being a generous guy (jails are full anyways) and gives him some papers to file for some tax relief as an 'environmental hero' for his costs raising Jaws Jr...
consider me bought. Now all I need is a hot chinese lady.. can I borrow yours?
Tried Kuromaguro in the States. It's far more expensive if you don't live near the coasts (Atlantic/Pacific fish), and even then so it costs around $30 for just a couple sashimi slices (I got a 50% discount ^^). A whole fish can go for $50,000 - $150,000. Australians love the stuff too, and it looks like the prices will go up worldwide as European countries look to ban fishing it starting this year for a couple of years so the stocks can recover.
Still, the actions of these eco-terrorists are wrong. That's why they've been banned from the IWC meetings. I wonder how long Australia will give them support especially since the country seems to be the most environmentally sensitive bunch of hypocrites.
Independent of what you think about the acts of these eco-terrorists, the point where it all goes bad is when due to the acts of these people, people start not caring about nature anymore.
Please, people (especially japanese ones). Just because there are stupid people who protect nature, doesn't mean their cause isn't right! (the means might not be, of course).
Who the fuck gave Japan permission to fish in the Mediterranean in the first place?
I doubt that Italy goes to fish around Japan...
I don't think it's fair for one nation to take so much fish from international waters...
I agreed japanese should stay on the japanese waters. I hope the EU shots some japanese boats with the pretext of saving fishies :P
who says japan goes there to fish? did you even read the article?
There's this thing called global trade. Some guy in the Mediterranean catches the tuna and the tuna gets sold to the Japanese.
FUCKING TUNA FISH ARE NOT ENDANGERED.
Fine i get why they try to stop whales - they're big and have no predators so let them roam the seas forever without fear. FINE whatever.
But if they cut off my supply of StarKist Brand Tuna Snackfoods i'm gonna fucking shoot Bob Barker - The Price is right old Fart who gave sea Shepard 5 million for that Un-stealth boat of his.
Also if i see this SEA-Fag guy stopping only we Slit Eyed ching chonganese fisherman but leave French-fags, German-Nazi boats, and Fat Oily Greek Boats alone then i'll be more pissed than i am now.
There are over a dozen species of tuna just from the top of my head.
The canned tuna you love so much is in no danger of overfishing but Bluefin is the rarest and current fishing levels unsustainable.
Sea Shepherd is still a retard for trying violent tactics when the multi-national Bluefin fleet far outnumbers them and only a small fraction could possibly feel their annoyance.
So they were just an anti-Japanese group after all.
Just a bunch of racists.
Why don’t they take a look at their own abattoirs…
Do something about these terrorists.
Not too many Japanese can seem to remember The rape of Nanjing or the taking of Manchuria let me tell you that this stain will remain on the Japanese nation for a very long time,there are still places in my homeland where Japanese people are not welcome,I do not think time can ever eraze cruel acts,such as happened to my people,just ordinary citizens NOT soldiers and no amount of ommission from school or history books will ever make things any better,Chinese and Japanese are vitually the same ethnic group and yet you have no pity no remorse,no shame,So do not talk of whales and Tuna,When your own shame is not yet forgiven,Also do not mention the (A) bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki You were given the option to surrender,Think again of Pearl harbour,So Japan before your polite bowing and grovelling think of your past acts,and appologise to your children grand children and the victims of your cruelty.
What does world war II have to do with Tuna dumbass, are you a fenqing or something?
I love it when people claim racism, this isn't about racism at all, Sea Shepherd are a bunch of retards, hating on the japanese for fishing is the new hot topic.
The whaling isn't right, the japanese are full of crap saying it's research, yeah bullshit.
Eco-terrorism is never the way to go, especially towards the japanese because you'll be labeled racists, then again i'll never take anything 2ch says seriously, because racists are the last thing the japanese are huh?
I'm so sick of hearing xenophobia being thrown around, after a while it stops being xenophobia and is just pure racism.
It's interesting because one of the most vocal groups in japan are the otaku, and they frequently call us racist when a lot of otaku here treat them like gods, the elder people are usually the most racist, and the rest of the world couldn't care less about the japanese.
Yet japan seems to be filled with hate towards any other race, I'm sure not all of them do, and I wish those people were the more vocal people rather than the idiots at 2ch.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/13/jap-race-hate-killer-murders-filipino-by-mistake/
You see their extremes, they see yours. That is the way internet works. You call them racists, they your your people the same. Content which raise issues attract a cesspool of filth and to automatically assume that they constitute characteristics of a group people is something only a moron would do.
I can't wait until japan vacuums it all up and starves, win win. no whales nor shinks to worry about.
realise that the world outside japan support these guys, not all but most. that means: that japan is the bad guys, hear hear, the shock
With what rifles? Most rifle projectiles breaks within a feet when fired at water... unless they use some kinda harpoon gun or APS(russian frogman underwater rifle) , or maybe the fish is at the point where they are touching the water surface...
Anyway, I doubt modern fishermen have guns... afterall, shooting fish with firearms and use of explosives is illegal unless its a harpoon gun and they got permits for it.
They were shooting them in the head when they were pulling them out of the water at the stern of their boat, the range was only a few metres and the fish were hooked and at the surface.
Sea sheperd are eco-terrorists, and deserve no support.
However, one cannot deny that bluefin tuna is a vulnerable and extremely overfished fish.
It grows and matures rather slowly.
At my coast, they have completely disappeared by overfishing.
catching them when they band together in their spawing grounds didn't help much either.
But to those who deny it, it is not just three-huggers, or whale-huggers saying it. All the scientists say it. I even remember reading it in a japanese (eng. version) pro-whaling article once.
In this case, the numbers and absence at certain coasts speaks for itself.
Shepard just wants tuna for his fish tank.
The US should just figure out a way to farm these tuna and sell them to Japan at a nice price. That should help with the trade gap.
Japan has figured it out for the Pacific Bluefin since 2007. The fish in question here are Atlantic Bluefin which have some difficulty being reared in captivity and is also the most threatened by overfishing.
There seems to be a small misunderstanding about the tuna in question here.
Canned tuna consumed in many countries around the world are made from Yellowfin or Albacore tuna. Those populations are quite stable and sustainable at present.
Bluefin tuna is the slowest growing and breeding of all tuna species and they are indeed a threatened species.
Sea Shepherd may be assholes, but even the broken clock is right twice a day.
Japan and most asian countries often show no regard for conservation and sustainability when it gets between them and their delicacies, ie sharkfin.
If whale is plenty I maybe even I made it Sushi by myself. But Tuna.. what a sentimentalist out there..
whats the big deal with fishing? their animals. you know, FOOD.
wow.
sea shepard trying to save the whales, everyone here goes completely apeshit.
sea shepard and this freakin ridiculous notion of saving tuna, everyone here contemplates if tuna should be protected to a certain degree.
japan govt spends $5 million a year trying to encouraging people to eat whale. why? because the demand for what is that low.
that's just fucking stupid waste of money.
they couldnt take on the bigger boats so they're aiming for smaller ones =p
HEATERS GON' HATE
When I hear "Save the Whales" I think, "Yeah, we need to save them. When I hear "Save the Tuna" I think "Yeah, I might want a sandwich later".
Too bad, you can't make a sandwich because guess what, the Japanese made tuna extinct!
Well, the tuna you use for sandwiches is not endangered (the endangered one is the pricier bluefin tuna), but you get the point.
Bluefin tuna has a rating of CR (critically endangered) by the IUCN, which means "extremely high risk of extinction in the wild", which is only 1 step away from extinct.
Yeah, making delicious fish disappear forever from Earth is not a big deal!
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I think several AA-12s with HE rounds are in order
I don't eat seafood and I think environmentalists are extremist lunatics. However, I do not like to see ANY species hunted to extinction! We do have a responsibility to take care not to abuse our resources. (that does NOT mean to not use them at all, however)
At the same time I wouldn't blame Japan for arming their fishing fleets with freakin' cannons and blowing those retards out of the water at this point. Attacking fishing boats will not solve the problem. I say f*%^ Sea Shepherd. Sink'em all and then enjoy a tuna fish sandwich as you watch them sink. Self righteous p#!$%&.
Propaganda buster (aka. Texas Oyaji) about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKdKs20Aagw
I smell monetary reasons for it.