The father and grandfather of a 16-year-old girl face murder charges for burying the girl alive, as they objected to her associating with boys and decided to slay her in a so-called “honour killing.”
Police in south-eastern Turkey received a tip-off that a family council was behind the disappearance of a local girl, and found her body buried in a 2m deep hole under a chicken enclosure, sitting with her hands tied. She had been missing since December.
Autopsy reports say the girl was alive when she was committed to the earth, as she was found to have significant amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, and stress that she was fully conscious:
“The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried.”
Police arrested both father and grandfather on suspicion of murder.
The father told police he was unhappy that his daughter had male friends. The girl had previously complained to police that her grandfather had beat her for just this reason.
“Honour killings,” usually male relatives murdering daughters or sisters for what they consider to be improper dress, marriage or sexual behaviour, are common in many Islamic nations and amongst some Islamic immigrant populations elsewhere.
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I don't agree with this, I'd more suggest a "Shotgun Wedding" for any foolin-
In AmeriKKKa, back when it was "America", esp. in the "Western" parts they had semi-arranged marriages and this would also include the "Encouraged" wedding. When they saw kids who were growin had the hots for each other, their parents would talk and usually arrange something, or if they were sure it wouldn't work out, strongly discourage it by moving one of them away. The thing they were really afraid of was having a "Bastard" in the family, a child born out of wedlock, so that led to quick weddings of the name. It'd be a private scandal on how soon after a couple was married the lady dropped her kid, but no real shame, versus the "Bastard" label that made someone untouchable and did hurt their family.
There was a popular circuit judge who did weddings and had a character later judges tried to imitate for years. He'd have a wedding and he'd get paid as often is whisky as money, and he'd go "Ok... I now pronounce you Man and Wife and may God Almighty have mercy on your eternal souls!"
Anyways, though these "Islam is sexist!" posts here are amusing, I'm worried there's too much on Islam, which suggests some kind of bias or hate mongering. The "Good Christians" do plenty in this day and age also. How about the "Lil brown collection from Hati?" Where they are trying to smuggle kids to 'resuce' them but as more and more comes out, something else might be going on... Or the Christians who used a speedboat to deliver solar powered electronic bibles right after the quake? (no food or medicine, they filled it with talking bibles, I guess to turn them from Voodoo and their "Pact with Satan" according to Robertson...) And almost every year there's a neurotic "Carrie" wanna-be that has a baby then thinks it's "Lucifer" and burns it in the oven...
If you can source these kinds of stories you should submit them as tips - we'd be grateful.
Where DO you submit them, then? Maybe I've been looking in the wrong place, but a time or two I tried to find where to send a note about this or that...?
Be appreciative if you'd show me:-)
There's an email link at the top of the about page.
LOL AMERIKKKA U SO CLEVA
No really kill yourself.
Oi dont discrimination all islam people like that
my father is a muslim
but he doesnt burried my sister because she had a boy friend
islam a religion supposedly of peace...
thousand year old scriptures that dictate how one lives one' life... the original texts may not have intended the such interpretation...
but such is a work of literature, and it will be interpreted regardless....
women getting killed for honor may or may not have been originally in those ancient scriptures...but so long as it is something that can be interepreted then it's intent, purpose and meaning can be corrupted and twisted in any form the interpreter deem correct...
if there is no absolute word that such scriptures should be regarded in a certain way, even if one interprets that killing your daughter for honor is incorrect, well your interpretation is just part of the countless other interpretations that are deemed correct buy their interpretors...
if the scriptures didn't exist there wouldn't be a misinterpretation of it's text and thus no reason for that girl to suffer and die horribly..
as is the nature of humans to interpet..
Islame strikes again
And yet they feel that atheism and support of Evolution is immoral. HAHAHAHA! Are they on crack?!
Really now, could it not be he simply wanted to kill someone who could not fight back, and blame it all on his upbringing and religion?
Its only fitting if he is buried alive himself, to accompany his daughter.
But it still does not solve the problem: rotten hearts of people.
All who are bashing religions in here probably don't know don't care about a religion called Buddhism...
Well we can't nag on Buddhism since they haven't really done so much. Though I think they actually said that violent games are good for relaxing. huh...the jury is yours Mr. Thompson.
this is why religion is poisonous. comes priority to other human rights and all.
Well, catholic did these kinda things to in the medieval age too.
fuck, can't believe there are so many people who still believe in purity of religions without political concerns.
*facepalm*
Kemal Ataturk must be turning on his grave due the direction Turkey is going at the present.
If he couldn't turn Turkey away from this path it seems unlikely anyone could.
And of course, SC finds it somehow pertinent to the story at hand to mention in the very last sentence the fact that Turkey is a largely Islamic nation.
A+ for astounding bigotry, Sankaku.
"some Islamic immigrant populations elsewhere"
He said immigrant douche.
"'Honor killings,' ... are common in many Islamic nations and amongst some Islamic immigrant populations elsewhere."
If you're gonna quote, quote in context. ;)
WTF?! They should know that they'll never go to heaven for murdering someone...
in the name of honor they'll go to hell
I'm a person who enjoys black humor, but this... What a horrible, horrible way to go. Buried alive, in a slow and painful death. Good job you crazy religious douchebags, next time do the world a favor and let someone else bury you along.
Will someone e-mail this story to Equality Now? They need something to do....
Islamist Idiots....
do you realise that turkey is Secular country, hell they even forbid women using hijab.
So he wanted his daughter to swing the other way? Wut?
no he tried to dig her way into the other hemisphere where her behaviour would be accepted but he got tired and stopped digging halfway
You know... there are times when "an eye for an eye" is appropriate. Let's put these guys in a shallow grave and see how they enjoy breathing soil.
Only in Islam.....
How do they even get off springs when they get killed for even talking to the opposite gender?
easy, they do it within the family.
It appears that the killers wanted her to be a yuri. *joke*
Seriously, I think the problem is stupidity and/or laziness, in that the murderers never questioned what they were told, or what they read.
I don't mean questioned as in, "I won't believe in God/Allah unless you can prove to me He exists."
I mean questioned as in, "Does this seem reasonable? Does it seem fair? If not, I won't go along with it."
When I was a child, my grandfather told me he had thirteen fingers, and could "count" them in a way which would result in this total, but I didn't believe him. (He was straight-facedly joking with me.)
The Weekly World News reports Elvis' ghost having hot gray-man alien sex, or whatever, but I don't believe that either.
Stupid and lazy people just don't question.
Or, these murderers might simply be Evil Bastards(TM) on a power trip, using the Qu'ran as an excuse.
As if honour killings weren't bad enough already, now they have to murder their daughters in the most gruesome fashion possible for the most absurdly trivial of reasons.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Islam should be wiped out. I don't give a fuck about the moderates and innocents; any religion that can inspire these monsters needs to be destroyed. Now.
I agree, medieval traditions should be erased from todays societies.
They go on about abortion being wrong yet they do nothing about these "honour killings".
The leaders of these religions don't even condemn them, makes you think that even these leaders are just as bad.
Hahaha, and to think that Turkey wants to be considered part of Europe. They're considered to be in the middle east because of shit like this.
Another one bites the dust.
I was surprised and have WHAT THE FUCK LOOK ON MY FACE when i read this article, but when I clicked on the link and read on i then notice ISLAM....then I was like ....."ooh" >_>....nothing new here, just a bunch of fucked up Islams doing their fucked up thing, because according to their fucked up religion all this fucked up shits is the way to go. and by doing all these crap when they die they will get 72 virgins in when they reach their Islam's heaven.
I like how again I didnt even need to read much more than the first lines just till the "honorkilling" to know it was related to some muslim family and how again the apologist claim over and over its not caused by the Islam and the habits it causes.
Australia, China, Islam and North Korea should get be nuked.
you forgot about nuking america and Europe in there too.
actually we should eliminate 80 percent of the human race.
Nono.... You should only retain "civilized people" like otakus, professionals, career people and politicians.....
Kill all rebels, egoistic head of states and muslims....
Ohhhh the Islamic culture....
Man people sure are dumb. I'm not talking about the two men, but the people who post comments here.
Religion doesn't teach this. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Budhists, they all do this (honor killing) too. Just go visit the arab countries or the indian subcontinent.
It's not religion, it' culture that teaches this.
I've never heard of a Buddhist or Christian in modern times doing this. Just admit it, Islam is a hateful intollerant religion that refuses to intergrate. You can't have religious equality, if one religion doesn't see other human beings as their equals.
The reason why you can't lump Islam, into the same category as other religions. Is that Muslims are taught to believe that the Quran is perfect and that peaceful verses that contradict the violent ones, are not relevant. If a religions main teachings are to take the holy text completely literally, there is going to be extremism, this is why Islam as a religion is extreme.
Islam only has one prophet aswell, giving him free reign to demand a specific way in which to follow Islam.
No, it is NOT a hateful intolerant religion, at least no more than Christianity, Judaism, etc. are..... and yes, I HAVE heard of Christian fathers killing their daughters for this over here in the United States.... it's not well publicized since it puts the old 'black light' on the whole of Christianity and exposes what IDIOTS they are and they don't want nor allow that.
again a anonymous dumbass who knows shit. dumb people are not muslims, that cant be (like expelling from religion)
the teaching is, kill one innocent life, you kill the whole mankind" but those murderer family does not know. still turkey has laws against this. and when they die, they burn in hellfire (from religious view). life is not that simple.
Simple to kill somebody, yes, but hard to face the prosecution
i like how all of you faggots like to give a label for everything like "religion" is the cause of ignorant people everywhere. or how so-and-so is the cause of whatever.
look lets keep it real, and simple.
humanity as an entirety whether good or bad is neither remarkable or astonishing. for everything good there is something just as terrible. with the shit i have gone on to read in this article, it only affirms to me that if something where to destroy this shitty blue speck of dust in this endless sea of void, i would not miss it. and if the entire world were in a dire situation, i would laugh at the cries of suffering and torment as doom lay upon us all.
you all get emotional when hearing about the unusual death of an individual, scrambling to shit out your opinion like some kind of festering pig with a stomach parasite, before stopping to realize that no matter how you die, it does not matter what you do in life, you will all end the same way. whether you're some piss soaked homeless man who has not had a home for 20 years, a rich fat slob who could care less about the world, or perhaps one who cares and readily assists the needy at any moment. in the end it all amounts to nothing, because no hard work or suffering matters at the hands of death, you will experience the exact same thing as anyone else.
that being said, above all i really want to believe in humanity. because i know for everything atrocious we can commit, we all have the potential to do something just as miraculous.
This is totally sick and i pity that girl...R.I.P.
Wow the muslims there are hardcore too
Richard Gere's movie "Unfaitfful" = topic of this article.!!!
I dont get how an islamic country continues to grow in population when they kill their women over the smallest thing.
In countries where women have no rights and are seen as lesser beings rape is common
Buried alive... You can feel your guts tighten at prospect.
Islam blah blah honour killings blah blah Islam blah blah eroge blah blah etc etc
Last post I was curious, but now I'm dying to know - Is it for extra hits? Or is it because the comments sections for these articles are so much longer and more involved than ones about... *scrolls down Recent News for some example names* ...Haruhi and Miku?
There must be something deeper going on, not just because the subject matter almost always seems to read like a synopsis for the average hentai?
I wouldn't go so far as to look for an alternative site to serve my idol needs, but I'm beginning to just bookmark the galleries (chubby idol gallery's my favourite) so as to skip past these pretend 'news' articles which really just ruin the mood.
I'd love it if it all turned out to be one big sociological experiment - how responses to certain topics (i.e. naughty Islam stuff) alter when said topics are sandwiched between ero-thingummies and idol galleries - but something tells me that's not the case.
Either that or it's just because the news posts on here centre around sex and rape, and all that happens in the Muslim world today is rape and forced marriages (and now burying kids alive), depending on who you listen to. If so, then I guess that's just fine!
But I do think a name change is in order - Shikaku Complex, perhaps?
Back on topic:
Sorry, I've got nothing. Down with Turks, perhaps? No? Muslims are shit?
Back to the chubby idol gallery, then...
Is it really so hard to comprehend a site offering multi-dimensional coverage to suit the multi-dimensional tastes of its users?
If you're only interested in tawdry idols then by all means ignore anything else. Plenty ignore the idols - I do myself. Others just want bizarre news, or acerbic game coverage. But this site is aimed at a broader audience than any single subset of users. Bleating about it just affirms your lack of understanding of the site.
I think he is right, Artefact. In fact, I think he is entitled to a full refund. You should really return all the $0.00 he is paying you to view the articles here.
I'll do better than that - I'll grant him unlimited access, in perpetuity!
Multi-dimensional coverage? Hardly. Mention the ongoing genocide of the Hmong people in Laos and Vietnam, if you think you're so multi-dimensional. Mention the nuanced racism that's steadily increasing in today's American automobile industry and how it's reflecting the same xenophobic attitudes of the early 80s recession, if you're so multi-dimensional.
Every fifth "article" here is about how Person A maltreated Person B, and how that figures into Islam being shit. No, I don't think "multi-dimensional" is the right word here.
At least have the humility to admit that "pandering to a common bias" is a more apt description of what you're doing.
Nobody cares about those things. Honestly they sound like some tedious leftist cause celebre you dug out because you regard any critical discussion of Islam as somehow being an expression of racism.
People care about China and Islam, they are the two great threads of (not unjustified) paranoia felt in the western world. It is only natural people would want to read about them, and only natural we would respond to that.
And if people are biased against cultures which oversee the murder and mutilation of relatively innocent girls, it is with good reason.
Nice religiocentric shit-throwing here.
''COMMON in many Islamic nations and amongst some Islamic immigrant populations elsewhere''
Man...the nerve to flat out lie and think people will buy it. Not that it's not working. There are tons of idiots on the interwebz that would happily believe this. And Artefact loves touching himself at night while knowing this.
The UN itself cites Turkey amongst a number of other predominantly Islamic nations as places where honour killings are regarded as a serious problem.
Yes I'm aware of that. I was implying more to the case of you connecting honour killings to burying people alive. As in honour killing = burying people alive. Even if that wasn't you intention it's still a kind of a stretch to call it ''common''. People eating fast-food, that's common. This? Sure, it happens. But common?
"more common" should be used
That's it, who here says muslims are as normal as everyone esle? Yes, some are, but the sheer density of madness amongst them pretty much proves that as a nation, it's a fucked up mess of stupidity, unbelivable moronistic dubshitness and out of this world retarded thinking.
If I'm wrong, than this article is a bullshit lie, which I think it's not.
At least cops actually arrested them, that's something to look up to. Man, wish I lived there and had a parents like that. They would regret they brought me to this world.
Hey, if I had a sister and my parents tried to do this to her.... THEY WOULD BE DEAD FIRST, to be totally blunt on the subject.
all anons are cancer to our minds
Why am I not surprised to read more idiots' comments here.
Turkey is not an Islamic country. It is a secular country with the non Muslims in power. The women are not allowed to wear the hijab in any government buildings or schools.
Islamic country would be one that rules by the Islamic law (shariah), which there are none. There are some who claim to but they do not. If Turkey was one then these men would get the death penalty for murder, there are no stupid jail sentences in Islam, you get the punishment right away (and it's usually the same as your crime...).
You must have missed the part where an openly Islamist party took control of the country in free and open elections.
Why am I not surprised this is in an Islamic country.
Honour killings? What honour is there is such an act. Very disgraceful
How is it a honorable way to die?? WTF
I'm sick of the ole 'you can't prove there is not god' line of thinking (and I actually use the word thinking in that statement under protest).
Carl Sagan said it best, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Prove there IS a god, or shut the fuck up about your imaginary beings.
If I said I had a dragon in my garage, and 1 million people stood up and said it's true, we 'believe' he has a dragon in his garage, guess what, if I am unwilling to prove it, those 1 million people prove nothing with their dumb ass belief.
The sky IS blue, to a human eye, and I don't need to 'believe it' I can back it up.
And until you PROVE there is a god, it's a fucking stupid unproven idea, and I don't care how many idiots believe in him and for how long they've been stupidly doing so.
And every last culture that supports the notion, is a culture based on weak minded unthinking idiots.
ASDASDASDASDASD, just say Devil's Proof (yeah, guess where I took that from). We cannot prove the existance of God, BUT we cannot prove that God doesn't exist. Fairly easy.
Actually, yes, we HAVE already proven (by debunking with evidence the LIES of the Bible) that 'god' does not exist except in the DELUDED minds of those who are stupid enough to believe in them.
Now, very powerful beings with 'godlike' powers? Yep, those might exist.... but I've never met one and even if I did, I would NOT call them a 'god' but simply a very powerful person who is no better nor worse than I am when it comes down to it.
I'm against death penalty, however... in this kind of situations i'd see positively public torture.
Beaten your daughter so she'll learn to be more respectful (you, traditions)? Meh, not really a good thing, but understandable. Maybe a fine to pay if you get caught.
Vengeance? That can be understood, too.
But to bury alive (and with no drugs or whatever, even a strong hit on the head would've been better) your own daughter just because she wanted to socialize. No really, they shouldn't lock them up, they should delete them. No more birth certificate, invalidating the marriage... no more trace of their existence, except for records of what happened and what was the punishment.
Still it's a good ting they did recognize that there was a crime.
Anyway religion isn't the issue. The issue is that religion is the most simple and effective way to brainwash people into something. And then you end up with crusades, suicide bombers, parents that let their daughter die because God would've healed her, parents that bury alive a chatterbox.... yeah. As long as you brainwash people into "don't steal" "don't kill" and so on it's not really bad :-|
A fine for beating your daughter?
The fuck?
Judging from the down-voting your comment received, this site is either full of users who simply completely misunderstood what you were trying to say or who agree that daughters should be beaten into submission when they're disrespectful to their owners or their owners' traditions. If it's the latter, I wonder where all this hate for Islam around here is coming from. One would think this site's userbase should be celebrating the father and grandfather as heroes instead...
Im glad UNICEF is helping these girls feel safer!
oh wait...
ISSSSSSLAAAAAAAAAMM!!!! is at it again.
Fuck Islam.
I don't care what muslims and Islamic bastards say, this is not a peaceful or harmless religion.
The news has nothing to do with religion. It's a bad, bad translation. Read a few posts above you.
that's why i hate stupid beliefs,they're no worse than a lowly animal don you think?
and for some reason,after getting attached to science,im also starting to hate religions,basically it divides people and bring them to fight/war,and after learning the truth behind the "creation",but the good thing i like in our church(christian church),they're raising money to help those who were unfortunate like in haiti earthquake
Thats it i've had it, once and for all, any thing that results in the death or deaths of animals and humans of any type - retarted - male - female - hair color - eye color - skin color - and sends warriors out to kill above 'topics of death' is not now nor will ever be considered a religion or a family tradition.
NUKE THEM ALL TO HELL, NUKE THEM ALL TO HELL.
as you were return to duties
FWIW, please remember that this act is heavily condemned in Islam in Quran in two different verses.
Though, this was common in the Arabian regions before Islam, 1430 years ago.
It's a sad fact that many Muslims and non-Muslims alike confuse pre-islamic acts as islamic ones.
For the interested, this what the Quran says in one of the verses:
081.008 When the female (infant), buried alive, is questioned -
081.009 For what crime she was killed;
...
081.014 (Then) shall each soul know what it has put forward.
Source: http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/quran81.html
Anon @ 06:35 06/02/2010
Problem: this assumes there's no crime, that the girl is innocent. These men believed she had committed a crime, that she was not innocent. They punished her for something that really is not wrong at all. But in their twisted view, what she did was so bad it deserved the death penalty. Unfortunately, the verse you cited says nothing about that. And that is why they could do what they did without feeling bad about it.
Their faith let them be free to commit great evil. Their faith community encouraged and reinforced their faith.
Without the faith that they were doing the right thing by brutally murdering a child, do you think they would have done it? I don't think so.
Before anybody gets the wrong meaning
This is an implication that the female was killed for no crime, and her killer will see that and be condemned for his act.
I see a commonality between Christianity and Islam:
Each of their holy books was written in a way which *requires* interpretation into current-day languages.
And, of course, each person interprets these holy books the way *they* wish to.
So, basically, every person is making it up themselves, or accepting someone else's way of making it up.
Read the history of Islam, and you'll see why that "commonality" exists.
Chiri-chan :3
Gotta love her. "Kichinto shite kudasai."
Serves those guys right, they didn't do a proper job.
DISGUSTING. There can be NO excuse for this. Death-penalty is too good for these bastards. There should be a torture-to-death penalty for them.
And you'd be doing exactly the same thing they did. I'd rather just put them in jail for the rest of their lives.
but make sure its a veeery shitty life in the worst hellhole of a jail you can imagine. where surprise buttseks is becoming less and less a surprise
I wouldn't mind becoming evil if it would make bastards like them think twice before doing an "honor" killing ever again.
"I wish to rid this world of evil, and I shall become evil itself to do so"
@ anon 08:41
Should I give you a Selecao or have Ryuk lend his Death note?
You'd think the cops would start helping girls like this by now.
A lack of help from the police will always keep CSIs employed at least.
This is disgusting.
This is Islam.
this is islam
not surprised
To be precise... This is the MIDDLE-EAST
Who are muslim.
This is Islam.
i would say crimes commited by so called "muslims" descendants who know shit and take laws in their own hands and not holy islam.
like i would blame the church (for burning "witches" , for having red hairs, for making medicine by skilled women and get them killed)
also, they dont fuck little children like members of the "holy catholic church", but take lolis in some states (where stone age still lingers)
PLEASE GET RID OF STEREOTYPING WHEN KNOWING SHIT ! >:( islam islam islam is bad please, wake up in this 21 century. or attend the army to join in Afghanistan and iraq to make the world a better place
Yep and there have been several honor killings in the US committed by Muslims ... as was said before this is Islam .. heck even you try to argue that it is the "extremists" well I hate to break it to you, but the extremists Muslim population is estimated to be at about 10% of all Muslims ...
That's about 160,000,000 people (with some estimates as high as 300,000,00) who believe they will be blessed by God if they kill you and your family for being infidels - and their numbers are increasing each year.
I live in Denmark, honour killings of islamic girls happens here too, Denmark ain't in the middle-east.
This is islam
They're obviously IMMIGRANTS from the MIDDLE EAST
seriously, anyone who defends religion needs to end exactly this way
or if he/she is christian, being burned alive is an option im willing to tolerate for a small fee
As much as I like making bad jokes on the Relgion.One Anonymous pointed out It wasn't there Relgion It was their culture that cause the murder of the girl.
Thank you Turkish guy who posted a good point as he said in his post.
"In Turkey, a girl talking to a guy is seen as, in some areas, a bad comportment because they believe (and their ancestor too) that a girl must not talking to the opposite for some reasons I don't know (I know it IS stupid to think like that). Their mentality is focused to "A girl must marry to a guy by the way of arranged wedding"."
He also pointed out about in detail.
"Now, this kind of situations only occurred in some little villages and some not evolved town. Some town, like Istanbul for example, guys and girls can speak to each other freely ! So please, before categorize an act as Islamic or whatever try to understand the mentality of the country where this kind of accident occur.
Finally, I don't say this kind of "honor killing" is acceptable ! I think too that it is unforgettable and not easy to understand but every country has their own culture (seeing Equality Now criticize Eroge and Japan is quite a big example I think)
(Sorry for my bad english and long post)"
I can understand what you mean, It was clear enough your right.
Amen. (Ironic, I know.)
Why do you silly atheists like to blame all the worlds problems on religion?
Ignorance is bliss huh?
Let's see ... When Stalin murdered 30,000,000+ of his citizens for no other reason than they disagreed with his policies where was religion? Oh yeah it was illegal at the time.
When Mao slaughtered millions of his citizens and caused roughly 30,000,000 of them to starve to death in the name of his "great leap forward" where was religion? Oh yeah it was illegal there to ... so let's see that's 60,000,000+ people killed by atheists.
If you took every single person killed in the history of the world in name of religion it would not equal the death toll caused by just these two atheists.
Am I saying that atheism is the root of all human evil? No. The point is that people will always find a reason to kill each other.
Communism and fascism essentially substituted ideology and the state for god, resembling religion in many respects, so it might be more correct to condemn unconditional belief in authority.
However, this appears to be an integral part of the human condition unlikely to go anywhere soon...
It would be nice to weed out all the "idiots".
Points for anyone who gets my, uh, point.
Their is nothing 'Islamic' about burying people alive!! Neither is it a Christian thing.
please don't confuse this behaviour to what islam is about when you clearly don't know about it. It is true there are fucked up Muslims who do this barbaric shit but there is nothing in Islam that allows this shit. Even though I'm Christian, it just pains me to see these 'false' images about religions just because someone did something bad.
But damn....this parent and grandfather need an ass whooping...and get buried alive...i mean what the hell...just for seeing 'male' friends???
what is wrong with this world?
@ 07:16
We are witnessing descendants of the village idiot.
Man, I grew up in the south (US bible belt). Only some of us have grown up... it won't take much before we have our own army of Timothy McVeighs running around doing the same shit the terrorists are doing.
"We christians, we muslims, we jews"
Hell!, stop with the hive mind, each person is responsible for his own actions independently of his beliefs. In every society and religion we'll find lots of crimes (punished and unpunished.) Blaming a group for an individual action it retarded.
@07:49
Someone?
You don't get to ignore 6000 years of history, just because most of you Christians have been somewhat behaving lately.
Religion has been a thorn to the evolution of human society for as long as history exists. I'm sure I don't need to go over every crime against nature/humanity that was committed in the name of god.
And it's not "some" Muslims. It's more like a fairly large number of Muslims who just refuse to adapt to the modern world.
*insert some Christian bashing for good measure*
Some Parents in diffrent cultures can be strick on their children. Its sad enough that one child has to die just because she was seeing boys.
I guess grounding her in the room wasn't enough because its a Christian idea that Muslims dislike.
GROUNDING IS A CHRISTIAN IDEA.
OHGOD.
PLEASE TELL ME YOU WERE JOKING...
You are extremely ignorant. You are no better than the obnoxious people who tout their religions.
If people live with their religion, which they practice in their private lives (not being in anyone's faces about it), why the fuck should you care if they believe in a god or not?
Grow up.
actually, the middle ages are regarded as a shameful chapter in christianity's book. however, i would like to point out that we have...grown up so to speak whereas islam....hasnt
I guess your right, but It won't them stop them from believeing that Prophet Muhammad makes better fried chicken then Colonel Harland Sanders.
Its funny how that turned out when they wanted to burn down KFC.
You can't ignore 6000 years of history either.
Both good and bad sides to religion exist, just as there are good and bad people. Someone will be hard-pressed to find a religion that hasn't been called upon in the name of "something", but you will also be hard-pressed to not find good/charitable acts done for religions' sake; yes, even scientific progress.
That's simply picking and choosing.