Schoolgirl Skirts Doomed: 80% Support Trousers
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jan 22, 2010 11:12 JST
- Tags: Fashion, Panchira, Schoolgirls, Seifuku, Skirts, Statistics, Teachers
Recent survey results seem to suggest that skirts may not long remain a part of the archetypal Japanese school uniforms, with 80% approving of trousers, which have been gradually making inroads into school uniforms in recent years.
The survey of attitudes to school uniforms amidst men and women aged 20-50 drew varied results.
Regarding the issue of trousers making their way into female school uniforms, 37.8% “strongly approved” of trousers for girls, 40.3% indifferently approved, yielding a total of some 80% supporting trousers over skirts.
The division of opinion between the sexes on the issue is fairly pronounced: 88.4% of women approved of trousers versus 69.8% of men. Older age ranges were more likely to support trousers.
Reasons given for preferring trousers varied from “because it’s cold” to “as a precaution against chikan.” Reasons such as “there’s no reason to limit the choice to skirts” and “it’s better to wear trousers than end up wearing something under your skirts.”
Those demanding schoolgirls remain skirted offered up such dubious reasons as “you can wear tights or leggings so there’s no need,” “it’s not feminine” and “skirts are cuter.”
86.8% of respondents reported attending a school which had a uniform, a perhaps unexpectedly low figure. Of these, over 60% reported “liking” the uniforms in some capacity, with 11.5% greatly enamoured of them.
Actual schoolgirls were not included in the survey, but in general it seems they approve of skirts, often the shorter the better; it should also be noted that it is actually head teachers (and the school uniform fashion industry) who have the final say.









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no no no definetely NO!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
NOT THE TROUSERS!!!
well, hotpants woul be fine too, i guess.
or just nake thiose skirts longer and give those poor girls some warm pantyhose to match, at least in the cold season.
or just make maid uniforms ther new school uniform standard.
there are so many viable alternatives to pants for girls!
money has the final say.
so we dont have to worry.
'Bout damn time.
Alright, here's the thing: My partner has major gender identity issues. I won't make you privy to their biological gender nor their preferred one. I will say, however, that knowing what I do, I can imagine how, for example, a Japanese schoolgirl with these very same issues would feel being forced by the school system to wear something that identifies and objectifies her as a girl. I don't think this is something that ought to be enforced simply so that the rest of us can have our jerk-off fantasies. The people actually WEARING the damn things should be taken into account.
Hey, if a girl feels like a man then whats the problem? A REAL man can wear anything without any trouble. True men can be GAR with skirts, just ask Kogarashi! Kukukuku!
Bad end?
More like Bioware end.
Regardless of what you do, the world always ends up fucked up.
now now people.Trousers give women the chance to play with you by thrusting her pelvis on you and still deny you sex lolololol.
Can't forget that bus ride how a girl actually pelvis thrusted my leg lol and she didn't stop doing it.
I would like to add that a whole lot of females could be charged with indecent exposer for wearing light underwear under skirts. If a dude walked out and around in underwear and a skirt he would be arrested instantly. The giant cameltoe issue won't be solved with pants either. Most blue jeans for girls as well are custom fit to a girls body and guys can't wear them no matter how skinny. If you think a girl can't look great in jeans, you need glasses.
Jeans are all they wear where I live. Even cargo pants end up looking hot in comparison. Even compared to other pants, jeans hide a lot of form...
Really, jeans are about as attractive as a small moustache.
Don't worry too much. Nothing mandatory will come up from this as girls won't tolerate something that make them look less sexy. So, maybe they will have the choice of trousers, but they will still be able to wear skirts whenever they want to. And they will want to, at the very least while prostituting themselves...
Are they nuts or something...!?
Who cares. Real life japanese schoolgirls usually suck anyway...
Unless girls come to school wearing school mizugi, than no they must keep their legacy going
I get to betray all the skirt lovers our there(actually, not really, they're empty kind words), but I found this personally to be really great news.
Being that they're school uniforms, women are basically forced into an outdated gender roles by the system.
I like how in the West most women wear pants to be honest, inside school, and work, and at leisure.
If you can't at least agree that it would be fine to lose the stigma for Japanese boys to wear the skirts and Japanese girls to wear the boys uniforms and it become normalized, I can't say you're not my enemy.
The only thing you can try to do to change my mind would be to try to say it would be better to eliminate gender clothing differentiation is schools altogether.
Bleh, thats not enough. We need to eliminate gender differetiation from the roots!
With some Surgical Procedures we can change the human race to an one gender species. The end of this babbling about men and womens, an hermafrodite species is the obvious solution.
I take it you're making a sarcastic statement and you think it makes any sort of keen point.
Opposition to gender roles is quite different from opposition to sex differentiation. Much less opposition to school mandated gender roles.
It's freaking clothing, not a penis or a vagina.
So this means that... Japanese women have no sense of fashion?
Not currently.
The Japanese are fucking idiots, if you're making a survey you're supposed to ask the schoolgirls themselves, not some old farts who have little to do with it!
Sweden do NOT approve!
I just asked my 16 year old Japanese niece what she thought of this idea and she freaked out. "The girls will NEVER allow it! Skirts are cute and uniforms with pants would be SO ugly!" She also said she'd never heard of this "stupid idea." She told me one of the schools in her town (not a big one) had planned to go to casual clothing and again, the girls slammed their feet down and it wasn't done. They demanded to keep their uniforms. Who knew schoolgirls had that much real world power?
So we may yet have a chance....
Go Schoolgirls. Well it's true they do look cute with school uniforms.
Then guys should be allowed to wear skirts as well. Shouldn't limit our choices after all right?
Scotland says "YES WE CAN"!!!
And in fact, they do.
Zettai Ryouiki in jeopardy
You know why more and more men are turning to 2D characters now? Because it's getting so hard to find a "girl" in the real world. Femininity is being taken as a sign of weakness, so to try to reach a parity with men, it is being forsaken.
Then, I've thought before that's why you see so many dresses in Touhou Project... things in that world are things that have disappeared from the real world, or people stopped believing in them. It's only natural that a world like that would be full of girly girls.
I'm fine either way.
As someone in 2ch has said about this; "Japan is finished."
Yea, this feeling is somehow but only progressing recently
yup. it seems its coming
nextstep is a fullscale camouflage for both boys&girls
no skirts anymore?
I blame the foreigners.
Schoolgirls skirts down 80%, male skirts up 80%....
Isn't it damn cold to wear skirts in winter? I sugggest pants in winter and skirts the rest of the year.
I believe that almost all men, and most of the female students, would prefer skirts. A clear majority. But, let the students decide their own fashion.
like we care about 3d, call back when this happens in manga/anime/hentai
80% of Japanese people are closet hicks.
Let the 3D world do as they please with their fashions, as long as we still have 2D skirts to fap to.
my school accepted trousers and i wore them. you can jump, run, sit as you like with them. And they looked great if u had good ass X,D!
After the schoolgirls wear trousers,
maybe later we'll have the schoolboys wear skirts?
Here's an idea.
Maybe even if the girls wear trousers, you can still romance them just the same.
The short-skirt thing is way too overrated, how bout having them wear Hot-Pants for a change. At least they can show off their Hot and Sexy legs without guys taking a peep at their pantsu.
Girls in Trousers aren't girls anymore... Just look at these OLs,they wear tuxedos and behave like men while still using heavy make up and behaving like women whenever they benefit from it...
School girls should remain pure and girly, not like those in the western hemisphere where they are rotten to the core because they've lost their sexual identity.
And sexual identity is strongly underlined by the way you dress, meaning you feel less feminine if you can't do womanly things(like cooking,sewing and raising children) + dress androgynos (with trousers, Suits,etc.) + behave like men (talking back, driking, smoking, being aggressive,etc.) so it will just lead to massive population decrease (because women don't want to stay women and try to steal the places reserved for men in this society)
and stupid kids that can't be of any use for this society anymore (because the mothers refused to raise them and forced them into daycare as soon as possible).
Please Japan, keep your womanly women and diss their interest in trousers, because all the world is envious of the "Yamato Nadeshiko" but hates the typical "Office Lady" that can't do anything besides seducing her coworkers and chefs and go drinking all night long(just watch Japanese Drama to see their shameful acts 1:1)!
short shorts ftw
oh boy this shall be moment of disgrace to the zeong mobile suit, that ugly char mobile suit that wears a skirt, when we elaborate about japan's gundam culture...
Before getting into anime, I didn't care.
Now I strongly appreciate skirts on girls, especially semi-long and fluttery.
Trousers are fine, but boring.
Imagine this: ALL SCHOOL GIRLS WEAR TROUSER!!!! and the only place you can find school girl with skirts is in anime...The population of anime viewers increased.
Well at least they let the school girls have two option. Knowing Japanese girls they would want to look cute. but if they want pant then let them have pants. This reminded me of elementary school when I had school uniform code. I didn't want to wear skirt because I can't do a lot of activity like chasing little boys down and kicking their asses for messing with me and my friends. But many girls still like to wear skirts and only a few wear pants so I don't think it's a big deal.
aaaaww I'm gonna miss the orig school girl power ...Sailor Moon.
Well, but every other country that is NOT Japan says otherwise, so majority wins, and skirts will hold their positions
Schoolgirls in Japana have been wearing skirts for as long as I can remember... Now that it's going to change, it's like totally changing the tradition. Japan wouldn't be what it would be if it turns out to be a skirt-less place
Well even if they are forced to where skirts the girls are still gonna wear pants under their skirts in the winter.
So it really doesn't matter.
NOOO! I knew it! The end of the world is at hand!!!
japan isnt japan if there are no skirts =X
Ah, hell no! Schoolgirl skirts are love!
This is depressing. When I want girls to look like boys, I'll tell you. Don't wait for it.
And when the real girls ditch skirts, well it will only look stupid to draw them with skirts. Just glad I have a couple of decades of anime with school girls wearing skirts to survive on.
I'm old fashioned, I think their skirts should be much MUCH longer, definitely past the knee. And the girls should fear repercussion for rolling. But I still want them dressed like girls all the same.
And don't give me that crap girls can wear pants too.
Pants is for males and lesbians that are just annoyed they aren't males.
Oh wait, I have a better suggestion for uniforms:
JUST FUCKING LET THE GIRLS CHOSE THEMSELVES. What's wrong with having 2 uniforms to chose from for each person? Oh riight, the tradition.... well bite me, retards, do as you like
I don't think it's just the tradition. It's also probably the notion that everyone must look as identical as possible.
Fuck that, girls should be girls, stop turning them into some weaker retarded men.
Girls should be pretty, so they should wear skirts. End.
That law will never pass.
it's better for girls to know how to stay feminit and attract a man,even with clothes if they want.
But i want them to consider health also as an issue.Don't want to see you crawling to the toilet if you get a kidney inflamation,becouse you had your bellies or kidneys exposed to the cold.
Wow, really? It's only cold during winter, so just let them wear stockings and they will be fine. Also, the cold helps against cellulite, so it will just make them even more prettier!
hahaha you already fail in bringing true order into a womens life.
By suggesting it is ok to be cold for cellulite,you can tell her what she can wear,but the main point is to properly care for her.
Reasons for skirts:
1. If you never wear skirts in school, you won't feel comfortable wearing them as an adult.
2. Uniform skirts can help a girl's body image. The pleats give skinny adolescent and tom-boy bodies more shape. And skirts help disguise fat hips that look unflattering in pants.
But even pants are better than no uniform. I wish our public schools had uniforms. Too much pressure to wear a particular brand, and too many cliques based on fashion. Some students can't afford or fit into the most popular fashions. Uniforms help hide economic disparity between students and put everyone on an equal fashion level.
If I'd become a politician, I'd simply issue a girl-only law that skirts are mandatory xD And kill me or kill me not, YOU WILL BE WEARING THEM!
Roy Mustang, login please.
Trousers may be ok during the winter, but at least keep the skirts for summer!
WHA
Skirts are the best part of the uniform if the overall outfit design is good. They should make the options of skirts and trousers available to all students and allow people to pick their own desired lengths. I've heard testimony from men about how breezy and 'free' wearing a skirt feels.
I'd wear a school uniform every single weekday if given the chance.
I'd give the girls the choice between wearing pantsu or not under the mini skirts. ^_^
Girls in my highschool had the option of either skirt or trousers and it was not as bad as perverts thought it would be.
I have a brilliant idea! How about they ask the student.
no children are too dumb for opinion.
but seriously why the fuck they ask 20-50 old adult if it about school uniform, they're grown up now their opinion on fashion don't matter shit
Nawww... that goes against adults need to control everything and make it fit THEIR tiny world views.
japan is lookin grim
There is a creative solution against chikan and cold, according to the article.
Step 1: Wear a thick cloth diaper (hard to feel the chikan's hands)
Step 2: Wear a romper (buttons between the legs, more difficult for chikan to manipulate the wearer)
Step 3: Wear a short skirt
Thick cloth diaper is also good for cold winter. Shazam! The skirts can stay.
The most babyish solution is the best solution for school girls.
I'm sure diaper fetishists would really love that solution... ^_^
Maybe schoolgirls wearing trousers mightnot be so bad.
I mean, look at the female officers of the London Metropolitan Police Service. They switched from skirts to slacks in the mid-90s.
How bad would this be?
I prefer asses through tight fitting trousers than skirts.
Hm...I admit you have a point there. Though I do like zettai ryouiki...and since most japanese women/girls don't exactly have great asses....
I think japanese girls are more insecure about the image of their ass than not looking good in a trouser.
Meanwhile, the rest of the modern world has done away with mandatory uniforms in public schools.
Japan is a decade forward in technology, and a decade behind in social norms.
Meanwhile some parts of the modern world actually think about making school uniforms mandatory again. There are voices in germany who want to prevent bashing of students who do or don't wear expensive brand clothes.
Japan is a decade forward in technology, and a decade forward in social norms as well.
Here, I fixed it for you. ^_^
>modern world
>germany
Pick one.
Looks like you have some facts mixed up.
By "modern world" we refer to the state of the world in the present time.
By "Germany" we refer to a country which lies in western Europe.
And unless you have at least master's in physics, you are not allowed to mix space and time together.
Because modern world cannot be used as a phrase for a first world country.
Skirts are dying everywhere.
I can't even remember the last time I saw a girl using one, and I live IN BRAZIL.
@#&%&%@$%
I hate jeans.
Well look at the good side. Jeans allow you to get an opinion if the girl has a nice ass or not. Actually now that i think maybe that's why girls in Brazil wear them so much. Girls in Brazil are obsessed on showing they have a nice ass more than anything. There ass is more important that there face to them.
Japanese girls can win in cuteness, nice hair and a thin delicate body but they are not that good in the ass department. Maybe wearing trousers isn't a good idea for them. Skirts flatter them more.
Well in last 8 yaers of my life i saw only ONE women who does not wear trousers most of time...
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You aren't the only one anon. ;_;
there is only ever one anon
3 and counting...
I hat jeans, but I only like long skirts so I guess I'm not really part of this movement you have here; but good luck anyway.
This is a sad, sad day.
Agreed
How about you get rid of the entire uniform!?
*Negi sneeze*
No, getting rid of the entire uniforms is a bad idea. See through uniforms would be a great innovation, though.
And what good would that do?
schoolgirls with the uniform gotten rid of entirely = naked? Is this right?
Well, no uniforms and it will be cheaper to be naked. So, problem solved?
Na...they'd be in their underwears...which can potentially be more appealing than naked...
Save on laundry, save the world!
uniform gotten rid of...
= naked schoolgirls?
would that be good?
Would be bad in winter...
Then they'd be naked, of course. :)
Less anti-individualist shit
Naked students, duh!
They will be naked.