The PS3 port of “multiplatform” witch fest Bayonetta has been decried as a travesty with long load times, inferior graphics and a host of other deficiencies, but the hopes of those awaiting a patch have been dashed with a flat denial from Sega.
Sony’s eventual response to fan complaints about the state of the game on the PS3:
“Sorry but we can’t change anything at the loading time of this game.
I think isn’t possible that a patch can change this.”
Can’t, or won’t?
Platinum Games is doubtless reassessing the wisdom of outsourcing the PS3 port to Sega, a decision which soured the hyperbolic esteem in which the game is held with a note of acrimony.
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Actually if they took a little more time on the PS3 version, then all this rage wouldnt have happened
Has anyone even thought about HOW a patch would work?
There's no install data to modify, and it's only disc-based. All a patch could work with is the save file.
I don't think you understand how patches work on current gen consoles.
A patch could work by enabling you to copy disc resources to the hard drive and play the game that way.
And companies wonder why people pirate games, movies, music and whatever. They release crap and not even trying to make it right to their customers. So some turn to piracy. $10 vs $50~$60 for some game, think about it.
PS3 games are currently not possible to pirate and play, but just trying to make a point...
I still think that, in the end, the PS3's version will sell more than 360 original. This is a genre of game, difficulty level, and art style, seems to fit the PS3's install base more so than the 360.
I know it crushed 360 here in Japan, I wonder what sales are like over the in US?
Didn't Bayonetta sell to a larger proportion of 360 owners in Japan compared to the proportion of PS3 owners who bought it?
In the west I think boring Darksiders is outselling it :(
Me being a gameplay snob only care about the load time.
@SEGA
so you're telling me you can make Valkyria Chronicles run perfectly on the PS3, look perfect and have no bugs whats over for a fully cell shaded game. . .
but you CAN'T port a game from the 360 without messing up, or even attempting to fix it?
no wonder you guys keep failing -,-
This is all really just one small step in SEGAs plan to get revenge on Sony for their role in the death of the Dreamcast.
God speed you glorious bastards, you.
As far as I'm concerned I will continue to buy games created by Platinum but will no longer purchase any game made by Sega or Published by them.
I have the PS3 version and I'm not really bothered by the issues that much. Loading times are slow though at least they didn't give you a screen that just said "Loading", although somewhat of an annoyance just accessing the start or select menu or a notification pops up and loading appears for a second. The textures on the environments look like crap, yet I don't care since I barely noticed when playing, everything else in the game still looked stunning. Framerate never seemed a issue, noticeable in cutscenes but the only time I experienced a drop in gameplay was the room with the statue of Jubileus and all those platforms were on the wall. Still I heard the motorcycle level had framerate issues, I'm not playing in HD but I wonder if that has something to do with it. Still same on SEGA for not including a install.
Shit, meant "Shame on SEGA" I should make a account
haha screw you ps3
Haha because GAYBOX is such a easy machine to undertstand thats why dev prefer easy method to create a game.not like Naighty dog or gureilla game / quantic dream and so on...PS3 inferior ? try Unchrted 2 graphic gaytard box . I bet u will STFU and play ur gay master chief immediately !
Exactly. X360 game developers do not have egos as big as PS3 developers. They get in, get it done, and get paid. Regardless of some of Microsoft's practices, I actually applaud their attempts to make development easier.
You have a point, but that Gaybox thing is going too far.
Yes you can reduce loading time with a patch. Just add an option to install data on harddisk with the patch. Sega are beyond stupid, no wonder bayonetta is done wrong, they can't even make any more good sonic games.
Why don't they just die already.
if it still playabel I think it is fine game shuld not only be about looks or loading speed a great game has great story and great soundtrack and good controlss. The looks and loading speed comes last. I know several Ps1 game that is way better than todays ps3 games hmm Final fantasy 7 is 1000 times better than final fantasy 3 and the looks and loading speed is still not as great as Final fantsy 13 but the story is way better and it is not a Linare shot load like FF13. So I wonder why have todays gammer forogt that the looks in a game is not the most important thing to make a good game. shame on you all to call you gamers.
Sony and Sega doesn't want to admit they fuck this one up.After many advertisments of a chick with a gun killing stuff people wanted to buy it and got what they payed for.
Don't blame this on Mircosoft because they had nothing to do with this. I can tell you Xbox version loading time isn't that bad enough to bitch at Microsoft and Its working fine.
Why is Sony to be blamed? They had nothing to do with "developing" (read: porting and not fixing) the game. O.o SEGA is the one who doesn't want to admit stuff. Sony couldn't even make the patch without SEGA's assistance.
I've seen install options be applied via patches before. Why can't SEGA use a bit of time to make a patch for it and make all those fans happy?
SEGA is Satan; making a crappy port of a game, mostly just thinking about Japan's sales (PS3 dominance), and when those blindly following sheep have bought the game that's being promoted so furiously, SEGA runs away and shouts "Enjoy!" without ever coming back to take responsibility for their horrid act.
End of rage.
Why is Sony to be blamed? Because they wouldn't let Sega release Bayonetta on PS3 later than the 360 version. Hence, the rushed game on Sony's confusing hardware that doesn't have the 'hooks' necessary for patches to be applied.
But Sega have to be Sony's scapegoats, because Sega can't afford to say no to Sony. It's a sad state of affairs and you suckers are buying it. If only the Dreamcast had beaten the PS2 back in the day. It certainly deserved to, what with it being first, cheaper, and with better texturing and anti-aliasing whenever a game went cross-platform. Sound familiar?
Any outsourced port is going to be shit.
The commercials look cool, I guess we should all get X boxs?
This is just a joke and a major rip off. I payed £40 for it and love it but because of the loding issues it frezes within half an hour. personally fuck you sega... money grabbing lazy cunts.
Why fix what isn't broken?
hell ya they would. its a waste of blu-ray disc. blu-ray cost alot
Well, look at it this way: the 360 needs 3 discs for Final Fantasy XIII. I can handle a few extra seconds of loading time, but getting off the couch to eject a disc, put it away, pull out another disc and stick it in the machine, then wait for it to load? Takes way longer.
The 360 still has the short end of the stick. Suck it. PS3 fucking rocks.
YES GAYSTATION IS MORE FAIL NOW. HA! You probably get back at us when FF comes and is better than Xbox port.
Sony fixed the problem, more like WINSTATION M I Rite?
If you're stupid enough to buy a ps3 it's your own damn fault.
I practically worshiped the ps2, and despised the xbox but now I have a 360. Yep, the ps3 is bad enough that I'm willing to give money to Bill Gates.
I've been playing bayonetta on my ps3 for a couple days now, and after I installed the game data (which took for-fuckin-ever) there are barely any load times to deal with in-game, so stop your fuckin whining you crybaby bitches. install the game data from the options menu and shut the fuck up already
Oh god fuck platinum games.
Bollocks I had no problem so far... If you have trouble with loading times install a 500GB 7.200 RPM HDD and the loading time get cut down by a third in general...
...I may sound a bit biased because I am a PS3 lover, but my ps3 and copy of Bayonetta run fine. I'm running it on the origanal 60GB PS3 and the loading times haven't been bad and I've not seen any of the in-game glitches mentioned in all reviews of the ps3 version of the game. Just thought I would mention that.
Man Sega was so good in the Genesis era but now they are just crap. Wont buy another game from Sega until is a good Sonic game hope and pray one day they might make one until then just rent those Sega little shit of ports.
Sony needs to re-made the hardware
oh sega, if it werent cus of ur others ps3 exclusive games coming, i would say, screw u, u fcking bias pieace of company that cant even take adv for a better piece of hardware...ps3 obvious.
Douchebags! Of course a patch can fix it, Sega's just lazy. I don't have a 360, so this shitty port is my only option here, and Sega should be ashamed about how much they suck.
I dont get it, I played, Valkyria Chronicles(Sega) for the ps3, it GOT installs option on it, so loading is pretty good. Why is this the only game that dont have it?
I think when they are saying that it can not be fixed by a patch means:
They have to modify the porting from the beginning which is unreasonable
Nevertheless, even with the loading issues, it is still a great game to get in the ps3, people are just exaggerating the problem
By the way, who is to blame?
It's the fucking CELL processor made by Sony which is fucking had to program with
Although I know Sega did a really good job in Valkyrie Chronicles! but it was their own game..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yktb7iJoxyo&feature=related [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yktb7iJoxyo&feature=related]
You can't exaggerate loading as bad as this.
I bet all the people who are complaining are the same people who laughed at the people who owned a 360 and got cheated out of content in games such as Star Ocean.
Good thing I own a PS3 and a 360. Stop being a fanboy and become a gamer. More fun that way.
It doesnt make sense. I thought the 360 was doing badly in Japan. Why are they supporting the red ring of death over...the other one?
Why are all the PS3 fanboys butthurt over yet another shitty port? Shouldn't you be used to this by now? Even games like Ghostbusters - where PS3 was the lead platform - turned out worse than the 360 version.
It's like buying a Wii and complaining about all the party games.
The thing is, this was simply a shitty code ported directly, they didnt even try to make adjustments...thats downright wrong...but then again, PS3 exclusive kill X360 games anyday, and since GOW3 is just around the corner, we dont really care about it (even if its currently selling better on PS3...oh the irony...).
@Anon 12:37:
You wrote, "...simply a shitty code ported directly, they didn't even try to make adjustments..."
How can one port game code "directly" between PS/3 and Xbox360 when their architectures are so different?
Yes, they both have a PowerPC CPU, but if you do any graphics I/O (and working games _will_ do graphics I/O), you _have_ to adjust for system differences.
When I wrote adjustments I was somewhat wrong, I meant "did things that would make both editions the 'same'", something that didnt happen. And in beggining of this gen, there were direct ports from X360 to PS3, those were downright horrible.
True, but Xbox 360 version of Bayonetta seems to work well enough for me to play.
News flash: 360 version is far from perfect. It has plenty of tearing and a fair amount of slowdown as well.
The PS3 version is a lot worse. If you think the 360's slowdown is bad, go see how horrible the PS3's is.
Xbox is another way for Microsoft to take control of human lives.
Quick! Everyone! Convert to Sony and be saved!
What's funny is that the loading problem could've been solved or reduced by having it install to the hard drive.
sony fanboy rage is sony fanboy rage.
Well, all you need is a change in perspective.
Think of the load times not as flaws, but features! Yes, it's like going back to the good old Playstation days when you can go make a sandwich and go to the bathroom while waiting for the game to finish loading. Bah, who needs modern day progress? Pass me more of that PS3 koolaid!
Gamers nowadays would rather just have the game load fast. They don't seem to mind stagnantly consisting off of bags of Doritos and urinating into empty Mountain Dew bottles....
Gamer A: "Dude! We gotta make a Dew run!"
Gamer B: "Nah, we got plenty here. Just look."
Gamer A: (Looks around) "Tell me you haven't been mixing the Dew bottles from the store up with the *used* Dew bottles!"
Gamer B: "Of course not!"
Gamer A: "Can you tell by looking?"
Gamer B: "Well... no..."
Gamer A: "Can you tell by *tasting*?"
Gamer B: "Well... no..."
Take that ps3 fanboys! I'm glad I bought the 360 version! Bayonetta is my dream woman!!!!
You definetely need a life...see real women and so on....
Ya anon, you go tell that.... anon.... yep.
Anyway, they should fix Sonic first, not some woman who's taller than Yao Ming and has a smurf sized head...
author is gay and has no friends,
bitter sad troll
Good, PS3 doesn't deserve it.
God forbid console fanboys have to go back the the Jurassic era where we had load times and cord-ed controllers and other primitive things.
I'm sure my sleep will be plagued tonight since I'm not getting an extra 6 pixels on a witch's ass.
You must be a mind reader
QFT
in my day hacking ROMs literally ment hacking ROMs
"I'm sure my sleep will be plagued tonight since I'm not getting an extra 6 pixels on a witch's ass."
LMFAO, well said!
Microsoft pays of game companies to make the PS3 version of multiplatform game suck. Modern warfare 2 is a good example of this. the multiplayer on the PS3 is laggy as hell. Even with a 4 bar connection.
Sony demand that third parties either launch multiformat games simultaneously or add exclusive content to the PS3 version if it ships late. I don't know why, but it's been this way from the start.
Platinum Games appear to have a policy against releasing games unfinished for the sake of adding content later. Bayonetta had to come out at the same time on PS3 (which required Sega's help to prevent an even poorer rushed port), or otherwise there would have been a massively unfair delay to the 360 version, or no PS3 game at all due to Sony's own selfish policy.
Microsoft pays of game companies to make the PS3 version of multiplatform game suck. Modern warfare 2 is a good example of this. the multiplayer on the PS3 is laggy as hell. Even with a 4 bar connection.
MW2 sucks in general.
you only say that because you're on of those people who gets dizzy easily after playing 10 minutes of first person shooters on HDtv or standard tv. You can't handle it.
Therefore you do not like MW2.
LOL@serious FPSer comment. Yeah, because people who like FPS games love not having dedicated servers. 64 man games are for pussies! It's all about tiny 9v9 max listen servers!
actually, mw2 sucks
definitely not for real gamers
10/10
Would rage again.
At least when you luck out and are the game host it's easy to go 30 and 2.
It's like you become some kind of bullet dodging, quick draw maniac when you are host of a COD game.
So much so I often stay in the same FFA room for hours just because I know eventually I'll be the host and my K/D ratio just goes up up up as long as I stay put.
Meh, not that of a big deal. I'm not that picky on videogames. It's still Bayonetta, and that what matters.
Well, its annoying in hte beggining, one could get use to it, and the jaggies i can hardly notice them, and i'm on a 42" 1080p plasma tv.
the game is more than awesome!!!!!!
Exactly, after all the Ps3 did get Vesperia right?
well is it even coming out in english?
plus w/e not like im getting that game for the ps3 anyways
I'm currently playing it on the PS3 and I have no real complaints with it.
My thoughts exactly. I can't really believe all the hatred in this site against Sega on this one. Ok, could it be done better? Yes, of course but i enjoyed it the way it is now. Please calm down, stop the hatred.
How can you endure the loading time ?
I've played it on my friend PS3 and its loading time made me changed my mind to buy the bayonnetor. There are still lots of good games to come up next
It's not that long, plus i've played games with longer load times so i'm patient on this matter. Regardless thought it's still a great game.
Agreed. The loading time is barely even noticeable(15 sec. at the most) on my PS3. Besides, I just use that time to learn/perfect some more combos.
What?......thats not fair. They should just stop giving Sega games to port and find some other publisher to do a competent port. Also
"...I think isn’t possible that a patch can change this.”
think and possible are 2 very ambiguous word choices. I bet its cuz they dont want to spend money just to fix it those a**holes.
Yes, it has been demonstrated time and time again that Sega sucks at porting games, I think that the only reason they let Sega port games is because they do it on the cheap (at least I hope so).
This whole thing didn't surprise me. It's no secret that game companies like to cut corners with ports. That's why I'm highly skeptical about MGS5 with it's "new" system.
I just got a PS3 a few days ago and Bayonetta was one of my first games on the console. I was so hyped up for this game and I'm really enjoying it. However, after seeing the 360 comparisons, I'm starting to feel really down.
This is just horrible business ethics. The port into PS3 was horribly done and SEGA KNOWS this. A few weeks ago, they said they realize the problem. How about addressing it?
Pardon my French, but they're motherfuckers.
They should just stop giving games to Sega entirely. Sega is a terrible company that can't do anything right.
I will only care for Sega again when they give me a REAL Shining Force. As in ...a Shining Force IV. Ok, another Panzer Dragoon Saga might be cool too...or an offline Phantasy Star. And what happened to those stylish IPs from the Dreamcast age?
And yes, these are pretty utopic thoughts.
Jealous PS3 fanboy? atleast Xbox360 version is 100x decent. face it PS3 is all about the name, nothing more
The Blu-ray/HD-DVD war wasn't Microsoft's battle to lose. It was Toshiba and the DVD consortium against Sony.
What are you talking about? Who's being a fanboy now? PS3 = Sony and Sony's made a ton more useful products than Microsoft. After all, Sony beat Microsoft in the BluRay/High Def War.
Either way, the PS3 version isn't terrible, the gameplay is still the same and so what if the graphics are a little less defined than the 360's. It's still a great game.
lmao. worlds dumbest attempt to squeeze more money outta ya ass. lets face it, microsoft rushed a release, sony waited and countered like a samurai.
So I'm assuming Xbox 360's external HD-DVD drive was just in my imagination? Okay, cool. Thanks for confirming.
Phantasy Star Online
bullshit!
its platinum and kamiya who sucks!
they went and made a perfect game for the 360 got content and lazy then gave sega all the code, forcin em to believe itll look as good on the ps3 den we it comes out sites like this and guys like u bash sega! kamiya wanted sega to get all the bad looks! its platinums fault, they shouldve made the ps3 version just as great on the 360! hell if they developed for the ps3 1st i bet it wouldve looked better than the 360 version now >_< this shit grind my gears man.
-Anon
Kamiya and Platinum are brilliant,SEGA sucks
Of Course this site is for The PS3 tham the 360 because it's about japanese stuff and last time I checked The 360 doesn't sell well in The Land of the Rising Sun.
exactly. i agree. ps3 is a total otaku system. sorry xbox
tldr version: buy a 360.
Thats what them bitch ass Sonys get. That'll knock them off of that "Were the superior console" high for a little while. This site totally supports the PS3. Thats all I hear on this site PS3 this and PS3 that. I mean damn, give the xbox some light too.
then get off the site anon
nobody cares about your xbox360 fag love
or your ps3 bashing
both suck in their own right
Sony isn't the only one that boasts the superiority, don't be naive. Both companies boast and brag. It's business.
its kinda hard to give xbox some light, well maybe the red light with 3 beams, making a ring
They made Sonic.
then fucked it up.
... hmmm, I see your point ther
actually Bebop id Blame sony for this one they don't help their developers at all unless its a ps3 exclusive.
And then they did it anyway, because Sega is completely incompetent.
Its more like this, from Sony:
" Why should we spend money to undo others mistakes/shitty port code? Specially when we got a perfect EXCLUSIVE game to counter this? Fuck this shit!"
I agree with u sir. Sega is made of fail. They do everything wrong, dont care about their fans, much less about themselves. The few times they did something nice, they managed to fuck it in the end. They probably spent all the money for the ps3 port to bribe famitsu for the perfect score. A simple install option for the game could very well solve the loading problems.
i dont even care about the loading. the graphics is utter shit as well