Lolita Sex Soldier Spared: “She Was Dangerous”
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Jan 10, 2010 13:01 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Courts, Crime, Law, Lolicon, Military, Schoolgirls, UK
A 41-year-old soldier who had a sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl has been spared jail, with the judge blaming the girl for being “precocious,” saying “she made most of the running.”
The 41-year-old veteran, stationed at Sandhurst Military Academy and said to have remained a private for 22 years due to a lack of competence, became acquainted with a 13-year-old girl at the stables where he worked.
The “troubled” girl confided in the man over a period of several weeks, and the pair became friends.
After getting caught drinking alcohol at school, the girl was sent home and subsequently paid a tearful visit to the stables, where she sought comfort with the private, and then accompanied him back to his room at the academy.
She provided a condom and the pair had sex.
The private was subsequently arrested after the girl produced the condom she had kept from the encounter, apparently as a trophy.
The defence claimed the girl was a “sexual time-bomb”:
“She confided in [the defendant]. He would talk to her about her problems and over a two week period they got to know one another.
She was crying and he invited her back to his room to comfort her and one thing led to another. She was a time-bomb waiting to go off. Unfortunately it was the defendant she went off on.”
The soldier pleaded guilty to one count of sexual activity with a child; the judge gave him a suspended one-year prison sentence, along with a ban on teaching any girls under 16.
The judge was uncharacteristically reasonable in her verdict:
“It was clear from the evidence that she was a disturbed girl, that her behaviour was precocious in several respects, that she looked and acted older than her age and she made most of the running.
Whether you knew her age or not, you had the duty as a man in his 40s to make sure she was the legal age.”
The judge went on to concede that being stupid was a good defence for having sex with children:
“She was just short of 14. There are many girls of 14 in this country who are sexually active – this may not be a good thing but it is a fact that has to be recognised.
This was not a breach of trust situation. Although she was vulnerable, you too in a sense, are vulnerable as you are a simple man. What occurred was stupidity rather than malice.”
Via the Daily Mail.
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Nice to see a judge handling a case like this properly rather than freaking out and putting all the blame on the man.
Wow, can't believe this comes from the same country where all those teenage arrests for self-pedophilization happen.
Anyway GJ judge!
Wow, it's a strictass-looking WOMAN judge too.
I have much respect for this judge. Levelheadedness will get you far. Major props.
In a country where they jail homeowners and free career criminals??? WHUT IS THIS INSANITY?!?!
I agree there is no way a male judge could have gotten away with this verdict.
Male judges can't be lenient or they'd be charged with sexism by the prosecution. How fortunate this judge could sentence without undue concern.
I'm glad to see at least one judge over there has some common sense! ^^
The man was at fault since he shouldn't have let things go that far (he was the adult in that relationship with the girl before it turned sexual, after all), but the girl was also at fault... just in a different way.
interesting point gitami.
But it's very dangerous to call a male judge sexist if you stand for anything.Their decision is final no matter what.And if you belong to any group and say anything to a judge,like i heard from one guy calling a judge sexist and not doing the right decision to a judge.That judge can suspend you from your work for some time,punish you.I think the guy who complained wrote an article about it and the judge forbid him to write any articles about this matter.
Judges can make decisions with authorithy no one else could ever have.
forgot to mention that guy was a complaining feminist who was calling a judge sexist and wrong judgement,when the judge decided that it was a falsely accused rape,which it was.
if that happened in america he would've been lynched i bet.
Gazing Ryan's Private lol
"Sexual time-bomb".
I just LOL'd !
Btw, pedo bear will be fucking happy from now on!
She looks....
i'm gonna be soldier nx yr <3 =]
well you can't deny how jealous the male judges are for making such harsh punishment sometimes,becouse they didn't have the chance to have sex with a young person.
This woman judge couldn't be jealous and looked into all of the situations and judged with her common sense.Probably the girl didn't look that young also.
Finally, proof that stupidity saves your ass.
Not that you should be proud of it though...
Almost unbelievable. We need more judges like that...
Ndeed.
Did you see some of the comments in the link? Some of those people have no idea of how the society works.
Punish the man and reverse the status quo? Give me a break. The PARENTS are not even taking care of the kids. The fact that the kid went to another MAN to do it just shows how pathetic her family is. Idiots can't even think of where the problems are and instead blame the man 100%. Yeesh.
For one, chances are her father wouldn't have had sex with her. Second, he might have done something if his child started acting strange or he'd pimp her out and make money off it.
so instead she should have gone to her FATHER instead?
Is this really the world I'm living in? Because it's PROGRESSING!
I agree I think the judge did on a good job this time
Finally
Keep up the good work
As long as Equality Now doesn't get into the picture.
Against a fully qualified judge? they wouldnt dare, they would get totally *&%£ed
i dont think mr judge is that many. those are precious gems that come once every blue moon. very very rare.
ms/mrs judge actually...
the article is clear about it..
She is a rare specimen. If she was younger and actually attractive, she'd be perfect.
Oh, and if she was a man. Since woman are inherently inferior. :D
I'm so proud! *tear*
more judges should do this!!!
Some should stop all the hate comments on the journal site
Last time I remember being disturbed didn't matter at all, she's 13, you are guilty, no mercy whatsoever.
Finally it seems one judge realized whats wrong and right... yeah right, he had the whole military behind him.
The military was probably looking for a reason to ditch the tard and she gave it to them.
The man's a war hero dammit.
He should have just fap to the loli girl on the above picture.
Its 'safe'.
Not in the UK it isn't. That picture has human rights.
Sounds like a mentally/emotionally unstable girl to me and the guy simply making use of that. Really the judge is far too lenient.
*Sounds like a mentally/emotionally unstable man to me and the girl was simply making use of that.
There, I fixed it.
This reminds me of a film called Crush.
Still I fail to see how consensual sex is a crime, let alone the business of anyone but the two people that engaged in it. It is not the government's place to tell people what they can and can not do as long as they are not hurting anyone.
Consensual sex shouldn't be a crime but when someone is for example drunk or mentally unstable you're taking a risk whether they still like what happened when they sober up or become better. I don't think it's fair to just take that risk when the other party is in such a state and hope for the best. For children of that age(13) whose mind is far from matured you're taking the same risk. I've seen a story about a woman who had sex with an adult man when she was still a kid and very much regrets it. The fact remains you can far more easily overpower a child mentally/emotionally as an adult.
for having a condom she wasn't so mentaly challenged but actually smart.
Yes that woman you are talking about may have regret it but that doesn't make the guy a rapist. People do a lot of things they regret even when they are grown ups.
Being drunk or clearly mentally handicap is not consensual.
It is not the government's job to protect our kids. It's ours as parents; and if parents fuck up and don't tell them the facts, responsibilities, and consequences of sex, then it is their fault.
We are rewarding bad parenting and ignorance in general, which will only spiral out of control.
I've told my girl that they should never do anything they are uncomfortable with, should use a condom properly if she does choose to have sex, to beware of predators online and off, and to most importantly think carefully about who she wants to give her body to. That sex is between two people that really love each other, and I'd hope she'd share her feelings so I could help her make better decisions.
We're very close. She's only 10, but because I was honest and open with her, and we sat down and talked, she was mature enough to understand I cared and loved her enough to tell her the truth. I believe she knows that she should trust her father.
I wanted to be pre-emptive before possible mistakes happen. Good communication is extremely important, and if their parents are off at the bar or in front of a TV, they are going to resent them.
As a libertarian, all I can do is spread common sense.
Everythings the business of moralfags.
I saw an article on it where a businessman was thrown into lockup for 4 hours for an anti gypsy email...that he didn't write.
Good God. The jailbait is more dangerous than we thought.
after reviewing the comments from that site and sancom...i feel sort of pissed off a bit. the peeps over at dailymail are soo unlinient....
Damn, you're right. These people suck pretty bad.
Neat. :l
Justice has been served!
this makes me wanna watch chu bra
*sigh*
No one should go to jail for consensual sex, age doesn't matter. Even the "51-week prison sentence suspended for two years" he got is too much. Stupid laws should be abolished.
Don't blame the man, blame that girl.
All Hail Britannia!
Haha, you guys should see the total opposite responses on the other site, Daily Mail.
Those people may say what ever they want.
The judge decided what she did and it's not up to peoples opinnions.
A judges decision is above all and no one can speak against it,since only the judges final decision matters.
Nah, we speak against decisions all the time around here :p
Fail is all over the place there.
she kept the condom as a trophy...
i see a bright future.
Finally, a case with a very reasonable judge willing to assess this case from various angles.
From what I can see here is that both parties are to blame, and I agree wholeheartedly that the man should be responsible for his actions in making sure she is of the legal age, although I still do not condone sex out of wedlock anyway.
The girl of course needs to receive counselling and psychological attention as soon as possible. It is a troubling trend of younger teenagers getting more and more precocious each year, especially with the existence of the uncensored internet, and at least this judge acknowledges it.
In some rare instances it is not just the man to blame, but it is also on the part of the girl's parents as well, for not keeping her under control. Because of this case, we can't live in denial that teens can't be precocious. That is why we now have to approach this new issue with tact. The culture is changing, now we just have to focus on keeping these men from engaging in illegal sex, as well as keeping these teens under strict guidance.
>although I still do not condone sex out of wedlock anyway.
Thanks for putting this in near the start so we know that you're an idiot who doesn't need to be listened to.
Makes sense to me, she provided the condom and kept it, clearly conspiratorial.
Woowwww .. http://www.evdenevenakliyatl.com
Go judge!
Okay, respect for the judge for not putting all the blame on the older person, but to be honest, I think this is one of those cases where it's painfully clear to me why legally the blame is most often put on the adult, mainly the abuse of the innocence or ignorance (I'm not sure if it's the correct word, English is not my native language) of minors. Sorry, I'm not a close minded person, but seriously? "Sexual time-bomb"? They took that as a DECENT excuse? And 13 is under no condition a good age to begin having sex, because you're simply not mature enough at that age to handle something as important as sex. Anyone who disagrees with me... You remember when you were thirteen right? If you think you had enough knowledge of sex back then, you probably still don't right now.
And this quote: "You too in a sense, are vulnerable as you are a simple man."
WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
What kind of a reason to let someone get away with something is that? I'll remember that when I rape someone. "But I was vulnerable, since I'm a man, and she gave me a boner. I had no choice but to rape her."
I mean, I'm not saying this guy should get thirty years, but suspended one-year is WAY too little.
Also, activating flame shields.
what a lucky bastard, me want too... >.<
Best
Judge
Ever
Why dont we have more of these?
Wooowwww .. very nice post .. http://www.evdenevenakliyatl.com
how they've known about that? girl said or what?
I'm SHOCKED that any judge was this reasonable. I would love to think this would set precedent for future cases like this, but I know damn well it wont ( and that's the sad part).
On another note though: Condom trophies? Wow...this loli is a predator...o_o;
great job!! its about time this stuff started to change.
Seeing some ratings pop up all of a sudden, I think Sancon was EN/DailyMail hijacked.
lol you should go look at the comments made there, I left this one so I bet I'm going to get flammed a lot:
13 is not a child and at that age people is able to do a rational thinking unless is retard, or got a lame education which seems to be the case. The girl is alcoholic, premature and is not the first time she go behind older men and probably not the first time she have sex with one. Also, girls develop fast and she probably look older. I got my boobs at 9 and hips/waist looks exactly the same that when I was 12, I even have the same heigh.
But no, men are always guilty for looking over little flowers, a sexual girl is unbelievable, obviously he perverted her... Go study concepts like puberty, adolescence, hormones and feelings. I wonder how you will answer if this was a 13 years BOY and 41 years WOMAN. Btw in medicine over 12 years isn't pedophile.
Because law can't be ignored is ok to put the man in jail, but the girl should be taken off her parents and put in psychiatric guidance and also give the parents a sentence. Seriously some people should be forbidden to have kids.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241635/Soldier-41-sex-girl-13-spared-jail-woman-judge-says-did-running.html#comments#ixzz0cGNPLLLB
I can't believe any military would keep someone stupid enough to stay a private for 20+ years (that's long enough to get to Sargent Major...) on the payroll. In fact I can't even believe someone that incompetent could pass military entrance exams to begin with.
I'm pretty sure in the US the phrase "administrative discharge" would have come up a long, long time ago.
This case was handled with common sense probably because it happened outside the US. I think sankaku has been posting too many of these 20-30 year sentences for pedophilia that viewers here think it's the norm, whereas these draconian laws only apply in the states.
yay~
"you...are vulnerable as you are a simple man"
By "simple", does the judge mean "retarded"?
how on earth does someone remains a private for over 20 years without being discharged etc? That guy must either be borderline retarded or a genius in avoiding detection....
...From the sounds of it he was borderline retarded. I mean, 22 years in the military and still a private...
That's obviously why the judge ruled how she ruled. Most judges wouldn't care about that fact either, that's what makes the verdict win.
Well, the loli for once is the agressive one...lol..
First time I've heard stupidity being allowed for actual defense...lol..
Not so much stupidity as obvious mental retardation, which is considered as "reduced capacity" in law. It's not so much a defense in and of itself, but it does mean that certain legal tests would necessarily fail. For example, a person with sufficiently reduced capacity cannot give legal consent, can not determine the difference between right and wrong, and a slew of other things. In this case, the judge ruled that, due to his diminished capacity, he really had no idea what he was doing, so he couldn't really be liable for it, at least not completely.
It all depends on how hot or ugly the loli was.
No hot 3D loli would have sex with a 40 year old who isn't a millionaire or beyond. No doubt this 3D loli was pig disgusting.
Does that mean if I'm a millionaire I can have all the loli I want?
Yes. Being muslim in a muslim country also vastly helps with that.
*Salutes*
*salutes alongside unellmay02*
Finally, a halfway decent ruling on such an issue in AmeriKKKa. 13 is not some baby in a crib, it's an age a lot of women used to get married at. There's maturity and maturity. She essentially bonked Beetle Bailey or perhaps Zero...
Strange thing is, I didn't think the military let any "Career Privates" stay any longer. Thought they had a pretty strict goal of "Promotion Points" and then just "Honorably discharged" those who couldn't keep up but didn't have any good reason to kick out.
hate to break it to you, but this didn't happen in America. lol
and it was a woman judge too, crazy
seems like none of the commenters at the daily mail likes this verdict though
Well what do you expect? It's the Daily Mail. They'd bitch over anything.
How appropriate. A military man "defusing" the "time-bomb."
its rare to see here a judge doing his job right. kinda glad to see the veredict
edit: reading that the judge was a woman then wow :P, what would do our "friends" of equality now! ? they may be end crying on their houses >.>
What amused me even more about this case is that the judge is female, which makes this sentence more surprising to me.
Also, from the source:
"Falklands veteran Thomson"
"Falklands"
He's a 41 year old Falklands veteran. That means he was 13 during the Falklands War.
Nice journalism, Daily Mail.
Or it could be he served 10 years of patrol at a Falklands military base or embassy.
LOL sexual time-bomb
you creepy veteran don't touch the young 3D girlie.
i will show you some good 2D girls !!!!!
Who would have thought? A judge with some sense. That's....rare.
I honestly dont care as long as noone is going to jail,
noone is branded a sex offender
and it's 100% sure that this wasnt rape.
Oh, I'm pretty sure he'll be branded a sex offender. That's kind of plain from the fact that the judge ordered he be banned from teaching any girls under 16.
Technically it's rape (statutory). And yes, the poor sap will be a registered sex offender. With that kind of conviction on his record? o_0
a most interesting result, its nice to see the guy not shot in this case as he was not entirely at fault.
yeah he was at fault , people have no morals