Square Enix: “Final Fantasy May Be Developed In The West”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jan 6, 2010 23:36 JST
- Tags: Eidos, Final Fantasy, PS3, RPG, Square Enix
Square Enix President Yoichi Wada has suggested there is a chance that the blockbuster Final Fantasy series, to many the quintessential JRPG, might be developed outside Japan.
Speaking to Edge, he admitted even Final Fantasy might be developed overseas:
“There is always a possibility that Final Fantasy could be produced with the input of our Western developers [i.e. Eidos], overseen by our Japanese developers.”
With possible development being “overseen” by Japanese developers, a Gears of Final Fantasy style direction at least sounds unlikely.
He also circumspectly hinted that some of the company’s other properties might be developed outside Square:
“That is one of the possible paths, but it’s not something that we would shift completely over to.”
Doubtless the overseas performance of Final Fantasy XIII will have some bearing on these decisions.
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As long as the style remains it does not matter, just like how anime are being produced outside of japan in reality. It might even be beneficial code wise.
But that possibility might just make things a little more interesting (in a good or bad sense)...
I just want to see another 2D FF game. Going 3d has killed the series to me. Yay we have awesome graphics! Lets over use those and FUCK UP THE STORY! The only 2 instances of this that I don't count are 7, and 9. 10 DID count until X-2 that horrible piece of retardation came out.
Or maybe a FF tactics game more in line with the PS version. I'm not really happy with the advance ones.
i actually thought 8 had a good story too. that is until disc 3 and then i was like "wtf? why are they in space? why did squall just jump out of a moving escape pod? how is he not being hurled into the depths of space at the speed that the escape pod was moving? its like he just casually walked out of the pod...why does this story suck so much now?! what is this?! i dont even.."
and yes, i was able to forgive the orphanage scene...
What anime being produced outside Nihon?
Macross Frontier had some episodes produced in South Korea, if my memory serves me right... Many others too, but they don't give proper credit to outsourcing studios.
Many programs make widespread use of Korean staff (for example), for a variety of reasons.
Yeah, it's cheaper to do it in Korea than Japan.
^Same anon. I also like your banner picture Artefact.
Same reason as why the simpsons is animated in korea also
Co development will just bring in additional ideas which will make the game more global. Not a biased Japanese RPG or a MS RPG.
MS RPG... *ting ting* I see you're trying to slay monsters. Do you need help with that?
STFU Clippy!! Arrgh! See what you made me do!! *sigh Okay, finish these guys off.. I'll make some popcorn.
Yeah, I'm in for co-development on the code, it would so much expand the capabilities of the game. Story-wise, I'm not so sure, but I would still like it to stick the Japanese style which gave it success even how linear it was...
You mean the first 7. ESPECIALLY 7.
I hope this won't lead to more multi platform screw ups.
What kind of games could result from this is an interesting thought. (Master Chief summons Bahamut)
how about we make them like the first 6, actually GOOD
Except that FF14 is an mmo.
Forget 7, 6 was the pinnacle. End of Story.
To me It'd just mean that FF14 would be a 5h long CG with game elements including "casual player" oriented simplifications making it "accesible" for everyone with IQs of a moderately clever chimp and above. Generally, the FF is dead.
Actually, they have already done that before. GRIN was working on a new Final Fantasy XII spinoff. Square-Enix took them off the job and are continuing it. They didn't pay GRIN, so they effectively caused them to shut down.
excuses excuses thats all it is.. trying to blame tastes are different if it sells differently here in the states.. thats just bull.
I'm not trying to make excuses though or blame different tastes, it never even occurred to me about that it was about it, I was mainly pointing out that the original feel of the game would be much preferable in my opinion.
I agree with Ichiro, I myself haven't played any of the more popular final fantasy games and such albeit has piqued my interest on a number of occasions.
I understand what the Final Fantasy franchise is to a lot of people and feel that it might very well be beneficial to bring in other developers in the development of future Final Fantasy games.
I am rather curious at the thought of how the story would progress if and when this happens. As far as I can tell from Final Fantasy XIII, the graphics and such are enough to make anyone drool (save for a few bugs) but the story was extremely linear. Bring in BioWare or something to help broaden the story since they're game plots have always been fairly rich. After all those comments about JRPGs I can't help but wonder if they'd jump on the wagon at a chance at one of the most successful game franchises to date.
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Sorry if I sound like I'm babbling, I haven't slept in 56 hours and looking through this I can't really tell if what I'm saying makes any sense (;´ρ`) ｸﾞｯﾀﾘ
Go to sleep.
Good or bad, at this point it doesn't seem to matter. With the way things are going having something NEW being input seems to be a nice change of pace.
I'm all for this idea, but I sure as hell hope they leave all the art design to the Japanese staff. I'd also prefer it if they kept similar aspects of gameplay. After all, if I wanted to play western RPG's, I'd go pick up Dragon Age, Mass Effect, or games akin to World of Warcraft offline.
There's a reason they're considered separate genres. It's because the gameplay is fundamentally different from western RPG's.
I hope they remember what happen to silent hill?
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories is actually an extremely good game (if you ignore that it's nothing like the original).
(if you ignore that it's nothing like the original)
What???
Yea just what we need a damn FF FPS, pack up we are out of here.
He fucks her, one such action would make FF more commonplace as none will ever have been, simply watch the already mess of the west for the U.S. and EU version with horrible BO, Square Enix disappoint me a lot of thought has such an idea.
I don't get what this guy saying?, the team that made FF12 & 13 is still new.Give them SOME TIMES!Upgrade the battle system of FF12 so that u can change the characters when battle?Add more summons & limitbreaks.Improve storyline.That's it.
"Gears of Final Fantasy" would just look like Advent Children. Grey post-apocalyptic-fantasy-esque backdrops but with some doll-faces and silly hair thrown in.
bring back the original fun turn based battle system and the draw and junction that made final fantasy 8 great!
Also a better story too!
oh shit!! will we see serah with a big-ass gun or a marcus fenix RPG??
They let us customize our own lead character, problem sold.
So.....most hideous caveman protagonist like in Nier Gestalt?
FUCK NO!
Western input doesn't exactly mean produced by now, does it? In any way I can see it, input simply means suggestions, another viewpoint of it for them consider.
In any case, I think a western made FF would hardly be a FF at all, simply due to western game philosophy vs eastern.
"here is always a possibility that Final Fantasy could be produced with the input of our Western developers [i.e. Eidos], overseen by our Japanese developers"
Quote From Above.. Produced With Input..
Ｗｅｓｔｅｒｎ ｐｒｏｄｕｃｅｄ Ｉ ｍｅａｎ， ａ ｂｉｔ ｔｉｒｅｄ ＞＿＜
Square Enix bought Eidos, so this was the logical decision. You know, to use one of the subsidiaries they acquired.
meh i could care less where they do development. I would like to see some new Legacy of Kain games possibly developed. Can only dream though
As long as they kept the sexual innuendo and raunchy outfits intact, I do not mind...
On that matter, please bloody fucking release Nier: Replicant for the USA!!!
I need my demon-possessed tsundere futanari...
protip: ff died the second sakamoustachesensei left the building.
Maybe getting some fresh blood in Final Fantasy will help it out a lot, the game has become far too stale.. hopefully they'll remake FF13..
Speaking of FF13, what's Lightening saying in that picture anyway??
Yes! Maybe we'll get some more respectable kick ass male leads this time, not the effeminate stoic-faced kind.
Or some kickass female leads, not some effeminate stoic-faced kind!
There are no female leads in the US, lol.
Well I'm not sure about that, but there should be!
This is a reply for knuclear200x's comment above, don't know why it had been put down here..
Finally, no more emo girly boys.
Expect the main hero to be someone gar like Gordon Freeman from Half life vs a girlie boy.
US FF7 Cid would have been the main character.
Oh and no moe lead females instead lead female is someone like Lara Croft.
Villains would be secret branch of government taken over by aliens or some mega corporation.
Ok that won't change much but the villains would no longer be emo and instead would be megalomaniacs.
SE is involved into supcome someway (forgot how). Will i see emo mechs with half-planet swords? I hope it will happen! jRTS = O
inb4 space marines/medieval bulky men in heavy armor as heroes.
An FF with real men as main characters, soon? In MY FINAL FANTASY!? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!111!!oneone!!!
Why do you only post shitty Sheryl pics.
Aren't official art enough for you?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3963/lollk.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1661/948160337b5b636eac4b5f4.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/912/a428b5f302609ce60b46e06.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6263/lolst.jpg
Replace them right now! :D
P/S : This is worthy of fapping.
That is the cutest chubby chibi I ever saw
Final Fantasy in Bethesda style sounds nice.
I'm going to make a shirt of this and piss off the Die-hard FF fans at my local Gamestop...
Take it Easy~
Well since FF has been sucking on and off since 8 and more since 10 its not going to hurt anything...
Another stupid post?
FUCK YEAH RAZIEL!!!!!!!
I heard that the now-defunct GRIN company (which makes PC port of Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, remakes Bionic Commando NES into 7th generation graphical presentation as Bionic Commando Rearmed, makes the sequel of Bionic Commando, and makes a game based on the movie Wanted) develops a Final Fantasy XII-based spinoff shortly before it out of fund.
I would like to see what if Bethesda (of The Elder Scrolls and Fallout 3 fame) or Bioware (of Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, and many expert WRPG fame) gets an hand of Final Fantasy.
=/ why does this feel like a "pass the buck" kind of comment?
OMG I SENSE FPS VERSION OF FF
bad idea cuz FF always been JP style and i would'nt get it if these fags steped in cuz they make shitty games
This = FAIL
hell no! or they make a chars that looks like a hulk male or female!!
Expect Chatwin-look-a-like main hero...?
Final Fantasy Evolution?
uh ...EIDOS??
i am serously wish it was bioware or other that create RPG, what will japan maniac will say about this ? Will they considered outsourcing to west is betrayal to country?
Amen to that. If they outsourced it to one of the better western developers I would be shitting bricks right now. Bethesda would have a field day with this.
So instead of ambiguously gay pretty boys we'll have testosterone pumped homoerotic sweaty space marines?
I don't know if you know but the value of manly is different in japan...
For japanese people, the Gears of War IS gay.
More correctly, muscular men = womens don't like it = gay.
Take for example, this game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cho_Aniki
Here, Kiras (Death Note one and Gundan seed one) looks gay (despite the two fucked delicious girls) but at eyes of fujoshi, they are manlier and manlier than all GOW charas.
Hey, I could get into that.
Likely something inbetween, like ambiguously gay sweaty space marines with belts.
They've already done that with Front Mission Evolved, which is currently being made by Californian-based Double Helix Games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Mission_Evolved
Personally, as a Front Mission fan, even though this is not the first time that real-time combat was introduced to the Front Mission series (FM Alternative), the emphasis on run-and-gun action instead of turn-based strategy does dent my confidence in the game somewhat. Let's hope that it'll turn out at least decent when it's out on Spring 2010.
Another NieR surely if this were to happen. Meaning that the heroines would be the typical huge titted blondes and the main character some sort of an ogre. Needs som loli. :(
who cares where it was developed as long as their leaders is japanese.
who cares where they were developed as long as the leaders are japanese.
Depends on what team works on it:
Final Fantasy is essentially a video game inspired by "Western" fantasy, just with more fantastic and technological elements in it than most earlier writers had dared/wanted to include. But at the other end it seems stuck in a rut, imitating off of itself.
Handing over development to a "Western" team could be either the best or the worst move they'd ever made. Our "Corporate PC" culture would produce something so cruddy as to be unwatchable, it'd hurt the sanity of Cthulhu to look at it. On the other hand, we have tons of talented writers and artists that could give a much needed "Edge" to it and create something innovative.
It'd be quite a challenge, but at the same time a wonderful opportunity. What could be included, what could be trashed or transcended?
I've made some proposals, here and elsewhere, for games I'd like to see a big company take a shot at. For instance, they should look at Jackson and Livingstone's "Fighting Fantasy" games. The books. The "Programs" you had the human mind run back in the day. Those were very entertaining, challenging adventure books. If you gave yourself a "Ultra" character and just fought everything you encountered you'd end up dead anyways... Heh, I know, I made a computer program to automate the battles;-) The illustrations in them were very enchanting, and they were entertaining in a way that you wanted to play again and again despite the limited format of text on paper.
What they could do is instead of "3D" make it "2D" but in a way that uses a 3D engine's capability. Animate in a way that looks like a "Bob Pepper" painting (the cover for Atari 2600 "Adventure") with strong fairytale elements. (not imitation, but feel and texture)
I've said here several times, on a different tangent I think a real good game would be "Littlewitch Romanesque Adventure" where they take the art style, perhaps use the same team for Princess Crown, Odin Sphere, Musamasa and make a huge 2.5 D world. It can be the same or similar story, two young witches going to a magical school, the "suck wind from Harry Potter's sails" beginning. But I'd let other characters be played, even at will within the same "campaign" so to speak and just make so many areas to go to, things to interact with, that it feels like an immersive cartoon world.
I'd make sure it got released in the states and turn down the "Lolita Hentai" element, but keep the "Lolita" element, though there'd be plenty of "Sexy" from the older and more developed looking ladies. It'd be a way of pounding a nail in the coffin of "Equality Now" and other "Modern women who seek to destroy men" by wedging in "Loli Ecchi" in a way not worth it to political figures to challenge, but since it'd be directly associated with a very well done but otherwise taboo piece of work they'd ban in a second, it'd force the door open for other stuff. Not a "Flood of Loli Hentai" but a "Wave of similar titles" that would make it more accepted for 2D erotica and any laws they tried later to enforce would be thrown out.
Hm. I guess the latest negs about FF XIII really did shake them a bit...
the world goes to the end . . .
would be a weeaboo monstrosity
OMG~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maybe that's why FFXIII was so shitty and liner, it may have had input from shitty western game developers...
Not likely, considering western RPGs are more akin to old-school D&D than "Mario with stats".
And with the recent FF iterations, so much emphasis has been placed on the "systems" that story has almost been entirely ignored.
I bet you haven't even played it, let alone understood it
typical trolling tosser
Japan is definitely superior amirite? Fuck man, in my opinion I could care less where games like these are made from. As long as they produced with passion and hardwork where it's made doesn't mean shit.
HELL NO !!
If the Japanese developers monitor the Western developers, then I see a lot of potential out of this.
NO !!!
Wada is a fucking idiot and should just die.
He's fucking up everything good about Square.
And talk is cheap.
Maybe there is hope for the Final Fantasy series after all.
Omoshiroi...
Developing code-wise is a good thing but if SE will also bring the story telling overseas then FF might lose its soul.
actually, im kinda scared about this...
not saying that western developers are worst or anything but when i think a third party is putting a finger where art is created i fear for the franchise...
on the other hand, new place, new ideas, thats for sure. Perhaps it could really be beneficial for FF to have new horizons...i really dont know...
It wouldn't be failed it they teamed up with bio-ware
giving a great game and story with Japanese visuals. having the option of english and japanese voices
Japanese stories are a little fishy :] . I want a final fantasy with baldurs gate or mass effect mechanics and more western story :] with some mix of japanese and western art . Becouse im bored of looking on a big robots looking the same in every games ,or character designs :].
i sense a fail
you are fail