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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-517214</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bizarrely enough, I thoroughly enjoyed Lucky Star and K-On! and thought that Azumanga Diaoh was way too childish...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bizarrely enough, I thoroughly enjoyed Lucky Star and K-On! and thought that Azumanga Diaoh was way too childish...</p>
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		<title>By: mtallmen_184</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-440237</link>
		<dc:creator>mtallmen_184</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ritsu Awesome Face]]></description>
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		<title>By: shuu-chan</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-394105</link>
		<dc:creator>shuu-chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yui creeps me out... azusa is fine though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yui creeps me out... azusa is fine though</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-394063</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[true]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-394017</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m anon from 22:35 and i agree with above anon but i wasn&#039;t even referring to the above picture, which may or may not be fitting. I&#039;m not a nostalgiafaggot or so you are too: You can&#039;t deny the fact that something is lost since they don&#039;t use cels anymore. EVERYONE says that if they were born before &#039;85. this has nothing to do with nostalgiafaggotry at all, it&#039;s just that a lot of kids those days can&#039;t or won&#039;t appreciate aome nice handycraft and are happy with their factory-produced anime where too often one chara looks exactly like the other. Of course some anime where mocked to use &quot;stencils&quot; even back then but there just were more diversity than today. Look at Lina Inverse, Gundam, Record of Lodoss War...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm anon from 22:35 and i agree with above anon but i wasn't even referring to the above picture, which may or may not be fitting. I'm not a nostalgiafaggot or so you are too: You can't deny the fact that something is lost since they don't use cels anymore. EVERYONE says that if they were born before '85. this has nothing to do with nostalgiafaggotry at all, it's just that a lot of kids those days can't or won't appreciate aome nice handycraft and are happy with their factory-produced anime where too often one chara looks exactly like the other. Of course some anime where mocked to use "stencils" even back then but there just were more diversity than today. Look at Lina Inverse, Gundam, Record of Lodoss War...</p>
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		<title>By: Jakuryusei</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakuryusei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah I was thinking of old manga like that but I couldn&#039;t put my finger on it! It&#039;s kinda interesting how the art techniques have evolved for anime and manga over the years, they started rather similar, but now not so much so.

Admittedly though that was not my first thought. I was INSTANTLY reminded of Outlaw Star when I saw this. 

Now that was a cool art style!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah I was thinking of old manga like that but I couldn't put my finger on it! It's kinda interesting how the art techniques have evolved for anime and manga over the years, they started rather similar, but now not so much so.</p>
<p>Admittedly though that was not my first thought. I was INSTANTLY reminded of Outlaw Star when I saw this. </p>
<p>Now that was a cool art style!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393865</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like 80s not 90s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like 80s not 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393777</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you can appreciate vintage anime: you are a faggot; and a POSER. Any real anime fan can enjoy anime regardless of the year it was made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can appreciate vintage anime: you are a faggot; and a POSER. Any real anime fan can enjoy anime regardless of the year it was made.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393738</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People who can&#039;t fap to 2D characters have something wrong with their brains...

EPIC TRUTH from Madarame...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who can't fap to 2D characters have something wrong with their brains...</p>
<p>EPIC TRUTH from Madarame...</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393729</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t like very much that style, i&#039;ll take the modern style]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don't like very much that style, i'll take the modern style</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393677</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like Slayers to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Slayers to me.</p>
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		<title>By: MaidNiac</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393658</link>
		<dc:creator>MaidNiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do roughly drawn strokes on the cheeks and inconsistent faces make them equals to detailed? I think and bet not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do roughly drawn strokes on the cheeks and inconsistent faces make them equals to detailed? I think and bet not.</p>
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		<title>By: MaidNiac</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393647</link>
		<dc:creator>MaidNiac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True that, the narrow foreheads are really turn-off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True that, the narrow foreheads are really turn-off.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393586</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they were really drawn in a nineties style they would have looked good but that picture looks like crap.  They failed at making them into a nineties style drawing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they were really drawn in a nineties style they would have looked good but that picture looks like crap.  They failed at making them into a nineties style drawing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393565</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;You are implying that actual shading and lines is not better? 

&gt;I&#039;m sorry, but moeblobs are just lazy looking. Like the artist was too skittish to finish the work himself and he&#039;s just leaving it for the fans to finish. Buncha bullshit.

&gt;Make me some real art, like they used to.

Except this isn&#039;t representative of 90s style. As I said in my earlier post, the likes of Sailor Moon, Urusei Yatsura, and Ranma were. Most anime had the same approach as it is now (except for those 10 second detailed reaction faces that older action anime did a lot or some OVAs), and it didn&#039;t look anywhere near as good. When you compare TV anime especially, and even many OVAs and movies to many now, it&#039;s not close. Compare Minky Momo to Shugo Chara, Ranma 1/2 to Inuyasha 09 (comparing them since they&#039;re both Takahashi), Dragonball to One Piece and Dragon Ball Kai; The Getter Robos and GaoGaiGar to Gurren Lagann, GaoGaiGar Final, and New Getter Robo; Nausicaa and Kiki&#039;s Delivery Service to Howls Moving Castle and Spirited Away , Ghost in the Shell to Ghost in the Shell Innocence. The list can go on. What about the rage of style and animation (and the amount of animation) we have now? You would never see something like FLCL/Gurren Lagann/Dead Leaves, Mononoke, Mind Game, or Dennou Coil in the 80s. The problem with nostalgiafag arguments is that it is ALWAYS full of cherrypicking. They carefully select movies and OVAs, or screenshots from an anime and treat it as if it&#039;s representative of the anime and era.

 And no, shading lines does not mean superior. At the end of the day if you&#039;re lineart and coloring isn&#039;t good it doesn&#039;t matter how good your shading is anyway. This is just a style in itself (look at the Macross OVAs for instance which really pulled it off), which you use depending on the style you&#039;re going for. Anime--no--just art in general has pretty much always been this way. You don&#039;t want a cute light hearted slice of life anime like K-ON, Lucky Star, or Azumanga Daioh to have heavy shading. You put heavy shading in an anime like Hellsing.

Cel animation is what I really loved about older anime art. At it&#039;s best, it&#039;s absolutely beautiful and digital animation hasn&#039;t been able to reproduce it&#039;s type of beauty yet. However, digital animation allows studios to  produce high quality art even on smaller budgets (see SHAFT anime), and there is a lot more range of animation and art styles. 

I am fine with someone liking older anime art, but not when it is based on blatant nostalgiafaggotry/cherrypicking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;You are implying that actual shading and lines is not better? </p>
<p>&gt;I'm sorry, but moeblobs are just lazy looking. Like the artist was too skittish to finish the work himself and he's just leaving it for the fans to finish. Buncha bullshit.</p>
<p>&gt;Make me some real art, like they used to.</p>
<p>Except this isn't representative of 90s style. As I said in my earlier post, the likes of Sailor Moon, Urusei Yatsura, and Ranma were. Most anime had the same approach as it is now (except for those 10 second detailed reaction faces that older action anime did a lot or some OVAs), and it didn't look anywhere near as good. When you compare TV anime especially, and even many OVAs and movies to many now, it's not close. Compare Minky Momo to Shugo Chara, Ranma 1/2 to Inuyasha 09 (comparing them since they're both Takahashi), Dragonball to One Piece and Dragon Ball Kai; The Getter Robos and GaoGaiGar to Gurren Lagann, GaoGaiGar Final, and New Getter Robo; Nausicaa and Kiki's Delivery Service to Howls Moving Castle and Spirited Away , Ghost in the Shell to Ghost in the Shell Innocence. The list can go on. What about the rage of style and animation (and the amount of animation) we have now? You would never see something like FLCL/Gurren Lagann/Dead Leaves, Mononoke, Mind Game, or Dennou Coil in the 80s. The problem with nostalgiafag arguments is that it is ALWAYS full of cherrypicking. They carefully select movies and OVAs, or screenshots from an anime and treat it as if it's representative of the anime and era.</p>
<p> And no, shading lines does not mean superior. At the end of the day if you're lineart and coloring isn't good it doesn't matter how good your shading is anyway. This is just a style in itself (look at the Macross OVAs for instance which really pulled it off), which you use depending on the style you're going for. Anime--no--just art in general has pretty much always been this way. You don't want a cute light hearted slice of life anime like K-ON, Lucky Star, or Azumanga Daioh to have heavy shading. You put heavy shading in an anime like Hellsing.</p>
<p>Cel animation is what I really loved about older anime art. At it's best, it's absolutely beautiful and digital animation hasn't been able to reproduce it's type of beauty yet. However, digital animation allows studios to  produce high quality art even on smaller budgets (see SHAFT anime), and there is a lot more range of animation and art styles. </p>
<p>I am fine with someone liking older anime art, but not when it is based on blatant nostalgiafaggotry/cherrypicking.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, it&#039;s not bad, but it just doesn&#039;t feel right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, it's not bad, but it just doesn't feel right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393509</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but but but this was moe back in the 90s!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but but but this was moe back in the 90s!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393476</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[90&#039;s anime was awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90's anime was awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylar</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393473</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes i am. More doesn&#039;t always mean better. That more must be properly put in the image to look better and that&#039;s not the case here. Also some things need a simpler look for what they want to show. You can&#039;t make moe anime with very detail shading and lot&#039;s of other staff because the pic will become too serious and realistic. 
You can even draw animation with each frame having the art style of Mona Lisa but it won&#039;t be anime anymore, it would be something else no matter how well detailed it would be and lot&#039;s of us won&#039;t like it.  
If what you hate is moe in general then it&#039;s not the 21st century art that you hate but moe anime. Just watch something else like Texhnolyze, Hellsing or something else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i am. More doesn't always mean better. That more must be properly put in the image to look better and that's not the case here. Also some things need a simpler look for what they want to show. You can't make moe anime with very detail shading and lot's of other staff because the pic will become too serious and realistic.<br />
You can even draw animation with each frame having the art style of Mona Lisa but it won't be anime anymore, it would be something else no matter how well detailed it would be and lot's of us won't like it.<br />
If what you hate is moe in general then it's not the 21st century art that you hate but moe anime. Just watch something else like Texhnolyze, Hellsing or something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393419</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are implying that actual shading and lines is not better? 

I&#039;m sorry, but moeblobs are just lazy looking. Like the artist was too skittish to finish the work himself and he&#039;s just leaving it for the fans to finish. Buncha bullshit. 

Make me some real art, like they used to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are implying that actual shading and lines is not better? </p>
<p>I'm sorry, but moeblobs are just lazy looking. Like the artist was too skittish to finish the work himself and he's just leaving it for the fans to finish. Buncha bullshit. </p>
<p>Make me some real art, like they used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393411</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yui and riko fail! everyone else is pretty gudd!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yui and riko fail! everyone else is pretty gudd!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393388</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, how it should be?
It should be more like Marvel-DC like?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how it should be?<br />
It should be more like Marvel-DC like?</p>
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		<title>By: Pandemonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandemonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my only complaint is that she has boobs there]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only complaint is that she has boobs there</p>
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		<title>By: Pandemonia</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/26/i-made-azunyan-into-a-nineties-character/#comment-393382</link>
		<dc:creator>Pandemonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it can be used as plural then it&#039;s fair to say it&#039;s plural. Animes, on the other hand, just sounds fucking retarded.

Also cocks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it can be used as plural then it's fair to say it's plural. Animes, on the other hand, just sounds fucking retarded.</p>
<p>Also cocks</p>
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