Equality Now: “Games Are Extreme Pornography”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Dec 18, 2009 02:23 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Illusion, Mass Media, UK
“Videogames are not art. They are extreme pornography,” rants the UK leader of Equality Now in response to the notion that adult themes should be allowed in games.
Evidently still not done ignoring the plight of women under Islam in favour of promoting obscure titles such as Rapelay, Equality Now’s London head Jacqueline Hunt launches into the kind of moralist tirade which has already seen most fetish pornography banned in the UK, this time writing for a top leftist rag:
My organisation, Equality Now, has heard a lot from the fans of some of these games.
We highlighted the game RapeLay, produced in Japan, as one example of many that promote violence against women. In RapeLay the player manipulates an onscreen penis to simulate rape of a woman and her young daughters over and over again.
Our international campaign called on the Japanese government to ban games that promote sexual violence against women and girls. Fans of these games were outraged.
They asked us why we were targeting RapeLay when, they said, it was mild compared to similar available games. In Japan there is a whole genre of extreme pornography, known as hentai, which takes in cartoons and comic books as well as videogames. Imagery includes women and girls being molested, stalked and gang-raped.
We received hundreds of emails from around the world, many calling for our own rape and murder. “By the way, I played RapeLay (doing the 13-year-old was best)”, said one, referring to the pre-pubescent girl whom players “rape” in the game.
Incidentally, the individual responsible for the now widely quoted “doing the 13-year-old was best” quip was a Sankaku Complex reader who privately admitted he was merely trolling – a complete ignorance of even the basics of Internet culture on the part of Equality Now (perhaps not surprising considering their inability to accept any culture other than that of their own moral hysteria) seems to have caused them a great deal of trouble recently when they were caught lying about misquoted Sankaku Complex comments.
… If games such as RapeLay can now be classified as art, maybe the popular media promotion of sexual violence against women is so normalised that we don’t even pay attention any more. Does “killing” a prostituted woman in Grand Theft Auto just reconfirm to a gamer the “lesser value” of women in prostitution generally?
Certainly the UN’s women’s committee believes that gender stereotypes, including those of women as sex objects, and gender-based discriminatory attitudes, contribute to violence against women.
Will the players of RapeLay act on their threats towards us? It’s just a game, don’t threaten our free speech, say the fans who tell us to shut up or else.
Ironic words indeed, coming from the very people actively trying to force police in other countries to lock people up for exercising their own freedom of expression.
The inconvenient truth that sexual violence against women (for that matter, any kind of violence against anyone) is rare in Japan, and vigorously prosecuted when it does occur, whilst many western nations enjoy rates of all kinds of crime several orders of magnitude above those in Japan, seems to be something no feminist dares address.
Instead it appears they prefer the security of appeals to emotion and ignorance, which it seems groups such as Equality Now are in no short supply of…
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That bitch needs a little bit of prospectivity.. Let's revoke her UK citizenship and ship her down to iran or somalia with 100 Rials or Shillings. Be sure to embed a few dozen gps tracking chips all over her body -since she Will no doubt lose a few limbs- so we can find her again a year later.
After "freeing" her from slavery, forced working crews or a local raghead pimp or all of the above. Carrying her stumped filled body back to the UK on a -Temporary passport-. We will then ask her about her opinions about FAKE DIGITAL REAPINGS again...
I'd love to know about her opinions then.
After the screaming mad rants and gurglings, we put her on another boat (with a ragead name on it!) with a randomly picked port with a yen shoved up her ass.
we are all against real life rape,so stop raping our rights,freedom of speech and japans country with all your dirty misinformed minds.
Stop raping japanese culture.
So are they saying standard porn can be considered art? If so lets take a look at what it takes to make a porn film.
At least 1 actor, a camera and $20 - $100 per actor, males are usually paid less(fact), and a director.
Now how the hell is that art? I have never seen a porno actor with an ounce of talent EVER. And stories, good god I have never seen worst stories in my life.
Now I'm not saying their all like this, far from it. But how much longer does it take to make a hentai? Well the production team are usually on a very tight budget, depending on the length of hentai could take months if not longer(same deal with H-Games).
My point is, if they could consider regular porn as art which takes very little effort, then why not hentai? If they consider neither as art and purely for self-gratification what the hell is wrong with that?
As a lot of us already know, they wont go after porn because it's so mainstream and their is no way they could ever bring a hard hit to it. But hentai sales are mainly focused in japan and it's finally making more of a mainstream appearance in other countries.
Equality Now's amount of double standards are disgusting, you make up facts, you lie and cheat, I question if your presence has a point at all. But no you run around crying because of these imaginary people being victims. If you place such high priority on imaginary people, visit the mental ward, their are lots of imaginary people you can help there.
I am an adult, I choose what is appropriate for me not some deceptive tool who holds a higher priority over imaginary people rather than REAL people who are actually suffering as we speak. It's time to grow up and fix your priorities or get lost.
To those sitting on the fence saying "Oh, they're only going after the most extreme hentai that I don't read/watch, so it doesn't matter," this should be your wakeup call.
They did not single out a single genre or only extreme hentai, they are calling for ALL hentai to be banned.
And you can bet there will be spillover into softer ecchi anime and manga as well. I'm sure there are some that consider any nudity/pantie flash/implied sex to be porn or 'hentai'.
Also, dojinski will likely suffer as well, which is where a lot of managaka and anime makers start. That will affect the talent pool leading to a decrease in quality and quantity of anime and manga in the future.
Female anime/manga fans also should speak up to let equality now that they don't speak for all women or even a majority of women.
You'd think that the low crime rates would show Equality Now that the best defense against real crime is a fantasy that doesn't hurt anyone and that lets people safely rid themselves of any bad thoughts or emotions.
BANNING stuff doesn't make it go away, it just makes the banner feel good because it might be out of sight of their narrow bigoted world view. But it will still be there and simmer and get even more extreme and cause more problems than it just being available. Ban hentai and you'll see a sharp spike in crime in Japan. WIll Equality Now apologize to all the victums and pay for their suffering and pay Japan to prosecute the perps? I doubt it.
Remember that the USA banned alcohol a long time ago and that created large organized crime mobs that persist to this day. Yeah, that was a good idea. :/
The fools who ignore history are doomed to repeat it and screw up the world for everyone.
And that is why they aren't going to succeed... most of the lawmakers in Japan have privately told these people to 'go to hell' and are just acting like they are kowtowing to their wants, but are really not doing anything.
More venom from "The Modern Women who seek to Destroy All Men"...
And I call it out, not as any attempt at all to "Protect Women and Girls" but a simple assault on men out of an "Antisex League/Millitant Lesbian" agenda for the destruction and slavery of men.
Women have went from feeling like "Second Class citizens" due to friction over them challenging traditional roles to "Untouchables" for the most part. Back in the 70s and earlier, they had to try twice as hard to be even accepted in non-traditional professional fields and did face 'sexist' attitudes. They had real stuff to B*tch about (no side slur intended) back then. Before that, they had few if any options, such as "Secretary" or "Laundress" etc. It was seen that a woman perhaps would work for a limited time, then find a husband who's single salary supported the family and they would devote their time to raising the children and emotionally supporting the husband. Women who worked, such as to pay the bills when the "Husband" was a "non-worker" often were fired and had to take off the wedding ring a their next job application...
Divorce laws were in place to account for even earlier times. If a man left his family, they would be in dire straights while he'd be able to re-establish himself easily otherwise.
The new laws are a combination of the worst of both systems. They make women far too powerful and this is combined with a "Man hating Lesbian" and "Eternally Victimized Women" agenda. At the same time the man is always considered the agressor and always the most burdened by any break up or even any interaction gone bad.
Women can openly threaten to use "Sexual Harassment" to get ahead at work. A cry of "Rape!" ruins a man's life, (if he was above McJobs) even if proven false. Drug addict women who blatantly cheated have gotten custody of the kids and alimony with false claims of molestation. Except to the very, very rich "Pre-Nuptial" contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
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i really don't understand the way EN think, why are these poor woman who is being abuse right now. The mindsets of EN is very closed minded i think. They have to see that there are more woman are being abuse in war torn country, the third world nation and so on.
Quite true.... men get a bad rap, but the fact is that the REPRESSION is usually being forced by women on other women... it isn't just the MEN who are forcing those 'repressive beliefs' on women.... it's other women too who have been BRAINWASHED into thinking that their imaginary 'god' wants them to live as virtual SLAVES to men.
OH GOD.
Don't they have something better to do?
What about you (Equ@lity n0w) start doing good things so you can be accepted in Heaven, rather than messing with others' lives. And I don't think what you are doing is a virtuous thing.
GTFO this world, eQu@liTy n0w bastards.
I must admit, I'm a feminist. However, I think people can do whatever they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone else. Jack off to all the porn you want, whether it's loli or slave women or whatever. As long as that doesn't carry into real life or lessen your view of women, it's not harmful. I myself enjoy shota, hentai, and yaoi. Feminism is about women being equal to men (though we've made great strides, we're not there yet), not about degrading men. These people make feminism look bad, because they're crotchety old women, probably religious.
EN is not composed of feminists, they are composed of femiNAZIS. Feminists were those cool women who fought for equal grounds and opportunities as men had; equality for all. These other... ladies that are the EN are spoiled brats who want to shove their agendas down people's throats.
I thought your kind were extinct!!!
My God, I have faith they can possibly return to sane, rational, normal people. You know, the kind we were raised to believe actually exist; and not a fairytale.
Okay, maybe not immediately, but seeing one that truly supports the original concept, and isn't a serial-castrating feminazi is a blessing to the eyes and the sack.
My a fellow democrat! Good one girl!
True! As long as you keep the trouble to yourself, no one has the right to trouble you....
Equality Now doesn't need to focus on Japan. Hentai and porn are things that people have because they don't want their libido's to suddenly take control of them whilst on the eyes of the public. If that disappears then men would have to do more drastic things to silence their libidos.
Seriously... Come on, Equality Now... There are many women out there who could do with your help. Your group's name "Equality Now" obviously serves to tell people that you want to strive for equality between the sexes. Forcing your opinion on the other is clearly for YOUR own freedom and not OUR freedom of speech.
In this current economic situation, instead of going on about pointless issues, why not use all available resources to provide aid to the people who are in need? I'm pretty sure there are lots of REAL women who are getting abused etc. If you're thinking that stopping such games is a step to nip the problem in the bud, you people have to think again.
Why do people play games? Usually for leisure, or to de-stress. I don't particularly see games as being harmful. If you don't let people unwind, sooner or later they are going to target REAL women, and the next victim could very well be you!
I also notice that Equality Now continuously highlights RapeLay. Does your group know how many Visual Novels are released every year? There are hundreds! Are you trying to say that all of those games are extreme pornography? Please look again. There are many good Visual Novels out there with clearly good art, and good storyline. Fans such as me appreciate such games. RapeLay is merely a single speck in the entire context of Visual Novels, or your so frequently used term "Adult themed games".
You know, this has probably already been said before but I think groups like this try to get games and stuff banned not because they feel that they are really threats to society, but that they know people will agree if they say explicit sexuality in games is bad. They know that they can get games like Rapelay banned so they will in order to feel like they accomplished something; If they tried to deal with the real issues in the world they would fail and they know it. None of this changes the fact that they are bitches who need to stop stifling art just because they don't like it.
DING DING DING! We have a winner, folks. Tommy_S, you hit the nail on the head.... if these idiots actually tried to do something about the repressive regimes in the Middle East and elsewhere, they would FAIL.... and they just want to feel 'good that we got rid of something we don't agree with'... even if it infringes on other people's rights to view or play whatever they want as long as they are not PHYSICALLY harming someone else without their permission.
First it was rapelay and Japanese ero games, but with this mention of GTA as an additional scapegoat; equality now's commentary has attacked mainstream video games.
The continued wrath of a million gamers will soon be upon them.
And what's next? Calling for a ban on Mario because princess peach re-enforces the stereotype that women are weak bitches that need to be saved by some prince in shining armor? bullshit.
Or banning Metroids for sending an imaginary kick-ass hightech heroine to clean up some Chozo mess....
Banning Ragnarok Online for not having female Minstrels/Clowns and are limited only to Dancers.....
Banning FF for multiple use of imaginary women in ridiculous and comedic instances lowering women's morale....
Banning Luna Online for having loli expose their underwear when the move around while they have wing items equipped....
Banning "Dept Heaven's Riviera: The Promised Land" for having imaginary women there killed just before the final battle....
Banning "Dept Yggdra Union: You'll Never Fight Alone" for massacre of all female game sprites and having the heroine expose herself while having a bath in an imaginary hidden oasis in the middle of an imaginary desert....
EN = TOTAL FAIL!
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This current system enshrines the woman as the vulnerable victim, but then encourages her to attack and destroy men. Any marriage is at a woman's mercy. One toilet seat left up too many and she can get the meat of the man's income, custody of the kids and more income, sleep around with non-producing 'toys' (usually criminal and non-white) and have fun while the man faces prison if he can't afford this, the state still pays her and adds interest to his fines.
I've lived this. I've seen every marriage of everyone I've known in my age group break up into a bitter divorce, with the woman getting the upper hand no matter what. It's the same formula, they meet in college, get married, the man works hard getting ahead, the lady feels dejected/dissatisfied and starts sleeping around. The divorce is bitter and ugly and the man loses every time.
So, what does a man do facing this?
Well, that's where "Gentelman's Tours" and "Mail Order Brides" came in. Not everything has gone bad, most notably the "Pointless Racism" of past decades. It's simple need/demand. If AmeriKKKan/EurNaziPean women aren't worth talking to, and hazardous to stick your dick into, but across the world there are lots of cute, demure women whom their culture DOES treat like trash... Decades past it would have been seen as desperation and/or Bestiality, but these days they look cute and exotic and immigration related marriage was a form of hard to break "Pre-Nup". I've known a few "Mail Order" brides and they are universally disgusted by how women behave here.
So the "Modern Women who seek to Destroy Men" have been attacking this. Calling all tours and marriages predatory. They want to MARRY the man, then divorce him and support a parasite non-working male off his labors. They don't want to be left with the parasite male who can't be 'sued' cause he has no money.
Japan, being a racist culture, didn't have this option even. Marrying even a Chinese or Korean would be scandalous, they might as well molest beasts. Most of the "Good" men spent their lives studying with little time for friends or socializing, just to "Get ahead" so that when they got married (Parents would select from girls/other families asking) they could provide. But they found the ladies going pro for real or wanting a social/very rich husband, but also displaying the worst of the "Women's Liberation" attitudes.
So they turned to fantasy itself. These men were left too shy often to even see prostitutes, much less try to socialize with women who only wanted "outlaw" types for sex, even if they themselves wanted to leech off a producing, working male.
And that is where we get down to this group and others like them. Their main focus is to:
1. End "Human Trafficking" meaning making going to Asia and getting a wife be equivalent to taking the "Snuff" option at a child providing illegal brothel.
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2. Criminalize all pornography, even 100% "Fake" pornography.
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3. Cry "Rape" and "Sexism" to further enhance their rights and demand ever more from society.
As others have pointed out, they don't really DO anything about any of their other causes, like ending "Female Genital Mutilation" just a few ineffectual petitions, but they go all over and do influence governments to pass laws on-2D loli porn... They don't care about the "poor exploited women" in these third world countries, they just want them as examples of how they "Hate Men" and to be kept from being "Competition" to try to force by desperation men to risk it all marrying them so they can exploit them.
No man in their right mind wants to touch or associate with these "Hyenas in Petticoats" they'd be treated like shit proposing, walked all over in marriage and ruined in divorce. Their kids would be warped, even coerced into "revealing" they molested them, and any "Advantage" of reproduction will be no better than "Bacterial".
Think about it: Some men would rather whack off to 2D pictures than even TRY to get a girl, because they've been ignored and slapped in the face too often. And even in Japan the "Exceptional Oddball" can't be a high enough percentage to justify multi-million dollar Hentai/Loli animations and games. In AmeriKKKa and EurAsia, likewise, pornography has reached critical mass.
They get help from "Religious" nutbags, especially those who like to "Crusade to end Human Trafficking"... These people are proud "Cultural Jihadists" -whoops- "Crusaders". They fear interaction of white males with women of other cultures, especially marriage, will undermine their exact vision of "Christian" culture. They know if they can totally close the door on all "Sex Tourism" (even ADULT ladies and legitimate marriages) they will cause massive starvation and less aid/charity to those areas because of less sympathy/relations, but they don't care. They don't even want to "Save" any of the "Darkies". They'll just toss a few "Chick Tracts" around as they leave, not in hope to "Save" any of them but literally to "Damn them to Hell because they rejected---well, a bunch of proof in this little comic." Any "Darkies" they "Let In" have to be totally inferior and subservient. "Jesus Saves?" Well, in their books, only "Je$u$ $lave$" are allowed.
And, frankly, I don't know if AmeriKKKa, EurNaziopea or Japan can be saved. Representative democracy has been undermined by money seeking corporations who use fake wars for control and "Reactionary" causes for their own sakes. Any "Man's Party" would be quickly turned "Right Wing/Republican" by corporate interests or publicly assassinated if it refused to corrupt its values. It's like 1984 where the corporations were trying to destroy the family and they'd eventually get to outlawing sex itself to ensure their workers have no loves or passions distracting them.
Now, wait a fucking minute.... this is NOT about discrimination against 'darkies' considering that a lot of people in public office in this country are black!
Now, the thing about the religious loonies was right until you started to bring racism into it... this isn't about racism, this is about SEXUAL REPRESSION and religious/other people wanting to force THEIR sexual morality on everyone else.
Right now, it is 'okay' to do that with pedosexuals (that is changing VERY quickly however as people realize that most children are not 'innocent victims' of the big bad pedosexual anymore, but instead are WILLING PARTICIPANT 99 times out of 100).
It was okay in the past to do it to homosexuals and heterosexuals outside of marriage.... and that changed in this past century.
Equality Now, perfecting the logical fallacy since 1992!
Sigh more from the association of women who can't get any.
So yeah, I raped to death a 5-year-old little girl.
I drawed a stick girl, took some scissors, made a hole between the legs.
Then I drawed a large penis and stuffed it into the hole. The draw of the girl tore apart.
Now sue me, Equality Now, for I had killed an imaginary girl. Sigh...
Let's take that further my friend....
I had consensual sex a 12-year-old girl.
I was the one who seduced her into doing it and she just gave herself to me. I can remember the feeling of entering her for the first time. She hugged me tighter as I got deeper into her and she would squeal much. I told her how sexy that sounded and she laughed. We kissed and after a few minutes we both came together. She arched the back, thrusting forward as I came deep inside her womb....
Then I woke up!
So sue me Equlity Now for having a wet dream with an imaginary girl who visits me often. Here's my e-mail: djmaca02@yahoo.com
Get me if you can! Find the girl in the world of dreams and try getting a testimony out from her. I dare you EN! Come and taste the blade of reality!
Maybe the world should start ignoring them. I mean, if we take them seriously they'll end up becoming stronger :P
It's always interesting to see Equality Now vs Sankaku. It perfectly shows how mass media can be exploited and biased for provocation.
i'd say for every one woman killed in a video game there are nine dead men, someone should be protesting the abuse of men in video games instead.
Equality Now doesn't care much for us men. I'm already expecting a WWIII Gender War where the women are the Nazis and the Men are ... everyone else.
Wait, Pornography is a bad thing? Since when is it uhhhhh.... BAD? I wonder how many people in this organization actually seen it? Probably a big chunk.
I think that the censorship in games is bad enough without having these soccer wankers make it any worse, they're probably also the people who bitch about people stealing their jobs or something.
Someone should find that Jacqueline Hunt bitch and jizz in her face!
How about addressing real issues that affect real women? Nah, that'll be too hard. Let's just bash video games and pretend you Equality Now idiots are actually doing something for real women.
How does Equality Now survive? Do they take membership fees, donations or something? All those money could have been given to organizations addressing real issues, fighting workplace discrimination against women or helping women in abusive relationships, instead of giving them to these idiots who just talk and do nothing.
Okay, does anyone else even bother to listen to these INSANE LOONIES anymore? I swear.... were they to spout this BS in real life, I would backhand them across the face and state EXACTLY why I did it.
It's about time to realize that hentai games actually DECREASE the amount of forcible rape in society, as does porn of other forms!
Equality Now is the DEFINITION of fem-nazi who wouldn't be happy if every man on the planet was strung up and EXECUTED to 'protect the women'.
They need to be SHUT DOWN, right now. I don't say that even about the KKK, who I HATE as well.... but Equality Now has gone over the line of reasonability.
If they don't like hentai games? Simply don't play them and don't buy them. Leave the rest of us who enjoy playing them alone, or face the consequences.... namely, a GUILLOTINE!
GUILLOTINES are for the frenchies dude.... These guys are more partial for the "Burning at the Stake" method.... MAybe EN are a group of lesbians who wants to keep the lolis for themselves? Like in BLUE DROP for example....
Bitches can't handle globalization, their culture > anyone's else.
No, bitches cannot handle that the world is realizing that there is nothing wrong with things like violent games, sexually violent games, etc.
The rest of the SANE WORLD has realized that pornography, violent video games, etc. actually CUT DOWN on the violence in society, they don't INCREASE it.
Its funny how women these days being active in the roles of violence not as victims but as the ones causing the violence.
Lol Equality Now, u mad? Seems like they're going down the same road as Jack Thompson.
Dickheads
next they think that board games are porongraphic
Who cares
Question?
why target Japan when UN/US has around the same problems... then again, maybe even the pentagon can't do anything about 4chan
psychotic feminist bitches.
Equality Now needs to be banned from this world....
Imagine a world where everyone minded their own business and did not tell others how to live.
People like Equality Now wouldn't know what to do with themselves.
Most of the ppls trying to ban rapeplay are women, then why dont they ask creators to make a game called Rapeguys...if u want equallity -.-
lets see what the reaction will be...
As a woman, I'm more interested in what they plan to do about the rape and murder of real women in third world countries than how they feel about the sexual affairs of non-existent women in fantasy worlds.
How about we focus on getting real prostitutes off the streets instead of flipping out that some random gamer killed one in GTA? It's not men that are treating prostitutes like they have lesser value, it's the prostitutes themselves that allow themselves to be sold away for such a low value. Why can't this group focus on that, if they're so concerned about protecting women?
These women seem ignorant that hentai may also contain consensual themes. Hentai is essentially just porn in a 2D medium. But they seem to take it as some personal attack against women... what about male x male hentai where men are getting punched and raped by other men? I guess they don't care, because they're only interested in "women's rights".
Well I'll tell you one thing, they're trying to encroach on THIS woman's rights to play a goddamn eroge in peace. Go save some real women and leave the rest of us alone!
Well, feminists claim that hetero and lesbian porno lowers women to mere sexual objects, while gay porno glorifies the male form.
Sounds logical to you? Me neither. But (certain) feminists have been persistently demonstrating the lack of basic reasoning. Not that it's limited to them *cough* YEC *cough*.
And yes, movements like EN are only interested in defending women's rights, which ironically results in increased discrimination towards both genders.
Anyone should rape them... But this womany are the ugliest shit, probably...
Those bitches need to be doing something about the poor women in Somalia who are stoned to death for adultery after being rape rather than destroying freedom of expression!
"Ironic words indeed, coming from the very people actively trying to force police in other countries to lock people up for exercising their own freedom of expression."
that would be singapore.
To be neutral, they would have less to say and even less credibility if people just stopped trolling them and send them more coherent and educated letters and emails instead of "doing the 13-year-old was the best". No wonder Equality Now thinks they're dealing with a bunch of freaks and maniacs that belong in jail. It's too bad they actually have recognition by some governments and they can go and publish all the worst crap they get and get away with it.
i think you missed the part where they picked that line from here it was not sent to them
That is true, but that is also part of what I'm getting at. They can go and imply that all the fans of "rape games" send them crude one liners and death threats, even though they probably don't all do that and are just honestly telling them what they're doing isn't right. They can easily pass off that the most common response to their "just" actions are maniacal letters and emails from perverts and degenernates. The problem is people will believe them too.
I have to say that what your saying is logically sound. That, however, is the problem, as logic has no place in "witch hunts", which is what Equality now is on.
bitches, they should focus more on wahts happening to realoty, lots of wives are being abused, teens get raped, etc. why do they have to focus on games? those are just GAMES!! they dont hurt anyone...
Don Quijote said:
"Let the dogs bark, as it is a sign that we are passing".
::sigh:: Are they STILL talking about rapeplay? Does anyone even still play it? Can't they highlight any of the other "multitude" of games with rape and gangrapes as a central theme ? Or perhaps some of the other -thousands- of games that inspire violence against women/girls (as if they actually know what "central theme" even means)?
The only thing that I have to say about this matter is: Doing the 13 year old was best.
Shouldn't that be Sankaku Complex's motto?
No. Because it annoys me that they continue to highlight it as if it was a serious comment.
hahha ahhahah, another bitching huh. Well looking at the related topics here. They think this is a new one... And still... We don't care, just let us play the freaking game.
Here we go again....seriously. I don't get why most country are hating on Japan, and their games. Japan is so open about sex unlike all the other countries. Why do you think Japan has the lowest percentage in sex crime?
Because the religious nuts think of sex as something filthy that should be hidden. The mere thought of anyone celebrating sex in any public way (such as games, TV, Movies, Music, magazines) is to be chastised and shown the error of their ways. Not that this sort of thing extends to all the priests touching on alter boys....but we're over that. Right?!
Damn, I just played Rapelay for the first time in a long time last night.
and I thought the British had the worst womanizers...lol..
"Does “killing” a prostituted woman in Grand Theft Auto just reconfirm to a gamer the “lesser value” of women in prostitution generally?"
Fact is, GTA is made to simulate real life. In real life the only things stopping you to kill someone are the ff:
1. Lack of knowledge on how to kill
2. Lack of weapons
3. Laws
4. Morality
If the first two are satisfied and you have no regards for the last two then, in effect, there is nothing stopping you to go on a rampage and kill anyone. Police, prostitute, "13 year old kids", a 60+ year old senior, just about anyone. GTA simulates real life. Equality Now hates GTA, therefore Equality Now hates real life.... Those Brits really need to get a life....
What I thought was really funny about GTA controversy is that while you can:
A. Go to a hooker for a "Recharge" then beat/kill her for you $25 back with no consequence --- Where's her Pimp to "Kill yo Ass" (rightly so) or at least be a tough "MotherF-cker" who'll take away more health than you re-charged likely if you do overcome him...
B. Go into a police station, kill two cops for the hit fee. Then, give the criminals their money's worth squared by killing more and more and more until your "Felony Level" is nuclear and the Nasty Guard comes for you. Simply (obtain boltcutters previously) carjack an APC and ride away.
B-1- Now, it's move to India and hide in a pit UNDER a Snake Charmer's basket, right? Nope. You just pays you money and your "Record" is expunged the next day you can walk right next to the police and they don't look at you twice...
HOWEVER, and this is what I'm getting to-why was the game banned for a while?
Hot Chocolate---
Had a crude "Dating Sim", no doubt inspired by Japanese RPGs, where the character had to impress, comfort, woo women over a period of a few weeks, just for some straight/normal sex. Except not off camera like the $25 blowjob hookers.
In short, the game got banned for the player behaving like a civilized human being rather than a Gangster with a "Sawney Beane" level mentality.
Wait, wait, wait. This is all coming together now. So they're AGAINST killing prostitutes, but A-OK about killing police officers? Talk about your priorities.
"In fact, I already had seen many girls jealous to imaginary girls." <--- The most loling thing I have ever read, really...
Dear EQ:
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
I hadn't heard from them in a while, so I thought maybe someone finally shut them up...
...apparently, I was wrong. I hope Yes to Freedom gets somewhere with these idiots.
Freedom of speech is a contradiction. What can you expect from it?
Wow...talk about a one track mind. These people amaze me with their persistence and stubbornness in fighting for imaginary women/children(RapeLay is in 3D!:D) rights while ignoring the plight of the ones living in real life (eg. just take a fucking look at some Islamic extremist countries). The 3D penis in RapeLay doesn't even penetrate the ladies 60% of the time! They just twirl around outside :(
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" ... we shall fight on the beaches ... "
W.S.Churchill
Equality Now: We still ignore America, the 2nd most lenient country on loli
Equality Now: We still ignore Islamic countries, because we're scared of being stoned to death and our corpses being paraded down the streets.
two words
FUCK YOU
Hentai creates otakus that don't dare to lay their hands on women.
Sure, that's why Japan has low birthrates but at least we're not committing crimes.
Surprisingly, it has the opposite effect of what most people think it'd do.
Every human would want to experiment with something every now and then because they'd like to see how it'd turn out.
It's normal human nature, and by putting in strong themes in what we make, we suppress those urges.
They Will Destroy My Mass Effect Series because of this shit Misunderstanding !!!!
nah that was just my word for my fanboysm
So what if my game has Sex, and Rape, at last i know and learn that doing that in real life is painful for woman who raped by unwanted man. And also a criminal. I will doing fap by seeing my PC monitor filled with hentai video, manga, doujinshi, images ETC rather than doing it in real life without married.
I dont need your lecture, Stupid-ass crap for brain Equality Crap-ass Shitty rapeface of Feminazi!!!!
I'm also Video games Addict that learned about politics dirty play LIKE YOU DID TO US!!!!
The arguments are quite similar to what the American Government did in the 70's. It was thought that Pornography of any sort was damaging so a congressional study was issued. It was found that not only was it not damaging it was perfectly healthy. So the study and it's findings was ignored.
Similarly, these women clearly do not care about the real issues of Rape against women. If they did, they would consider studies that were done on this very topic. It was found that Rape Fantasy lowers crime rates because people who might otherwise be inclined to act on such a fantasy find "release" through fantasy alone never even leaving home. Similar findings were found in regards to Loli decreasing the incidence of Child Molestation.
Incidentally, this means that every time a Feminist group fights against Loli or Rape Fantasy that are directly responsible for an increasing crime rate.
Oh how do they sleep at night.
And what about Women with Rape Fantasies? Women are not the only ones who get Raped. But, right, they are only equality in name.
Amuzing to see those people who just need to feel important, yet they dont bring any solution to solve the real problems. Sexuality is a part of humankind and shouldnt be opressed, what will happen if u put a bunch of men/women together in a cloister for many years, telling them that that sexuality is a demons act etc. I guess thats where the real pervertness started, sexuality will allways find its way becouse its part of us, be it homo or hetero. If its being pressed down it will twist and find its way thus creating another way of sexual stumilation.
Its those people who are constantly fighting against sexuality, that are perverted, opressing something that is natural will only result in creating something unnatural.
Also their equality is nothing more then a lie to get the necessary power to do what they want. When i woman punches you its allright, but if u punch her its discrimination, where is equality in that. If they would get their "equality" they would no longer be seens as women and thus they would have to compete in the mens world to survive. No nice smile and ewerything is allright/forgotten, no nice wink ewerything is allright/forgotten, if they wouldnt have any rights, they would have their buts kicked long time ago for something trivial like this.
shut the fuck up you buntch ass hairy unfuckable feminist "women" you have already won the right to vote but I'll be damned if you get read of porn how about you shave those hairy ass legs,face and armpits and get on that flatbed truck that has to transport your big ass and try to find that unbelievably desperate guy to fuck you may i suggested the old folks home yous truly the ancient come and find me bitches
I haven't played a GTA game in, maybe, 6 years? I forget. Are there male prostitutes in any of them? I don't recall seeing any in GTA 3 or Vice City. Either way, it's kind of fucked up of Ms. Hunt not to mention them. I mean, if there /are/ some in the game, that means that you can kill them for money, too, right? Which means she deliberately omitted them from her statement to frame it as though the inclusion of female prostitutes somehow demeaned women more than men. Likewise, if there are none in the game, she also failed to mention the fact that female prostitutes are depicted, but male ones aren't, which is clearly discriminatory against males of the same profession (by denying their existence in the first place).
I also noticed a distinct lack of recognition that, you know, there's plenty of shouta hentai/games/whatever out there, too. It's not like women are the only ones depicted in hentai and it's not like men don't get raped either.
"Feminism" (at least in definition) isn't meant to be a notion centered purely around furthering women's position in society. It's about gender EQUALITY, even if the rights being fought for are those of men.
Damn fem nazi and dumb asses who don't even play games. Go argue about things that are actually important like how that kid over in that country has aids cause you dropped a big ass bomb over there.
These self-righteous feminazis from the UK need to have their arses kicked. In fact, I'd liek to train them as my "pets."
These [In]Equality Now biznatches don't care that they've continued a leftist trend to pervert feminism to mean equal rights =/= equal outcome. We must not let these women destroy an industry, demean artistic expression, stifle game production and paint all men as mindless walking genitalia that must be put under tow or die. Such a movement for a lack of freedom should be fought without ceasing, without yielding to their communistic ideals of gender relations.
If we don't continue the fight, the male's natural role in society will be screwed (literally).
These self-righteous feminazis from the UK need to have their arses kicked. In fact, I'd liek to train them as my "pets."
These [In]Equality Now biznatches don't care that they've continued a leftist trend to pervert feminism to mean equal rights =/= equal outcome. We must not let these women destroy an industry, demean artistic expression, stifle game production and paint all men as mindless chinks (penises) that must be put under tow or die. Such a movement for a lack of freedom should be fought without ceasing, without yielding to their communistic ideals of gender relations.
If we don't continue the fight, the male's natural role in society will be fukked (literally).
it's because there are no much ppl outside playing eroge so they let their imagination run wild and commits crimes,stupid feminist thinking that banning eroge would lower crime rate is just their wishful thinking.in my point of view,even if they ban the eroge the crime rate will not drop but would rather increase.It's is discrimination against eroge.Most eroge players wont even do crimes like that because when they play the game they know that it's not right to do this in reality so they resort to do this only with their imagination,but the stupid bastards try to ban eroge will not see the result they wanted.
Sex?
Ask and thy shall recieve :3
So what,i have sex with 12 girls who are all of them 12 years old in my dream! So equalitynow, if u think u can excuse with this one, then u must be a sore loser!
Suppose i made count dracula to rise from his death and ask him to impale these good for nothing feminazis!
Guess they never heard of shoutacons..
Does anyone else find the ever so slight irony in the name "Equality Now" and the actions that we keep hearing about?
Seriously, it's almost pathetic enough to be called humorous.
When do we need someone else to control our own actions? Sigh...
What ever happened to non-involvement...
why would women want equality? well if they really want it then i guess when war comes we will have to call them to arms and possibly they will get raped by the enemies in their captures. we have our own responsibilities so they should just mind their owns.
it may be bcoz they havent played game themselves,
if they do,
they may fap fap fap till they die..
shit fvckers..mind ur own bussiness
Truly disappointing...
Frankly I hate the idea of equality for women.
Each gender has their own respectable jobs and responsibility. If women are to be allowed same rights as men, then no matter what women will still be above men because no men can bear children.
Don't mistake me though. That doesn't mean women SHOULD be oppressed. It just that there should be a clean line between the two that shouldn't be crossed.
Now back on the game thing...
I think EN is just plain jealous cause they cannot be as perfect as these 2D girls. In fact, I already had seen many girls jealous to imaginary girls.
And as many of you might've known, women's jealousy is SCARY. And I mean SCARY.
Any man that haven't seen/watched porn as late as age 17 is either gay(oh wait, even gay watch gay porn) or IMPOTENT.
And btw, what is "extreme pornography"? is there "mild pornography" or "casual pornography?"
Whoa, shit. I thought they just went away and died. Goddamn it, I'm not wishing hard enough. All I want for Christmas is~~
To add on this, I wonder how they feel about L4D.
Вitches and whores.
They should lose some weight, and go get laid.
We aren't at guilt for their frustration at being frigid.
My sociology research post I made a while ago showed that a significant majority of those with sexual misconduct and convictions under their belt are from a cultural background that sustained a conservative or oppressive regime towards sexual gratification.
Meaning - Moar Censorship = Moar Rape!
Better to keep it in the imagination tbh.
Well it's no surprise. There was recent research into countries that are high in religion and crime. Results showed correlation between countries that have a strict regime filled with dogma and demonization of people produced more crimes overall than countries that are more liberal. It doesn't show a cause of course, but it does show a pattern which should be noted.
I have an idea: Lets have someone make something that appeals to their every belief, turned up to 11. If even they say it sucks; we have evidence against them.
Not too complicated huh?
Basically, if even they are sick of their own bullcrap, it can work against them. Consider it like parents taking interest in their kid's lives and doing "I want to be cool too!" stuff. Like saying things along the lines of "Word UP! Bro-ther!!!" and all other lame-ass things. If they want something sweet, make it so sweet it gives them diabetes.
Sometimes, the best way to knock interest off of someone, is to crappify the interest value in it as much as possible by appealing to every whim on a dime.
If it works on kids, then it should work on immature zealots.
long live eroge!!!!
no... long live JAPAN for ur eroge....We're on ur side no matter what...so STFU feminist old hags