Star Ocean 4 Xbox Beta After All!

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Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope International, the PS3 edition of Star Ocean 4, is apparently set to have additional characters in addition to the previously publicised enhancements, suggesting the Xbox 360 may have been a beta much as with Tales of Vesperia, a prospect sure to aggravate long suffering Xbox RPG fans.

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Additional characters are promised; curiously, at least one character was previously confirmed as being cut from the Xbox 360 version…

The obvious suspicion is that some of Microsoft’s largesse helped secure the Xbox exclusivity, with the PS3 version being the “perfect” edition.

The game, region free and fully multilingual, is due in February, with pre-orders available now.



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    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    maybe the reason they can't have the extra stuff is because they didn't want to use another dvd? I mean so4 already used 3 dvds

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Star Ocean 4 sucked ass so whatever you Sonyfags can have it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:45 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't be jealous.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:56 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    YOU RRoD 360 BETA TESTERS FAGS SURE GOT TOLD.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:42 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Star Ocean 4 was a terrible game in so many ways, but mostly because of its plot - it is often cliched, predictable, plain stupid or all three.

    The new "perfect" PS3 edition is very misleading. People who have played the Xbox360 are just paying full price again for basically some window dressings; people who have not played the Xbox360 will just be disappointed with the plot like the rest of us...so who is really the winner here?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:28 19/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Until they drop a plot twist / rewrite. Which may or may not happen depending on what's added.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:55 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is fucking outrageous, absolutely dispicable.

    Normally I wouldnt give a fuck, but I own Star Ocean 4 and I expected that to be the full thing. Its just bloody wrong to bring out a game incomplete on one console and then finish it on another.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:56 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    God damnit, a BETA is something different! BETA means FEATURE & CONTENT COMPLETE!

    If anything, it's an ALPHA. A well-polished, bug-free (well, at least A-class bug-free) ALPHA, but still an ALPHA.

    Not a BETA.

    Please don't pretend you know anything about game development by throwing around terms like that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:27 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Beta needs to be polished, almost complete game.

    Alpha is just pre-release, no features only the core component where stuff can be added later on after devs get feedback and feature requests...

    or you're being just sarcastic...

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by InfiniteNine
    04:49 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looking forward to getting this! I love the Star Ocean series.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:48 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    your all fags for argueing over a video game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:16 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nice! A bit of extra for people who've been waiting for this. Now, if Bamco just gave us westerners ToV PS3..

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:15 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PCs > Consoles

    I don't need to buy a whole piece of crap for just an upgrade, all I need to do is just getting new hardware for the pc.

    Not to mention that PC has moar H games.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:25 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Too bad said parts cost you as much as the "whole piece of crap" and need to be upgraded more frequently.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:49 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wish people would give up on the "ur console sukz" wars.

    Disclaimer:
    * I'm "owned" by Microsoft because I bought a PC with Windows XP.

    * I'm "owned" by Apple because I bought a G3 with OS/X.

    * I'm "owned" by Sony because I bought a PS/3.

    That said... it _used_ to be that consoles were a simple and cheap way to get into gaming.

    + Standardized hardware, no surprises for the devs.
    + No configuration tweaks ("Open RegEdit and..."); no hardware upgrades required for the users.

    - Devs limited by the fixed hardware.
    - No ability to patch buggy games.

    o Your old games might, or might not, work on next-gen consoles.

    Now, consoles are more PC-like in that:
    * You can/sometimes-must store game code to harddrive/flash storage.

    + Manufacturers can "fix" operating systems with "firmware updates".

    - Manufacturers can remove functionality in operating systems by "firmware updates".

    - Some games won't work unless you have version "X" of the operating system firmware.

    - Manufacturers can disable consoles with "firmware updates".

    It seems like a major loss for the end-users. (Goes back to playing NES "Duck Hunt"...)

    Comment by bloodlust5
    22:16 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol console $400.
    lol PC = at lest $1500.
    20 console games = $2000.
    The same games on pc = 1000.(if you download they are free)
    DLC console = 30000 FAGMONEYS
    DLC PC = $300(only cause Xbox invented paying for the shit.)

    Actual community priceless.

    Comment by jcs
    02:33 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Star Wars 4: A New Hope

    Comment by AsakuraZero
    02:36 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    as a xbox360 owner is not pleasing to see this type of news but on the bright side now everyone can enjoy a game that tbh i stopped playing after a few hours (it wasnt good enough to play it during school time).

    also my bro have the ps3 so i can tell him to get the game and tell me anydifference or just play it at his home =s still its shitty to buy a game twice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck off.

    This is just a disgraceful show by japanese devs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:03 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    more scenes with lymle please 'kay

    Comment by Riiku
    03:11 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Srsly, if you're a fan of J-rpg genre, why would you buy 360? J-rpg = JAPANESE RPG, and PS3 is a console dominating Japan.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pretty sure the Wii is the console dominating Japan, and every other area for that matter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:19 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was upset when I heard a better version of ToV was going to be released on PS3, but I could care less about SO4 since it was a mediocre jprg at best. Still waiting for ToV PS3 release date for the states...

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:12 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    NO!! Say it isnt so! Mass Effect 2 is comeing out for the PS3 *sobs*?

    What? This is about Star Ocean 4 porting over to the PS3, not Mass Effect 2? Nevermind *stops caring*.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:31 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    To everyone who claims 360 is better for piracy, I am assuming they don't know about MS making 360 consoles that have detected chips in them no longer capable of logging on Live, and if I remember right being able to read dvd's was also terminated and it voided your warrenty... so pirate away just don't complain when/if they find out and kill your xbox on you.

    Me, its all about actually buying the games I want so meh :p

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:56 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, the function they disabled was loading games onto the hard drive. This however, can be re-enabled with a new hack. Reading copied games still works perfectly fine. I personally dont give a shit about playing online.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:05 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who cares if *this* game was a beta or not? Nothing you can do will make it not suck completely, barring changing everything in the game except for the battle system. A new playable character? Big whoop. Every playable character in the game was terrible.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:32 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well I won't buy it even though I own a PS3, just as I wont buy ToV on the PS3 if it makes its way to the west.

    Comment by Kamigod
    10:09 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    sweeeet love the StarOcean series
    i was so close to buyin a 360 for this.
    but i aleady knew this was gonna happen SO4 on bluyay yay

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:43 16/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can add as much characters as you want to this game that won't make it any better. That's probably the worst game I've played this year.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 18/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    As long as I get more Moe/Ero content, I'll be happy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:20 18/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This game sucks shit regardless of what console it's on.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:21 18/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you like horrible, cheesy, cringe worthy dialog this game is definitely for you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:27 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    your still all fags for arguing over a videogame.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:17 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Especially the ps3 fanboys :] . I know that playing only one good game (uncharted 2) on ps3 is a little boring :}

    Comment by ChaosAngelZero
    08:03 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hope this one works better for Sony than "perfect" low-res Vesperia: worldwide sales of the 360 version are still 35% higher than the PS3's. That's a much better deal for both Microsoft and the non-Japanese speaking crowd (and no, no game will ever justify learning the language just to play it, don't be such laughable wapanese kthxbai).

    Comment by Gligarman
    08:33 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's like the whole thing was a giant trap. The "exclusive" 360 version is released first but has some of the worst English dubbing in recent memory. Then, naturally, gamers are motivated to buy the bilingual "perfect" edition. I'm part of that demographic. Once I heard the voice acting I refused to purchase SO4. I'll stick with the international version.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:53 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, in the coutry I live in, the average income is about 300~400 bucks. An imported game, considering that the developers don't bother selling games to us, is about 100~200 bucks.

    You will have few options then: Play solitaire, don't play at all, buy a console and play one original game if much for year or play piracy games.

    I don't repent playing pirate games, since they don't count us as costumers at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:38 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hopefully the PS3 port will be better graphically (or al reast the same) this, unlike the PS3 port of ToV.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:32 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It still won't make the story not retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know, I really enjoy seing the 360 users getting f'cked in the ass but... this international version shit is nothing new. The only difference nowadays is that the first version is for 360 and the final version is for PS3. When Square was absolutely on Sonys side, they did the same on the PS2.

    Comment by chad001
    07:01 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huzzah! Do want indeed! Improvements on a decent game, that's always a good sign. :)

    Comment by Soldatoflife
    07:05 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *insert emotions of joy here*

    Soon the PS3 will be worthy of my purchase, soon. Though already having a blu-ray reader on my PC lowers the desire of having a PS3. Three more good games and I may reconsider.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:01 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Game is not very good either way so enjoy paying full price for a game that most xbox players have beaten and moved away from a looooonnnnnggg time ago. Oh wait you get a new cliched jrpg character or two to play as.

    Well have fun with a port of a mediocre game while i enjoy Mass Effect 2. Btw i own a ps3 also just it collects dust.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:31 19/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ahhh. naivete. How quaint. :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:07 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I actually bought a 360 for the specific purpose of playing Star Ocean 4, now I find out that the PS3 is getting the "perfect" edition? That makes me want to flame!

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:22 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this is why people dont buy xbox360 games! they dl and burn them!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:48 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    As a further note, these companies are not on anyone's side, and any attempt to persuade the consumer base of that (Epic Games is a much better example here) is simply an attempt to augment their income by playing to an "us versus them" mentality.

    In this case, though, Microsoft probably bought exclusive distribution rights for a period of time for both games, and then when it expires, the companies have to augment the titles since otherwise they are selling a year old game. But if they can get their fanbase to believe they are staying "true to Sony" then all the better, the fans are more likely to buy the game without thinking.

    And in this case Star Ocean 4 is a very bad game, so it benefits from that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:17 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does "exclusive" actually mean ANYTHING any more? It seems that any company that signs an exclusivity deal with a console developer is free to just ignore it whenever they feel like it these days. I blame Capcom- remember Resident Evil 4?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:27 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ha-ha! *points to xfail fanboys*

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    11:33 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Beta or not, this game was awful, and no improvements will make it tolerable.

    It is insulting to compare it to Tales of Vesperia.

    Comment by ChaosAngelZero
    13:24 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That won't stop some people from hyping it up to death, even though it's the exact same amalgamation of fail and boredom, only with a cut-off character or two getting re-added and slightly less aggravating voice acting that don't lessen the pain in the ass this game ended up being.

    Oh, and since this one will be released on all three main markets, I expect the typical Digital Foundry comparison finding out even more about the PS3 version's technical inferiority than the small job they did with Vesperia. It'll be lulzy, I'm sure of that.

    Comment by FoolyDooly
    21:32 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How about this, XBox fans? Stop being cheapskate and buy fucking PS3 already. Microsoft is going to abandon 360 in year or two and you'll have to buy a new one, so just do yourself a favor already.

    Comment by starsplash
    22:49 10/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wheres ur source? No source, Shut the hell up and stop making dumb assumptions.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:25 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, why not wait two years and buy a brand new console that makes the PS3 look like the Wii in comparison? Besides, as soon as MS releases a new console, you can be sure Sony won't be far behind.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:29 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really don't see the fuss about this game being released for PS3 now although it was exclusively 360 before. The dev team even said they might, or might not release it for the PS3 in the future, so it's not like any promises were broken or not. Personally I have both consoles, so I'm glad that they have new content and I don't mind purchasing another copy to play this great game again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:59 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Add char do want ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:03 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Both Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 sucked balls anyway.
    There are no good JRPGs this generation. Hopefully FF13 will change this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:20 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tales of Vesperia was godlike,even the Beta from the 360.PS3 Version was perfect.

    Star Ocean 4 gets raped by the 360.
    Hopefully they could save and make something good out of it for the Final Version :/

    Hopefully too FF13 didn't get raped because M$ wanted the same Version as the PS3 is.
    360 can't do what PS3 can so they have to downgrade the REAL Version :/
    OMG getting Nightmares already

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:18 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's funny to hear all the Sony assholes talk about 360 beta and PS3 perfect versions..

    While the 360 is playing games Sony MIGHT NOT EVEN GET, they will watch and hope they release another +1 version for the PS3 to justify the new game price.

    While you play games that were already 1-2 years old already, Xbox is moving on to NEW games..

    Enjoy your +1 versions. Look at the Xbox games that come out and expect a scrap, new price version in about 2 years after.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:22 19/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And in recent news, it's the graphics. :) Enjoy that then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:16 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    except its been confirmed the 360 version is getting downgraded. anything particularly major? probably not, but its evidence that if downgrading has occurred at all, its due to the 360 end, not the PS3.
    don't blame anyone else if you're ignorant of that detail.

    of course... maybe ignorance is what helps you sleep better at night.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:26 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is it downgrading the gameplay or the story of the game?

    ...no?

    Okay then, shut the fuck up...it's the same fucking game.

    You shouldn't be talking about downgraded versions with all the TERRIBLE looking exclusives Sony has out there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:12 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    doesn't matter anyway. Ps3 fanboy will cry hard when they realize how fail this game is after purchasing right when it will be released.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    02:15 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Which I'm glad doesn't apply to you two, since YOUR standard of "games" seem to be "superior", amirite?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:46 16/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nournot. Point is the game sucks...just because it's going to the PS3 with added content doesn't mean it's better. Extras don't make the story better..

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:23 19/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    To some people, it is. Don't think we act or like the same things you do.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:22 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha you are just jealous gaybox fans.STFU and enjoy you FFXIII in 10 disc when it is out.dont foget ur version is being compressed noob.SUCK MACHINE.SE Should realzie gaybox fail.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:24 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Atleast the 360 has enough CPU power to actually do decompression, and isn't only good for running SETI@Home. Then again, 3 DVD-9 is pretty much the same as one blu-ray single layer, so I don't think there'll be any major compression differences.

    Enjoy your LOADING TIMES though since Sony still hasn't realized that running stuff from hard drives is superior to running from discs (no matter if it's bluray or DVD).

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:59 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pretty much all ps3 games can be installed on the HDD to reduce loading, and ur beloved Xenon CPU is a "beta" version of Cell with FAR less processing power. It seems M$ like to have their consumers beta testing everything!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:20 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually its more like the 360 HAS to run compression or else it lacks the space on DVDs for any of its games.
    and yes there WILL be compression differences. S-E has said as much already (that the 360 version will be compressed more.

    enjoy YOUR loading times, as 360 games have long had far worse loads than the better optimized PS3 games.
    not to mention the PS3 has had installs for a while now (i guess you've forgotten that in your desperate search for retorts). its funny how 360 fanboys talked crap about that until they get full installs and now they act like they have some edge when evidence shows the 360 full install doesn't produce much better results than the PS3 install options that Sony's had since day 1.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:29 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It pisses me off everytime I get a game on the PS3, I have to install the mother fucker...eating up all my HD space. Oooooh, great, that makes my console better!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:31 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey Microsoft, I know the Xbox is awesome and all, imma let you gain some sales, but PS3 is the best console of all time!
    OF ALL TIME

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:43 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey Sony, I know the PS3 is awesome and all, imma let you have some of our old games after people are done playing them, but Xbox is the best console of all time!
    OF ALL TIME

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:20 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    T H I S

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just buy both. It may take time, but once you have both you don't have to fret over which console is the "best" console.

    20:54 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hmm, sounds nice. *Waits for new loli character, delicious (pantyshot-able) alt outfits for Lymle and that hologram meganekko to be playable..*

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:17 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i doubt welch will become playable due to her role as IC attendant. Though Crowe is most likely playable. Now I wonder how Squeeeenix would make adjustments to crowe to become become permanent party member since he will die near the end of the game. (derp)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:56 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Star Ocean 4 was fucking terrible. I hope they're doing a lot more than just adding characters.

    Like you know, fixing the plot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:05 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I second that, nobody really gives a shit at this news, people miss alot of the point. I would rather go buy the older $20 imperfect version than the new $60 'perfect' version it's not that much of an increase to make me spend 40 dollars more realistically.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:08 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    most sense ive heard in a comment all year

    +1

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:31 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you guys don't like the game then don't buy it but let the people who do like it buy it and stop making stupid comments.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:18 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would have gladly paid more than the heavily discounted Eternal Sonata (discounted both Xbox and PS3 versions), for the plain reason it was a new IP and I want to reward the "risk-taking" of new IPs.

    But it looks like I might have to pay full price for this. Still, I'd rather this than FFXIII. Why? Because I support Square Enix whenever they do better on their promises, but not when they double back.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:28 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah man, im nearly finished with the game and WOW.. the story is ABYSMAL!! this game bored me to death from the get-go.. the *only* redeeming factor it has would be the gameplay.. I swear i dont understand how anybody could enjoy this crappy game..

    ppl should go play the Xenosaga series, now that right there is some quality RPG's..

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:05 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Meh looks shitty game anyway :)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:56 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    can't wait for the "perfect" version of the game lol but seriously they should stop this console warfare tho.

    Comment by Tateha
    19:55 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sounds good, the description in that image suggests that the ps3 version is in every way superior. English/Japanese voice audio? more characters? improved gui and battle system? Holy shit, it's like a new game.

    Xbox360 owners got owned. again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:24 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    fagboy. just read the above comments that begin with fagboy to get my gist. ain't in the mood to repeat myself.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    20:31 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    With New Characters (plural), and a new battle system, it's about time I picked this up.

    They should've also improved the graphics by now.

    Comment by Vegio
    21:03 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    improved the graphics ?
    oh yeah, like in ToV perhaps.

    Comment by Callysto
    02:23 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ANON 22:22

    Big talk for someone crying/whining under an anonymous label. Your post reminds me of people who talk tough and threaten others over the phone.

    I also find it highly curious that your own personal self esteem and gamer esteem is seemingly reliant on people at comment section on a forum online.

    I'm also curious why you have to resort to insults and name calling in order to stress your point/intimidate.

    Or maybe Vegio's comments shrunk your junk a little and you need some digital verbal payback?

    Just trying to understand your mindset here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:06 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha, always those poor 360 fanboys who can only count on their graphics when it comes to multiplatform.

    Everyone knows that the best looking Exclusive Games are on the PS3.

    And everybody disagreeing with that is a unbelievable cretin with no brain at all!

    NO BRAIN AT ALL!

    Comment by arokan
    22:42 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And its fools like yourself that make the entire world loathe ALL console fanboys (or fangirls)
    Grow up and get a better definition of "true gamer".

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:22 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    common Vegio, come suck my dick PS fagboy. So what if the 360 has the graphics. All that matters is the gameplay. So STFU and go play with yourself in the closet. It's people like you who make me not want a PS3. I still own the PS1, PS2 and the first wave of the PSP's but bullocks man just get over the fact that your attitude just like everyother PS fagboy will always make me and other "TRUE" gamers not want to play on or own a PS3!

    Comment by Ichiro Ino
    22:43 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm still new to this fanboy shenanigans...

    Silly western gamers...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:18 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS3 = superior hardware. I don't really care about the platform I care more about the game itself. For those who are throwing the whole "true gamer" thing around "true gamers" are those who don't care about platform. If the game is good it's good if it's bad it's bad. That's all there really is to it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:13 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    shut up idiot

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:33 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol u have a 360? how sad

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:24 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know I don't support Xbox360, for a number of reasons, one of the biggest ones is that it drags down PS3 and PC, due to the DVD and Microsoft licensing fees. Purely that, people have to pay a licensing fee for each additional DVD unless they secure a special deal. This makes it more likely that a game will cut out additional content, higher res textures, and other things that would have been free but end up turning into DLC instead. As a CONSUMER I can't support it, it's just bad for me to support it. Look at Ubisofts new double pack idea, they combine Rainbow Six: Vegas and Ghost Recon 2 on one PS3 Bluray. Imagine how much more could have been packed on an exclusive Bluray.

    Games will not improve in quality until a new Xbox console comes out using Bluray, the sad fact is the PS3 might be able to keep up with a new Xbox. Simple because most of the quality is based on DATA. The more data you can place on a disc the higher the quality especially of textures.

    I'm tired of playing Xbox games on my PC and PS3. I hate the jaggies, I hate the blur, I have the low textures, and I hate the slow stream they have, like COD:MW2.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:50 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I always laugh when people try to justify their reasons for pirating games. Either just admit you're a scumbag pirate or stop doing it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh not to mention that the Xbox360 has one half the streaming ability of the PS3, literally one-half. Games like Call of Duty: MW2 where they have to stream in the quality of the graphics wouldn't even be noticed on the PS3. Take Uncharted 2 as an example. Yet we have to pretend we have an Xbox360 with it's slow streaming, I can only shake my head everytime I see it.

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    05:03 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everybody wants to make the best out of their lives and have fun sometimes. It's those little bits that count.

    I remember how I collected money for my first PlayStation for a year and a half by not eating anything for my pocket money at school.. ahh, the good times.
    I kept saving it all for games, asking for more pocket money as parents started to earn more, and could buy one pirated disk from the shop for 4$ a week. It was like the life had become a dream come true.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:50 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you pirate your games, go pirate them in a corner of your room. Don't go bragging about it online, simple.
    No one needs to know your sad story for justifying your reason for pirating games.

    Comment by InfiniteNine
    04:48 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The question is why do you own a game system in a climate like that? I can understand a computer for work and such, but a game console in that situation is unnecessary.

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    04:46 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon@ 03:50
    It's easy to laugh your fat American ass off at poor people, eh. Good for you.

    Try moving to, say, India and do the same job you do in USA for THEIR salary. I so want to see how you'll manage to afford any of the official games with that.

    Comment by InfiniteNine
    03:42 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Video game publishers are not Microsoft. Microsoft already has TONS of money, but publishers like Atlus, XSEED, NIS/A, and other small firms loose money when you pirate their games. They really need their sales to stay afloat with the amount of sales their games get. I can get the whole not being able to afford them and everything, but small publishers like them need the money for their games to keep on localizing/bring their titles over. I wasn't able to buy new video games for a good half year and beyond at a time growing up, but I know I helped the companies that brought over my favorite games. You have no reason to be proud of your piracy or your consoles ability to enable it.

    I own a PS3 and a Japanese 360, and they both have their merits. I use my 360 for Cave shooters (Death Smiles), and Tales of Vesperia. My PS3 gets used for pretty much everything else. I don't weight one over the other because I like them both for what they are.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pirates aren't true gamers, they are just self righteous douche-bags who can't earn a decent wage due to their social ineptitude at getting a job.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:07 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOLz I'd go for the Xbox 360 now that the rrod is dealt with. cheaper games, better graphics and except for disgaea 3, (but seriously, who plays that shit?) I'm having a blast with my 360 and oh the fact that bayonetta and the DOA girls looks so much hotter is a plus

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    02:50 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @asuka222: At least I buy their console.

    No pirate games-->

    nobody buys games in 2nd and 3rd world states-->

    no reason to buy console you can't afford games for-->

    less profit for companies making the hardware.

    (game developer's loss about same as their original games would not be bought there anyways.)

    @anon 01:58: think of a tiny shit country in Eastern Europe with the deepest recession in EU.

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    06:11 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Justify!? What are you talking about.

    All those games can be bought in shops officially - the shop owners know nobody would buy any of the official disks with our wages.

    We have 9 times lower wages for every job compared to developed states;
    also 200%+ prices for electronics compared to US - import taxes, resale and transport costs to get it to Eastern Europe.

    So it is 18 times more expensive to buy official disk here. 18 TIMES! It is not a matter of goodwill anymore.

    for an XboX360/PS3 game, you pay 20-50 USD

    But for us, that'd be like paying 360-900 USD.

    Reasonable enough for you?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:44 16/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @asuka222
    "@anon 23:47: true true, PS3 online is free and that's a good thing"

    For now you mean...

    http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20091126/178049/?P=1

    Page 3.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:45 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @darkrockslizer: I don't have anything against you but pirating games isn't really a good thing. Even you don't pirate games, some people does. Even if you say that "Everybody wants to make the best out of their lives and have fun sometimes. It's those little bits that count", pirating game is still a form of stealing. No matter where you look at it, it's just not right.

    And think about it, what if you are the owner of the games that they are pirating, will you be happy about it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Drockslizer

    Maybe people in India should stop stealing jobs from american Programmers, then you wouldn't have to worry about comparisons, eh?

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    09:30 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What will it change?

    The people like me can't afford the originals anyways, so piracy or not, it won't change anything for the developers.

    Think of reading a book inside a library or a bookstore.
    Somebody made it, I read it.
    For free.
    If I like it and the price is affordable, I go buy it.
    At which point this starts to become a crime?

    Movie makers tried to protest against home television at first, also. However in the end, nobody died. Yarr! ☠

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:26 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Take your shit discussion somewhere else.
    We're talking about Star Ocean here faggots.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:58 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @darkrockslizer:
    And you live in?

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:17 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS fagboy. People like you don't even deserve to own consoles and be called "gamers." A true gamer has no bias against other consoles. And for the sake of argument like I have said before, you get for you pay for service wise. Though not to forger this part of the argument, if you don't take care of your system(s) and wonder why they crash or break or whatnot, it's soley your responsibility.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:08 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    As for my myself, i own a Wii, a ps3, but no xbox 360. A lot of my favorite game I want are on ps3 and xbox 360 isn't really a console i want to buy. But, I've been playing xbox360 a lot and have fun. xbox360 was unbelievable before when his game library was so huge compared to ps3 with his only 10 games. Now ps3 got a great library of game. You see my point!?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:37 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A true gamer doesn't play on consoles. Consoles have multiple disadvantages and none of the advantages of Macs and PCs.
    Every console game I've played past the age of side scrollers has been a huge disadvantage in terms of performance and control scheme.

    Comment by Epicgar
    01:42 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @darkrockslizer: Piracy isn't a good thing to do and it makes the company poorer
    @anon 23:47: true true, PS3 online is free and that's a good thing

    I personally don't care w/c one is better. I have both and they have each game uniqueness. Also, I don't pirate games on 360.

    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    22:48 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have 360 and it's not sad. At least I can play pirated games on that one. You can't on PS3.

    Before somebody starts flaming me, I'd have to add that you could buy food for one month for the cost of one PS3 game where I live. So the choice is obvious for me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:53 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A "true gamer" is playing game while you are ranting about fanboys.

    Maybe you don't deserve to own a console too?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:47 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    true gamers have ALL CONSOLES, personally im a rpg gamer who would of gotten a 360 if i was so afraid of RROD.

    n xbox makes u PAY FOR ONLINE
    ps3 doesn't. WOOT FREE modern warfare 2, n i can thank xbox360 users for subsidizing my free online. -seriously thank you.

    Comment by DK
    21:39 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Somebody's bitter...

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:33 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    delicious xbros tears

    Comment by Schrobby
    23:06 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lulz at M$. If they are so dumb to pay for a beta they are too dumb...

    Comment by Canadane
    21:12 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thats uncalled for.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:35 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    didn't anyone notice that anon 22:17 said "PS fagboy. People like you don't even deserve to own consoles and be called "gamers." A true gamer has no bias against other consoles" ps fagboy? no bias against other consoles? if i didn't know any better, i'd say he was a hypocrit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:52 16/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lold hard at the guy ranting about Ps fagboys. Stupid people make my day

    Comment by Ken
    23:47 14/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    want +1

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:27 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I want it too. I played the 360 version and I really liked it, and personally i don't mind it being released again on the ps3 with more content I'll just buy it again and play it again and have an even better time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 15/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm going to re buy it, too. Though I haven't beaten the game, I will beat it on the PS3.

    Also, I have no hate for either gaming platform. I have both and play a good amount of games. All but sports games, which I suck at.

    But I have to say I enjoy playing my Ps3 more then my 360 only because I don't want to pay for, what, sending messages to my xbox buddies? A silly avatar?

    Don't get me wrong, I love my library of xbox games, I just feel that they already get enough money from all other people who get the RROD and don't know it's repairable. They should at least lower it. I say 20 dollars a year. When Xbox live starts making me breakfast, THEN I'll be happy to dish out 50 dollars a year.





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