“Accidental” Loli Downloader Faces 20 Years

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A man who “accidentally” downloaded and then subsequently deleted child pornography faces a possible 20 year sentence, even though he claims he immediately deleted the files and police had to reconstruct the images from deleted files.

The 22-year-old California man claims he was using the Limewire P2P network to download pornography, specifically “College Girls Gone Wild,” but that when he downloaded it he discovered he had also unwittingly downloaded pornography featuring minors.

He maintains he deleted the files and thought nothing of it. However, a year later the FBI asked to search his family home, and whilst prying into the depths of his hard drive they discovered illegal material which had been deleted.

“It didn’t appeal to me. I was looking for women my age, so I just wanted to download ‘College Girls Gone Wild’ and accidentally downloaded underage pornography.

I asked them, ‘Where did you get that? I don’t remember that.’ I asked them, ‘Could I access that if I wanted to?’ They said no.”

He has pleaded guilty in the hopes of securing the mercy of the courts – he faces a maximum of 20 years for possessing child pornography, but his counsel is hoping for a “lenient” 3 and a half year sentence, 10 year probation and registration as a sex offender.

The FBI advises people in similar circumstances to turn themselves in to authorities, although there is no guarantee they will escape prosecution, and (frequently permanent) confiscation of computers is likely.

Unencrypted P2P networks such as Limewire are heavily monitored by police looking to nab people sharing underage pornography – IP addresses can easily be gathered and traced to physical addresses, likely what happened in this case.

Deleting files from a hard drive in the conventional manner actually only removes the information as to where on the disk the data is stored – the actual data remains in place until overwritten with new data, likely what happened in this case. Data recovery tools and computer forensics software enable such fragments to be reconstituted or at least identified.

It is also possible to discover previously overwritten data by inspecting the physical structure of the disk, though this is far harder – only repeatedly overwriting the affected sections of the disk with random data can prevent this.

Computer users wishing to prevent such “accidents” resulting from the presence of previously deleted files can use secure deletion tools to overwrite previously deleted files with random data – such procedures prevent forensic recovery of deleted data and are approved for military use in ensuring classified files are rendered irrecoverable.

Complete hard drive encryption using utilities such as TrueCrypt is similarly effective, as is the use of P2P networks which are fully encrypted in the first place.

Fortunately for governments the use of such tools is still not common knowledge…

Via CBS13.



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    Comment by Anonymous
    13:52 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Funny thing is that you're most likely to get a lesser sentence for killing someone

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:48 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    You know these things are a just a power grab and a way to suck the system of tax money.

    CP has been around longer than the internet. Chances are everyone has it in one form or another. It will continue that way through out the end of times without even directly hurting anyone.

    unjust law are just for sheeples and the rich.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:48 12/12/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    This is how my tax money is being wasted.
    What happened to catching real criminals I don't know.

    Comment by tyciol
    04:20 15/01/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    This is so gay, seriously, the fucking law. This does nothing to actually rescue kids from abusive or exploitive situations.

    It'd be find to have laws obligating people with the media to cooperate with police to track it down to its original location, but that's it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:21 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Deam, i've got whole 500GB HDD full of some downloaded stuff. And i havent even looked at what is it that was really downloaded...
    Several times before i had a file downloaded through P2P being not what it should be acording to it's name but just some bunch of Porn...
    And this file was laying for several month on the disc before i even managed to see him once.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:56 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would suggest degaussing the hard drive, break the platters, and dump the fragments in a few different places.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:22 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Get a a pair of really big dogs, and train them to eat FBI agents. Just for safety.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:02 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    MP5 > dogs

    I would suggest you go full auto but it's illegal to own in most jurisdiction if you are not in the military.

    Comment by Jürgen
    08:48 20/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure the sound of an unsuppressed weapon would give you away anyhow. Besides, attacking a FBI officer would more than likely bring a shit storm down upon you that you would not ever be able to fight.

    FBI > You

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:38 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, you have to be pretty accurate to shoot a dog without letting it whelp one last time.
    If you don't blow it's head off straight away, it will make enough noise to wake up the dead.
    With two dogs, you actually have to take both down at the same time.
    And if the dogs are inside the house, it's near impossible to take them down without drawing too much attention.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:19 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How about those people downloading from other countries? Can the FBI catch them too?

    Comment by Jürgen
    08:49 20/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    The FBI is only for America, other countries have their own people to handle things like that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:41 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    okay its a good thing i don't mainly rely on downloads, but if i wanted to download dance in the vampire bund i could be arrested cuase of the main female character being naked most of the time? one question where would i get a magnet lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:12 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think you could be arrested for it in canada. In the US it's all very complicated but is constitutionally protected.

    Comment by msoltyspl
    21:09 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "It is also possible to discover previously overwritten data by inspecting the physical structure of the disk, though this is far harder – only repeatedly overwriting the affected sections of the disk with random data can prevent this."

    Btw, this is not true.

    http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html

    http://www.actionfront.com/ts_dataremoval.aspx

    Among other easily findable materials. Please don't repeat digital myths ...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:58 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not true. Inspecting the platter directly is one way to go about it. But the more common practice is to use the analog signal detected at the drive head to deduce previously overwritten signal. And the feds don't need to recover the whole drive to book you, just a segment of it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:32 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thank God I'm not a pedophile...

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:44 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Neither was this guy. Did you read the article?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what the guy "claim", for all we know he could be lying.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:14 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    its quite possible. its like those of people getting "innocently" ban from some kind of mmo. But with how things work too with the government you never know.

    Comment by Ray
    21:33 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    USA huh? Do cops there usually randomly bust into your homes and cuff you for downloading illegal stuff?

    Because I find it ridiculous they would invest much time and dedication to catch a completely random 22 year old guy who had a 1 year old deleted CP leftovers on his hard disk.

    Over here the cops are near useless to the point where major criminals are left loose, let alone small fish.

    Comment by Red Comet
    01:52 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No it's the FBI being a fantastically wasteful organization they have computers that do nothing more then log p2ps.
    Often they'll run stings and it probably was a fed computer that had CP relabeled as girls gone wild.
    They then rifle though these logs and look for who downloaded it.

    He was stupid did not use an IP ban list ,did not use encryption,DL'ed from a mostly static IP.
    Most people do not reset their broad band modems so they can have the same IP for months.
    Yes these operations costs millions and yes it diverts resources from far more important things.
    Often it seems members of the organization are far more interested in farthering their careers and getting more money from the government then actually protecting people.

    Consider this latest screw up the legacy of having an idiot for president for eight years.

    Though the FBI actions have been controversial through out it's history.
    Every time they were given extra power without oversight they abused that power and eventually had it removed only for some other idiot politician to add it back for his latest war on the flavor of the month be it drugs,terrorists, or pedos.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:29 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What, looks like the police are running out of people to arrest so they arrest anyone who had a slight brush at anything illegal

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:50 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    State and Federal laws tend to conflict each other in the U.S.

    That is why their justice system is total fail..

    Go after the real pedos like the church ministers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:56 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The head of the Irish Catholics met with the Pope to discuss the 30 year cover up of sex offenses against minors perpetrated by clergy.

    He probably begged the pope to let him go back to molesting altar boys because he hasn't had any for so long.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:46 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    where would you get magnets from anyway?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:47 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    do they have to be a like special strong types or something?

    Comment by HentaiKamen
    16:15 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You think that is bad? Up here in Canada the law considers 2D hentai cp... So anyone who has any Hentai anime/manga on his HDs is pretty much going to jail if found out.

    No one is safe since the laws is as ambiguous as can get. If the 2D chick "looks" under 18, BAM! your gone for 20 years...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:33 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hidoi !
    And BTW what is considered loli 2D porn ?

    Can something like Evangelion or To Aru Kagaku No Railgun be considered to contain child porn ???

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:56 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And what about Europe?

    Comment by HentaiKamen
    02:49 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not sure about Europe, as every EU member has differences in laws...

    In Canada though... Here's the deal: anything the courts decide features "under 18" children in sexually exploitable situations is a no-no.

    Evangelion or To Aru Kagaku No Railgun are probably okay, but say Dance in the Vampire Bund...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:40 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Vietnam War rock

    Comment by 1529op
    12:17 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is it bad if I found a grammar error in the end of the article? "Complete hard drive encryption using utilities such as TrueCrypt is similarly effective"
    The verb 'Is' doesn't agree with the noun 'Utilities.' :D

    Also with full drive encryption... I've seen videos of people leaving their laptops and such in use using Windows BitLocker... People can freeze down your RAM with some really cold spray and remove it while it's in use. The cold will help preserve the data in it, because it doesn't fully wipe out when you turn off your computer. (It takes a minute or two) They grab some program and hook up your RAM to some adapter and dump all it's contents to their laptop, then they scan it for the key and bingo, encrypted hard drive access. Pretty sure the FBI is capable of this, considering I saw it online. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDaicPIgn9U for more

    Anyway, here's a Protip: Store all of your 'bad' files on a cheap old 10 or 20GB hard drive, then when the FBI rings your doorbell... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcT_AvCRgT8#t=1m26s
    That's only if you happen to have thermite lying around. It's totally not overkill and won't get you arrested for anything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:31 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Complete hard drive encryption using utilities such as TrueCrypt is similarly effective"

    Actually the sentence is fine. The base sentence is "Encryption is effective." 'Using utilities' is modifying 'encryption.'

    Although I see where you're coming from, in this case you're wrong. It's saying 'encryption that utilities use' as opposed to 'utilities that use encryption' is effective.

    Comment by 1529op
    09:04 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually... No. TrueCrypt, the example used, is 'a utility that uses encryption', several types in fact. :D So the correct verb should be 'are'.

    The sentence is just weird because the modifier for utilities is a long fragment, 'Complete hard drive encryption using.'

    Yay for my 11th grade English class. :D

    Comment by Wuto
    11:34 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow this is some hardcore shit. Time to get me some magnets and keep it in a black box within hand's reach.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:12 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i can imagine the next one :
    "accidental" 2D-loli downloader faces 20 years

    Comment by Bulldog
    14:12 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    why would any sane people assert 2d loli as a crime? The lolis are 2d and not even existing life form (only data form), so no child is being abused, no child is being harmed, just some people want to enjoy their life a bit more.
    One argument: '2d CP will motivate some unfortunate fools to violate the law...'
    Bull shark! Then why wouldn't they ban all 3d girls as a preventive measure?!

    Comment by Bulldog
    18:36 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    no. I don't believe that law and sanity are even remotely related...
    In my country, an ordinary woman complained about the service of a certain hospital via email to her friends. Somehow, the email got forwarded to the lawyer of the hospital, things followed after another and the next time, she found herself being jailed for 3 weeks and fined a irrational huge amount of money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:30 03/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    sounds like indonesia

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:42 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did you detect any trace of sanity in this case?

    Comment by Shuu
    15:44 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tell that to Christopher Handley...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:11 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What happen to those police's mind.I think there is plenty of case that need to be solved more than this.

    This is madness.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:38 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let's why I advise the use of Kremlin Secure Delete.
    Plus don't use limewire.
    Most importantly, I don't get what is the big fuss about it. Even if he is doing it intentionally big deal. I mean that's nothing. Stop acting like a group of kids, and be a grow up by going to war like me. (I have been to Vietnam War)
    YEAH
    I rock
    War Rock

    Comment by DFC
    14:30 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wait theres CP on limewire?

    Comment by drunkspiderman667
    13:50 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the other day when i came on sankakucomplex it was saying its java was blocked and i would need to whitelist it? does this mean ive been being monitored? also i have a iolo system mechanics drive scrubber and it says its DOD compliant so is this good? not that i have and child porn but i have some pics i saved from here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Say NO to jail baits!

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:12 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    dude dont worry its just a problem with youre browser which is Firefox i assume.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:56 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    drunkspiderman667

    reported.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:15 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wiping free space with gutmann method and using shredder with gutmann method is not enough?

    I just wonder becouse of these tips here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:15 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    AFAIK Gutmann method is an overkill. There is NO WAY to recover data from a drive formatted with that algorithm, in fact I consider zero-ing the drive a few times would suffice.

    Comment by Bulldog
    14:08 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the fish? So far I think people're only concerned with recovering their lost data and here we find dozens of people panicking about how to eradicate their data permanently.
    Anyway, I gain a lot of knowledge here. Thanks everyone!
    Will exploding the hard drive work?

    Comment by Bulldog
    18:33 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol... then I should grind my hard drive into smithereens, burn them into ashes, try solving the ashes with some powerful concentrated acid and throw them away in the toilet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:39 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you grind it into powder I'm pretty sure that's beyond even the FBI's patience to try and recover.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:49 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everyone's panicing about eradicating data because this is some real BS. One file. A year later.
    But to answer your question it really depends on what you explode it with. If the FBI is determined enough to send you away for life for a single deleted file, they're determined enough to sweep your place for hard drive fragments.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:56 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    By USA Dude:

    Someone posted "how do you accidentally download illegal porn."

    Well, you can very easily. Many of the P2P files are not what they say they are. Looking for a title-A, and get Video-B which something completely different happens a lot.

    I was looking for something obscure - and ended up getting some U.S. Movie in Spanish. Or something worse.

    So this guy can be telling the truth. Unfortunately, he doesn't appear to have a good attorney.

    There should be MORE evidence that this guy is into that stuff. If only one file that was erased a LONG LONG time ago is their only evidence, then its weak.

    If someone went through my computer, my porn is Asians (usually Japanese), some Anime/manga and regular American porn. So for THAT guy - if they see stuff like that, and only 1 erased file - he should be "innocent" of a purposely mis-labeled file.

    If he was into little girls, he'd have hundreds or thousands of files, photos, videos whatever. He should have a history.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:58 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Great. So this means that sooner or later I'm gonna be arrested for looking at the sankaku hentai gallery. Hope I still have some lube :(

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:46 16/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does the FBI do this kind of thing often, or is this one of those one-time things people go crazy on the internet about?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:44 18/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Reading the comments on the CBS13 site it doesn't sound like an isolated incident.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:46 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Move to Poland everyone. Police right here don't know how to use PC, tell a difference between green tea and marihuana or even maintain the surveillance camera(I know it from experience. Seriously I was sitting 4 hours in police-station when they made tests on my bag of kokeicha green tea... quite nice brand btw.) Although I still feel little uneasy about monitors, my loli manga scans are too dear for me to delate them xD

    Comment by Red Comet
    01:29 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If I was a lawyer I'd be so ecstatic to get this case I'd nearly jeeze myself as I could get millions out of the FBI.
    The charges can be challenged now that the balance of power has shifted from the tards.
    Really it shows that the laws made in the past 8 years are a complete failure ,pushed by people who failed at being human beings and enforced by extremely lazy who are people still stuck in the 1680s.
    This is as silly as the witch hunts of the 1600s.
    It's enough to make me ashamed to be an American that someone can be arrested in this manner.
    If they want to catch the real criminals in CP then go back to posing as children and conducting stings when the pervert come to collect his victim.
    Catching criminals requires hard work vs sitting on you massive fat ass checking IPs.
    Can't handle hard work then don't go into law enforcement.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:11 16/05/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    I gave up on America a long time ago next stop Japan all aboard!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:57 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't see the point in downloading such stuff.
    I mean, risking 20 years in jail just for some faps? I lol.
    I don't support lolicon, but at least its a good alternative to CP.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:24 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I accidentally 80MB of CP files. Is this bad?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:06 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yup but it also depends on where you live

    Comment by shezmu
    02:06 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yet another story of how the police are not here to help people, but to throw their harm body into cold cages.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:03 12/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's the thing. People think that police exist to "protect the people", which is bullshit. Police exist for ONE reason- "uphold the law". Laws are meant to exist to protect the people, so police usually are doing that anyway- but the fact is, if you cross the law (wether it's a just law or not), the police will deal with you. That's what they exist for.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:58 13/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why haven't anyone commented on how cute the shota is?

    He's adorable~

    Comment by tyciol
    18:40 06/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fine you have a point there Anon he is somewhat Moe

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:28 15/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    poor that guy... he fell into their trap~~~ he want older woman and he said it!!!! leave him alone!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:43 04/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He shouldn't have been arrested. There's an Affirmative Defense if he posessed "less than 3" and deleted them "promptly and in good faith." He isn't even guilty of anything!

    Comment by Jürgen
    08:51 20/07/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh an by the way, thanks Sankaku for letting all the pedophiles know how to cover their tracks lol. At least you didn't tell them how to find peoples address from their IP seeing as how retarded people online can be.

    Comment by Neferius
    23:49 15/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This may just be "Wild Allegations" on my part but it is Possible the file may have actually been uploaded by the FBI themselves as a form of Virtual Jail-Bait.

    Now, I know what you're thinking "...great, Another conspiracy-theory >:P "
    But consider this: How it the world would they know EXACTLY what files contained child-porn? After Recovering ALL the files the guy deleted in the course of a Year, they would have had to run a Search based on file-names ...umm?

    There's a distinct Cheesy smell to all of these recent court-trials involving some average Joe downloading "Child-PORN!!!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 28/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wow im amazed with the justice in this world... i mean the guy wants to download something legal and some fu**ing bastard frame the downloaders with cp and the poor guy that only wanted to spank the monkey with some legal pornography gets arrested. i wonder what would the feds do if on their own would received a email with cp from some hacker with bad intentions. would he b arrested the same way? unfortunatly there r some idiots that instead of making good use of their skills prefer to ruin the PCs and lives of innocent ppl. for all the hackers/framers in the world: get your own life u assholes dont destroy the others.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:26 15/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I feel sorry for the guy, i actually had a similar experience once, i downloaded what i thught to be a normal porn movie but it turned out that some people in it were clearly underage so i deleted it too.

    thank god in my country the governement doesnt track stuff like that on limerwire and stuff...or so i hope...D:

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:59 28/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    is it a crime to like chocolate? it exactly like the fact you like some thing can kill you like that guy was killed, who will he be at 40 where he gets out? a violent and hardened criminally prosecuted guy who will have a vengeance exponentiationising and for ever growing rage wich is just from the fact that this is epic injustice. if some one becomes crazy, his life is to blame. if some one has preference that the world does not support... should he stop him self from living? how can preferences versus harm done and morals be so badly twisted that they are killing each other? in my ideal world you could like what you want but never do harm. faping on 2d is like thinking i can think what i want but i can not do every thing i think. hence a caricature of your rped sister is bad but a caricature of what you think of your sister would be acceptable considering it never realy happend. this would balance harm and fiction to there just values while respecting living human beings. though since your sister might not be ok with your drawings this conflicts with harm hence now it is bad. so to make it just every character depicted should be fictional. but still overmoralist and epicaly deranged systems determines if "YOU" are right and now what you do or think. laws are passed like posers listen to non underground music unless it is poser to do so. this means people believe that a good posed argument or law is always the way to go. but the people only knows as much as they are thought or told. how many did really grasp there own answer? was it a big one? thing is i never guessed that he would ever get more than a 500$ fine and a 2 years watch period. how can being horny and preferring coordinated streams of binary depicting a form of media lead to any prison at all to me is unfathomable and insulting as an living organism. if he would of been chatting with teens online and preparing meetings then i could see this penalty as an extreme still a 10 years would serve that. but this guy is a martyr and not like those fake one like the blowin ppl ones but the ones where you see an unjust slaughter. those 20 years in prison is like getting raped of life. who would have taste for life and no revenge plot after that? do they want to create criminals? i see no other issue for that person except the challenge of accepting hell from god and the system and some how keep sane and human which is totally science fiction/fantasy; if some one even belief that he would pull trough this then go make a drama anime, im sure it will sell out with that much hope giving... but that wont resurect martyrs as much as placing that guy in prison will not undo the CP and no matter how much hate you pass, no cure would arise from that. no matter how much light a god could shine on an issue or what i would say could not change people's combined efforts of stupidity in eradicating a problem from every where than it's root and thinking they are making a good difference is more than i can handle as a human or a living being. it is like accepting that a black hole is going to swallow the solar system and seeing people lie about it thinking the last of there time should be used in pleasure. if that were to be the case i would think that a sitting duck in star craft would survive but actually migration is the key to survival so why would they lie and sit there waiting for things to crumble? in short how can people be like on a fire pit, not tied up and actually free to get off any time AND yet just stay and burn? they know they flaw and yet no corrections are made, law should protect living things and valuables from damage, if you value your emotions and a law exist to protect them and conflicts, what is its flaw? why are they not correcting the flaw instead of reforming the whole thing and creating a new flaw? i can see why CP is harmful even as a seed of pedoism but to rape and to like is a difference of action and a state of preference. i like woman from 14 to 35 and looking good naked but i think of the idea of dating a 14 y like dating a rotten dead pig carcass that speak only nonsense. like to me sexual attractions are like allergies and well the love attraction is all about acceptance in a pair of people. so to me a 10 years old girl is like a fat 50 yr old one or a 20 year old model who is a total bitch. it is like looking at your dog/cat's anus; you just wished you would of realized you were going to look there before you did but now it is too late and feel discussed. it is not like you want this and you even don't like it but if you did, what could you do about it? could have evaded this? what would you do to prevent your self afterward? are our own preferences our own curse? according to our world it seems so. so for you humanity to make it up, you would need to make it legal to be human and not to be harmful yet such a simple task is broken up by it very modules; the LAW. i have my share of stupidity which is unerasable from reality and yet if i were to reap some one... id rather kill my self and yet even if i am so i am equally some criminally viable candidate for having some shape being seen from my Pc connecting to my eyes in a form of light. and a president could blowup his own country if he desires, all he needs it power like backup and new law modifications to do so. who was superior to Saddam Hussein when he had power? who is controlling them now? if humans are capable of being criminals how would the ones making the laws be exempt from that? a cop can lie while you can not and yet lying is supposedly illegal or is it just technically? the net is an other planet that needs it own rules since it's effect on the real world is only what we makes of it. seeing all the porn i seen and not yet be a reapist means that the law does not take in to account that a rapist is a specific category or stat or attribute even when ill be 80( if i get there) and watching more and or worst will not make me rape, drugs might, alchol might but only if i let them. so does that mean the law assumes any sexually oriented crimes leads to rape or makes rapists? my moms dad raped her, all he needed was his own intentions to screw up her life. a depression is more than common in victims and yet this guy is out, how could we prove to authority he did it? so only crimes with substantial leads are pursued in all types of crimes. hence why were have impossibly and unexceptionably disgusting things such as "COLD FILES" which means if you got killed and it is too hard to solve or too costly, they get dropped and put aside for a wait instead of a cut back on effort to reduce cost and time, they just forget about it assuming criminals live only 100 or less years and a 65 yrs old entering prison as less to lose and its all about payback, a lawful vengeance hence why i would likely double vengeance my way out naturally. why do you think a lot of criminal become repeat offenders? vengeance is natural hence why the law is builded on it. oups im ranting... this is first post in 2-3 years in any form what so ever :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:33 15/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    also if loli 2d is illegal, than im screwed

    Comment by tyciol
    18:41 06/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Since the law applies to any depiction under 18 this really goes far beyond the scope of loli. Most people wouldn't consider Bulma or the yuri Sailour Scouts or Tuxedo Mask and Zoycite to be children, but legally they are minors and thus children since they're all 17.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:47 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This guy is from US, California that has the age at 18. For other states the age of consent ranges from 16-18, but not sure if porn is only 18+ in the states. There are movies that are NC-17...??

    Age of consent in Japan is only 13, though child porn is 18 or under (2D not included):
    http://www.interpol.int/public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaJapan.asp

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:48 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    soooo owning pretty baby would get you in jail? pretty baby is a film where brooke shields is nekkid and very 12. or very 14. either way.

    dicuss.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:21 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if the fbi came to my house, and asked to look at my hardrive, i'd of that sucker microwaved before you could even think up the words "p2p"

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:33 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the FBA came to your house, you would be lying on the floor handcuffed before you even realize wtf is going on.
    Or more likely, enter the house while you are out or not near your computer.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:08 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well...it all boils down to this:

    are you guys gonna sit here and bitch about it, or are you going to do something about it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:55 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Isn't Limewire rife with viruses..?(or at least that's what I've heard) o.o;;

    Comment by Red Comet
    01:34 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Limewire is rife with viruses and more often then not files are misnamed and stuffed inside a rar or zip.

    I'm surprised people still use limewire because about 20% of the peers are RIAA/MPAA trolls.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:28 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    what about if somoene really hate you and make a spyware on your pc for hiding image of child porn ??? and this also effect all other peoples on the Net too ??

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:20 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I didn't have the time to read all the comments, so it is possible that someone posted similar words like these:

    MY CHINESE COMRADES!! I BEG YOU!! FOR THE SAKE OF MANKIND!! PLEASE NUKE THE US!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ya, because out of the billion chinese NONE of them could possibly be pedos AMIRIGHT

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:09 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then we can have GHOULS and liek SUPERMUTANTS and the BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL with ENCLAVE! DO IT CHINA DO IT!

    Comment by Riiku
    00:29 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm starting to doubt the reality of all this CP possession cases. I dunno, it's so far away from me and my understanding. Here in Russia I can store and watch as many child porn as I want and no one would give a fuck even if I post it on the net under my name. Such situations as in article are totally bizzare and unrealistic to me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:27 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ONE THING TO SAY: DELETE YOUR FUCKING RECYCLE BIN CRAP. I mean... how do you accidentily download it? Oh! The porn said ages 13-17? I thought it was 18 +! Dumbtard.

    Comment by Red Comet
    01:36 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yah I seen people do some really stupid stuff like that.
    Or use the trash folder of their email to keep old contacts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:29 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    As TFA and about few hundred comments above you have stated, deleting files from your recycle bin isn't enough.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:07 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So the best thing to do is: smash and burn your hard disk.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:58 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A remeber a case a year or so ago where a US citizen was crossing back from Canada and the inspector somehow says he had cp on his laptop. the case went to the us courts and the guy got off because he said he did not remember the password to login. since it was in his head he is under no legal obligation to provide it. If his laptop had a fingerprint scanner like a lot do now he would be obligate to swipe his finger (physical vs mental). the popo could of easily made the hdd a slave, but they were dumb...

    Just make sure to open it up so a bunch of dust gets on the platter. Newer hdd's read so close to the platters that dust is larger...though knowing the way the US government works over local police they'll spend $1 million to clean it and read it in some special lab to put a guy away for 1-20 years.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:46 11/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I doubt it would work if I never set up my scanner, I keep forgetting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:06 10/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    pretty much of the sounds of it

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:04 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    because goverment cannot solve all another problems
    it's so democratique is'nt it? eat it! it's yours!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    u gotta be pretty dumb to use limewire for porn ~"~ either way, thats just not fair.. 20 years... hes only 22, that ruins his life... get some qualifications government before u lay stupid laws, not like he TRIED to download child porn...

    05:43 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the..? That's like arresting anyone who just apparently found a pack of cannabis left by someone in his mailbox..

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:44 09/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Damn, i'd feel pretty ripped off.






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