60% of Japanese Agree “Children are Unnecessary”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Dec 6, 2009 11:02 JST
- Tags: Babies, Demographics, Marriage, Pregnancy, Relationships, Statistics
Government surveys of the Japanese population reveal unprecedented numbers no longer see having children as “necessary,” with some 60% of men and women in their twenties and thirties seeing no need to bother reproducing.
The Cabinet Office public opinion polls, covering over 3,000 people, found an overall 38.7% of men and 46.4% of women saw no need to have children.
Of these, 63% of those in their twenties and 59% of those in their thirties had no interest in children.
Additionally, 55.1% of respondents opposed the statement “The husband should work outside and protect the family,” an increase of 3% from the previous survey.
The government explains the changes as being because “diversification of people’s ways of life has proceeded.”
Many are interpreting these results not so much as a lack of interest, but rather a lack of ability – general perceptions of both marriage and childrearing are that they are prohibitively expensive for those of only average means…
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and they are blaming the downfall of anime on fansubbing?
its totally because there is no longer a child fanbase to attract!
they need babies or their anime industry will fall
They won't be extinct but probably turn into something like the Tleilaxu
just means your anime collection will be worth millions...
They can see how it feels to be like their wolves and Iriomote cat in a few decades.
This is why Japan have many lolicons.
i can understand not wanting to bring children in to this fucked up world...
perfect! just when american military needs something to test their new weapons for killing, they need an involuntary country to take the bait. Guessed this survey should be seen by the american troops and divert the war from Iraq and shift it to Japan, they'd be glad to help killing unnecessary children there! time for post-extinction baby!
Nothing strange. Live in Japan for a while and you will understand. For a salaryman/woman a child is only the cost. In a society, where everything is very expensive and a human lives only on the salary children are absolutely unnecessary. In previous ages, where people lived in majority on their work in the field, children were a big help and evidently the insurance policy + retirement fund. When parents were too old to work in the field, children work and give protection and welfare to their parents. In situation, where retirement funds are obligatory for everybody and guaranteed by the state, no one wants to have children - it is always better to have pension funded by children of which raising costs were covered by other "jackasses".
yeah, except for the obvious problem the article's about - who replaces these people? Yes that makes sense from a purely monetary standpoint, however, that purely monetary standpoint is founded on a concept humans invented - basically money is make-believe, like time. Concepts our culture is built upon, and inseperable from.
These people have rather lost touch with some basic logic here. It's not a very well-thought out plan, kind of like using gum to seal a proverbial dam leak - sure it's incredibly cost effective for the moment, and works. But you're setting yourself up for amusing New Orleans-sized dam-related problems in the future...
Perhaps if the cost of living wasn't as high, people'd have money to raise children. However, that probably doesn't solve the "we don't need kids at all" mentality the Japanese seem to have - it's not worth the trouble to them.
then again, it's not worth the trouble to me, either... This post brought to you from out my own ass!
It's has always striken me as ironic that, all while birth rates in Japan have plunged, the overall ethnic japanese population across its many colonies worldwide has enjoyed a fairly healthy net growth. However that buys the motherland nothing, because nationalistic types have a hard time accepting even the idea of ethnic "pure" japanese descendants acquiring full citizenship.
I believe that in the end, when only about 17 ethnic japanese remain in the islands, they will start to more seriously consider the need for immigration - but then, they'll probably prefer to give citizenship rights to androids. -_-
Accepting such results in a cavalier manner will be detrimental to their nation, or have they forgotten that their birth rate is fukken low. This should spur a copy of the well-known Swedish(?) govt program to encourage procreation for the betterment of Japan.
Otherwise, easy takeover for China or N. Korea in the future.
But Japan is fucking crowded already. Stop being so selfish.
it is necessary where will ppl get loli porn?
This is becoming like Manabi Straight!.
Seriously, I think people are slowing moving over to their 2D man
Everything that's done is done for the best. And I say it would be best if humanity seized to exist.
Sure - after finishing their role in the creation of Machinekind.
Dd I say "their role"? Sorry, I meant "our role". Because, you know, I'm human too. Just like all you guys. Yeah, I'm a completely normal, boring, stupid smelling human meatbag just like the lot of you!
I am noooormal!!!
Holy shit... Are they so eager to plant the seed of extinction here?
I can't make anything out of this.....
Ouch. At this rate, it's not looking good for the Japanese population.
First there are more herbivorous men, then there were less people getting married, now they don't want children.
Having kids just to support the economy is likely the dumbest justification imaginable. Fuck the economy, it's not like that pattern of thinking can be sustained.
But Japan WILL suffer in the long term if rival nations refuse to limit their numbers. Granted I see the Chinese and people in India eventually having troubles feeding billions where everyone else is feeding millions.
All Japan has to do is TOTALLY close their borders and they will do just fine. It's the same with the US, all they need to do is shoot illegal Mexicans on sight and problem solved. Not that they can, as they let too many in and then allowed them to vote.
It's not about room either. Canada has room to waste, yet our population still needs to EXPAND to maintain the economic status quo.
But I have a son, and I think he's the best thing that ever happened to me. Picking a career over having kids, on the basis of a career is 'better' is fucked in the head thinking. Abstaining from having kids on the basis of you can't provide for them might be a good reason though. But there is one firm rule. If you wait till 'you can afford them' get used to being childless.
How retarded are you? Since when does the US let illegals vote? You are either some dumb redneck or don't live in the US.
At Anon 13:22
Open your eyes, the current party in the White House are making serious power plays as far as the national census that and the fact that Nancy Pelosi wants to provide millions of current Illegals amnesty and Drivers Licenses so they can work.
Hence the right to vote for them...
One of many reasons why I wrote in Ron Paul during the past election.
Well, we'll just have to count on the other 40%. Good luck, 40%! The future of my anime rests on your shoulders.
Good God, they need to do way instain mother...
Well, children are a financial burden to most people.
Does Japan lack government backing to fund children-related programs?
Not one person in the Japanese government atm is below 60years of age,not one.
The reason they gave about these results shows how unable they are to maneuver around this obstacle(and a whole many others like teen prostitution etc).
I think that as long Japanese have their racial trait of having complete and unwavering faith in their leadership the problems are only going to escalate :S.
I may be completely wrong tho.I hope I am at least.
Well... They did vote against the then ruling party... And elected the opposition... So MAYBE things could get better?
::sigh:: Looks like I'll lose that bet with my brother about the japanese dieing out...
now if only Africa would think this way...
Africa isn't a problem. The average family is lucky if two of their 5+ children reach adulthood. In some African countries half the population has AIDS (which there is spread by heterosexual sex - the husbands fucking others than their wives e.g. because of being lonely working in a faraway city to support his family), and a lot of children who die before the age of 7 because of being born with AIDS. Essentially, they HAVE to outbreed the amount of child deaths lest they all die out - and no, that would not be a good thing no matter how much the KKKers want it to be.
I see something similar to what happened in the Clones Wars happening in Japan in the future.
Babies will be cloned in huge labs.
Not sure if they'll ware the armor but some of them probably will.
GLORIOUS NIPPON will slowly become extinct.
that was lolworthy. america is weeding out the weak babies with "baby hammocks" there was a story in the news recently about the baby hammocks suffocating babies......baby doom!
But children are unnecessary =C
I mean look at all the shitty products coming from the Chinese sweatshops
Dont be dumb Fai this an article not just a thread.
Japan is fucked. If there aren't enough of a new generation and their old generation gets outed, they're gonna be in a tough predicament. Solution: immigration. But alas their Xenophobic attitude will be their downfall. Either produce more babies or perish Japan.
... I see ban-hammer incoming for thread-necromancing...
My thoughts exactly, also my mind feels calm a little. Thanks to your nice comment.
I am disgusted at over half the posts here.
Japan does not have a birthrate problem, they have an overpopulation problem. There are too many retired people chasing after the salaries of too few people coming into the system. The reason people aren't having kids is because it costs too damn much and thus doesn't make sense logically. That is the market cooking up a solution to the population problem. There are too many people competing for too few resources, so the cost of everything rises and living becomes that much harder. Bringing less people in the system is exactly what they need to reign in the cost of living. Instead of fighting the cure they should be embracing it. Maybe they'll have some elbow room in a couple generations if they keep it up.
If Japan depopulates down to like 100,000 Japanese then the people that say the Japanese are going extinct might have a point, but we all know that's not going to happen.
My thoughts exactly, also my mind feels calm a little. Thanks to your nice comment.
I have nothing to say against this trend. I don't ever want any children either, nor do I see the point of marriage, since I'm an atheist, not to mention it only brings disadvantages and no advantages, especially in case of any future divorce, if that should happen. And lord knows our planet earth would be happy if our numbers went down a little instead of continuing to grow. Course, I wouldn't want the japanese to die out, that would mean no manga or anime. ^^ To anyone thinking I'm too extreme: careface.
I'm not surprised the Japanese population is declining.
and the remaining 40% of Japan are too busy with their families to leave a statement
If only the western world (and china) thought that way too.
China does and it's strictly enforced remember their one child policy.
Great insight. My highest salute to the Japanese young generation. Maybe it can inspire all those retards in the poor areas to stop breeding like rats and pollute Earth with more retarded brats...
Yep, 20 years give or take a few years and I'll be ready to move to Japan.
They'll be desperate for inmigrants by then.
I can assure you that they won't be desperate for people like you.
I wish the rest of the world thought the same way.
That remembers me of the fact that more and more females in the age of 40+ get testube babies so there sure will always be some babies.
Women near the age of 40 have a higher chance of having a baby with genetic abonormalities.
Its a scientific fact.
Actually, the chances of giving birth to a baby with genetic defects increases as early as age 25. If a woman wants to have children she should do it before she's 25. Evolutionarily and throughout the majority of human history, women have been bearing children from their early-mid teens. Go against evolution and suffer the consequences at your baby's risk.
http://www.musckids.com/health_library/hrpregnant/over30.htm
^I agree with this avatar
a drop of quality?
I really haven't checked how much these testube babies are good for.And i even don't know how long they are using that.
But a 40y old women can have more problems which could effect the childs health,eh even when test tube are there,it's still the same genetical risk i think.But hey those are just some increased factors,they don't need to happen at all.
the best idea would be that the Japanese government created artificial insemination children and that the Japanese government itself bring up these children
there would be no families, women and men would only have to give sperm and uterus to create these children with artifisial insemination.
sorry for my english is not my native lenguaje
I'm a cattle grower in the United States. Artificial insemination is the key to producing a superior herd. Go for the whole eugenics thing, it got a bad reputation after WWII. You're on the right track.
BTW, your English skills are far superior to my Japanese skills.
That would be a horror.
If children were raised by the State, and given the values convenient to the State, they all would be drones.
"Citizens... must consume. Big Brother [George Orwell '1984' reference, not ero-ge reference] is good..."
That is just paranoia.
That is total bullshit. I have seen a lot of orphans who are better persons that 90% of the population. Kind, caring, loyal, honest, devoted, independent and responsible, the kinds that are very rare and that this world should have more of. Maybe we will all become better persons if we are all orphans.
>> only have to give sperm and uterus.
Brb, loling hard.
He is basically saying that to make one baby you need a sperm from the father and kill the mother to get her uterus.
I read somewhere about scientists working on creating an artificial womb. I can't remember yet if they've been successful yet, but it certainly will come.
If a woman wants a baby she just has to go to a sperm bank.
Once we have artificial wombs, gender equality for men will be reached as well.
"gender equality for men" what the hell does that even mean.
>>..uterus.
Lol, one organ for one baby? What is this, FMA's human transmutation formula?
I'll do the shafting :P
Although it wouldn't be equivalent exchange. The women would be clearly getting shafted.
20 to 30.That is probably too late already,it's when they lose interest when they think of everything.
Now 18 and a little younger get together easier and have children.At least i keep noticing those that were 18y old and a little younger having children,guess they are more attractive somehow.
One way to help against this if women train their body to make them good.
Yes girls who are 18 and younger are more attractive, welcome to Sankaku.
Actually japanese woman look even often with 28 like a teenager...
Your words are my hero.
i doubt that only looks count,it's more of an age thing.
The most perfect time to breed,to get the best results.
So many hormones, it's just so hard to resist them.
Because of this Islam will rule the world.
Wrong. People just need to re-attach their balls and fight it. You can fight it by replacing yourself and your partner....have at least two kids. They're not as expensive as you think they are if you have a stable job. Of course, you're not going to live in a palace with a crown of diamonds, but is that really the purpose of life anyway?
this means they have won over the enemy XD
At least their breeding is supported in such means.
Unfortunately.
cockroaches and rats will out breed the enlightened civilizations
islam = cockroaches and rats.
eh I dunno Koreans are the second best talent compared to japan if japan goes under.
Korea only exists because of Japan, so sorry.
Koreans really think highly of themselves. All they do is copy japan.
Sorry the world doesn't care about korea.
I saw this South Korean movie called D-WAR (dragon wars).
It was a piece of shit movie.
I also watched Taegukgi: The Brotherhood of War
It was also a piece of shit movie.
I think I've made my point about Korean talent here.
I saw this Japanese anime called K-ON!
It was a piece of shit anime.
I also watched Lucky Star.
It was also a piece of shit anime.
Japan isn't doing any better lately.
I lol'd at this one^
At least Japan has made a lot of good animes and movies. While Korea has only made shit so far.
D-War and Taegukgi do not represent the general quality of the Korean art and entertainment. As a Korean I can proudly tell that there are even more abysmal ones out there... :(
lol at the ongoing war of wapanese and... korean-wannabes?
2D will rule us all!
I just don't get these surveys. They have millions of people in their country and they only ask a few thousand of them and present them as everyone.
It's called taking a sample. They can't afford the money & time to ask everyone, so they will ask 1-in-10 or 1-in-100 or whatever they feel is a significant enough slice of whichever population they are polling in. Someone who's studied statistical mathematics could explain it better probably.
Read "The Manga Guide to Statistics" (I bought a copy and recommend it):
http://www.amazon.com/Manga-Guide-Statistics-Shin-Takahashi/dp/1593271891
Less money spent on worthless kids, the more money you have so you can buy all the DVDs of Endless Eight.
we need to switch this feeling of not wanting kids to America and China
something like "Final Approach" is gonna happen soon?
Japan is gonna have real problems in a few years if they don't start turning out more kids?
Japan won't exist in a few years if they don't start having kids or don't increase immigration.
imigration is the only way now, it's too late to just have more kids unless every couple had like 15-20 kids it won't make a difference now. They need to import Mexicans/slave-laborers.
as a malaysian... i am willing to be imported there.. i can make robots
How about NO.
I liked it back when Mexicans/slave-laborers were called Chinese, Koreans, Filipinos, and Malaysians