The ancient Chinese execution method known as “death by a thousand cuts,” or in Chinese as Ling Chi or Leng T’che, which as the name suggests involves slicing apart a live criminal, is documented in the grotesque yet fascinating photographic record reproduced below:
The actual practice, though undeniably brutal, differs somewhat from the mythologised version in which victims are slowly sliced into thousands of pieces over days in order to prolong their suffering to untold levels.
Historians think instead that the practice normally took the form of tying down the subject before a crowd, and then slicing off breasts, major muscles and eventually limbs and the head in a process unlikely to have lasted more than half an hour. Death must have occurred long before the procedure was complete.
“Merciful” variations might involve drugging the subject or dispatching them with a blow to the heart early on in the process.
These photographs date from 1904 (they were taken by French observers); the practice was finally abolished in 1905 after being a common punishment for a thousand years. Other grisly execution practices at the time included killing the entire family of the accused or leaving them in a cage to expire naturally.
Death by a "Thousand Cuts"? Fuck the dude was peeled four times and then beheaded!
Where the Fuck was the other 995 cuts?! And added to boot, the slice-ee looked dead after the fourth peel! If they're going to call it "death by a thousand cuts" I figured they use blunted bread cutters run across the body by many people a thousand times! Shear exhaustion by that would probably kill the dude and satisfy any bit of rage by the town I'd wager.
When thinking about Chinese accusations of Japanese Army`s cruelty against Chinese people in 1930s, as in Nanking & elsewhere which are correct indeed, and now seeing this, makes you think that some Chinese want to monopolize torture & cruelty for themselves.
Well, aren't we glad that the Manchus are out of power, and the real "Chinese" are back in. But that doesn't say much for the malpractices and mental slavery is completely wiped away, yet.
LULZ at all the butthurt Chinese showing up. Sancon bashes just about every country on the planet. Don't act like you're so special that you should be spared.
Whoa this some crazy ass shit, kinda made my head spin a bit with how unnatural it seems to carve a dude up bit by bit alive. Dude could be Hitler and I couldn't do it to him.
Guess I was born with antiKill floating subconsiously within me. OMG Sankaku is teaching me shit about myself, who needs a shrink?
Well you love China and chinese people, who cares anyways. This happened a long time ago, though their government continues executing people, worse things happen in the world.
Communism better than monarchy? Dictators mean something to you? About the practice shown in the pics only i can say that only blood thirsty humans can do something like that. You cannot call your self a decent person and do that to another, no matter the crime. For family, country and honor.
Well in theory (like most things) communism is quite sound. It's just that went it's put into real world use dictators result as a byproduct of human nature. That's why there are still so many scandals and conspiracies (albeit hidden ones) in supposedly democratic countries (I'll let you pick which ones).
Well negative articles on Japan do get published here, but Sankaku-ers are conditioned by long exposure to hentai to think that loli rape and other sex crimes are natural part of everyday life and nothing immoral whatsoever.
Well you have to consider what the main theme of this site is and then look at who are the target audience. It's similar with politicians. They never put blame on bad parenting or at the very least make some light note of it then compare it to something that overshadows it because they don't want to lose votes. People here don't care about the wrongs of Japan because they already know or just don't want to (denial) because it puts there interest into Japan in bad light. But they do care about the bad things that happen all around else where, because well...people pretty much know nothing about it or in relation and thats' where all the views go to. It's just unfortunate that there are ignorant sods that do build up this negative only image just on these articles.
Ah, Unit 731. For those who don't know, this was a unit of the Imperial Japanese army devoted to research on chemical and biological warfare. They would perform disturbing experiments on "common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the secret police for alleged 'suspicious activities'". Most were Chinese, Korean, or Russian, but of course there were others.
Dismemberment and reattachment of limbs, forced impregnation and abortions, removal of organs in living specimens (including the rather uncomfortable practice of removing an individual's stomach and attaching their esophagus directly to their intestines), testing weapons on live targets, among other things.
Do note that I'm not bringing it up to inflate the "anti-Japanese" argument, but a few people here don't seem to be educated particularly well. Sad thing is several of the scientists involved were completely home free, and a few even ended up working for the American government. You could probably get more information yourselves through Google and Wikipedia.
Despite what the lot of you might want to believe, Imperial Japan was no better than the Nazis.
Well, we have come a long way, now people are just openly stoned to death in the streets and killed with their whole families as they sleep in their beds, some are still hung and the guillotine seems to not be in use. Thats the world in a nut shell for ya, entertainment in death with death and in some cases, the crowd participating in the executions.
hey chrhndy,...what if this guy raped or murdered one of your kin, because that's what this guys probably guilty of. they didn't do this shit for no reason, it was also meant to instill fear into people who were more susceptible to initiating a crime. and ya know what 9/10 times the guy deserved it, so i hope he got exactly what he deserved.
i agree that probably the executed man was a sadist criminal or anyone like that... but if you were his parent, you wouldn't want your son to end his life like this no matter how screwed up he was, right?
Nothing special here. It's too bad only this particular execution happend to be done close up with camera's around. If you think this is bad and inhumane, think about the the punishments in other countries and earlier times. Like, think about seeing a person's expression as they are burned at the stake for something as simple as not agreeing with society (or nothing at all), or drawn and quartered or see videos of people's hands get cut off for stealing to eat. Hell way back in Europe it was illegal for villages to not have a dunking chair. Think about it, is it really any more humane to slowly drown someone to death than to perform Ling Chi? Of course it is, there's no blood if you drown them so it's more okay that way right? Easier to brush off and forget about. How about this, think about forms of torture used by agencies and gangs around the world behind closed doors like dental torture and other things the world hasn't even heard or seen of before. Here's another one, is it really that much more humane to vaporize tens of thousands in an instant with a nuclear blast? How about using posion gas to liquify people's lungs? Too bad their aren't too many films that capture someone writhing on the ground and clawing their throat off trying to breathe. Of course, we're much more civilized now than cutting people up into little pieces. We just shoot them into little pieces instead. It's faster that way. Not to mention everyone still has the excuse of war. Want to kill some people you don't like without having your whole country rise up and so no? Just say it must be done to protect and you're good to go. Just make sure the war is far away so no one can get a clear picture of what is being done besides the information channels the government allows. Yes, we are all much better than the inhumane China of last century. They were fools anyway. Fools for not keeping stuff like this as seperate from the people as possible. Not too mention how slow they were. There are way too many people to execute now than to use traditional methods like the rack, limb chopping (we don't need to chop anymore, we have grenades and mines to do that), Ling Chi, burning (unless it's with air-dropped napalm), and drowning. Like I said, nothing special here.
guess only the first minutes are painful, having your breast carved out should hurt a lot. on the other side in some cases the executioner stabbed his heart afterwards and proceeded the torture on the dead body. And even if he would not have been stabbed the heart, he would´ve fainted soon afterwards, like when they started carving out his biceps or cutting off one limb after the another~
If it was for me, such and even harder punishments would be there for criminals. I hate criminals more than anything, they are the scum of the scum of humanity.
They should suffer the most possible horrible things on this earth before dying, those goddamn maggots.
You cannot say such a thing. You know this as a punishment for some who disobeyed the law, however, you don't know what exact crime he commited, and how fair was his trial.
Not all crimes must have such a inhuman execution such as this as consequence, and torture is something that is entirely wrong to moral rights. One thing is executing a man for a crime, torturing him with extreme pain and then killing him is something entirely different.
I don't know about other countries, but there's a good reason the U.S. Constitution's Eighth Amendment reads:
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Would you feel the same about such harsh punishments of criminals if you or someone you loved were WRONGLY CONVICTED of a crime and sentenced to slowly die?
Abuse of governmental power has happened many times; and simple errors have led to wrong convictions, which were later overturned.
Are you perhaps one of those people who tries to make him/herself feel better about their unhappy life by exercising harsh power against "lower life-forms"?
But it hasn't done the Americans much fucking good, as their government casually ignores or circumvents it (building CIA/military torture facilities in other countries).
Communist Russia had an excellent Constitution, but it was ignored by their government.
Oh come on, you're talking like every second convicted is fucking innocent.
They're not.
Most of the convicted are in fact, guilty. Especially in heavier crimes, like murder. Sure, innocent are convicted sometimes, but most of the time they are convicted for trivial things, such as stealing etc.
And I was actually referring to heavy criminals when I was talking about those punishments.
translated from anon from above: (from google and me)
"Ridiculous, obviously, that each country has its Dark Ages. This was a few hundred years ago,and those are pictures from the Qing Dynasty. Is this insinuation now wish to bring up China? This is not irrational."
Obviously that every country has its dark ages, but it doesnt matter. Whats happened has happened. China still is cruel to its people since they do not apologize to the people and even cover it up with lies. Like the pro democracy movement. If China really wishes to move on, they need to take the first step into taking in their faults and correct them.
And what does that have to do with something that rarely happened almost a century ago? Oh wait, it doesn't matter, and what happened has happened.
China has made leaps and bounds the past decades, just because you're ignorant of them doesn't mean you can feel free to relate this to the modern state of affairs.
The western perception of língchí has often differed considerably from the actual practice, and some misconceptions persist to the present. The distinction between the sensationalized Western myth and the Chinese reality was noted by Westerners as early as 1895. That year, Australian traveler G.E. Morrison, who claimed to have witnessed an execution by slicing, wrote that "Ling Chi [was] commonly, and quite wrongly, translated as 'death by slicing into 10,000 pieces' — a truly awful description of a punishment whose cruelty has been extraordinarily misrepresented ... The mutilation is ghastly and excites our horror as an example of barbarian cruelty; but it is not cruel, and need not excite our horror, since the mutilation is done, not before death, but after.
:: 13:52 04/12/200, translated n summarised by a non-Chinese, who speaks English and Japanese too ::
I like your direct views, shows that you understand China. Lemme explain China's current state.
We don't have to discuss Nankin, it's a long unresolved problem.
It is true that not everyone may be as well off as me, but the number of poor has been decreasing steadily these ten years. I am from a small town, and I am very clear that for my living conditions, it has been improving for the past ten years.
Our government has been always thinking of improving the life of the farmers/workers etc. through subsides etc. Us merchants are even slightly envious of that. Even rural areas have access to internet and small cars now. The truth is sweatshops and poor farmers still exist, but it is impossible to fully wipe it out, but the gov is trying.
It is true that there are corrupt officials, but the cities are overcrowded, and officials are too many, making it difficult to prevent, but we are changing. You're welcome to watch our news, which has shown corrupt officials being brought to justice.
We know that our internet is censored, and that the gov does not like to have its influence undermined, however we are not stupid. We find other methods to access the outside world. It (censorship) is not as severe as you think. Look, I'm even replying to your comments now. Thanks for your concerns.
I value an interaction of equals, and hope to continue interacting. I would also like to know your country and name (referring to prev anon post i think), and I'll remember it as you speak most fairly amongst my foreign correspondents, as well as others. I am YF from Guandong province.
::i am not the author, merely tranlating post 13:52 04/12/200::
Another Chinese buying into the propaganda. Chinese seem to think that no textbooks mentioned Nanking in Japan. They don't seem to understand that in Japan, each school buys their own textbook, that textbooks aren't printed by the central government instead by private publishers.
In reality there are very few school adopted these textbooks that omits the horrifying events happend in Nanking. Less than what you could count in one hand in fact. And further more, the parents of the students who goes to these school actually prefer their kids to study the regular textbook that teaches the event on their own time as well. Since the incident is part of the national standarized exam. Not studying it means you're likely to fail.
I'm not saying that Japanese don't whitewash their history. But seriously, do research with multiple sources before you start talking as if everybody else in the world are ploting something against the Chinese.
And you said that you Chinese are living comfortably. But are you a good example of the whole Chinese population? Can you honestly tell me that you represent how majority of Chinese live at your age?
My company has a few factory outsourced to rural parts of China, I've been there and I've seem how people can be exploited just because they're not prevlaged. I've seen how easy it is for us to brib officials to bulldoze a few homes to build our facilities without ever compensating the home owners. The fact even at this day and age the communist party still imposes nation wide internet filtering says a lot about their mentality.
Obviously Sankaku has a lot of negative bias toward China, and to large extend Japan as well. But don't try to make it seems like modern China is without major problems.
do not mix up chinese with communists party. they are different things at all. communists party is just a political party it do not represent a country or what so ever.
dont get so excited lol
I don't think any one is blaming China for such acts from the past, like you say every country had his dark-ages. One would, or rather should, see this article as a curiosity of the fact that such rare photo's have survived and for it's historical context.
At least I don't get any negative insinuations from it.
So any crimes done back in those times lead to this punishment or were these left to more terrible crimes??
Also when I thought Death by 1k cuts, i was thinking of cuts that miss the major arteries instead of dismemberment.
I'm sure right now my face got turned like after watching two girls one cup...
*fap* *fap*
looks like anything on SC is fappable
Please tell me this is a guro manga!!
Fucking sick and inhumane...fucking shit my lunch is all over my keyboard now thanks alot Artefact.
oh my god.
this world is so fucked up.
Seriously, God should cleanse the earth again with water!
thanks OP, i came buckets
As inhuman and awful as this torture is it is nothing compared to the agony of "Endless Eight".
gore xtreme!!!
Death by a "Thousand Cuts"? Fuck the dude was peeled four times and then beheaded!
Where the Fuck was the other 995 cuts?! And added to boot, the slice-ee looked dead after the fourth peel! If they're going to call it "death by a thousand cuts" I figured they use blunted bread cutters run across the body by many people a thousand times! Shear exhaustion by that would probably kill the dude and satisfy any bit of rage by the town I'd wager.
its china's quality, what did you expect ? an exact 1000 cuts ?
should of pulled raped them like they did in nanking, OHKO!
When thinking about Chinese accusations of Japanese Army`s cruelty against Chinese people in 1930s, as in Nanking & elsewhere which are correct indeed, and now seeing this, makes you think that some Chinese want to monopolize torture & cruelty for themselves.
Criminal executions and the killing of innocents are both totally different things dumbass.
Did he died?
Well, aren't we glad that the Manchus are out of power, and the real "Chinese" are back in. But that doesn't say much for the malpractices and mental slavery is completely wiped away, yet.
she's too old
pffffffff holy shit
wow thats pretty bad. When i first read it I thought it sad death by a thousand cats.
LULZ at all the butthurt Chinese showing up. Sancon bashes just about every country on the planet. Don't act like you're so special that you should be spared.
Whoa this some crazy ass shit, kinda made my head spin a bit with how unnatural it seems to carve a dude up bit by bit alive. Dude could be Hitler and I couldn't do it to him.
Guess I was born with antiKill floating subconsiously within me. OMG Sankaku is teaching me shit about myself, who needs a shrink?
Oh gosh...that's really terrible...
我愛中國!
我愛中國人!
^Anon fag thinks no one else can read this.
Well you love China and chinese people, who cares anyways. This happened a long time ago, though their government continues executing people, worse things happen in the world.
Gee, I joined this site to read sex-related news, not gore and cruelty like that. Now I really need to find some big tits idol to look at.
I wish I can have a death like this. Insted of dieing of in a hospital, nornal death are boring.
I recommend suicide bombing it will blow your mind away
they should do this to phedofiles
Communism better than monarchy? Dictators mean something to you? About the practice shown in the pics only i can say that only blood thirsty humans can do something like that. You cannot call your self a decent person and do that to another, no matter the crime. For family, country and honor.
Well in theory (like most things) communism is quite sound. It's just that went it's put into real world use dictators result as a byproduct of human nature. That's why there are still so many scandals and conspiracies (albeit hidden ones) in supposedly democratic countries (I'll let you pick which ones).
I liek my pork chop raw...
I wonder whether any of the Rape of Nanking or Unit 731 has ever shown up on Sankaku Complex....
Well negative articles on Japan do get published here, but Sankaku-ers are conditioned by long exposure to hentai to think that loli rape and other sex crimes are natural part of everyday life and nothing immoral whatsoever.
Well you have to consider what the main theme of this site is and then look at who are the target audience. It's similar with politicians. They never put blame on bad parenting or at the very least make some light note of it then compare it to something that overshadows it because they don't want to lose votes. People here don't care about the wrongs of Japan because they already know or just don't want to (denial) because it puts there interest into Japan in bad light. But they do care about the bad things that happen all around else where, because well...people pretty much know nothing about it or in relation and thats' where all the views go to. It's just unfortunate that there are ignorant sods that do build up this negative only image just on these articles.
Ah, Unit 731. For those who don't know, this was a unit of the Imperial Japanese army devoted to research on chemical and biological warfare. They would perform disturbing experiments on "common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the secret police for alleged 'suspicious activities'". Most were Chinese, Korean, or Russian, but of course there were others.
Dismemberment and reattachment of limbs, forced impregnation and abortions, removal of organs in living specimens (including the rather uncomfortable practice of removing an individual's stomach and attaching their esophagus directly to their intestines), testing weapons on live targets, among other things.
Do note that I'm not bringing it up to inflate the "anti-Japanese" argument, but a few people here don't seem to be educated particularly well. Sad thing is several of the scientists involved were completely home free, and a few even ended up working for the American government. You could probably get more information yourselves through Google and Wikipedia.
Despite what the lot of you might want to believe, Imperial Japan was no better than the Nazis.
now THAT is art.
They are totally jerking off to his pain. Schadenfreude much?
Humans are amazing creatures aren't they
有个只讲中国好话的网站:http://www.yzw19.com/ 一周网
dmn china u scary
holy crap
Who's in for some Chinese cold cuts?! lol
WELL.
I didn't need to see that.
mmm hmm fascinating
Well, fuck.
Well, we have come a long way, now people are just openly stoned to death in the streets and killed with their whole families as they sleep in their beds, some are still hung and the guillotine seems to not be in use. Thats the world in a nut shell for ya, entertainment in death with death and in some cases, the crowd participating in the executions.
Is this what they do to pedo in ancient China? I guess the party van isn't so bad...
What a painful death. >_>
一堆五毛黨 lots of 5 mao party
多上上twitter吧 You should use twitter
uhh.. This is just too fucked up
Really.. There's no reason to post shit like this
oh god!
2D Guro >>> 3d Guro
I feel sad and sorry for the executed man. May his soul rest in peace.
May this horrid act never happen again.
hey chrhndy,...what if this guy raped or murdered one of your kin, because that's what this guys probably guilty of. they didn't do this shit for no reason, it was also meant to instill fear into people who were more susceptible to initiating a crime. and ya know what 9/10 times the guy deserved it, so i hope he got exactly what he deserved.
i agree that probably the executed man was a sadist criminal or anyone like that... but if you were his parent, you wouldn't want your son to end his life like this no matter how screwed up he was, right?
Nothing special here. It's too bad only this particular execution happend to be done close up with camera's around. If you think this is bad and inhumane, think about the the punishments in other countries and earlier times. Like, think about seeing a person's expression as they are burned at the stake for something as simple as not agreeing with society (or nothing at all), or drawn and quartered or see videos of people's hands get cut off for stealing to eat. Hell way back in Europe it was illegal for villages to not have a dunking chair. Think about it, is it really any more humane to slowly drown someone to death than to perform Ling Chi? Of course it is, there's no blood if you drown them so it's more okay that way right? Easier to brush off and forget about. How about this, think about forms of torture used by agencies and gangs around the world behind closed doors like dental torture and other things the world hasn't even heard or seen of before. Here's another one, is it really that much more humane to vaporize tens of thousands in an instant with a nuclear blast? How about using posion gas to liquify people's lungs? Too bad their aren't too many films that capture someone writhing on the ground and clawing their throat off trying to breathe. Of course, we're much more civilized now than cutting people up into little pieces. We just shoot them into little pieces instead. It's faster that way. Not to mention everyone still has the excuse of war. Want to kill some people you don't like without having your whole country rise up and so no? Just say it must be done to protect and you're good to go. Just make sure the war is far away so no one can get a clear picture of what is being done besides the information channels the government allows. Yes, we are all much better than the inhumane China of last century. They were fools anyway. Fools for not keeping stuff like this as seperate from the people as possible. Not too mention how slow they were. There are way too many people to execute now than to use traditional methods like the rack, limb chopping (we don't need to chop anymore, we have grenades and mines to do that), Ling Chi, burning (unless it's with air-dropped napalm), and drowning. Like I said, nothing special here.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
guess only the first minutes are painful, having your breast carved out should hurt a lot. on the other side in some cases the executioner stabbed his heart afterwards and proceeded the torture on the dead body. And even if he would not have been stabbed the heart, he would´ve fainted soon afterwards, like when they started carving out his biceps or cutting off one limb after the another~
wish they would have clearer pictures of this
Thank you! US!!
You put up the necessary massacre for lraq and Afghanistan right now.
Oh, and it is in colour.
and to add to that in HD
1080p of GORE!!!!!!!!
Hah nothing beats classic pictures beside getting bomb kills you within seconds, you can only dream to die immediately on that chinese cuts!
WTF?!
That's totally fine in my opinion.
If it was for me, such and even harder punishments would be there for criminals. I hate criminals more than anything, they are the scum of the scum of humanity.
They should suffer the most possible horrible things on this earth before dying, those goddamn maggots.
You cannot say such a thing. You know this as a punishment for some who disobeyed the law, however, you don't know what exact crime he commited, and how fair was his trial.
Not all crimes must have such a inhuman execution such as this as consequence, and torture is something that is entirely wrong to moral rights. One thing is executing a man for a crime, torturing him with extreme pain and then killing him is something entirely different.
I don't know about other countries, but there's a good reason the U.S. Constitution's Eighth Amendment reads:
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
Would you feel the same about such harsh punishments of criminals if you or someone you loved were WRONGLY CONVICTED of a crime and sentenced to slowly die?
Abuse of governmental power has happened many times; and simple errors have led to wrong convictions, which were later overturned.
Are you perhaps one of those people who tries to make him/herself feel better about their unhappy life by exercising harsh power against "lower life-forms"?
America has a great Constitution!
But it hasn't done the Americans much fucking good, as their government casually ignores or circumvents it (building CIA/military torture facilities in other countries).
Communist Russia had an excellent Constitution, but it was ignored by their government.
Oh come on, you're talking like every second convicted is fucking innocent.
They're not.
Most of the convicted are in fact, guilty. Especially in heavier crimes, like murder. Sure, innocent are convicted sometimes, but most of the time they are convicted for trivial things, such as stealing etc.
And I was actually referring to heavy criminals when I was talking about those punishments.
They deserve them.
"Didn't you ever hear the phrase "An innocent life is worth more than a thousand guilty ones"."
The criminal is already dying, even if he is innocent. This way just more bastards would get what they deserve.
discounts?
Didn't you ever hear the phrase "An innocent life is worth more than a thousand guilty ones".
That's an almost criminal level of malice you've been harboring.
可笑,显然有读过书的人都知道每个国家都有黑暗时代。这是中国数百年前清朝的照片。难道想拿这个影射现在的中国?这是不理性的。
大哥,你说中文他们看不懂的
Oh man, smart anon thinks no one reads chinese
w8 wut?
translated from anon from above: (from google and me)
"Ridiculous, obviously, that each country has its Dark Ages. This was a few hundred years ago,and those are pictures from the Qing Dynasty. Is this insinuation now wish to bring up China? This is not irrational."
Obviously that every country has its dark ages, but it doesnt matter. Whats happened has happened. China still is cruel to its people since they do not apologize to the people and even cover it up with lies. Like the pro democracy movement. If China really wishes to move on, they need to take the first step into taking in their faults and correct them.
And what does that have to do with something that rarely happened almost a century ago? Oh wait, it doesn't matter, and what happened has happened.
China has made leaps and bounds the past decades, just because you're ignorant of them doesn't mean you can feel free to relate this to the modern state of affairs.
The western perception of língchí has often differed considerably from the actual practice, and some misconceptions persist to the present. The distinction between the sensationalized Western myth and the Chinese reality was noted by Westerners as early as 1895. That year, Australian traveler G.E. Morrison, who claimed to have witnessed an execution by slicing, wrote that "Ling Chi [was] commonly, and quite wrongly, translated as 'death by slicing into 10,000 pieces' — a truly awful description of a punishment whose cruelty has been extraordinarily misrepresented ... The mutilation is ghastly and excites our horror as an example of barbarian cruelty; but it is not cruel, and need not excite our horror, since the mutilation is done, not before death, but after.
你的意见很中肯,我很喜欢,因为你很了解中国。那么请让我跟你讨论一下中国现状吧。
关于南京大屠杀,我想我们都没必要讨论这个,这是个长久未解决的问题,我们没必要讨论。
然后关于我的生活环境,的确所有中国人的生活都不一定都跟我一样富裕。但是比起10年前的中国,穷人的数量却在不断减少。我很有体会,因为我只是一个小县城的人,但是在这城市里10年间发生的事情我很清楚。我们的生活越来越好。
而贫穷的人口,我们的政府一直都在想办法让他们富裕起来。最明显的是中央政府今年颁布的政策全部都是利好于农业与农民、以及工人的。基本上让我们商人有点妒忌。现在的农民生产、医疗都有政府资助。很多地方都接上了网络,开上小轿车。然而像一些血汗工厂或者贫困农民,在中国确实存在。这也是中国宽阔的土地上而无法完全兼顾的。这就是政府的难处,而他们也在不断改善,而我们富裕阶层也经常为他们募款。
而一些强势的官员,是存在的。因为中国城市多,官员也多。贪污舞弊比比皆是,且难以阻止。不过我们已经在改善,欢迎您查看最近中国的新闻,你会发现重庆市最近抓捕了许多贪官,而且会继续。
网络上的过滤是肯定的,政府一直担心国民吸纳了对政府不利的信息。但是这种事情,我们都知道的。比如新疆的。但是我们并不愚蠢,我们喜欢通过各种手段访问外部。而且也并不是过滤得很严重。瞧,咱们现在不就在聊敏感的话题嘛!所以谢谢你们的担心。
而我认为平等的交流是必须的,希望能跟你再次交流。另外我希望知道你的国籍跟姓名。我会记住你的名字,你是我见过的说话最公平的外国朋友。当然还有很多。我是来自中国广东的YF。
:: 13:52 04/12/200, translated n summarised by a non-Chinese, who speaks English and Japanese too ::
I like your direct views, shows that you understand China. Lemme explain China's current state.
We don't have to discuss Nankin, it's a long unresolved problem.
It is true that not everyone may be as well off as me, but the number of poor has been decreasing steadily these ten years. I am from a small town, and I am very clear that for my living conditions, it has been improving for the past ten years.
Our government has been always thinking of improving the life of the farmers/workers etc. through subsides etc. Us merchants are even slightly envious of that. Even rural areas have access to internet and small cars now. The truth is sweatshops and poor farmers still exist, but it is impossible to fully wipe it out, but the gov is trying.
It is true that there are corrupt officials, but the cities are overcrowded, and officials are too many, making it difficult to prevent, but we are changing. You're welcome to watch our news, which has shown corrupt officials being brought to justice.
We know that our internet is censored, and that the gov does not like to have its influence undermined, however we are not stupid. We find other methods to access the outside world. It (censorship) is not as severe as you think. Look, I'm even replying to your comments now. Thanks for your concerns.
I value an interaction of equals, and hope to continue interacting. I would also like to know your country and name (referring to prev anon post i think), and I'll remember it as you speak most fairly amongst my foreign correspondents, as well as others. I am YF from Guandong province.
::i am not the author, merely tranlating post 13:52 04/12/200::
Anyone wants to take a jab at translating this wall of Chinese characters(Google translate sucks...)?
I'm chinese, the boy's words make no sense. he doesn't understand china....so there's no need to translate it.
Another Chinese buying into the propaganda. Chinese seem to think that no textbooks mentioned Nanking in Japan. They don't seem to understand that in Japan, each school buys their own textbook, that textbooks aren't printed by the central government instead by private publishers.
In reality there are very few school adopted these textbooks that omits the horrifying events happend in Nanking. Less than what you could count in one hand in fact. And further more, the parents of the students who goes to these school actually prefer their kids to study the regular textbook that teaches the event on their own time as well. Since the incident is part of the national standarized exam. Not studying it means you're likely to fail.
I'm not saying that Japanese don't whitewash their history. But seriously, do research with multiple sources before you start talking as if everybody else in the world are ploting something against the Chinese.
And you said that you Chinese are living comfortably. But are you a good example of the whole Chinese population? Can you honestly tell me that you represent how majority of Chinese live at your age?
My company has a few factory outsourced to rural parts of China, I've been there and I've seem how people can be exploited just because they're not prevlaged. I've seen how easy it is for us to brib officials to bulldoze a few homes to build our facilities without ever compensating the home owners. The fact even at this day and age the communist party still imposes nation wide internet filtering says a lot about their mentality.
Obviously Sankaku has a lot of negative bias toward China, and to large extend Japan as well. But don't try to make it seems like modern China is without major problems.
我就是想要堂堂正正的用中文跟各位说,我很喜欢日本文化,我每天用谷歌翻译看SANKAKU。但是国外的朋友们却再一次的让我失望。
首先?你们认为共产党对不起人民?你们可以试着跟中国人民对话,我们很不满?你也可以来中国走走,看看会不会有人在街上拉人力车,会不会有人扎着辫子。而不是看这个网站将好的内容过滤,摆上丑陋的新闻供你们嘲笑。
过去的黑暗时代我们是肯定的,共产党确实有过很大的错误。但是在国内就连教科书他们都有记载着自己的错误。就算是倾向所谓独裁,我们的生活也获得不像韩国人一般总是抗议。当然的,我们国家只要事先申请允许抗议。我们活得安稳。但我们不愚昧。
置于不愿道歉,说句很敏感的话,难道日本承认过南京那件事情?当然的,你们国家的教科书一直跟你们说没发生过。而我们的教科书告诉我们:中国共产党曾经发动文化大革命,毛泽东有错误,古代中国人十分封建愚昧。
最后,请原谅我提起敏感话题。我只想大家来中国走走,看看什么是中国。看会不会在路上被打劫,看看共产党的人是不是满街戒严着。而不是坐在电脑前看这个网站的报道。
难道他们不是一直都在责怪共产主义在中国愚昧统治人民吗?我只能告诉你们,我不是共产党员,我不爱党。当我每天吃的很丰富,穿得很时尚,没有间断的接受教育,每天都上网看ACG,每天上网看政治新闻。我们活得很好,我们活得舒服。
难道他们不是一只在责怪共产主义在中国愚昧统治人民吗?
do not mix up chinese with communists party. they are different things at all. communists party is just a political party it do not represent a country or what so ever.
dont get so excited lol
文章中哪一句影射现在的中国了,
你用屁眼读文章的吗
确实,我用屁眼就能看出辱华。
你第一次来这里吧?
这个网站关于中国的新闻报道全部都是负面的,用现在的标准看过去的中国比较有材料好骂...
E apanhares no cu, não? Era o que devias fazer neste momento, paneleiro.
Hope you enjoy not understanding shit you fag.
基本上这个网站关于任何国家的新闻报道都是负面的...
虽然不能说全部,但是涉及中国的大多数阴暗丑陋的一面,好的东西它不放出来,所以我对sankakucomplex这种有意渲染中国负面形象的做法表示强烈不满
lol try babel fish if you dont understand what they are saying racist
I don't think any one is blaming China for such acts from the past, like you say every country had his dark-ages. One would, or rather should, see this article as a curiosity of the fact that such rare photo's have survived and for it's historical context.
At least I don't get any negative insinuations from it.
你是说行为吗?你要不要上网搜索一下二战期间“某些国家”处理战犯的照片?
So any crimes done back in those times lead to this punishment or were these left to more terrible crimes??
Also when I thought Death by 1k cuts, i was thinking of cuts that miss the major arteries instead of dismemberment.
Gore content!!
Oh gawd, now I start to feel that it's a good thing they brought firearms and use them for execution years after that..
I couldn't stop thinking about Hinamizawa while watching this :P
bloody hell
i don't understand why you guys always take part of chinese things and say some misundertanding things.
what's wrong with you guys.
why don't you paste all the
storys behind these pictures
i find something(in chinese)
http://baike.baidu.com/view/46380.htm?fr=ala0