Top Male Fashion Faux Pas: The Rucksack
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Nov 26, 2009 19:01 JST
- Tags: Anime Goods, Dating, Fashion, Marriage, Otaku, Rankings, Relationships, Shopping
Japanese fashion experts surveyed on what they consider the worst fashion choices a man could make have slated the rucksack as the most unsightly despite its handiness, also rubbishing a variety of other fashion blunders.
Curiously, their list all but mirrors the fashion most associated with otaku…
The survey asked 120 female “advisors” with marriage service Onet what fashion choices men hoping to do well in konkatsu would do well to avoid.
The most maligned was the rucksack, with 20% saying it was no good, followed by carrying a secondary bag (15.8%), and the universally reviled waist pouch (“fanny pack”/”bum bag”) at 15%.
Bags were the biggest faux pas, but in other areas there were plenty too – white socks, dirty shoes, gold necklaces, excessive mobile phone straps, belts with strange buckles, and of course having a shirt tucked into the trousers.
Not mentioned were anime emblazoned T-shirts and similar – clearly no sensible person would ever consider attempting to court females so dressed, so it hardly needs to be pointed out.
It must be no coincidence that this list has such an overlap with the otaku fashion so loathed by women of taste…
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The whole article revolves around heaping hate on the cliched anime convention attendee obviously though.
And to my knowledge, the cliche anime convention type really has no particular interest in real women looking at them.
LOL the tucking in your shirt is odd. Usually the richer you are then better you dress and tucking in your shirt is part of that.
I agree. The way I was raised, wearing slacks, and tucked in button up shirts is called dressing NICELY.
Whence did dressing extra casual = dressing good?
Honestly, what the fuck do fashion experts know about anything? Maybe I just don't understand it, but fashion has to be one of the most transient and least satisfying jobs in the world...You never have anything to show for it other than clinging onto one materialistic sensation after another until you've become too old for anyone to really give a shit. I really wonder if any "fashion experts" end up saying, "oh my, I have wasted the last 40 years of my life."
All you really need is a towel.
Is it me, or does that drawing they have up there look an awful lot like Chris-chan?
ta'hell with all that. Just carry around a big red velvet bag everywhere you go. And just randomly yell out "HO HO HO!" and hand out shit to people ;)
That might get you some chicks
Same could be said of your like of anime.
Seems no one realizes that this survey is about men going to a konkatsu party (a marriage hunting party). In other words, a social event.
I can't imagine any guy going to such a thing with a rucksack and a fannypack...
Never use any of them, a suitcase is better instead of a bag or something. I still use a rackpack since I attend to the university and EVERYONE uses them, so it's normal and handy for those many books and the laptop
What the hell is wrong with white socks?
Why's it gotta be white? eh?
Guys, the article is talking about those who generally go out dressed like that thinking it's normal. As far as fashion goes I usually wear Levis 510 super skinnys or any other nice skinny jean. Shirts I have various shirts from Diamond, The Hundreds, Supreme, Crooks & Castles, and such. I also have various pairs of Nike AF1s, dunks, and SBs. I also wear a new era fitted hat every now and then.
You had better be trolling me, but goddammit, skinny jeans on men is so blatantly homosexual...
Skinny jeans are very fashionable. Let me guess, your mom still dresses you right?
To a point.
There is a difference between jeans that are completely skintight, and jeans that are somewhat tight but still flexible and comfortable, and jeans that are just too huge and make you look like a douchefag.
Depending on someone's build, they might decide on any of these styles. Particularly for the stereotypical obese American, the skintight jeans are just completely unflattering and I generally recoil when I see someone (of either gender) who just doesn't fit into their pants.
On the other hand, it's become quite fashionable for men to wear skinny jeans if they keep a lean figure. Men with a wider build and more muscle tend to go middle-of-the-road, with a few exceptions of course.
Why do women ALWAYS care about shoes? If I wear a 3 piece suit with dirty shoes chicks still look at me like "he must have no money"
Because it isn't just a Forrest Gump reference; you really can tell a lot about a person from their shoes. Not as much as stated in the film, but certainly you can tell if they're dressed smart. Anyone can put on a suit, but not everyone can get a watch that matches the trim, or take the time to shine up shoes properly.
If you were at something like a speed-dating evening, remember you might only have a few minutes to get to know someone - so you'd latch onto anything you could to get a measure of them. I wouldn't specifically notice shoes, but I'm sure a lot of people would.
White socks lolwut? Well I'm good my red/blue wool socks most be fashionable.
Rather strange tastes these "advisors" have on a few points, at least compared to locals.
1. Bags - where I come from rucksacks are steadily gaining popularity, particularly laptop users who are practically everywhere nowadays thanks to WiFi Services (in fact laptop security advise is to transport such wares in "nondescript" bags, because stuff like attache cases and traditional laptop carriers will attract thieves)
2. White socks - Their point is applicable for officeware. For the sporty look, I wonder what they want to see?
3. Dirty shoes - again in officeware or formal wear. I guess the outdoors and adventures are off limits to these advisors.
4. Gold Necklaces - perhaps Mr. T scared them?
5. Belts with strange buckles - any examples of these?
6. A shirt tucked into the trousers - perhaps all the men these advisors keep seeing are way out of shape? Tucking in shirts is a preferred look where I come from, especially in the office.
I think it's important to bear in mind that these are the kinds of things that you're not supposed to wear to a "konkatsu". Think about speed dating; you wouldn't go with a rucksack or fanny pack. If you needed a bag, you'd prefer to take a smart messenger bag or something similar.
Those things mentioned in the article make perfect sense, such as white socks - because you're expected to be dressed smartly, not arriving in sportswear unless you've just come from the freakin' gym.
Might be an urbanite thing or only specific to some nations, but here in Canada, the truly interested in fashion aka wealthy don't NEED top carry their shit around. They leave it in their cars.
I don't really understand what the big deal is. I mean, it isn't difficult to NOT dress like a clown.
And sure, sometimes you're going to need to run around carrying a bunch of stupid crap and looking like a geek. There are times when that is appropriate, and there are times when you should put forth the effort to 'dress nice'.
So long as you can manage that common sense sort of stuff and avoid dressing like a fool, any woman overly-concerned with how you dress is probably a less than ideal partner. Because honestly, that's rather shallow.
For example, unless I am expecting company of some sort, I tend to bum around my apartment in one of several oversized tshirts and some comfortable pants. I wouldn't go outside in this, that's just common sense. I have comfortable 'inside' clothes for hanging around the house, I have active wear, I have 'nice clothes', I have work clothes, I have relaxed 'outside' clothes for hanging out with friends, I have a Tactical Response Uniform...but that's another story.
And a good bag that can hold a lot of stuff and still look good isn't hard to manage. I <3 my Tenba messenger bag. Combination messenger bag, camera bag, and laptop bag. Pretty damn spiffy. Looks good on me (So I've been told), comfortable, and keeps my camera equipment safe and secure. Not cheap though, there's always a trade-off. ;o
Perhaps some women just need to remember that we're not women. We don't give a shit how we look or dress, so long as we're not making asses of ourselves. (Well, most of us, anyway.) If they so badly want their partners to be attractive and fashion-obsessed, they're looking at the wrong gender.
What's wrong with white socks?
There's nothing wrong about the socks, only those who belittle them.
Those socialable fools!
The rucksack, also known as the backpack, is the peak of equipment-carrying efficiency!
Not only does it carry all your necessary equipment safe from external dirt and travel damage (and in some cases, water), it also allows you to have both hands free for all kinds of situations; let it be an unexpected hostile approaching you, or when you need your hands to rescue somebody without having to waste time by dropping your equipment to do so!
Because this description matches every one of you ugly fat otakus on here, its a good way of explaining why you'd choose a fictional 2D wife, who can't tell you how repulsive you are.
Here is how I'll dress for my konkatsu
1)boxer(no need for pants)
2)slipper
3)vest with Doraemon pocket
4)my PSP hanging around my neck
5)finally carrying my C.C. dakimakura since backpack is a no-no
I'm sure I'll definitely look cool
I use Rucksacks when needed. I've even been found using an waist pouch :O
Though I only use the pouch on (music) festivals because it is harder to steal something from it and perfect for holding my weed.
Other then that I fully understand why women are against men carrying bags of any kind. I mean how are the supposed to hold all the shopping bags if they already have bags of their own??
Wierd. I carry a rucksack/backpack all the time because I read while on transport and carry a bottle of water as well. The same bag is what I use to carry my tons of notes and other schoolwork related material to school >_> I'd ratehr carry my load in a balanced manner on both shoulders cause its just sometimes so darn heavy.
There are reasons why people dress they way they want to, simply because they don't want to do what they don't intend to do. These so-called "experts" should know their own place and know that there exists other places beside their own.
If I want a bag to carry my stuff, I'll just get the nearest decent bag in a heartbeat. That or I'll bring my own.
Going out just to get bread shouldn't feel like going on a date because I don't want to go on a date. I just want to get my bread. Couldn't get any simpler than that. Just... GIVE ME MY *censored* BRREAAADDD!!!
I dont think Ive EVER seen anyone dress like that in real life... IF you have more bags than a woman, I can see her being turned off.
otaku is culture!!!
Damn! That is exactly what i look like...
Don't bother with this one it is pointless.
Douche yes, but armed!
Put that on a t-shirt "Armed Douche"
People need to learn how to spell.
Hmm...I wear sweats, white socks, sneakers, and a messenger bag.
Shit, Boo shirts conquer all
Bah, whatever. I love my fanny pack.
"white socks"
Why is that bad?
fuck me, my clean white socks have doomed me....
where can I get one of those 'lol'belts?
What's a rucksack? Is it a backpack or is it a handbag?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpack
^ This
Like 'Doppelgänger' (ä=ae) - for example - it is a loanword.
Backpack, rucksack is the common Japanese term.
I disagree with some of the sentiment here- particularly that a backpack is worse than a branded shopping bag. I may use the items in question, but it's a far cry from serving as a walking advertisement.
Giant belt buckles are likewise defensible, but only if you're a certain type of person. Trying to act like you are with a cardboard personality will understandably have adverse dating effects.
Those orbital head sparkles, though? Total chick magnet.
White socks are a fashion faux pas which makes one undateable in Japan? You have got to be fucking kidding me.
I don't understand the white socks thing either, I never knew sock color mattered. I wear short white socks everyday with pants long enough of course, and i've never seen a teen or any young person wearing colored socks. Is it a japanese thing?
IMO a single backpack is good enough. The rest can be stored either a vest, cargo pants, shoes, or hair.
"fashion experts"
ha ha ha
oh wow
I started reading, but immediately caught the word "fashion". I cringed and then I also saw the word "expert" alongside it.
Fashion alone is a concept of so much fail there's no point caring about its existence. That some fags calling themselves "fashion experts"/fashion designers try to dictate what people should and should not wear/carry is utterly ridiculous. The fact that many people are devoid of any sense of real character and miserable enough to buy that sort of concept is as retarded as it's insane.
Can you honestly say you have no preference in clothing on the opposite gender? Fashion is a design art. It follows trends of styles and is made to appeal to people. You could say that trends in anime characte design are loosely similar. To brush fashion off as something so wretched is completely ignorant. Some people just invest a personal interest in clothing, whereas others may have interests in other hobbies.
Yes, I have a "preference in clothing on the opposite gender" - at least, the attractive members of the opposite gender.
1) No clothes at all.
2) As close to no clothes at all as possible.
3) Thin, tight, body-form-revealing clothes (even if she's got tiny breasts).
But "Fashion Experts" doesn't agree with me.
*Especially if she's got tiny breasts.
Some people may invest whatever they want on whatever they like. No one [should give]/[gave] them the right to impose their opinion on their supposed "hobby" to the general population and no one in his right mind should follow an arbitrary dress code some moron invented to make himself look important.
As far as fashion appealing to the public... LULZ. When I hear "because that's the current fashion trend" as an answer to "why are you wearing that", I can safely say the notion of fashion working for good taste and not for some fag's profit has gone through the window.
Wear what makes you yourself (and try to keep it legal :p )
I'm not sure about "fashionable" but I do have a preference in clothing on the opposite sex. Oversized shirts <3
the dude in the pic looks handsome enough for a date ;)
p.s. 2nd pic ;D
Fashion has always hated practicality...
is a katana fashionable?
fuck man, were just shopping for goods, its somewhat equivalent to a god dam purse.
fashionable vs practicality, when you're a guy it's not a hard choice.
These guys have to get better swag.
How many of the weaboos who read this site where the anime tshirts, or those generic asiany dragon tshirts. And how many who don't where them to their school where them when they goto cons.
Freakin weaboos.
the people that call people "weboos" are more loosers than the people they accuse. you make me sick just buy using the word i really wish that word would drop off the planet you have no idea how stupid it really is so i have a couple anime shirts so what im also 26 and have liked anime sens i was 13. so go on stepping on egg shells trying not to be a "weboo" insted of just enjoying anime and kill your self wen someone calls you "weboo". you now i dont like it when people try to do stuff like swear in Japanese and say it slipped and try to talk about moving to japan because its better and say things from japan are better just because its Japanese. i dont like some things that so called "weboos" do but i tell them i dont like it instead of calling them "weboos" because i dont want to sound like you. i never even heard of the word until this past year and you saying "at school" tells me your a some young punk. im not going to say im some expert but these new gen anime fans are a joke get a life.its not even about the anime any more to you its about whos cool and who isnt we are all anime fans so grow up and stop giving anime fans a bad name.
weaboo is the stupidest word iv ever heard you stupid kids are probably like 12. iv been an anime fan for about 15 years and have never worried about such retarded things yes i dont like some things weaboos are accused of but really who care's even enough to call themselves screen names like antiweeaboo. i have a couple anime shirts so what if you care so much to hate me for it that meens you need too get a life and are more of a looser than any weaboo to actually use such stupid terms. so go ahead keep walking on eggshells trying not to bee a weaboo and kill youself wen someone calls you one wile i just shut my mouth enjoy my anime and laugh at you for even caring about whos a weaboo or not
Jezus-titty-fucking-Christ on a crutch, chill out. Man, you need a life. You're all "oh no! Someone said something on the internet that I don't like." u mad?
It's "wear". Really, have you never used the word until now? Also, "go to" is two words.
nah, it's the japanese pronounciation of goat.
i reckon the female "advisors" would go all over the otaku if he replace rucksack with gucci brand rucksack.
i do believe there is such a thing as function over fashion...
And a gucci brand bum bag...
THERE'S A REASON THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
I'M ACTUALLY GUCCI AND I READ THIS.
IT NOW DOES.
I just don't go outside then...
:<
Hehe if that's the case, no point in wearing any clothes, let alone a rucksack while you're at it.
What's an outside?
outside?? *looks out the window* Oh my god... the rumors were true!!
reminds me of the bromeliad trilogy
It's an optical illusion via light refraction of your window.
Just a silly myth. Don't believe it.
What are men supposed to carry their stuff around in then? Trolley bags?
cool guys don't need to carry stuff...
obviously.
no shit? all the things that cool guys needs to carry are in their pants.
icecubes?
if women don't want me to hold their bags when i go shopping with them so much...then they can hold it themselves
very true, it's their stuff anyway so why would you want to carry it?
Yeah, like WTF??? It's not like jeans pockets and cargo pants can hold that much stuff.
well your waifu shouldn't give you an allowance from your paycheck that allows for anything other than a snack during your 12hr work day and you carry any work related papers/items in your briefcase anyway so...
handbag?
Correction a "Manbag".
A sac.
It's just called a sack
Sac
A sac
sac.
testicle sack?
I use a Microsoft backpack (I know... but it was the only one reasonably sturdy, reasonably large, and semi-reasonably-priced I could find), or my old PS/2 "shoulder-bag" to carry my stuff.
"Stuff" ==
* laptop (usually a netbook)
* laptop charger
* laptop alarm
* computer books and magazines
* maglight
* umbrella
* gloves
* pens and pencils
* glasses
* paperback book (fiction)
* things I just bought (Mountain Dew, DVDs, etc.)
* sometimes, manga or "graphic novels"
* sometimes, Champions gaming notes
* sometimes, gaming dice
No, I'm not married.
No, I don't have a gf.
No, I don't particularly wish to hook up with an Asian woman (wouldn't mind, per se - it depends on what she wants out of life).
Functionality over fashion is my creed.
Or at least open a window.
hmm maybe he's a student.. and needs all that crap.. i know i did when i went.. and it was a fuckin pain!
Get a electric watch that beeps.
There are wireless chargers but only used at airports or so a pre-flight commercial ad claims. We'll probably see it out for household use within the next five years.
I have not met you in real life, good sir, but I already believe that we will get along well.
get a mobile which you can hack into a flashlight in 2 min, get the books in digital format, as the manga, the cellphone has an alarm you can program too... that should lighten your load a little....
I stopped carrying my D20 set a while ago... realized i wasn't even usign those....
mmm... i still dont know what to do about laptop's charger, when some1 invents wireless electricity I'll let you know...
ah... and there are some 3 inches umbrellas around... you won't get full cover... but, it won't occupy lots of space either....
summarizing, just try to reduce the number of things you carry around.
Wireless electricity has been invented so feel free to let him know
You do have a lot of stuff though, you might want to leave excessive stuff you don't need, back at home...
Also depends on what purpose you'd be having a backpack with you.
WTF an umbrella?
You can't go outside and check the weather?
You don't need most of that shit.
Pencil and pens? use your laptop to write stuff down.
An umbrella? Just wear a jacket that has a hood.
The books, "gaming notes" (lol), magazines, and mangas should be left at home. Trust me, no one wants to take them from you.
and a maglite? Scared of the dark or what?
planing on doing some late night car repair?
The umbrella alone is reason enough to carry a bag of some kind, unless you'd feel less awkward just carrying an umbrella everywhere.
How much of that do you need in a day? Seriously. SERIOUSLY. There's a time and a place for everything, you don't need a laptop and a novel and a maglight at the same time.
"No, I don't particularly wish to hook up with an Asian woman (wouldn't mind, per se - it depends on what she wants out of life)."
-__- well if you have to say it...
Yea like WTF are they suppose to use to carry things then? Their bare hands?
And to think that women spend thousands of dollars on a fucking purse, this of all things is what they complain about? Ironic.
What things? WTF to you do with this things?
This.
= TRUTH
Wow, what a bunch of retards.
Backpacks?
You shouldn't need to carry around more shit then what you can fit into a backpack, unless you are moving, going camping (Not like any of you go camping), or are shopping, in which case you get plastic bags provided to you.
In any case, this is one case where I agree with women completely. Stereotypical "otaku" wear is unacceptable to go outside in.
The survey asked 120 female “advisors” with marriage service Onet what fashion choices men hoping to do well in konkatsu would do well to avoid.
If you're not participating in a konkatsu party, then don't worry about it. Although I'd say this advice applies to any actual social event. I mean, it's fine having bags or a rucksack with you when you're out buying stuff, but I wouldn't go to any kind of party with one...
Actually rucksacks are considered quite unfashionable whatever the event, it seems.
Use an oversized wheelie bag instead. It's way cooler and you can fit a lifeless female body in there.
Yeah, the wonderful finger-cutting plastic bags. That's just one wonderful idea you have here. Plus an ecologic one, shall I say...
Backpack isn't that convenient in crowded pick-pocket environment, nor when you have to get and put things from it a lot of time. Unless you wear it on your torse... (and in that case, don't mind the bizarre look you'll get.)
These advisor's ideal man is probably so rich he has sevants to carry his stuff. Good luck with that.
http://diamondheadz.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/billionaire-boys-club-gold-rucksack/
WTF anything resembling a bag is a big nono for women?!?!? so i'm just supposed to carry my wallet and phone, period?
yep so they keep all the money they would spend for themselfs
like where are suppose to keep our wares?
and for the record there a lot of real fashionable backpacks, they may be large enough for camping and such but still hold enough stuff like a handbag
Phone, wallet, keys, sidearm, ear-buds, sunglasses depending on weather, jacket. all I carry with me normally.
Amen brother. All of you should be ashamed calling your selfs men and carrying half your house with you like women.
Yes, all you need is your phone your wallet, your keys and a handkerchief. No need to carry other shit.
sidearm??? whats that a gun?? what do you need that for
"And a handkerchief" my ass.
Well unless you're going camping or something... just a plain canvas bag is pretty easy to work with. Well? Anyone else like canvas bags?
I rarely leave the house carrying more than just my wallet, phone, and keys anyway. You shouldn't need to carry around that much shit unless you actually plan on using it.
What exactly would a man need to bring to a Konkatsu besides his wallet and/or phone? That IS what this survey was right? Just about the stuff worn to a Konkatsu? Besides that, how about a brief case? Or OR... just don't give a shit.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with carrying a bag around to hold shit when you're say, shopping around town.
You don't need to have a fannypack, rucksack and manbag for a social event.
According to me, I am satisfied this statement. What exactly would a man need to bring to a Konkatsu besides his wallet and/or phone? That IS what this survey was right? Just about the stuff worn to a Konkatsu? Besides that, how about a brief case? Or OR... just don't give a shit…………….
http://flyfashionnews.com
Fashion News
Yes you do. Gotta get ready for the nice boat ending.
All I ever have is my wallet and my phone. I really don't see the point of carrying around much more :P