K-ONification
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Nov 23, 2009 00:11 JST
- Tags: Comparison, Haruhi, Illustration, K-ON!, Kyoto Animation, Lucky Star
Previously it was noted that with the success of moe blob anime K-ON! even titles such as Haruhi were losing their characteristic style in favour of something approximating the evident marketability of Mio and company, but this trend seems to be intensifying, with the above comparison demonstrating the creeping K-ONification of two other titles…
Improvement or degradation?
Haruhi Movie Reaches #7 in Japanese Box Office
Sea Shepherd to Attack Tuna Fishing Boats
Mugi-Mania Grips Otaku
Busty Yoko Cosplay
Pedobear “Vancouver 2010 Olympic Mascot”
Anime Industry Laments Bust: “We Could Sell Anything!”
Marisa Kirisame Figma
Nippon Ichi Stock Plunges as Profits Wiped Out
Wonder Festival Winter 2010 Mega-Digest
Tony Works Ciel Chronicle Erotic Indeed
LDP Fields “Hair Nude” Candidate Miyako Aso
Noizi Ito’s Lightning
Final Fantasy XIII Sells for $20, Sales Now a Damp Squib
Kinema Kan’s Touhou Anime Music Video PV
Rei: “Come Visit the Onsen of Hakone!”
Haruhi Movie Premieres, Draws Line of 500 Otaku
Sexy Pizza Munching C.C. Cosplay
Ohigetan
Matataku
Mischievous Suzume Gallery
Asuka Langley Cosplay by Kanda Midori
Otaku Bukkake Gallery
Nagato Yuki Disappearance Winter Version Cosplay
Mikupan
Sakuya Tsuitachi
Translucent Clothing Idol Gallery
TOO MUCH MOE
There can never be too much moe, you heretic.
Yes there can.We are having it right now IMO.God I miss old anime that didn't have forced moe....
ya, preferring original art style rather than simply more MOE. especially in case of haruhi 2nd season.
That was so fkin annoying and obvoius of the character design in haruhi after endless 8, haruhi doesn't loook good as a deformed moe blob
Stop it, you remind me the horror of endless eight
anyway Moe is almost killing the true value of anime, i found it degraded from time to time.
follow the market trend and this what we have.
Moe has nothing to do with the poor argument in new anime, they can have that moe style and good stories but they don't.
Moe is not bad at all, but seeing ONLY moe recently is what I don't like.
NOOOO LUCKY STAR NOOOOOOOOOOO!
To Marids, the moe-fication of Haruhi is not what ruined the second season. It was endless eight.
It's the goddamn paradox again.
Moe isn't all bad. As all you said, forced moe is the problem.
Before, everyone used to say that anime was great because there was a show or genre for just about everyone. But now, the demographic for newer shows has narrowed. What we really need is a balance in production of moe and more mainstream anime. Which is isn't happening right now, since the moe otaku craze is what is driving the anime market.
Lucky Star is MUCH MORE moe that K-On so, does that mean it's moe got reduced?
Lucky Star is alright with it. As for the other two, it's definitely degradation, because the original art style fit the anime more closely. Haruhi is meant to be god, not a blob of moe. As for the other one, I can't say, but from the looks of it, a lot was lost in the translation, especially her hair. Definitely degradation in my eyes.
So what the hell, we might as well inject moe into our hentai, too. Moe will have truly penetrated/been penetrated everywhere. >_>
Oh fuck, might as well make our cars more moe. Eventually, everyone's gonna be driving Beetles with fucking glistening anime eye headlights. *slitslit*
omg...stop copying k-on's art style!!! i suck! it's ruining anime like haruhi (despite the endless eight...) !! we want our old art back!
There's more lucky star coming out?! MOE RULES!! XD
Man, noawdays anime are just fanservice and full of moe, there's no good plot now...
With all this K-Onification going on, generic animes like Seitokai no Ichizon might end up having the most original character design of this year and that's just sad.
Oh, KyoAni. How the mighty have fallen.
moe is like smiles... forcing it is creepy and unattractive
I was somewhat pissed to see Haruhi return with blob faces. I was like "this isn't even Haruhi anymore!"
and plus Endless Eight? That's a double-whammy clusterfuck right there.
whoa.., wiseman...
indeed
omg they're drawing the eyes differently now I don't like this show any more
@Pandemonia: I very highly agree with you. And it's just as scary that there may be someone out there thinking all this K-ONification is an improvement.
@Pandemonia
If you got that from Minami-ke Okaeri, I love you.
Gawd, the scene with Natsuki in episode 10 was hilarious. His smile was the scariest thing I've ever fucking seen.
@Anonymous
No kidding, I wish I could smile like that.
Sharp sound effect and all.
You're thinking of dakka.
hahahaha!!!! I love you for this comment! xD It is awesome lmao!
oh yeah! ..
What are you? A priest of Moe-tania?
stick with the orignall it looks better
y change somthing when it isht broke
only to break it and make it FUBR
Last time I checked, Haruhi did break.
Umm didnt the lucky star OVA come out after the opening cd?
As for haruhi the art doesnt even look that much different and for the third anime the first picture looks like it was by a fan.
The first is an original character illustration, which the character designer based their design off of.
The limit as moe goes to infinity of shameless TV marketing does not exist.
You got your choclate in my peanut butter...
Back to 4chan you go, faggot.
I'm more interested in what the bottom left series is.
So am I. Can anybody provide respective information on that matter?
So・Ra・No・Wo・To (Sound of the Sky).
I thank thee, fellow anonymous person.
=3
I don't know what the bottom anime is, but Lucky Star and Haruhi are both Kyoani shows, so it only makes sense that their own drawing style would evolve over time. So I'm not sure how or why this is news worthy.
Agreed. This seems like anti K-On hysteria to me. The bottom image compares a manga image to anime, so of course the are not going to look the same. Look how different the Sailor Moon anime looks compared with its original manga.
Indeed. K-On itself was an evolution of Haruhi's drawing style. It's just a normal style evolution of a studio. Completely typical and normal stuff for the industry. You could make the same claims about any number of studios. Just look at Gainax's stuff. All their shows share a similar look as well, and that look has evolved over the years in the same way.
"evolution" what?!
it seems like regression, haruhi's original artwork was awesome
You obviously missed the point entirely if you're going to just nit pick at the word evolution. -_-
I obviously understood your point, man, but I wasn't serious lol
It's not evolution. It's called budget cutting animation regression. Similar to Shaft, which was at first artsy, but now seem to be cutting corners at the most inappropriate places. In kyoani's case, they're now just abusing popularity and churning out crap in favor of getting more money. Haruhi might have been like that because Clannad didn't do as well as they hoped (not that I'd know), but for a studio have been praised as animation gods, I find it disappointing.
Completely disagree. It's simply a gradual change in art direction that all artists and studios go through. It's nothing more than that. You're just trying to find "conspiracy" where there isn't any.
Agree with mario about K-on's gradual development of anime style which is a fact for all studios of any art. There is gradual change and development. But its also clear to see that the K-on style is being transferred over to other shows for easier reanimation. A money saving method perhaps.
For the record, this "style" was used even before K-ON! Clannad After Story, for example, had it.
Nah. That's not manga on the bottom left; merely original character design made specifically for the anime (as Sora no Oto is an anime original).
It is rather weird that the end result is very different.
I'd say both Haruhi and Lucky Star look best in their original styles.
You guys forgot to add clannad, the characters in the second season looked so retarded,they lost their *true* cutness, actually i don't like this anime style of drawing, it just never appeals to me i~i
and in the end thats just my openion XD
My opInion is that your opInion is worthless because you can't even spell opInion.
A valid point!
Don't be an ass.
Well, maybe the internet would be a less retarded place if kids just fucking stayed away from adults sites.
>>Well, maybe the internet would be a less retarded place if kids just fucking stayed away from adults sites.
------------------
Then what are you still doing here, anon? It's late, so kids should sleep.
萌え! 萌え! 萌え! 萌え! 萌え!
^_^
I like it if each of them kept to their own distinctive styles
The bottom anime is So・Ra・No・Wo・To. Airs in Jan 2010.
Does this mean a new Lucky Star season is coming?
Lucky star's original style is better...
I can't even see the difference, I think both lucky star pictures have the exact same style.
The smiles...
There are differences in small details, even if they are easy to miss.
It's the size and proportions of the eyes and face. Lucky Star had larger eyes and smaller faces, while K-ON has smaller eyes and larger faces. You can "K-ONify" practically any Lucky Star image.
OP image reverted to Lucky Star style:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4238/luckystar1.jpg
K-ONified Lucky Star image:
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/72/luckystar2.jpg
K-ON style is really just a "more realistic" (or just less SD) Lucky Star style.
Exactly. You have to be some badass nerd to actually to see the little differences - or in this case: similarities.
I think this would be called NERD RAGE.
Moe utterly ruined Haruhi.
Ah, and Endless Eight. Bravo Kyoani.
Moe didn't ruin Haruhi, the lack of an interesting story and the same fucking episode over and over did.
How can Lucky Star be'KON!nified' if there hasn't been any new Anime made post-K-On!?
It's about the new artwork
Honestly there is not that much of a difference in Lucky Star.
Well, to be fair, Lucky Star had the thing going on before K-on.
Right in the opening even, with the poses with extreme perspective.
So, if something, it would be more accurate to say K-on was influenced by Lucky Star rather than the opposite.
the girl at the bottom is out of the anime called "Sora no Oto"
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6783
MOE MUST DIE!
You must die. And you will. Moe won't.
It'll weaken, but never die. Much like anything in this world.
It was said, gods die when they are forgotten. And K-On! following is akin to some weird cult... Let's wait and see.
Anonymous MUST DIE!
..............wait....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD NO
WHY DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN
I LOVED SOME OF THESE SO MUCH
SO MUCH...
The Sacred Blacksmith also looks like it has some K-ONification going on
LOL, true, Cecily does feel like a K-ON refugee :p But she's cute so who cares.
You
Natural progression. People complain about everything.
Well, ppl have been doing it since the stone age. I bet old people back in those days were against the young cavemen for wearing fur clothes, using fire to cook and use stone wheels for transportation..
They improve the art, and you start complaining... Ah fuck you people.
萌え～萌え～キュン<3
(moe~moe~kyun<3)
why has ritsu's head been cut off :(
does no one remember episodes like the one where the SOS Brigade goes against the computer club? The style was like that then, too.
And let us not forget about Munto. K-ON is Munto style. Nothing else
I would agree with the first statement, but not the second. The females in Munto actually look their age(somewhat, minus Suzume), and the angles of the body seem more prominent in their designs.
I think the biggest similarity between the two styles would be the eyes and choice of colors, but I don't see much else the two shows may have in common. Granted, there is the cuteness factor, but this is KyoAni we're talking about. (When I say this, I mean the new material of Munto, not the OVA recap.)
If this is indeed copying off of K-ON, though, KyoAni and other studios may use(or attempt to use)it until it starts losing them money. It all seems like a big marketing ploy to me.
I love K-on, but i thing is degradation!!!
They are all becoming the same thing with different colors... that is my problem with this...
I enjoyed Haruhi season 1...
As amusing as it was to watch the same episodes in different views/colors... I realized that if I watched K-on it would be pretty much the same thing at this rate.
Haruhi 2 is still incomplete in viewing for me...
Sankaku finally came right out and said it, all anime is now K-On!
Amen.
degradation.
Seconded.
Bring back their freakin' noses, at least.
Bakemonogatari omitted entire scenes from its release and still managed to eclipse the short-lived success of K-ON. If these shows really copied others, wouldn't it make sense to go for the most popular?
This is one of the reasons why I detested Haruhi Season 2. Then again, the light novels have always been superior to their respective manga and anime counterparts.
Moe Moe Kyun...
Oh cry more. I can't hear you over my moe anime's.
Wasn't Kannagi like this too? Even at my first view of K-On, I thought it was from the same Animation Studio of Kannagi...
Kannagified then?
Well I guess it's Kannagified then?
Yeah, first promo image of K-ON! looked like it was to be an A-1 Pictures production. That would also explain why the bottom right image of Soranowoto looks 'K-ONified.'
We don't have to take the article seriously, since it never really is.
I'm surprised no one else said this. Shame on you mindless trolls.
Jumping over the fence without thinking.
All hail, Ichiro-sama. Possibly the only one who noticed this.
We need a Berserk remake where they make Guts moe.
Tsundere Guts XD
In all honesty, I don't know why KyoAni is doing this for the K-ON craze. They were fine and much better the way they were before. Now, I don't hate K-ON. But I think attempting the do samefag on your other series shows you're desperate and lack in creativity.
uh, the lucky star and haruhi look the same before and after
the sora no woto artwork are drawn by different people
all three are done by kyoani or studio k-1
derp herp
i find this makes the world more boring as it takes away the uniqueness of certain works as well as variety.
This is very true,K ON! animation style is one of my favorite styles but if every fucking thing had that exact style then any other style would look amazing unique and interesting simply because I am bored of the same shit.
damit K-ON, u did it again!!
degradation
I have this theory that the original animation staff who did Haruhi S1 were not big players in the new series's production. I think they were set, instead, to work on the movie while the K-on staff were given the work on the continuation of the TV series. Therefore, I'm hoping that the movie will have visuals and animation that are on par or superior to the original.
Okey.
First is Lucky Star.
Second is Haruhi.
What is third anime?
Anyone can respond and help me?
so ra no wo to, it hasnt aired yet
Thx. I know that men from internet are always ready to help.
As with everything, if no one actually liked it, there wouldn't be any of it.
Hey I LIKED K-On. Broke my heart when I saw that this was worth 100 bucks.
I mean I like the anime, would love to have the mini, but 100 bucks would require one of my friends to do an intervention if they really cared about me :)
I don't mind moe in the same way I like the same chocolate bar over at over. Yeah they are sweet, very sweet, but then I also like to sip pure maple syrup right out of the bottle. I guess I am just immune to too much sweet :)
I'd even love to see Sailormoon redone as a moe blob :)
"I'd even love to see Sailormoon redone as a moe blob"
Now you're trying to ruin other people's childhoods.
You sicken me, good sir!
I blame Samu-kun, he needs to die. :<
well kyo-ani had a degradation before characters in FMP!:fumoffu were wonderful then they started, with the key style , wich look ok in air good in kanon and great in clannad, but still consider FMP:second raid the best style, and like someone said before, is not k-on! style, that started in sora o miageru shoujo wich is probably the great fail of kyoani, and about haruhi, its probably just to save money they kept that style, but they knew and otakus proved that haruhi would sell even if the second season was animated by gonzo.
I'll say degradation. Like many people said, it loses its originality and "flavor". The term "blob" does somehow affect a lot. I mean... look at Haruhi's weirdly shaped face and (fore)head in post-moeblob picture.
I think I don't even need to talk about the third row...
god help us all...
One day you moe lovers may wake up and realise how shallow, boring and crap moe anime is.
I used to be a victim or its charms then I woke up and destroyed anything moe related in my possession. You're just buying into the fan service, the eye candy, nothing more.
For the love of god wake up out of your moe comas, can't you see how this shallow, bland shit is killing anime.
Anime needs to go back to being gritty, violent, cool, like it was in 80s and 90s, I hate anime now with a passion.
You talk like if many of us didn't already know the shallow crap it is when in fact we are well aware of it.
It is you who needs to wake up and realize that some people simply enjoy that kind of things for what they are and that the existence of things you don't like shouldn't make you enjoy the ones you do less.
Some of us actually quite like moe in tolerable quantities and do like the cool and edgy anime of the 80's and 90's, but slanting completely in one direction doesn't sound like a fun time to me.
Jeez, this guy's harsh. Moe coma? Well fuck you too, princess.
In some cases improvement where the style could use some more moe but in many other situations its a degradation simply because the title was designed with a certain style in mind and changing the formula has caused degradation.
With Haruhi its hard to focus on what's going on with my mind being distracted with all the moe and normally I wouldn't mind that but I actually want to see something interesting happen and I cant if I am going all stupid over the cute shit.
That never bothered me with K ON! because going retarded and silly over all the silly cute things was the whole point.
In a way moe is like weed, it makes some things better but it can also you can miss many good things.
Whatever suit your tastes. I like them both.
This reminds me of the Supermanification of Batman...
I want to see a moe version of Witchblade.
Degradation definitely.
Just look at the after pictures for Haruhi and the last anime, they look like they have down syndrome.
the way to tell if it's been k-onified is if they're mouths are open :0
All I have to say after looking at these pictures is: is that really Haruhi in the second picture, and if so why? Why would anyone do that?
Ugh; K-ON'd Haruhi is all baby-faced. That doesn't work; she's actually quite developed.
I think this is my only irritation with this art style. Haruhi's character just seems to match the old art better. Mikuru doesn't look too bad, but then again she's also really cute and quiet. Haruhi's just so loud and dominate, the sharper and less rounded design just seems to fit better.
after all Kyoani turned into the EA of anime
kyo ani is worse than EA. They mass troll people unlike EA.
they do the same shit, is like dragon age:origins that had dlcfrom day one, thats just major troll.
That Lucky Star image is terrible. Everyone looks so cross eyed and off from the original design.
I know studio art changes over time, but...man. Go look at some of the really stylized and beautiful scenes from AIR from a few years ago and then relook these over. It's almost painful. I'm not saying the K-On style is terrible or anything, for that show it's cute and suitable, but to apply it to all their stuff? I hope to God this doesn't catch on too much.
Then again, Air is by FAR KyoAni's best piece of work (visually) so far.
I think couple of those transitions with K-on's moeblobness
feeling like overall this was just shits and giggles
so kudos
is like in railgun, desgins are way moefied from index, kuroko most of the time have 2 heads and a half in prportion to the body, at least they are subtle changes, not like the change in saber marionette x to saber marionette x to j
I like the original art more. Not that I'm against k-onification.
Umm, wasn't LS moe to begin with?
Actually, wasn't LS WAY more moe than k-on to begin with?
btw, who's that character at the bottom?
K-on could very well be the worst thing to happen to anime of recent times, possibly ever.
Wait, what?
Lucky Star finished way before K-On even started, right? How could they have moefied it?
i just started watching so called "moe" anime so i cant get enoug of it but imo lucky star, K-On and haruhi only good moes
gunslinger girl season 1 + k-on = Il Teatrino
Degradation. If I wanted all my anime to look the same I'd go hire some popular twats from Deviantart.
Fuck this shit.
Moe has ruined anime.
I WANT MY HARUHI BACK.
The first season of Haruhi was FULL of shameless moe, what's your point?
Hey, but kyoani doesn't even animate sora no woto (the last one), right?
stay tuned January 2010.
The sudden influx of moeblobs is one of the reasons that it's hard for me to get into anime anymore. Everything seems to look so similar that nothing catches my eye at all.
Moe has been gradually disintegrating anime for years. K-ON isn't the cause of moeification, it's the result.
degradation...some anime's just aren't meant for moe. They're made for the story and for the minds of people who actually have them.
This is just plain degradation of quality. I enjoyed watching K-ON! but to apply it to everything is just....... I don't know what to call it.
degration but improvement in the moe dept.
seems more like a change of artist and pplz are going overboard about it
Haruhi and Lucky Star already were two steaming piles of boring moe crap, who cares how their godawfully boring characters look like.
You forgot to mention Seiken no Blacksmith. The K-ON!-esque designs of the girls were such a put off, made worse by the presence of Cecily in the anime.
Lucky star always looked like that.
K-ON copied Lucky Star's style you fools.
What the fuck?! Why are they forcing this shallow K-ON bullshit on other anime? I think it's ugly as fuck, if I see an ep of Haruhi that looks like this I'm gonna take the next plane to Tokyo and start massacring shit.
This looks less like K-onifwtf and more like the artists smoked themselves retarded and forgot how to draw.
who cares, k-on sucks
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
Am I the only one who doesn't see much of a difference? It's all still typical anime to me.
Nah, you can tell the difference in some of them. I mean, are you gonna tell me an anime like Gundam looks like Gurren-Lagann? Or maybe that Nodame Cantabile looks like Lucky Star? Pay more attention and you can see the differences in the art quality.
The Lucky Star comparison is a bit of a stretch.
Shouldn't be Kannagiifcation?
lucky star looks basically the same.
Thst's because it is. If anything, in Lucky Star's case it would be perfecting the style, since both of them shared it.
They are intent on ruining everything we love
I may get a lot of hate for this comment, but I actually did not like the style of K-On! too much...
*yaaawn* perhaps this is the 100th time i saw something like this, i tot people would have all grown up by now.
look, critics are all good, but use your brain wisely, don't let personal hatred take over. K-ON! style lacks bunch of things here an there, and it is very normal to hate it. go hate it all you want, but don't give irrelevant comments like "K-ON! style ruined haruhi season 2", cause WE BOTH KNOW it wasn't the style that ruined it!
for God sake, stay on your senses! when people decide to "pause" their brain like this, that's what a "degradation" really is.
Hehehe.. Seriously.. You can't seriously expect majority of the people to act mature.
The internet is the playground of the spoiled brats within our aged heads.
It would be more accurate to say, "K-ON! style ALSO ruined Haruhi Season 2."
not so accurate, friend... without things like E8 trolling, haruhi would be far from "ruined", even if the art style was moefied 10x greater than K-ON!
look around, and look back to the past. good animes always prevail despite their shitty art style. and shitty animes always fail in the market despite their good art style.
definitely degradation
I usually don't dwell on the Haruhi==K-ON! character designs but...
Well now that I think about it... Oh no.... If they're going to handle future Key works with that kind of character design... Then by all means crucify them!!!
See Clannad After Story episode 3.
Saw that but it's not that evident like Haruhi Fillers...
Don't bring up K-ON!
Dx I already have nightmares..
owo the only difference I see in the Lucky Star picture is the eyes.
They look.. less moe.. more.. duhh.
I liked K-ON moe art; however, I don't want other anime to get keionificated. I'm not defying moe art. I just want to see different moe styles and not just a standardized one.
Forced moe is forced.
K-on has an interesting style, but I miss the old KyoAni... :'(
Too much degradation...
Otakus conclusion: Degradation, theme close xD
Wow, So・Ra・No・Wo・To's original designs are drawn by the same artist who did Roronoa.. Damn.
Oh well, still going to look forward for it. There's a Meganekko Mugi in there :3
i think everyone is being a little to serious its not like were looking at animation shots its some cover art for magazines and the like. its not that i dont care about what it looks like but what it looks like dosnt change what its about
This is because most animation studios have shipped their labor to China and Korea.
Problem is, these people can't create anything original, only produce poor copies of mediocre source material.
This is exactly why I loathe K-ON...
The original to Sora no Wo To is way cuter than the K-Onified version
Inb4 K-ON Geass
I can't tell the difference!
What have they done to my Haruhi? They all look like noseless blobs! ;_; What's so special about K-On's style anyway?