The Philippines has based a draconian ban on child pornography which means a potential life sentence for possessing books, comics or artwork considered by authorities to depict a child involved in sexual activity.
Republic Act 9775, “the Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009,” previously reported here, has now been signed into law, and its provisions seem to be far more severe and far-reaching than previously imagined.
Producing, distributing, “promoting” or possessing anything defined as child pornography attracts anything up to a life sentence and a fine of 5 million pesos ($110,000).
The ban sweepingly defines child pornography as “any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, or a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities.”
Alongside actual pornography featuring underage participants (which was already illegal), the ban clearly makes no distinction between fictional and non-fictional material, prescribing the same extreme penalties for both.
With no clear definition of “explicit sexual activities,” it also seems authorities are free to apply their own standards of judgement.
The ban on textual and audio material would also appear to define even talking about child sexuality as child pornography, and undoubtedly bans a variety of literary works featuring underage sex.
Possessing Vladimir Nabokov’s literary classic Lolita, considered one of the best English novels of the twentieth century, would certainly seem to attract a possible life sentence under these provisions.
As is usual with such laws, those under 18 writing about or recording activities with other “children” also face the full weight of the law, so in theory a minor could be handed a life sentence for writing about having sex with their partner, although presumably in such cases judges might decide to be lenient.
Internet service providers, hosts and owners of business premises are also enjoined to monitor for and quickly report any offending activity.
One of the authors of the bill rejoices at her success:
“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”
Displaying its usual commitment to freedom of expression, the EU expressed its delight with the draconian bill through its ambassador:
“It is extremely a positive step forward to fight child pornography. We are pleased that the legislature passed the bill and the President signed it into a law on November 17.”
Unsurprising considering international pressure was one reason for the ban.
Leaving aside the issue of the poorly written nature of the law, actual enforcement of the law is unlikely to be very effective, as the Philippines is by any estimation a chaotic and corrupt nation unable to enforce its existing body of laws, let alone any new ones. However, this is in itself hardly reassuring…
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Does this include drawn images of children, and how do they figure out who is a “child”?
I appreciate the effort to make this law and the good intention it wishes to achieve. But I am appalled as to why they are so serious with this censorship, while outside there are REAL children who are being sold and molested. If the law can’t even protect these children, how can they even enforce this new law and penalize the offenders which are even harder to locate, and with the advent of the internet and sharing technologies also to mention rampant piracy, how would they know who’s who to arrest?
The law states that a victim of child pornography is also a victim of a violent crime. So is this a loophole? If I watch drawn underage girls involved in explicit sex, who would be the victim? The drawn character? I will be apprehended for doing a violent crime against a fictional character which doesn’t even have rights. The same with written expressions, who would be the victim if people write or read a fictional underage character having sex?
it's okay, I understand. For a citizen of the Philippines(like me), this is just torture honestly... fucking midget president...signing such a stupid law...
yea i know what u mean pal, im a cirizen to, bastards ! ¬¬
you know whats funny? its 5m php because before it hits where it should go
4.99m would go to their pockets
its just to say...and you know how useless the police are there right?
god this law wont be handle effectively...a few couple of bills and people will shut up about stuff they see
Be Proud, Your Country is Corrupt !!
If Manny Pacquiao where to become president...
Nah, blame the congress and senate on this. Those idiots intentionally didn't go to work for several days to watch some boxing match ringside courtesy of the taxpayers.
They just want to look like they are doing something.
Election times are near, and and winning the church over is a significant boost in the number of people voting for you.
Police here are NOT computer literate and they get their pron from pirated disk hawkers in downtown manila.
When police raid companies suspected of using pirated software, they are always accompanied microsoft personnel who do the checking.
Just keep your PC's personal and there shouldn't be any problem
agree big time...
but she'll make more people happy by signing her resignation paper...
as a fellow pinoy i feel your pain.. tarded midget probably wanted to add 1 last hurrah to her end of term...
Truecrypt hidden volumes and TOR. Yay!
Well, we can't do anything about it because our country is run by corrupt midget. They care more about what people don't really see and turns a blind eye on the big issues. Hope that in the next election better people would take the lead.
" Hope that in the next election better people would take the lead."
That is one problem, now that we have the law, if ever we get better people (those who are not corrupt and such), there's a chance that enforcing of laws would be better, and that means we get more arrests because they're just simply following the law.
But if the "better people" could have taken the lead before these moralists made the law and the midget signed it, chances are that this kind of law wouldn't be prioritized because a much better law that cares about the economy and welfare would come as priority.
This is a bullshit. I appreciate the activity of the Philippine government, it's really a serious thing to stop the child molestation, and punish the criminals...
But I see two mistakes in this. First - sexual activity does not depend on the age. For example, in USA you're child until the age of 21, but the 80% of girls aren't virgin at 14. It implies something, eh?
Second - Everyone knows about the "legend" how Japan reduced the pedo activities by 90% - they allowed the loli mangas.
That would be 18 in most States afaik, 21 only seems to be an issue with regards to the consumption of alcohol.
If by most states you mean all states, then yes.
It's 21 to buy or possess alcohol (state law, but presently the case in every state), and to buy a handgun or the ammunition for a handgun from a dealer (federal law), but 18 is the age of majority in all states except Missouri (17), Alabama (19), Nebraska (19), and Mississippi (21). However the age of consent for sex is another matter, and that's 16 in most states, 17 in a few, and 18 in the rest. Most states also have a tiered system or "Romeo and Juliet" laws that make an exception to the AoC if the participants are sufficiently close in age - e.g., in my state, the AoC is 16, but 15 is legal as long as the other party is 18 or under. There is sometimes also an exception if the parties are married, since the marriageable age is actually less than the age of consent in some states.
In short, the legal definition of "child" in the U.S. is a giant clusterfuck.
Elections is fast approaching... <_<
ERAP will win again!!! D*mn!
Voting for political representatives is a complete farce. Regardless of who you elect, politicians will always put individual agendas above what's best for society.
Sound like communism or dictatorship in the making, maybe soon sharia will be the big word in the street.
Should be interesting to see how many countries over time will fall politically it theocracy and plain mafia run governments.
I also feel this is a bad move... If I'm into loli porn and I know that I could get the same sentance wether I'm watching anime or real loli porn, that can tempt me to go the extra mile and get into real lolis.
Its like the murder and rape law, if the rape sentance go up, the murder one does too to avoid that people just kill their victims (no testimony) because they know they'll get the saw treatment anyway...
Bottom line, that's not the way they'll stop child abuse because whatever they think, drawn childrens aren't childrens.
Actually, there is no such thing as 'child sexual abuse' in reality. It's time to realize that children are VERY able to make their own choices in sexual matters, that they ARE sexual beings (hell, I've been propositioned by 6 year olds before), and realize that we are putting them in TRUE danger by forcing pedosexuality underground.
It is just simply time to bring pedosexuality out into the open, allow the adults in question to proposition children out in the open, and only intervene if said adult is trying to PHYSICALLY FORCE THE CHILD INTO A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER!
Otherwise, just butt the fuck out! The only person whose business that is: the child and the adult in question.
I know someone is going to bring up "What about STD's!?" Well, nearly all pedosexuals don't HAVE those STD's, proven by government studies into 'child molesters' in prison.
Well, intervening after the fact means you're too late. Also, I disagree with your claim that kids are able to make choices regarding sexual matter. Children aren't that intelligent. Hell, they're in an emotive state until they get into (some past) their freaking teenage years. To even try to claim that they are capable of making "RATIONAL" decisions and bear the full weight of the responsibilities that accompany sex is preposterous.
Also while sex isn't as sacred as some religious people make it out to be (it's just a means of reproduction), it still holds more meaning than pleasure in our society. Kids having sex without knowing the values it holds aren't going to grow up healthy and wholesome. There's also the chance of getting hooked on it like any other pleasure inducing substance, and that would probably ruin their lives.
All that said, tempting kids into pleasure (doubt sex without an adult is pleasurable anyways) is pretty freaking sick, since you're just taking advantage of the youth of their mind. We keep them away from knowledge of it for a reason.
In any case though, what I'm saying only applies to prepubescents. Teens are rational enough to understand that actions comes with consequences. Kids aren't. Also, sex and prostitution are two different matters.
in india daughters take advantage of their fathers and have no problems.
It's one of their best expiriences and come out better sometimes,shurely they also say to use pills and condoms.
It is a special bond that most of us will never understand.
India has a faith-based system, and most of their people are pretty religious, or so I think. That said, faith sort of keeps them in line. As for the incest thing, well, I never knew. As for North America, I agree that it is a bit too fanatic about making victims where there are none to be found (ie. kids consented and it didn't feel bad to them). However, what I'm not going to agree on is the fact that having no law in place will prove to be a better deterrent than having at least some measure.
And as for sex as a child, I'm just going off assumptions (better safe than sorry). Kids are a lot more sensual than adults in the sense that pain and/or pleasure leaves a huge imprint on them (physical traumas develop more easily in kids). While it's probably natural to crave sex as a human being, I don't think it's natural to be thinking about it all the time as a kid. Kids who find themselves addicted to it or overly curious often ends up harming themselves or others.
I thought of sex when I was young and no I did not become addicted, I personally had a fond for the older ladies in those days, young girls looked like flag poles 20 year ago. It would have been nice to do my teacher in science class dam she was so hot.
Unlike now where 10 year old look like 15 plus, makes you wonder what they are eating to look like that so young.
Don't cry...
Have hope...
On Loli Island...
See you in Bilibid Prison, once the witchhunt commences against those who possess H-materials.
I and the other lolicons might want to hold a Lolicon Convention inside the prison and even our loli president is invited to join the event. =)
You would get raped first before you could do your convention.
..and so you, too. =)
i doubt that anyone will see you in prison, this is just one of those laws that is passed that no one in laww enforcement will care about... police men here don't even know what number they will catch for the color-coding law for cars....
You're dead ichiro! You're gonna be in jail! lol.
Mass murder would earn you more respect, maybe more wealth and the same end sentence, if you come to be caught.
I sense regression and anchoring...
Next step, ban every violent drawing because those drawings have right and they must be protected. And if you're watching drawings of people murdering others, it's just because you're a heartless murderer, you filthy bastard !
I know what you're thinking exactly just by looking at what drawings you like. Telepathy ? Hah, only newbies and fools use that !
Mass murder would get you the death sentence, unless your country prohibits it.
Then again, death sentence sounds better option compared to life sentence.
@Anon 22:58
I absolutely approve of you. Mass murder and child molestation ARE definitely crimes, but watching fictional films about killing peolple or reading loli manga is NOT. Also, to think about stealing something doesn't equals stealing it. It only means aptness.
Killing people in most religions seem to be ok, actually most real religions people I know love to see sick killing movies like SAW, what they freak out is on the sex part, their God (s) seems to have a problem with sex but not with killing others.
So killing is nothing, its just a part of religious indoctrination, after all if you don't believe what I believe your nothing to me is their way of thinking, they don't say it but if you ask the right questions they basically have it in them.
If you look behind the facade for a bit, you'll see that it makes a lot of sense. They can jail an otaku or two every once in a while and it'll make big news not only in the Philippines, but also and mainly in international news outlets. The government can present the world another "child molester" in jail and child welfare and feminist organizations all over the world rejoice - all this without the huge inconvenience of actually having to deal with the child sex market still rampant as ever in the underground...
wall of text crit me for OVER 9000!
Good luck in Prison Ichiro D:
This shit happens when a nation bows to international pressure ( this means you,EU ) and illogical self rightious assholes (yes,Im looking at you UNICEF).
In Malaria...*cough* I meant Malaysia, apologies to malays. A fellow critic and blogger of Malaysia's political system has been placed under ISA(Internal Security Act) for an ANONYMOUS COMMENT on his article concerning malay morality.
The experience of being in ISA may vary depending on your actions. Since he isn't involved in crime or armed action, it's merely like being in jail for several weeks - due to an anonymous comment some malay written on your blog.
Nonetheless, there are some people who wish to abolish the ISA, because someone had died from the "interrogation" methods used when they SUSPECTED someone for corruption.
I think this is just for show and will die down anytime soon, just like their anti-piracy campaign where the government seems to have lost interest in the long run. Having a corrupt government has also a beneficial side, because of this law enforcement is poorly practiced and coordinated.
I don't know but hearing about it doesn't alarm me at all, maybe because I am aware that the law in this country has no teeth to enforce it's policy. In the long run, things will just die down like as if they had forgotten about it.
The reason tehy do it isn't to proetct the rights of 2D children, it's the idea that if one has the desire to read/watch/enjoy fictional/2D children in sexually explicit situations, then those people are also likely to want to take it up an otch and go for the real thing.
I think it's to try to nip it in the bud - stop real child abuse before it starts.
Of course there is the point that jsut because someone uses 2D child ornography doesn't mean they'll actually do it - in fact it stops them from doing it, well, you ahve to think of the mindset that person has to begin with. If you enjoy 2D child pornography then u have the same mindset as thsoe who watch 3D child pornography.
I believe the point is now they don't actually have to arrest the real offenders to get good results. I mean who's harder to arrest? The black markets selling children or a lonely guy using his computer?
They will jut say "Every child is a victim".
In the end... Politicians are just spineless when there's international pressure. Talk about peer pressure. It's exactly the same.
I think that, countries are simply putting down these laws for self-gratification. There's no true meaning behind it, since like Ichiro Ino said, the law can never really provide enough protection.
I live in the Philippines...this is just torture for a lolicon like me....and that stupid midget president too...I hate her! Fucking midget
Oh well, at least oppai material isn't banned
Hooray, let's ban lolicon and give lots of people reason to just turn to CP because it's all the same in the eyes of the law if they wind up caught! Yeah, that'll totally make the world a better place!
Right in one. It's about time that they realized that pedosexuality is a NORMAL sexuality, and that if they don't want them having sex with REAL children, they are going to have to give these people like myself OTHER ways to sate their perfectly normal sexual impulses..... such as lolicon.
They can stop with the argument that "Lolicon creates pedosexuals!" Nope... pedosexuals find lolicon, realize this is a safe way to sate the impulses that they already have, and children are 'safer'.... though they would really be SAFEST if we would just legalize pedosexuality, bring adult/child sexual encounters out into the open, and move on!
In an ideal world perhaps you'd be right. Hopefully, someday humans will get to the place where children will be able to fully express their sexuality. How repressive are these kinds of laws to children? Do they create an arbitrary and artificial environment that stunts and deforms their normal and healthy psycho-sexual development? Personally, I wish I would have had a safe place to go to explore my sexuality as a child. However, the current worldwide trend is toward more repression.
wow.pinoy otaku should run from Philippines now
izu taisa
Down with Gloria Arroyo!
LOLZ! Like I follow our own laws! Philippine Otakus are just as law violators as any common Filipino! Besides, who is going to tell that we own loli-hentai porn? Mom? Like that would happened.....
For me even with the new law in effect, business as usual!
PUTANG INA NYO KUNG ANO ANO GINAGAWA NYO MGA TARANTADONG MORALISTA KAYO.
that said I'm stashing all my collections in a safe place.
Tanga ka talaga! Dali lang mag burn ng hentai sa dvd di mo magawa? Anu ka, poor?
Look at this guy, using english when you can say "mahirap"
pfft. filipinos suck. I'm a filipino. I know it.
Anon 21:56
Holy shit you have definitely been white washed.
@21:51 anon
tanga! by collection I mean all my dvds and data files that I have accumulated through the years. FYI may dvd burner ako sa laptop ko bobo!
lol @ anons who think tagalog has any real hurtful impact anymore. Now that I've been exposed to some sick shit in the U.S., hurling insults in tagalog is like... kids calling you a poopie-head, caca face. Whose fart smells.
<-some random anon, btw.
Yeah. now that I think about it, even being called a fucking retard isn't that insulting anymore. It's more of an invitation to a thinly veiled homoerotic dialogue.
Its like pissing and a ocean of piss, pointless.
they should put more effort in actually protecting the loli's
sorry, prostitution's actually still going on there. regardless.
Filipinos are just stubborn.
You put a safety cone around a construction area, ppl steal the cone. And the construction never gets done.
Maybe it's just too fucking hot. Even terrorists in the southern philippines go "It's too hot. Let's release some hostages."
" “We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”"
Except for the millions of children living in the garbage dump-like slums all over the country, of course. No wonder Filipinos move to other countries...
In(fucking)deed. It's funny how out of order politicians tend to think. Morons! (just about) all of them!
Wow, sounding (alot) like Canada over there.....
“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”
Because protecting fictional children is the same as protecting real children from abusive families and of course a pedophile is a child molester.
1. Pedo -An adult who is sexually attracted to children
2. Child molester -A man who has sex (usually sodomy) with a boy as the passive partner
Attraction equals rape, make note of this.
Holy crap! I've been raping fictional people remotely for years now and never even noticed it!
Better go poke out my eyes.
Sorry, but no, they are not going to be a 'safe haven for children'. The only thing they are doing is driving the child sex trade underground, where we will find little bits and pieces of the children spread over the entire COUNTRY if they try to protest against the people who are forcing them into sex.
Really, most of the time, the children were NOT being forced into sex over in the Phillipines.... they were asked by their parents if they would get involved in it, with eyes wide open, to help support their families.
I think that's a little owerdoing it. -.-'
I don't think my country would really enforce this law anyway, I mean considering we got hit with 4 insane typhoons. I suggest focusing on aiding the people rather than aiding 2D fictional lolis.
The Filipinos are good, intelligent, reasonable people. Too bad their government isn't...
-imhgtsukishiro
(http://n3grp.multiply.com)
lol@dislike button
I hate our stupid monkey president and her cabinet of chimps!!!
Which President!?
This is like imposing a ban on masturbation
LOL, if such a ban was imposed, they might as well lock up the Earth in a cage.
Remember, the FBI's watching you masturbate.
yeah but they don't arrest us for it, and that's all that matters, I say let em watch.
Damm, those FBI agents sure are real pervs...
Damn!!, now I have to go underground X(
Oh, now I really love, happy and proud and happy to stay in Malaysia.. (for now).
Let's all migrate to Malaysia! lol! I don't think the Malaysia government have big issues with this.
Yes... starting with.... SABA.
yes... I think we've found the solution to the overpopulation problem.
....Invade Malaysia.
In before our own government pulling the same shit as Philippines.
This weeaboo website is disgusting. But this news story is so shocking. They can't just lock nice people in prison because they watch child porn
Catholics...
Not only that.
The Feminists, if you read the previous article regarding the ban, most of the pursuers were feminists.
Yeah, and you know WHY the feminists are pushing stuff like this? Because if little girls and boys realize how good sex feels (as I did when I was a child).... they will REJECT the anti-sex bullshit of the feminists!
And feminism will be sent back to where it should have been..... the explosion site of a nuclear bomb, being wiped out forever!
I have no problem with females having THE SAME RIGHTS AS MEN.... but we are going way too far towards females having MORE rights than men in most countries around the world.
It's not a question of Catholic or not..... Elections are coming up.... bet it is an attempt to get points.... "Dagdag pogi-points" we say in our language....
Rated RR - Religion Retards
@Anonymous at 21:48 20/11/2009
Amen to that
i agree
Actually, the religion in our country is ok, it's just that some of the government officials are such moralists , they impose their beliefs to the public. The Reproductive Health Bill for example, most of the country's intellectuals (who are also Christians) approve of this bill, but the hypocrites on the opposition make it difficult for this bill to be passed. there's a difference between practicing religion with your own personal conviction and following blind faith. I hate to admit it, but our government officials and some religious groups in our country are modern day Pharisees.
Uh, the Philippine Catholic Church has been interfering with the passing of that bill (and others)for years now.
I agree. If they were muslim old men could freely marry lolis(and have sex with them) without any moral or social stigma. Plus this kinda of law would totally be anti-religion.
“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”
Safe haven for children? And what's protecting the children that don't know better from being arrested for talking photo of themselves? (not that it didn't happen already) Or writing romance fiction stories that involve kissing/hugging/touching?
Those idiots might as well banned photographing of writing anything involve any human being under the age of 18 entirely <_<
Well, perhaps even a child victim giving a testimony, talking about the act, will be guilty? Not to mention media won't report cases as it might be considered child pornography?
Hmmmmm, guess I'll have to think twice about going to the Philippines with my computer then.
I already fear a lot of things since my PC has both loli and ecchi stuff
Just install TrueCrypt and put a 20+ character password that is impossible to guess. Preferebly use a keyfile or two hidden somewhere around your system.
Not even NSA and their PS3 farm will get through that in any reasonable time.
Otherwise, you can use BitLocker if you happen to own Vista Ultimate or Win7 Ultimate.
lol how about the live action ones with real life loli's involved... why they always pick on 2D's *sigh
LOL lets all try real life loli-raep! Since 2-D is banned anyway....
NOT!
This reminds me...
Good bye Santino.
Good bye father Jose.
Cool Story "Bro"
(It's from some show about a kid and several pederasts and a glowing man in white robes called "Bro")
its not a glowing man in white robes fucknut, he's supposed to be the son of god, and santino(boy, who sees "bro") who sees and talks to him, and he does miracles and shit.
question is, why watch that when the other channel has a chick in a bikini with a nice rack.
Because I don't like chicks with a nice rack and I prefer lolis?
btw, I don't watch Santino, I'm just aware that it's popular.
Stupid Government and their stupid laws how can you ban something that can still exist in the underground... you can't take away a humans Fetish on getting us into Jail...
WE ARE MORE THAN YOU KNOW~!!!
the way of thinking that people who has child pornography is or will be the criminal is narrow outlook.
I like pretty things, and what is bad!!
LOL! Its a suprise that there are a number of filipinos here? So, how many "high level" (high level = those that can keep up with the most latest anime from Japan with only the internet as their medium) Philippine Otakus are there
fucknut, don't you know anon is filipino?
I think the question is not "How many Philippine Otakus are here" but rather, how many Philippine Gov't Officials are here with us including those from non other than the Catholic church itself are amongst us. But I truly forgive them as they are after all, only human who happened to also like Lolis.
"now our country is going to be a safe haven for children."
Whatever crack that woman was on when she said this, I want some.
Riiiight,
And those who will take care of these children are behind bars simply for mere possession.
Yep, what great minds we have here (at least if you look the other way).
Damn agreed; Loli materials possessors in jail, real child rapists still walk around hunting for more little brown girls.
well, if that nation is so fixated for the most part on variety shows and cheap, inane soap operas, and their most recent reason to boast is only a boxer whose most memorable quote is "with great power comes with great responsibility" from spider man, uh.
...it's not really surprising that they'd say "ANIME IS PEDOPHILE, OMG"
I dunno. I'm Filipino, but I guess I'm whitewashed? Or maybe there IS an objective difference between intellectual perception of things with regards to each culture. (It's a cultural difference, not an intellectual one?)
It's not like Filipinos have contributed anything worth mentioning in a while. (unless you count being extras or background characters in hollywood films? Adobo? sex tourism? cheap domestic helpers? nurses?)
Jose Rizal, the Filipino national hero's stance is this "Spain, make us a part of your country!"
Emilio Aguinaldo, the Filipino George Washington, was a dictator who put to death his enemies and ran to Hong Kong when the Americans were winning. He also worked with the Japanese government during WW2.
I dunno. It's a pretty fucked up place, but at least it's not Somalia. And Filipinos are happy, somehow, despite the government, ass-raping typhoons, etc.
But tl;dr: Filipinos just tend to remind me of the proles from 1984. It's depressing.
I mean, I guess those are good things. I guess.
No problem you can watch any loli hentai in the internet or download it.........LOL XD
Poor Ichiro!
Don't mind.
I don't think this law will last as it is since by the definition of the law it bans sex education. It does ban talking about sex with people that are underage.
>It does ban talking about sex with people that are underage.
So children cannot ask parents about sex?
Well the religion plays a part in this law.
And to think that the religion and state is separate in this country....
I'm sorry but the Catholic church helped overthrow President Erap and put the midget in power. So who says separation of church and the state, they are only one and the same at least for now.
ok, here's how the logic there fails..
imma draw a stick figure with boobs.
"she's a loli" is exclaimed. phillipino law says i goto prison for life.
now all i have to say is it's local legal age.. wtf ever it is.
now. this is the lowest form of stupidity i have seen in any case... get real, stop worrying about crap like that.. we have real issues.. like why can't i buy a smores anymore???
Lol morality bullcrap
Haha, well good luck na lang at kahit sino pa ang pulitiko ang ilagay niyo dyan sa malacañang ay nakaukit na sa bato ang batas na yan.
kung meron lang isang pulitiko na kaya tanggalin ang batas na ito....
Then vote for me. I'll do it the Marcos way but no IMELDA this time
Ge sayo na tong pinas. Wala n rin pag-asa tong taeng bayan na to e. Wala rin naman mawawala kung lalo pang lalagapak ang gobyerno.
Kelan ba bumangon yon?
If the government watch out for every otaku in a convention, and conduct surveillance on their computers, and issue a search warrant on each of these otaku, male or female, and find ecchi, loli, shota, yuri, yaoi fanfics, pictures, videos etc. in their computers and sentence them for Life, I might as well, see you guys and prison.
What a glorious country you guys live in.
What, the government will also invade conventions!?!
OMG!!!
Government: *going to a convention* Lots of immoral people here-- DURR HERP HERP YOU'RE ALL UNDER ARREST FOR VIOLATION OF RA 9975. INDECENT EXPOSURE (cosplayers) AND THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING PEDOPHILES!! WARRANT-LESS ARREST BECAUSE YOU FAGS ARE CAUGHT IN THE ACT!!!
Filipino Otaku: ZOMG!!!111 PARTY V&'d?
That's unlikely, unless if our president has the same attributes as Marcos.
But it doesn't mean we should stop reassuring that government might do it otherwise.
Well then come visit us sometime
i suppose if the usa became a haven for child pornography, we'd probably go to extremes like this too.
oooohkay...
the pedos in the phils are white folk yunno. we filipinos see little kids nekkid everytime, dirty little things begging for money, looking for food in the trash.
so i see a lil brown girl, i don't mind. white folk like lil brown girls, not brown folk. brown folk like white chicks, just like black folk.
so phils, a haven for pedo? usa made it so.
Yesh, that's it! But why punish the brown folks just because they cannot touch the white people. Oh that is so sad.
oh...... that reminds me.
My part time job involves visiting many websites then classify them (as porn or something). If by chance I am working on a child pornography, I'll get arrested for working?
That is so Full of Bull!
Uh huh.
This is laughable. They can't even dream of controlling piracy; what makes them think that monitoring for pornography is remotely feasible?
Never underestimate how far moralists will go to persecute those who they view as a thread.
People like PJ members are not bellow vigilante freelancing and planting evidence (although in PJ's defense, at least they are actually stopping dangerous people).
I guess William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet is banned in Philippines now.
they don't read it over there anyway.
"Shakespeare, what the fuck is that, some sort of t.v. show? Btw, Pacquiao is AWESOME! brb, watching wowowee"
Does that also mean that doctors cannot take up pediatrics anymore because of their books have illustrations of so many nude children in them and Loli pictures too. The school doctors will also get a slap in the wrist for giving annual physical examinations to the school children?!
Good thing i'm not living in the Philippines. I surely would be dead by now.
@the authors of the bill
Protecting 2D lolis, that's OUR job.
Protecting 3D lolis, that's YOUR job.
QFT!
The bill itself is actually a good piece of work. It just needs a bit more fine tuning. Younger generations of Filipinos have more than embraced japanese visual arts in all forms. As we have come to appriciate their artistry even if at times these may be expressed in what would be considered in our culture as "unthinkably obscene" manner.
The current generation that holds sway over our nation is not only alienated from these art forms but are also deeply rooted in what can be called a stubborn loyalty toward the old norms. This fact coupled with the value our people place on family and children, would make our current officials' indiscriminate assault between actual perpetrators of child abuse and of individuals producing, propagating and availing fictional (albeit underage) sexual materials as "somewhat" understandable. I believe that this bill, in time, would be amended to focus more on actual lawbreakers than those who look like they "might become" child molesters.
So, for the time being, until otaku's fill at least 3/4 of the seats in the senate, we'll just have to keep all our underage hentai (whether they actually depict children or just short petanko's) and word of them under the sheets.... or inside 5 subfolders in your hard-drives.
We Filipinos make exceptionally good laws but fail miserably in upholding them.
Or just friggin encrypt whatever shit you want to hide. Google keyword: TrueCrypt
That's why we need net activism; OK, the number of internet users in the Philippines is quite low but it is the internet which is the real battleground today. Forget TV; we otaku fans never intend to show this on a mass scale. What we need is that this law is at least poorly defined and it is just the wet dream of bigoted feminists and moralists. We must revolt! Vamos!
awww...god dammit Philippines!
that's it! I'm moving..
Failippine's morality yet exceeded many disappointments.
I'm in the country itself, and I must say, they must upheld such strict law after they solve the problem, which is apparently the whole country itself.
A witty government, I say. So far, I don't see any causalities concerning this law in the news yet. I also doubt that these beer-bellied policemen are that active to arrest somebody who's interested in artworks.
the only solution: Invade Malaysia.
don't just invade sabah, invade west malaysia where there is more money!!
yeah right. if they attempt to invade malaysia, they'll end up becoming the malaysians servants just like the indonesians. almost every single in malaysia has at least one indonesian servant.
The policemen, while confiscating the lolicon thingies, will just keep them in the house for private consumption. How biased and insane.
yeah, unless you go with your laptop in a police station and show your stash to everyone, they prolly don't give a shit
Or unless you are doing REAL child pornography and have been found to be doing that.
“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a prison for people who adores drawings of fictional girls.”
"The ban sweepingly defines child pornography as “any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, or a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities.”"
No "Song of Ice and Fire" for Philippines... :F
Well the given statement by site is somehow incomplete of course the given law will be continuously improve.
About the statement on literary works:
C'mon the Philippines can't just go fetching those who are reading lolicon related literature, they would still go for certain measures either to imprisoned the person for immoral conduct or let him go because it's for his project or research, the same goes for all.
.......................................................
Concerning about this issue the main reason is because when the talk is about to Philippines it's either corrupt politician or entertainers (prostitute)
There goes their chance to read Stephen Kings "IT"
PUTANG INA LAW! IT WILL NOT work on INFLUENCIAL PPOL & CLOSE to the cabinet member of the president like what happen to rapist/killer of 2 sister deported to spain to continue(daw?) their sentence. FUCK THEM if that happens to their daugthers or kins thats a different kind of story kaya FUCK YOUR MORALITY LAW SHIT PURO BULLSHIT ANGTAGAL NYONG PALITAN SA PWESTO!!!
C'mon don't act like that I'm a filipino but i don't act like a savage beast.
Filipino has high morale.
Hopefully things will die down post-election. Politicians are just finding something to antagonize to gain more votes for the approaching election. Hopefully someone will post the list of politicians who agreed to this ban. Then we can make sure they never get into office.
yung labandera saka lahat ng alipores nya.
stupid midget
As long as it had been signed, the law stays. Anyone from the law can at anytime exploit the bill to harrass anyone with Manga,Yuri,Hayashibara, Lolis just for their own gains. Even the guy with a painting of Olympia is vulnearable.
Guys please remember that this is an international site. Please speak in English. Let us not embarrass Filipinos anymore.
Trolls are part of the 99% of this website
Lifetime sentence for hentai but 6 months to a year of sentence to corruct officials.
What do you expect?
This is the Philippines.. One of the most shittiest country of all. Only good thing here is that people can still find the time to be happy in life.
I'd bet you my life that in 2 decades this country is still in deep shit. And still pondering on corruption when they themselves are deemed corrupt.
But of course, they always protect their own kind and not the people they have sworn to protect under oath.
LoL
No matter how the law changes and the government acts, there is no way they can caught us. The Philippine system has a lot of loops and holes. We can "talk" to the police and officials before things get worse. We are alert, clever and brave. Nobody cares and life continues. :P
lol.. Quiapo and Divisoria, the hot spot of piracy and pornography, is still alive despite the countless raids of the police.
Agreed, they even sell child pornography there, not just loli hentai (Kagagaling ko lng kanina).
ooh i almost forgot the man who rape and kill the sisters i mention is a FILIPINO not a SPANISH national no reason to deport him. What a shame for their so called law with the same president who sign the law also the one who deported that man.
and the fine...
seriously 5 million pesos? are they insane?!
The sentence is very very brutal! I mean come on, rapists get life sentences even death. Why should possessing loli manga even in the same degree as rape? Why don't they just on other problems like poverty and corruption rather than putting 5 million bail on someone who can't even make 100,000 a year.
Because (playing Devil's Advocate here) these people looking at Lolicon have probably doinked a child or two!
That is one argument that someone used, and it's a bullshit argument, because then we should assume that because someone has snuff porn, that they have actually killed someone for sexual gratification!
Or, just becuase someone watches Friday the 13th, that they are a Jason-like serial killer.
THIS IS MADNESS!
Ha ha, NO.
I don't really care. I hate my country anyway.
lol its just a paper law.
roll on my fellow failipinos.
Another step back for the world.
Uhmm... The government should have more pressing issues than this...
Poverty, Political Corruption, Insurgency in Mindanao etc..
And now they are wasting time for sh!t like this?!
Give me a break! Though loli's are not to my preferences but that is not the point! and every sane Filipino should already know that!
Well, election is just around the corner.
so im insane??
my friend stalin [he's standing beside me right now] begs to differ.
1st time to comment... All I can say is Puta........ Wla iwan natin tong pinas. Kung sakupin tyo uli ng hapon?
Magnetic? WTF?!?!?!
the probably mean a magenitc film.
Probably means those Betamax and VHS tapes.
This is a good thing. I like the line to be clearly established between people who like anime/manga, and the people who like indulging their bizarre and creepy fetishes which would be crimes if they occurred in reality.
you said it yourself..
"IF THEY OCCURED IN REALITY."
normal people who play shooting games don't gun people down.
normal people that read vampire novels dont drink blood.
its a work of fiction.. sure its erotic fiction, but the same can be said for standard 3d porn.
im not defending the fetish [well i am to a degree] but if you have enough mental capacities to keep reality from fantasy, reading/possesing 2d manga of non-existent characters having sex should be alright.
/rant.
I think he/she was being sarcastic...
Everyone knows why they are banning lolicon, their very own child prostitution market has taken a hit because people would rather jacket to some 2D loli then pay for a disease ridden 3D loli. The government is pissed that a main tourist income is being undermined.
Well fuck you, Philippines, and fuck your laws. I hope your people take over the country and throw your corrupt asses in the lion pit. You fuckers don't deserve to live. Your ban of 2D loli to distract us from the fact the you're letting a REAL CHILD being raped 20 times a day has not gone unnoticed. Your days are numbered.
Viva La Revolucion!
yeah we tried that multiple of times..
like goggles, IT DOES NOTHING.
i'm willing to admit that the only real way to clean up around here is to gather all politicians, be they new or old ones and blow them up in one hit.
Hey, not ALL politicians support stuff like this. There are quite a few politicians in the United States and else who look at this stuff as being stupidity of the first caliber.
fuck you! you the one that should die!
Isn't it cute? Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo learned to use the internet. HI!!! *waves*
Being a criminal for possesing a drawn image of a human is beyone insane, not to mention getting a LIFE SENTENCE.
Not that Im into lolis, but what has world come to??
Insanity based on the religious stupidity that 'god' (who doesn't exist in any way, shape or form) didn't want us to be sexual until we are 'married', yet couldn't make us WITHOUT genitals until we are 'married'.
Plus, the insanity of the feminists and femnazis who know that people who have CONSENSUAL AND WONDERFUL sexual experiences with adults as children will REJECT their bullhockey about sex being 'bad' for children.
Sinong senador nagpasa nung batas? Mamatay ka na.
Lahat ng babaeng Senador. Sina Jamby, Miriam, Pia, atbp.
lol moralfags.
brb looking for assasins.
or maybe just a wad of c4.
heck even old fashioned dynamite, smuggled through the senate doors [easy as pie i tell you] would be enough..
Sino ba sa kanila tatakbo sa 2010? yun sigurado ung nagpasa.
Let me prepare my voodoo chant.............
Kukulamin natin sya.
"Leaving aside the issue of the poorly written nature of the law, actual enforcement of the law is unlikely to be very effective, as the Philippines is by any estimation a chaotic and corrupt nation unable to enforce its existing body of laws, let alone any new ones. However, this is in itself hardly reassuring…"
lol
Don't put Philippines in the same level as malaysia and thailand who are more "3rd World" than we are. Sure, it's a corrupt country but i'd rather live here in this country than live in a country that has constant beheadings and murder.
>implying Indonesia or Malaysia REALLY are worse economically and politically than the Philippines.
You are misinformed. Malaysia is a 1st world nation now. Thailand has a better economy. We're on the level of Vietnam. The crime rate of Thailand is no worse than Philippines. And Malaysia is just anal like Singapore.
*Cough* I'll say the reason why Malaysia, and let me use North East Malaysia as an example, looks like a 3rd world country is because of those illegal street immigrants from you-know-where..
Well, Failippines has had it's numerous share of constant beheadings and senseless murders.
haha good thing i'm not a fan of stupid loli
so you're a fan of intelligent loli. care for some ruri hoshino?
mods gotta work overtime.. the comments are turning into shit-flinging in no time.
also another LOL @ the moralfags.
Oh noes! Bleedman!
poor guy...
maybe he can get around it by saying his characters are a 100 years old and only looks like a child
YOU KNOW WHY GLORIA SIGNED IT? BECAUSE GLORIA CONSIDERED HERSELF AS A LOLI.. Shes endangered HOLY SHIT PWNED
Loling matanda naman un eh. Bleh. kakadiri.
Think of Gloria doing gravure and saying Oniichaann~~ oh FUCK
goddamit.. and i9 was just about to go to sleep..
NOW IM GONNA HAVE NIGHTMARES.
i invoke rule 34 on this. anon, stat, we need 34 of gma, for the evilulz
So technically my copy of Alan Moore's Lost Girls can possibly be used as evidence against me... >_> WTF
So technically saying GMA wants to leave a good impression b4 she leaves her position, but for us it will be a total crap. Anyway its just a paper signed and sooner or later they are going to wipe it on their ass
It doesn't matter, this would never be enforced..the chances of them catching anyone for this is 0 to none..There's more a chance for them to kill themselves than for them to enforce this.
War on X.
Replace X with drugs, terrorism, piracy, and child pornography.
You'd realize that none of these wars were won, and never will be. Their country isn't any safer. No one's is by these laws. Blunt force does not work.
And then Philippines was the terrorists.
Leaving the discussion about how dumb it is to arrest people for 2D depictions and how this is a very serious threat to freedom of speech aside, I have to point out how utterly stupid this is:
“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”
Yeah. They really think passing a law will turn a situation from one extreme to another.
Watching too many movies lately, it seems?
I dunno how things happens in Philipines, but I live in Brazil, which is also a known place for sexual exploitation of minors.
And following the international trend, politicians who apparently know nothing about the harsh reality of some countries, also came up with laws similar to those ones.
But you see, NOTHING changed. And I'll explain why:
The vast majority of child abuse cases happens with tourists and foreigners paying to have sex with minors that are forced to work as prostitutes.. something that happens on the poorest brazilian states, and also something that always was illegal.
Other than that, most other cases happens at home.
We had only one minor change right after new laws were implemented, but it had nothing to do with the law itself, but with the joint effort of the police force to go after big schemes of child exploitation, which ended in several arrests.
But the law change really did nothing. It only proved what we really need is a better more present police force.
It's clear, at least in Brazil, that implementing new laws is just a politic move to save face, or pretend they are really making an effort to stop child exploitation.
But if we go to less developed states where the problems are worse, nothing has changed.
You'll still be able to easily find children selling their bodies in the middle of the street in broad daylight because the police didn't change their attitude.
The whole loli ban is a scapegoat. It's just a way for politicians not to go after the real sources and discuss the real problems of society, because that would be way too hard for their peanut sized brains.
It's easier to go against something that was already stereotyped by the mass media as something evil, even when they have no evidence of that.
Now, That midget GMA has imposed such a law that force more Pinoy to watch more bomba Movies or even worse instead
Hope that it is not goign to be worsened to follow the footpath of Marcos & Cronies ... or Sjhe and her crtonies would have to withness "Rape of Manila" as the wrathful revenge against such a law!
No way I like Marcos rule the problem is IMELDA
We could have been Spanish, American or Japanese *if they won the war*... now we are just a nation of Pacquiao is teh #1 shutupmotherfucker flame mongering trolls who don't understand satires or sarcasm.
You just had to have your independence, didn't you? You could have been a state of the US by now...
.....but one of our past presidents said he'd rather have our country run by hell by Filipinos than like heaven by Americans, so here we are today......
i hate you anon because you speak the truth, and the truth hurts ;___;
Actually, the American people should be thankful Failippine didn't become part of the U.S. Because if you count votes with the population of the Filipinos including those who already lives in the States, the midget could've been President of the United States. Now, dosen't that sound like the worst nightmare to you?
soo uhhh in the philippines what does have this effect into... uhhh.... seriously.... how big are we talking about here and how active is the law implementation again this is utter crap and by I mean useless
Oh thank god this is just for the philippines. Thought for a moment it was in the US.
Phew.
In time, bro, in time.
we all need to start our own sovereign nation on a deserted island somewhere where there is no inane laws or censorship and everyone is free to think whatever they want and do what they want provided it doesnt actually harm anyone else. WHO'S WITH ME?! Hey dont all yell at once, I've grown fond of my ear drums..
Doesn't loli "also" mean women of age who look prepubescent? I think child pornography is nasty tho.
lol Christians.
Yet again I'm left in despair over my countries attempt to gain the global limelight not to mention election points...
Its always near election period when these damn politicians start doing stuff. And by stuff I mean everything. I mean why the fuck would you implement a law at the end of a Term. With the next election coming there's a 90% chance that newly elected officials won't give a crap about the new law coz they have their own agendas to deal with.
Kinda like how this Mayor of my place fixed half a street... HALF... He actually expects to be re-elected so he can finish the other half... Utter bullshit...
I sincerely hope that in the near future with the sea levels rising... The Philippines will just go to the bottom of the ocean...
it almost did fucknut, its called ondoy. that sucked balls
nah if it dose go for us no point in lookin at loli hentai,pics or w/e just do the real thing rape girls cuz u get the same jail time so why not go for the real thing lol
regardless of that new law, here @ the Philippine we can still F*ck lolis for a mere 3$ (250php) bill
Fresh loli = 50$ :)
roflolmaomg XD
This is a good move (sucks to you, pedophiles)
Japan should follow suit.
Hmmm..
So an image of the Virgin Mary nursing a baby Jesus would get folks into trouble for kiddy porn huh...
Afterall, men sucks breasts as well and from a sexual motive, and seeing how this law makes no clear distinction, well then baby Jeus sucking on Mary's oppai is the exact same thing.
And wouldn't that also make the Roman Catholic Church the biggest kiddie porn peddlers.. Haul all the priests to the pokey...
Why it is unforgivable for a human being that lived 14 years from birth and have a clearly developed sexuality, to have a natural need and curiosity at exploring the matter of gender relations, is F-U-C-K-I-N-G BEYOND ME!!!!! I couldnt POSSIBLY describe by words HOW UN_FUCKING_BELIEAVABLE, UNSENSIBLE, IDIOTIC, FUCKING MORRONISTIC this shit is. I can barely breath when thinking about this matter. It defies the logic, the rationality, it defies the NATURE itself!! It's just that UN. FUCKING. BELIEVABLE.
Man.... this thing is the second worst and senseless thing in this world, allowing only the WAR to take the first place.
Dude, in the first place owning anything loli (may it be hentai anime or manga, 2d or 3d) is just plain wrong. BUT imposing such a harsh penalty (Life, not to mention 5 million freaking bucks) Is MUCH MUCH WRONG.
But how is owning some loli content is wrong? You see, if I'm, let's say, a 14 y.o. boy, and I want to do a 14 y.o. girl (or at least see her naked doing stuff like in H-manga) is that wrong? It's fucking natural! Killing is unnatural (well, debately of corse), but this thing is just a given.
Lol Bleedman will be fucked, is he still living in the Philippines?
To me, pedophilia has become the new red scare. Just as people in the 50's and 60's were paranoid that their neighbors could be a potential communist, today people have become paranoid over the fact that there could be pedophiles lurking at every corner.
All for the "safety of children" supposedly.
hey you were on /a/ last night...
better hide my doujins X_____X
What do actual child molesters get then, A slap on the wrists?
arrested then deported usually.
after reading all the comments, a few things.
bleedman is a filipino? omgwtf?
this law is so that the midget president can be remembered as doing something right (in the eyes of moralfags, which number more than you might think) before she steps down.
like we'd forget the zte deal and trying several times to pass the charter change. not to mention silencing the media a few times with a few dead reporters here and there and maybe light to heavy treason.
once yer time as pres is up, yer gonna fry midget.
my only hope is this law is amended properly (definitions, limitations, etc etc.) if the next regime does pick it up, or it gets trashed outright.
they should do something about the poverty first specially after ondoy(ketsana?) and a host of other storms hit us before they think about passing a law that even the us could not(probably) enforce.
btw how feasible is it to actually monitor every goddam ip in the country and log every goddam site and download? and then issue a warrant for ALL of them?
besides, won't that go against some laws, its like wiretapping isn't it, which is IIRC illegal, unless there's a warrant for it, or some shit?
Yea wiretapping citizens without warrants is illegal.
Unless your a terrorist.
The US government has been using anti terrorist laws to nab low level marijuanna street dealers.
They probably won't even tell you if they collected evidence through wiretapping they'd use the evidence to search you then never say it was gathered from wiretap but from the search.
The law is a trick to actualy get rid of men and bash them for everything,emasculate men and bring huge amounts of money for the goverment system when prosecuting people mostly in favor of women,even if the women is at fault.
Creating a huge dsyfunction in society,families,destroying man and womens life if used wrong.Society is already enough dysfunctional in america
I say down with this kind of feministic capitalism.
The law is totaly ok when it goes against real casses and real people to help them.
But when the law goes beyond that like fiction that doesn't hurt anyone and promoting to lock up innocent parents for their normal family pictures and creating a huge misunderstanding in society and paranoa then that society is tend to end up in the path of destruction.
Men are men.When it comes to fiction they are not hurting anyone and are using it as an outlet(some don't need such stuff at all).
The Philippines needs a change of government!
Japan did!
Indeed!
The Philippine already had several change of governments and we're still being run like Hell.
If a meteorite falls on Earth, I hope it squashes Manila...or Vatican City!!
We already got hit
Ahahah, encore un pays de bouseux de merde constellé d'attardés.
Phillipines, funny country.
Ok a little case study here, since I'm not totally aware of this. Lest say somebody owns a hentai manga, depicting a character that seems like a minor (loli of "ambiguous" age) engaging in sexual activities, but there's a statement inside the manga in question saying that all characters appearing in it are supposedly of legal age, and the real age is not mentioned again in the actual content. Is it illegal then?
Eroges/VNs do this to just to be safe.
It fucking blows my mind how something that Does Not Fucking Exist needs to have an age.
Wait a sec, if most animes feature characters under 18 and have fan service episodes putting the characters in sexual situations, does that mean an almost complete ban on anime there?
more like censorship like how 4Kids massacred some anime through censorship
The Philippines: No longer a safe place for darling little Ukes.
note to self, never go to philippine. put self destruct in laptop.
I guess I have to encrypt a lot of files in my laptop.....
Possessing Vladimir Nabokov’s literary classic Lolita, considered one of the best English novels of the twentieth century, would certainly seem to attract a possible life sentence under these provisions.
Not sure I have met or have heard of any one that thinks that book is one of the "best English novels" Actually I do not know any one that has read it or even saw the whole movie, with Jeremy Irons. A much better film was The Girl by New World films.
Time, for one. There are many others - perhaps you only associate with philistines?
I shall return.. when lolis are not banned
Wait a minute, I though the church here is not supposed to get invovled with politics, since this bill is politically motivated (with courtesy of those feminazis), why did the church got involved in implementing this law?
Because the church is more powerful than the state?
Another senseless law past, this law has more loop hole than swiss cheese...
CURSE you GMA
People HER height OR SHORTER shouldn't run for public office!
How TALL is Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, anyway!
They should elect a TALLER MALE President.
We did elect a tall male president but the midget run him off and forcibly proclaimed herself the smallest president in the world.
OH. I SEE HOW IT IS.
lol Philippines. they probably think that this law will help them be better perceived as a civilized and industrialized nation...too bad outside of big cities they are still basically a third world country.
That is one ugly loli.
For once, I'm glad I wasn't born in the Philippines.
So just by viewing the front page of this site can get you life. Great law there.
Let the criminals, rapists, drug dealers go while they arrest people with loli porn. Only in the Philippines. As expected in a country that is swarming with idiots. Don't believe me? Go ask other Filipino people here.
*sigh* I feel so ashamed... Why must my country be so narrow minded and stupid? Why God! Why!?
Fuck this shit. Those who possess '2D child pron' are easy prey in the first place than those bigass motherfucking rich criminals (i.e. Mike "Fat Pig" Arroyo).
Bottomline: In here, the rich always escape justice because they are above the law. PHAILippines all the way.
Ah yes, the rich people, you gotta hate them, once they are caught having loli stuff, they can just pay the government and get away with it and continue enjoying their lolis
And its not 2d lolis but the very cp that this law is trying to prevent.
My own country... T_T damn it!
I may live in America but something feels so wrong about this
As long as it's not hentai that will result in a life ban, it's all good.
A very nice island with BIG CORRUPTION. I'm in a RAGE.
F*ck!(x100)
I really friggin hate my country! Just when I'm starting to think that it's starting to develop it ends up like sh!t again. I thought this country can tell what's the differences between reality and fantasy... Just look outside the computer and into the streets, poverty and filth, that's reality. Would the government please work on that?
don't worry fafi, were all in the same boat, so to speak.
THIS IS NOTHING BUT A PAPER LAW.
a pamphlet to get higher votes..
an addon to our country's letters demanding foreign aid..
here's an example:
-=-=-==--=-=-==-=-=-=-=-
Dear big country,
We are good poeple, give us moneys..
We banned loli, Give us moneys..
Thanky you,
The great Midget.
PS: give us moneys.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--==--=-=
Err.. Whatever.. They could only implement all the laws they want but never enforce it...
So I say... WTF....
Y'know, the most common work that people own in which underage people explicitly have sex, sometimes without their consent, is the Bible. The Philippines has just made posession of a bible punishable by life imprisonment. Of course, those evangelists who go around knocking on doors are also guilty of promoting such a work, so that's illegal too.
They just made the Christian bible illegal, btw...
Lot's daughters were definitely under 18, by some accounts 12 and 14. That was Crumb's only bad, btw, since he likes big, 'natural' people in depicting them kind of meaty when in RL they certainly were lolis...
Not sure the age of Thamara and Juda... You know the anal prostitutes...
-and-
Mary (THAT Mary) was 14-16 when she had you know who...
Now, for the times, nothing unusual or pedophiliac, but in such a sweeping law... Really, in the past such laws were stopped not when they'd make "Romeo and Juliet" illegal but when the technicality could be applied to da "Good Book". "Mysterious ways" indeed!
-----but-----
In a few years when the USA stops being such an influence, I doubt they'll enforce the law. They'll go back to being a flesh pot of all ages and you'd have to shout what you are doing with a megaphone and refuse all bribe offers to get busted for it.
What I'm for, besides the "SeaSteading" option, is a more open "Tong Affiliation" thing. "The rich have the government, the common people the secret societies." Remove the menace and mystery, a lot of "Westerners" would love to become a "Paying Member" of the underworld versus just a customer and in exchange for their helping them with their comfort and freedom of deed and expression would eagerly help them 'set up shop' elsewhere. Imagine getting a "Bride" and adopting a "Son" every couple of years and helping set up a business to hire and get 'green cards'?
Given how AmeriKKKa is sputtering, we might need to form our own "Tongs" to survive and who better to help us set them up than members of real Tongs?
Just curious but which passage in the Bible does make the story of Job be classified as promoting pedophilia?
I meant it could be "Technically" classified as illegal under that law.
Shit, a life sentence for this?
Not even pedophiles and child molesters are treated this harshly...
so does this mean, people who have artbooks and mangas with loli style characters are WORSE than pedophiles and child molesters?
LOL! once again...the human race shows their wonderful reasoning skills...
better hide my artbooks before people start calling me a child molester....
LOL at "a chaotic and corrupt nation." That's "a chaotic and corrupt government" for you. I don't particularly consider myself a corrupt person...
What with his constant coverage of this anti-child porn law (whose effects, I assure you, are hardly felt here), Artefact must really have a soft spot for the Philippines.
Wha that is really fucking stupid he would have got less time if he kept real loli's locked in the basement as sex slaves.
As for the person who signed this into law I'd like see that person used for medical experiments.
This is pretty much the same as Canadian Child Pornography laws, although supposedly the works have to be proven to possess no artistic merit to be deemed pornography (and consequently, child pornography).
I heard a about a guy who was charged for having erotic stories featuring children (along with the usual real CP, and lolicon drawings). Browsing 7chan's /elit/ board is illegal for Canadians it would seem.
Well, there never was any reason to go to that shitty place and there is one less now.
Yes there is! two words: Quezon Avenue
I'm pretty sure if the defendant had the money he'd walk free. I've gotten off with alot whilst visiting the philippines, cops and officials can be bribed fairly easily there.
"The law mandates that child pornography victims be given emergency shelter or appropriate housing, counseling, free legal services, medical or psychological services, livelihood and skills training, and educational assistance. "
Imagine how many 2d Lolis will get free education!
Wha what a really stupid ass law it seems it could be abused to jail anyone.
Really the Philippines needs another insurrection and have President Arroyo publicly drawn and quartered.
I'm ammused on how many Filipinos are in SC xD (I'm one too just a lurker though)
hehe.. +1 to Pacman for Prez :D
we should have impeached her a long time ago. Damn!
Hahaha, I have already given up on my "former" country. I left because I can see no future, it's corrupt system will just go on and on. If they elect another corrupt idiot, then it's true that Filipinos are idiots too.
"If they elect another corrupt idiot, then it's true that Filipinos are idiots too."
That's because all thanks to the elite and the media which continues to manipulate the minds of the people by feeding them 'rubbish' shows, etc.
Filipinos are not idiots in the first place, but they chose to become as one.
And those who chose not to become an idiot are so pissed off that they fucking want to leave the god-forsaken land.
Amen brother, but there are sensible people there too, unfortunately they are far too few, or too young to be heard. What we need is a great social upheaval to rid ourselves of politicians, media, and the elite. We must destroy the corrupt institutions and re-educate the masses. What we need is REVOLUTION led by youth.
Thank you Arroyo. Now I wish Altair/Ezio's descendants will brutally assassinate you as well as the senates who came up with this sh**t.
Anyway as a Filipino myself, this just give me another reason NOT to comeback to that third-world country.
Now that you live somewhere in another country, you pridefully call Philippines as "that third-world country" when clearly, you, yourself admit that you're a Filipino. What kind of mindset is that?
I'll give you another reason not to come back.
Because you're a fag. And you cry about not seeing some child's private parts whether be it on anime or live.
If you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all.
Denial and butthurt is strong in this one.
hahahaha a new law??? puhleeeeeaze! they can't even make the old ones work right (even forgot some of them). it's just a whole lot of bullshit and lip service. remnants of the country's colonial past brainwashing of "wanting to make the masters happy", which in this case are the rich industrialized nations.
Don't even think about the implementation because it'll never happen why? Because the country's got a zoo for a senate, and wild monkeys for congressmen.
''We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children''
never knew this existed here or i'm just not watching enough news?
how bout focusing on issues that affect / help the economy, rather than crap like this... idiotic politicians...
I swear there's always a troll here that post on these topic's that basically says "IT'S OKAY TO BE PEDO!"
why not revolt and overthrow the midget? peaceful or bloody one it doesn't matter...,as long as it purges those you deemed unfit to rule,those who rob the governments pockets,even if you guys were ruled by nations before you have proven you can put up a fight even with the odds against you...look at the long term effect...
Yet another country overreacting to pedophilia. Loli hentai is not real; no real little girls are harmed; get over your preachy, righteous, moral thumping selves.
I think its also indicated there that ISP providers need to monitor cp activity.
We are best friends with China afterall......
This'll be very bad for Vinz.
Holy shit I live in this country and I don't even know we have this law 0.o
Punyeta tong bansa namin~
Ang daming ibang problema tulad ng bagyo at kahirapan eto ang inaatupag ng mga kumag na politiko ~!!!!
Filipino people are much stronger than law.
These law makers are just acting like their law is working but its not. i really hope all Filipinos would realize that.
Filipino people are much stronger than law.
These law makers are just acting like their law is working but its not. i really hope that all Filipinos would realize that.