Top 10 Traits of a “Carnivorous” Woman
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Nov 14, 2009 07:24 JST
- Tags: Dating, Feminism, Mass Media, Rankings, Relationships, Statistics
“Carnivorous” women, the female counterpart to “herbivorous men,” are seen by many to be eschewing traditional femininity just as effete men are confounding traditional masculinity, but just what is a carnivorous woman? A survey of Japanese men and women provides some answers as to how they perceive them.
The ranking, based on a survey of 1,156 people (63.8% of which were women), can be seen below, with participants asked what traits they associated with the image of a “carnivorous woman”:
1. She actively touches men’s bodies
2. She approaches men on her own
3. She doesn’t refuse invitations to come drinking
4. She has plenty of male friends
5. She’ll actively approach a man even if he is with his girlfriend
6. She wears thick eye makeup
7. She likes brand bags
8. She has a broad circle of friends
9. She gets every man’s number when on a group date (goukon)
10. She is honest in her mails
The survey was too circumspect to include traits such as “she has sex with a lot of men,” otherwise this might very well be number one, although having “lots of male friends” comes close…
Just what is thought to constitute a herbivorous man can be read about in the previous article on the subject.
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1, 5, 10.
don't worry about it, guyz
These poll answers are somewhat misleading. There are many more aggressive women out there using passive approaches, only in large amounts, to make the man they want dance around them like a puppy.
Sigh. I will never want to marry.
looking for a girl like this, for a 1 night stand :)
1 night stand is all you'll get, sounds more like describing sluts than 'carnivorous' women. I guess that's just society's view though; men become players, women become sluts. Not exactly fair, but eh.
Exactly my point. I'd describe carnivorous women as those who take the lead in relationship in one way or another.
Say she doesn't wear slutty clothing, acts politely but pushes her own rules over me and threatens to end relationship if I try to say something she doesn't like.
Then there are also women who treat their boyfriends like dirt if they see they will do anything for them anyways.
Those also count as carnivorous. Way more than, uh, "sluts".
the reason a man is called a player and woman is called a slut is because for a man to get sex he has to work for it, for a woman to get sex she only has to want to.
you'll never pass your genes
ok, i get all that about carnivorous woman=woman that takes the lead... threatens men.. etc. but this poll describes a slut with a broad face.Period
"for a man to get sex he has to work for it, for a woman to get sex she only has to want to"
How about you blame that your own patheticness?
So men calling women sluts is really just jealousness after all? Who would have thought...
Women that have sex for reasons like acceptance or popularity are sluts. Not the number of men she has had sex with.
Because a man can go around spreading his genes like nature intended. Hence why he becomes a stud.
A women however gives birth to a child, and hence needs to secure a man to care for the child. Hence they need a reliable mate. That's why when they sleep around, they are irresponsible sluts.
It's just nature.
"ok, i get all that about carnivorous woman=woman that takes the lead... threatens men.. etc. but this poll describes a slut with a broad face.Period"
Actually this poll pretty much describes any woman that isn't a doormat... Which is most women actually
2. I'm too shy, I want a woman to do this.
3. wat
4. most attractive women do
6. wait wat
7. imo most women like shitty expensive shit.
8. that's a good thing. it's healthy. it means she's not a bitch that no one can stand.
10. OMG SHES HONEST FUCK NO THATS A DEAL BREAKER
LOL to the last pointer! haha! what's so bad bout being honest? it's a great thing.
Trust me hun if someone really loved you they would lie out there ass just to make you feel better
that would make me feel worse if i found out they lied. a smart person would realize its a risk not worth taking
How strange "She eats meat" wasn´t included.
Yes, especially the type with cream filling.
And it's non-dairy too.
Protein milk shakes are healthy! ^^
Not that I'd ever go for 'em, but I'd gladly advertise and provide free samples for a 'select' market study.
That is implied.
Also, that kind of woman is a result of the general japanese male passivity. Girl sending love letter to guy. Girl asking boy to be her boyfriend and even offering to make him food every day if he accepts. The hell? Is it not obvious that a girl doing this would grow up into a carnivorous woman naturally?
In most of the rest of the world, male pursue women. Women just have to sit high and sort among the guys she wants to date, get laid with or become girlfriend with. That is their choice power. Ironically, they cannot choose who to marry no matter how attractive she is, that is more a man power. Perhaps it is still true in Japan as well? Nah, it looks like it but the truth is males do not want to keep a human pet and females do not want to marry a poor chap.
/sigh
#2 is definitely a good thing in anyones book.
hear hear
Yes, very yes. +1
Yea because you are a weaboo and thus too much of a pussy to approach women.
+1, grow a set you pansies, go on the offensive.
every girl likes brand bags
should be more closer to "clothing"...
I don't, I only like bags that look good.
of couse, you're a man...
broad face?
The poll is all about stereotypes.
To make your face feel small...
The only one I see as being "bad" is 6 and that's because i think of Mimi from the Drew Cary show >.>
Nice picture is nice.
ah, my kinda ladies...
those that fall into #1, 'fo 'sho...
Well.. upon seeing this article, the first thing that popped into my head was women rapists. lol! That's about as "Carnivorous" of a trait as you can get.
This /may/ be the same as #1 though.
I would be attracted to her just for #10...
I'd take a herbivorous wife any day over a carnivorous one. Marrying a carnivorous woman is a sure recipe to get cuckolded.
Too bad that the remaining herbivorous women in America are so few.
is american women anything like they show on movie? they alway seem so unbelievably bitchy?
Well at least in Southern California they're pretty damn bitchy.....The "popular" ones at least, ugh.
Get a brilliant geek gf or tech girl gf then, instead of a bitchy popularity queen. I don't know about in the US, but in Scandinavia there are lots of pretty and/or cute girls in science studies. Electrics masters degree, computer science masters degree, biology masters degree etcetera. Intelligent yet pretty girls who by their higher (and lengthy) studies demonstrate an ability to commit themselves thoroughly and achieve great results = awesome. Or maybe that's just my fetish... I don't like bitchy agressive girls nor chicks who have no lives and stick to you like a leech who has nothing else to keep her alive.
I'd rather not marry at all. and really, I don't see it as a prerequisite to be with a girl for a really long time either.
There are plenty of herbivorous women in my country (and possibily in yours as well) but I have bad news, like some herbivorous animals, they are fat and unappealing (unless you have a fatty/chubby fetish).
2. She approaches men on her own
Awesome trait.
Yeah, really... I was thinking when I read the headline "who wants a slut?" but 1, 2, 3, 10 would be nice...
Some people would classify a woman with these traits as a whore.
not always.
Says you.
Out of all the women that I've met who fit the descriptions above, none of them weren't sluts.
ya think?
Stupid people that is, imo.
Says the virgin who's only chance to get laid -ever- is a girl actually approaching him on her own. (Not that any girl would in the first place. That probably includes prostitutes.)
As an IRL Vegetarian, it's pretty much everything I hate
3. She doesn’t refuse invitations to come drinking
Come to me “Carnivorous” Woman i will let let you come to my garden.
Don't expect free diner, my bones are hasrh but we can enjoy some years along the vanishing oblivion.
i thought japanese women is the best before coming to this site T_T
Reality is a harsh bitch.
Please like the rest of the world's women are any different. It's simple really every country has nice women and bitches. Japan is not a country of nothing but whores/bitches or nothing but super shy reserved obedient women. All women are different in every country. DON'T STEREOTYPE
This basically describes most American women...in almost all regards over the last 20 years.
Looks like a east vs west culture gap to me...
Sadly, I have to agree.
There was once a time when American women were known for being the best wives in the world. Now, it's pretty much reversed. I think that Britain has got us beat when it comes to 'most undesirable wife', but we aren't far behind.
Yeah. Pretty sad world where the wife doesn't obediently stay in the kitchen all day long, isn't it?
Come now, there's nothing I wrote which would suggest I'd want a slave for a wife. I'd only expect my wife to work as hard as I do. (10 hours a day right now.)
It all depends on what living arrangement you'd like to have with your spouse. It's not likely you'll be able to raise a normal family if both parents are working 10 hours a day. (Nor if both parents stay at home) One person should take care of domestic matters while one person takes care of financial matters. If your wife makes more money than you, then go ahead and become a house husband. It's perfectly fine with me.
But a word of caution. Don't be surprised if your wife isn't attracted to you anymore to due her hypergamy. Of course there are exceptions but they do not prove the rule.
I too desire a wife who is willing to contribute to the smooth running of the family. You don't see much of these nowadays.
In my experience as an american I can say yes, they are very grabby. I mean it doesn't really matter where they will grab. It borders on molesting not that i'm complaining. Luckily in the two times i've been grabbed it's been by attractive girls, but I am fail because I didn't ask either out. Once my ass was grabbed by a brunette in short shorts in the produce section of a Wal-Mart she ran from behind me got a firm handful and kept running while giggling straight out the entrance. I was stunned with a hot girl grabbing my ass, and didn't pursue. Second was this girl named Samantha who grabbed on me all during class, gave me a nickname, invited me to her birthday party (I went but didn't talk to anyone including her), constantly asked for schoolwork help (never helped her), yet after all that I was so dense I didn't know if she liked me or not (I had low self esteem and was a total chickenshit) so I never asked her out and one day she just was bitch to me from then on. Ah she was cute and popular. I FAIL 2x
see it positively, you might not have been ready for her. she could have fucked you over badly after being together for a while. on the other hand, even a bad sexual experience has its merits. you're gonna do better the next time.
We have a saying that middle age women are like wolves and tigers.
In North America, we call the ones who hit on younger men "cougars."
Cougars are carnivorous.
Cows are herbivorous.
I hate the sankaku tops
SO A WHORE
If only every woman were Carnivorous, the world would be a perfect place.
Equality Now's women are carnivorous, are you sure?
Read the list again. Are you sure?
Well, they are old and unsuccessful, but I am pretty sure they are not only carnivorous but completely fearsome for all men.
They are the "Xenomorphs" metaphorically, a parasitic organism that reproduces by destroying others but still behaving like animals.
Well, they certainly fit the term 'carnivorous', just not the items in the list (then again, that list is kind of flawed).
Stupid metaphor of mine now I think Agnes-chan is the Alien Queen... XD
"a parasitic organism that reproduces by destroying others but still behaving like animals"
Oh fuck... Agnes Chan is JENOVA.
Feminists aren't carnivorous in the sense of what this list is talking about. In fact, they're opposite of the carnivorous women in this list since they insist men do all the work.
Again, like Aliens, they want to have a horde of drones whose only purpose is to sustain them and go kamikaze if needed... stupid AvP2 game, it brings me back memories.
# 4 is my signal to not bother trying anything with a woman, most of the time in my country that's a trait of a slutty cheater.
#5 is, well, if I had a girlfriend I would careless about that carnivorous woman.
#6 is just so "artificial", what happened to "the less the best" on makeup?
#7 sounds like a stereotype, although not surprising for a Japanese gold digger.
#9 is twice as bad as #4.
#10 surprisingly is the best, but I would like her to not limit on mails, but phone and most importantly, honest in person.
I hate when Firefox just forgets I am logged in, for the record, that post is mine...
I agree with your post.
10. She is honest in her mails
well, aren't they better, all in all ?
i don't get where that comes from. maybe honest with themselves?
What? No "only dates men earning 60k/year or more" ?
I think that is probably a normal trait.
lol :D
Broad face? By that do they mean broad as in whore or broad as in size?
This is really sad. In my country, men are all over women, so if one girl is a skank or not it is barely noticeable.
Girls get hit on the bus, supermarket and pretty much everywhere, let alone bars or clubs.
Maybe it's because women here are uncommonly good looking, and men have very little in the way of "shame". Its really fun.
I think it's because the women of japan are money hungry (these days), and perhaps the women where you are will settle for less than 60k (per year). x_x
What country are you in?
how about some insight to omnivorous men/women?
this is confusing. some of these traits are good (like being honest in texts and approaching men on her own) but what about the heavy eye makeup and approaching men who have girlfriends? seems pretty slutty to me..
i personally have no problem approaching men (i probably wouldn't be in such a long relationship as i am now if i hadn't actively pursued him), but i don't understand women who feel the need to wear layers and layers of makeup or carry huge gaudy designer bags. whatever happened to deep pockets and natural beauty? i get by putting on just a little bit of lip gloss and only carrying the bare essentials when i leave the house. honestly, some women need to learn the value of minimalism... you don't NEED the richest guy or the newest fashions to be a successful woman. LESS IS MORE!
Aretefact, your moonspeak skills fail you.
顔が広い - while the literal meaning is correct, it's actually used to describe someone who knows a lot of people, has a lot of contacts and is general socialable.
顔が立たない - the face does not stand etc lulz
Forgot about this idiom, thanks.
some of them are correct but some others are just stupid
1. She approaches men on her own
2. She is honest in her mails
3. She has plenty of male friends
4. She doesn’t refuse invitations to come drinking
5. She actively touches men’s bodies
Real top 5 in my experience with these types.
"7. She likes brand bags"
lol every asian woman ever born.
You mean most women worldwide ever born. How often do you see a girl who doesn't lust over a LV?
That would be me.
What is a LV, exactly?
So its a girl that goes around hitting on anything that moves even if already in a relationship, touches them with no shame and has many male "friends".
Well I don't see anything wrong with that if it makes them happier but they shouldn't be surprised when they are 30 and suddenly realize their chances of getting a husband are almost none and they were just used as nice one night stands through their lives.
so in other words a prostitute
Sounds a lot like fucking whores to me.
#2...
You mean women who actually attempt to be Equal to men?
Taking responsibility for their own happiness, as opposed to complaining that life never falls into their laps?
Yeah...
-Edrick
If they do not fall back to convenient excuses such as "You're a man, bear with it", I at the very least respect their non-hypocritical approach.
from the results, ppl seems to think that Carnivorous Woman=Sluts... which i do not agree
i think the answers from the survey portray alot on how women think of their more aggressive counterpart...
Carnivorous woman does not mean a woman who is a slut, I think. This I agree with you. I think a carnivorous woman is a woman who actively chases down a man in the pursuit for relationships. Kinda like how a lioness hunts down a wilderbeast.
oh boy here we go again another retarded top 10 list.
8. 顔が広い = She has a large circle of friends
=/= She has a broad face
with the exception of a few points, this list basically describes a whore/bitch. not that I have a problem with that however.
...Shit, I should watch out for my childhood friend.
Ahhhh, my type of woman, independent and an animal in the sack, and won't say no to 3somes :D
The problem would be that she might say no to a threesome with you, cuz she has "plenty" of men.
1, 2, 5 = maneater...lol...
Apart from 5 I don't see what the fuss is all about.
> 1. She actively touches men’s bodies
... I may not mind this, if that man is me.
> 2. She approaches men on her own
Seriously, how else am I supposed to know if she is interested? I'm not wasting my time on chicks that are "taken".
> 3. She doesn’t refuse invitations to come drinking
Drinking can be fun. Sure.
> 4. She has plenty of male friends
is this a problem?
> 5. She’ll actively approach a man even if he is with his girlfriend
Now that's not nice....
> 6. She wears thick eye makeup
Eww.
> 7. She likes brand bags
Lame
> 8. She has a broad circle of friends
Um, Ok. Who doesn't?
> 9. She gets every man’s number when on a group date (goukon)
Group date? Why would I waste my time with that?
> 10. She is honest in her mails
+100pts on this one, honesty is win
I don't think number 6 and number are true
This is a perfect description of my friend.
How can a carnivorous female be a female counterpart to the herbivorous of men? They'll devour them alive! speaking of which, i have most of the qualities there, so *RAWR*? XD
Japan sure is going about this in a roundabout in exploiting the traits of a 'SLUT'.
10? What that even means? How being honest is bad? Did honest became a pejorative term in Japan?
Japanese Society is full of 'polite lie' bullshit. I guess being honest is the same as rude. Then again, in the USA there is the same bullshit done.
I am a “Carnivorous” woman. I am independent and not afraid of having fun. Sometimes this scares many insecure men.
Why the hell does so many of you think women just need to "want" having sex to get it? Where did you get the idea that all men are ideal for sex?
It is hard to be a independent woman who just want to find a good lover and playmate nowadays. Women are getting stronger, but men of today are getting more and more weak/fat/lazy/insecure.
Like many of you here, this reminds me of a cackling hens house. I get so pissed off.
With all these people saying things like this, they can't all be wrong can they?
If all idiots of this world assemble in one place to spout their nonsense in unity, they don't magically stop being idiots.
If you are independent, can you please explain why you need a man?
You ever heard of sex friends? Battery-powered toys are nice and all, but sometimes you just want the real thing. I don't see what this has to do with being independent or not.
Feel free to have as many sexual relations as you want with as many men as you want. Just be aware that after your youthful looks fade no sane man (unless he's your husband) will want to be your 'sex friend'. This will occur somewhere around 35. The average lifespan of women in America is 79 years. That's over four decades of near solitude from sexual relationships with men. I wish you the best of luck if you think you can beat the statistics.
Besides, I always thought independent women needed men like a fish needs a bicycle. But, if you need a man just for sex, so long as you have no intentions of becoming married in the future all the more power to you.
I just want to add that I am not the same femanon as the original poster.
I might end up falling seriously in love with someone in the future, I never said that won't happen. But even if I decide to live with a man for the rest of my life, as long as I have my own steady source of income, I will stay independent. Standing by each other in times of trouble or even simple things like sharing household chores are acts of mutual commitment, not one partner depending on the other. I don't see your point.
The thought that men are of zero interest to independent women is absurd. Not all of us are purely lesbian. Or maybe 'independent woman' is synonymous to 'lesbian' for you. If so, that's pretty retarded.
Just when you thought you were safe from the top tens.
I know a girl with all of that descrptions
where is this picture from???
I can accept everything on that list except for the eye makeup.
So~ that's why I always get invited by my girl friends (just plain friend) to drink with them!
sucks doesn't it?
i'd rather spend my time in my room and
play computer for 8 hrs.! d(>_<)b
these traits sound like the description of a stereotyped bimbo