Readers of eroge rag Dengeki G’s Magazine have ranked their favourite characters, but it seems even hardened visual novel fans cannot resist the charms of K-ON!…
Dengeki readers are clearly a class apart from moe-blob loving Megami readers (possibly a lower class, considering the almost uninterrupted list of generic schoolgirls they present us with), although the K-ON! girls are still conspicuously incongruous amongst all these eroge heroines…
For it to place amongst a list otherwise made up exclusively of eroge may tell us something about the fanbase, or it may in fact be a less than subtle hint to KyoAni...
You guys do realize that he said it was conspicuously incongruous that they were on the list with all the eroge people. That means that's kinda weird (and that k-on ISN'T an eroge) so he's not taking shots at k-on unless you think it is an eroge.
It is not an eroge because it doesn't contain any hentai, ecchi content/scenes, or even any fan service(except one scene I think). It is a visual novel, but not an eroge. And while it is a popular misunderstanding among those who know little about the genre, not all visual novels are eroge. There are plenty others that aren't.
Yes, and that is because they don't know better, and/or because it sells. I don't care what how many otaku use the term, or if developers misuse it and call visual novels eroge, it's still a fact that they aren't, and Clannad isn't an eroge either. You can look the term up on Wikipedia if you want, and you'l see.
hoh. otaku know full well how to use the term. There is just no double standard that seems to be so misunderstood in the west. In the english vn community, it seems that eroge equates directly to game with ero content, while everything else is vn, no? This makes little sense. Take LB for example. Released all ages-->LBEX 18+. Does this mean LB is not an eroge while LBEX is? LBEX was the exact same as LB with exception of ero and new routes. What about all the all ages console ports of various eroges? Or even look at minori's eden. I still consider it an eroge, with or without the 18+ mosaic patch, because for all intents it is. I'm sure most eroge otaku agree. For the most part, 18+ and all ages eroge are the exact same, save for hardcore eroge, such as atelier kaguya stuff,norn stuff,etc. eroge more refers to the gameplay/format than to ero content. eroge usually contains ero, but it isn't a must.
There are these things called dictionaries. Read them.
bishoujo games, eroge, galge, visual novels, etc etc.
They all have their own meanings and etymology. Use overlaps just like tags because they contain similar but differing aspects (whether they be thematic/content, purpose, target audience, etc etc).
That being said. The readers of Dengeki G's are by the majority GALGE players. It's about the GIRLS not the ero (ever wonder what the G stands for?). The reason why k-on is in the list, is because Dengeki G's caters across the board Anime, Games and Manga.
Long story short. The list was never called 'Top 10 Eroge caracters'. It's the same old character (medium unspecified) ranking list they have in their magazine every month (voted by the readers) which hardly ever changes.
There are these things called eroge. Play them. :3. There is a difference in reading wiki entries of bishoujo games, eroge, galge, visual novels, etc etc. and actually playing them. What is in the dictionary as a definition doesn't always match up with its actual usage. And yes the meanings overlap, but the english vn community needs to stick with 1 term. Like visual novel. That's fine. None of this switching back and forth of terms because a dictionary/wiki entry said so. Companies, eroge vets, vendors, don't differentiate. It is eroge. They always clump all ages and 18+ versions of eroge together, because they are eroge. Check getchu and the like. The confusion over eroge in the west is quite amusing.
And yes, you are correct about the list being a character popularity contest.
Huh I feel like lucky star will outlast K-ON, and I think Lucky Star runs on its own merit greater then just moe. I feel the psychology of Konata runs the show. The way her mind works around her friends is very similar to the mentality I had around my friends back when I was in highschool. I feel that the series offers a lot more to otaku then moe and I hope and believe that It will keep its mark in anime history, and not be judged on its moetasticness alone.
To be honest, despite being a fan of K-on!, don't ever compare it with Lucky Star. Lucky Star is one of the fewest anime that actually made me realize that watching random stuffs that i did in RL animated is extremely hilarious in a priceless way..
So in other words, fans of K-on just spam their favourite characters everywhere if there is at least some kind of competition, fitted the subject or not... That's actually pretty sad.
I agree! If you're going to make a competition at least stick to your own 'guidelines'. Entering Anime/manga characters which do not even appear in a VN in a VN contest is just retarded...
I at first did not understand why Nagisa-chan placed until I had a nerd-flip--Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life does for Tomoyo what CLANNAD After Story does for Nagisa.
Considering both have a base in Clannad itself, now I get it...
The only explanation for K-ON is the fanservice images--BDSM notwithstanding.
Well, you think wrong, Anon 07.29. It isn't. Even the first original PC version doesn't contain any eroge what so ever, and barely even any fan service. It's an all ages game. Go and read about it on Wiki, and you'l see. And at that note, as Ayu is suggesting without saying it directly, the Clannad characters(in this case Nagisa),shouldn't even be on the list.
Rance is the main character in the game series made by AliceSoft. I only played Sengoku Rance, and.. It's a superb.
He's a rapist, abuser, evil, crazy for women, but super strong~ The best main character amongst all eroge I have played.
Since when Furukawa Nagisa and K-On! is in eroge?? Doujinshi game shouldn't count here!
The voters are all losers...
The next one is a remake of Rance 2, which is awesome. I was a bit worried they would not make another for 6 years like between Kichiku Rance and Rance 5D.
Otherwise Uesugi Kenshin dethroned Saber back then.
If by "mad" you meant "Still buying like crazy", yeah, they're "mad". Frankly, for such an "epic-fail anime who hitted down the barrel", the sales were still quite compelling for the "Endless Eight" arc.
I'd love to see a Little Busters anime too, but I don't know, I don't want to see it get fucked up by bad episode planning and timing like they did with Clannad. Plus I'm pretty sure the usual 24 episodes a popular series gets will be enough to cover all of the stories in Little Busters AND the Refrain. Not to mention Saya.
Sure, they might have prolonged that some parts...
"BUT" what epicness could describe/be on par with the scene of After Story ep 18.
Surely I have seen very few of these real gems that shine like rhinestone. You think they couldn't pull that part with so much emotion but then it smacks you right in the face.
GHS, don't you fucking dare dissing the Clannad and Clannad After Story anime's. They were fantastic, and really faithful to the game. Not to mention real tear-jerkers.
Who said I'm dissing Clannad? It's just that in the original Clannad they couldn't time the character stories they ended up having to remove one character story altogether (Kyou)and cut another one's (Tomoyo's) short. To make ends meet they had that awful tennis court scene where Tomoya rejected all the other heroines at once for Nagisa. I'd rather have Little Busters saved from this kind of butchery.
doubt it. anime was worth watching.
the strips were halarious.
however i see the fanbase diversity is actually not so different, just partially, umm wtf am i talking about.. brain fart
need more 2d
Lol, are you serious? Do you even know how to use the internet? They are shit easy to find pretty much everywhere. For starters, try using the "Channel" on this site. You'l probably find most if not all of them there anyway.
Yeah, I think it's probably worth mentioning for the unaware that this isn't some special survey -- it appears every month in Dengeki G's, and is just a generic "favourite heroine" poll. Doesn't have to be from any particular type of property. (And the fans of certain franchises tend to rally to keep their favourite heroines in the rankings, so it's probably not exactly to be trusted. That and franchises like Da Capo and Little Busters have had manga run in the magazine, so they're perennial favourites among readers.)
Yes, please. I'm saddened by the fact that these ignorant fools don't vote for my husbando. Mio can't even be mentioned in the same sentence with epic level characters like Jun! D:
If only I could find a place near me that sold the Dengeki Hime magazine. I only have like one issue of it and I bought that at a convention. I want to be able to just go buy a magazine in update myself on the latest eroge instead of having to hunt the internet for information. Well least I can still go buy the Dengeki G's... (the November issue came with this awesome mini alarm clock of Saya ^^. If only I knew what battery size it uses...)
For what it's worth, that mini alarm clock included in Dengeki G's comes with a battery, but I want to say it's probably a CR1025. The clock certainly is a pretty unique pack-in, anyway. :)
And yeah, even on the Internet, Dengeki Hime is a bit of a pain to collect... but well worth it to keep track of what's out there.
I can't wait for K-On to die. I love Mio to death, but eating cake and being moe can only get you so far. Sometimes I wonder what 2ch would do if they found out so many overseas fans aren't so widely impressed with their perfect show.
Sankaku, are you posting these fucked up lists just to piss us off. Or are you trying to make us laugh at the stupidity of the human race, I mean that Lolita Channel shit hardly counts as an eroge.
When I first saw the Nagisa picture, the only thing, which came to my mind was: "Since when is she using a vibrator?", but on second look:" Aww, just a msic player."
You're not the most knowledgable about eroge I figure but personal opinions are personal. and polls are usually flavor of the month. we need in-depth research and review.
Actually Komaki Manaka is more popular than you think. She is even getting her own after story AVG called まななつ~委員長と特別な一日~. Best of all it's in 3D. Personally I also like "委員長"
, in fact she was the first path I played on ToHeart2.
You are not alone for loving Kudrayavka. If Kud exists in real life, mark my words, the first thing I do when I see her is to do the Ryuugu Rena thing.
I think this officially secures K-On's position as "Most Overrated Anime Ever Made". I mean, fuck, people are getting so blinded by these overrated moeblobs that they can't even answer the poll properly without stopping to drool over their "waifu". Sad, so fucking sad.
>I think this officially secures K-On's position as "Most Overrated Anime Ever Made"[...].
Your point doesn't make any sense. They're not voting for shows, they're voting for CHARACTERS. Even if the show sucks (or so you think), that doesn't make the characters suck (or so they think).
and in before "crappy shows can't have good characters" : Lucky Star. Characters are awesome, but despite being a Lucky Star fanboy myself I can name many shows of this kind waaaaaaaay funnier than it (and K-on is one of them, actually)
again, you're talking about overrated show when K-on is all about its characters. Unless you're implying that Mio, Yui, Ritsu, Mugi and ultimately moe Azunyan are overrated characters.
As for the show itself (and the ones you mentionned), you need to realize someday that some people has given up on robot/ninja/fighting/(supposedly) "OMFG AWESOME PLOT" anime, and that they prefer having nice time watching soothing slice-of-life shows with light humor and service (and very light plot sometimes, but rarely)
well, when you'll be in your 20's you'll eventually get it
Just go watch Naruto, which is still running. You'l get more than enough ninja and fighting, and a really deep, complicated plot(before you protest, make sure you watch far out in the series. the story gets quite epic towards the end of Shippuuden).
Yea, but half of the episodes are still filler. And they butchered the plot from the manga. Plus, not much development, Characters seem way too superficial. It also creates a bad image of anime as a whole, which is probrately Naruto's greatest impact
And besides, nowadays, no one gives a flying fuck about 'Plot'. Ever since the advent of Eva and Tenchi Muyo, all anime's focused on are the characters. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just that plot-centric anime died out along with Yamato and Dragonball and all that good old shit.
Lol, you do realize that with the fillers in part 1 of Naruto from 135 and out to 220, you can simply just NOT watch them right? ;D And you must really be on crack when you say there's no development, especially in terms of the characters. Take Naruto himself for instance. Naruto doesn't create a bad image of anime as a whole, it's one of the best series out there. And if you spent any time reading the post on this forum in response to a whole lot of threads, especially ones concerning moe blob, you'd know there are actually quite ALOT of people that care about plot. That the japanese anime industry has started to care less about it though is a different story, though I dare say it is not a good development. I'd rather be a Narutard than an idiot, like you. You fail hard. So kindly go hide under some rock where you don't bother the rest of us, loser. ;-)
Um, yeeee...you see, the thing is, while Rena and Rika are awesome characters, the drawings in the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni visual novel are rather bad, and the creators themselves even said so, which is why they have dubbed it a "Sound Novel" rather than a "Visual Novel". as the focus is more on sound. And as you know, with the lack of eye-candy, female characters will not get the fame and attention they deserve. It's sad, but true. I bet Rena and Rika got alot more popular after the anime and manga adaptions came out.
If you really want to get technical, Jun was a heroine in Happiness! Re:Lucks (could become female if the player wanted him to).
Jun managed to get into Saimoe due do a similar technicality regarding the single-episode Happiness! OVA, so I don't see why Jun can't be included in Dengeki's poll.
I think Koihime Musuo character are pretty hot. Although a lot of my favorite H-game are based on the story and the character arts I guess ends up a bit generic. Although the ploy itself remedy the problem.
My view and oppinion is somewhere in between the 3 of you. I love Saber, and think she deserves to be on the list, but I love Rin-chama alot more. She's not just my favourite visual novel character, she's my favourite female character in anime, manga, visual novels etc, period. My waifu! <3
Agreed about fails for having characters that aren't even in eroge, but disagreed about fails for having 3 Key characters. Key rules, and so do their visual novels, and characters. Still, as Clannad is not an eroge, Nagisa should not be on this list. If it wasn't for that barrier though, I would replace Nagisa for Kyou any time. Also, Anon 12:29, I agree on the lack of SHUFFLE. Shigure Asa should be there.
I am beginning to think that Kyoani are just sending in thousands of Yui and Mio votes every single time they see any character-related polls. Maybe they've been at it since Hurahi. Of course, it wouldn't work if their shows weren't any good to begin with, but this seems unnatural... Probably just paranoia, though.
Ye, what the Anon above me said. Anon 12:55, what are you, retarded? When the hell did Saber and Nagisa become lolis? And a bunch of the other characters as well. Stupid braindead moron. Go research your otaku terms a little better before you use them.
I love Mio as much as you guys do but the anime is over, finito dammit. If there's something that Haruhi taught me is that no anime should be put in a pedestal. Just...let...it die peacefully.
It's not even a game. And due to the overexplotation. I'm starting to seriously hate K-ON.
Really, Mio is for otaku as Sephiroth and Cloud are for Square-Enix. LEAVE THEM ALONE!!
I aprove of everyone else on the list. Though I would have wished to see a yandere there.
You guys must be a pretty dumb fucks to compare K-On with Naruto. They are nothing alike, and Naruto is a fuckin' incredible show! Don't you dare insult it! EVER!
One thousand times this! I still wonder after all this time how Saber, with her little to no appeal of any kind, beats Arcueid in these areas >_>
List is bullshit in too many reasons to count anyway. I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a K-on eroge/VN type game hanging around somewhere like there is for Lucky Star and Haruhi, but that would give no excuse for this bullshit.
Saber has little to no appeal of any kind? You fail hard, you moron. I like Arcueid, but don't you dis my Saber-chan. Rin-chama beats both of them though.
Visual Arts isn't really a company per se, but is kind of like a circle made up of three companies. Key, RAM, and one other one I think. Of course, Key largely overshadows both of the other two so you don't hear much of them. Hell, RAM had a several years long hiatus and only recently released another game from them called 5. I guess the Visual Arts shares labour and stuff, since Maeda Jun helped work on the soundtrack for 5 even though he's usually associated with Key. On a side note, 5 isn't too bad. It's the only game that 'almost' turned me into a siscon.
Scratch that about there being just 3 companies. I did some research (the japanese wiki) and turns out a LOT of companies make up Visual Arts. But Key is still pretty much one of it's biggest names.
Oh well, guess it's like waiting for a $1 million lottery to appear in front of me to expect and hope that Sui (Komorebi), Shiori and Yukiko (11Eyes) to be on that list... :(
I liek Yui and Mio as much as the next guy, but K-ON was a manga, then an anime. I've never seen a K-ON visual novel. Plus, those two took spots from Kyou and Tomoyo. Inconceivable!!
Nin on "What kind of jobs do you guys have?" My current school doesn't allow students to have jobs. I'm quite happy about that because I've been afraid of working in a largely social en...
So K-on! is an eroge now?
Way to troll, KyoAni.
For it to place amongst a list otherwise made up exclusively of eroge may tell us something about the fanbase, or it may in fact be a less than subtle hint to KyoAni...
meh, too much k-on in that list either way, again they fell for moe characters
I can't believe K-On! beat Tamaki... Nooo.
this list is lol.
eroge? K-On?
come on, Tamaki is way better.
You guys do realize that he said it was conspicuously incongruous that they were on the list with all the eroge people. That means that's kinda weird (and that k-on ISN'T an eroge) so he's not taking shots at k-on unless you think it is an eroge.
Tamaki ranking #9 is a travesty, Kyou missing form the list is a fucking tragedy.
Actually, since Clannad isn't an eroge, Kyou shouldn't be on the list, and neither should Nagisa. Same goes for the K-on! girls. It is indeed weird.
wait, clannad is not an eroge?
oh, clannad is the life itself, not eroge..
It is not an eroge because it doesn't contain any hentai, ecchi content/scenes, or even any fan service(except one scene I think). It is a visual novel, but not an eroge. And while it is a popular misunderstanding among those who know little about the genre, not all visual novels are eroge. There are plenty others that aren't.
Pretty much all vn, galge, hgame, etc are referred to as eroge in japan, regardless of ero content.
Yes, and that is because they don't know better, and/or because it sells. I don't care what how many otaku use the term, or if developers misuse it and call visual novels eroge, it's still a fact that they aren't, and Clannad isn't an eroge either. You can look the term up on Wikipedia if you want, and you'l see.
sorry,made a typo.correction:*I don't care what how many otaku MISuse the term*
Damn, I must be tired. What I meant was that not ALL visual novels are eroge, even if most are, and Clannad isn't one of them.
hoh. otaku know full well how to use the term. There is just no double standard that seems to be so misunderstood in the west. In the english vn community, it seems that eroge equates directly to game with ero content, while everything else is vn, no? This makes little sense. Take LB for example. Released all ages-->LBEX 18+. Does this mean LB is not an eroge while LBEX is? LBEX was the exact same as LB with exception of ero and new routes. What about all the all ages console ports of various eroges? Or even look at minori's eden. I still consider it an eroge, with or without the 18+ mosaic patch, because for all intents it is. I'm sure most eroge otaku agree. For the most part, 18+ and all ages eroge are the exact same, save for hardcore eroge, such as atelier kaguya stuff,norn stuff,etc. eroge more refers to the gameplay/format than to ero content. eroge usually contains ero, but it isn't a must.
There are these things called dictionaries. Read them.
bishoujo games, eroge, galge, visual novels, etc etc.
They all have their own meanings and etymology. Use overlaps just like tags because they contain similar but differing aspects (whether they be thematic/content, purpose, target audience, etc etc).
That being said. The readers of Dengeki G's are by the majority GALGE players. It's about the GIRLS not the ero (ever wonder what the G stands for?). The reason why k-on is in the list, is because Dengeki G's caters across the board Anime, Games and Manga.
Long story short. The list was never called 'Top 10 Eroge caracters'. It's the same old character (medium unspecified) ranking list they have in their magazine every month (voted by the readers) which hardly ever changes.
There are these things called eroge. Play them. :3. There is a difference in reading wiki entries of bishoujo games, eroge, galge, visual novels, etc etc. and actually playing them. What is in the dictionary as a definition doesn't always match up with its actual usage. And yes the meanings overlap, but the english vn community needs to stick with 1 term. Like visual novel. That's fine. None of this switching back and forth of terms because a dictionary/wiki entry said so. Companies, eroge vets, vendors, don't differentiate. It is eroge. They always clump all ages and 18+ versions of eroge together, because they are eroge. Check getchu and the like. The confusion over eroge in the west is quite amusing.
And yes, you are correct about the list being a character popularity contest.
why would they even be accepted entries if K-ON is not even a Visual Novel to begin with
K-ON is short term celeb. Next year there will be another moe blob anime and that will gain a couple of spots with its freshness instead of K-ON.
It's this year's lucky star.
Fucking truth!
It is Lucky Star 2.0. In before K-On zealots going -1 on all negative comments relating to their moeblob religion animu.
Huh I feel like lucky star will outlast K-ON, and I think Lucky Star runs on its own merit greater then just moe. I feel the psychology of Konata runs the show. The way her mind works around her friends is very similar to the mentality I had around my friends back when I was in highschool. I feel that the series offers a lot more to otaku then moe and I hope and believe that It will keep its mark in anime history, and not be judged on its moetasticness alone.
It's not lucky star 2.0, its not as funny or memorable as lucky star, on the other hand I appreciate the hot girls for a change.
Lucky Star was funny? I think I missed that memo. I tried to watch Lucky Star and found it intolerably boring, same with K-UNko!
Oddly enough, even though I couldn't stand watching Lucky Star, I still like the fandom that surrounds it (mainly Nico MADs).
To be honest, despite being a fan of K-on!, don't ever compare it with Lucky Star. Lucky Star is one of the fewest anime that actually made me realize that watching random stuffs that i did in RL animated is extremely hilarious in a priceless way..
So in other words, fans of K-on just spam their favourite characters everywhere if there is at least some kind of competition, fitted the subject or not... That's actually pretty sad.
I agree! If you're going to make a competition at least stick to your own 'guidelines'. Entering Anime/manga characters which do not even appear in a VN in a VN contest is just retarded...
Where is Tohsaka Rin T_T
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was moe and eroge mutually exclusive?
But right, there are too many K-ON! whores.
Actually, Clannad isn't a eroge too since it is for all ages...
*snif*
Don't remind me.
I think Clannad, first on PC, is an eroge.
It was.
No it's not. But Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life is.
I at first did not understand why Nagisa-chan placed until I had a nerd-flip--Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life does for Tomoyo what CLANNAD After Story does for Nagisa.
Considering both have a base in Clannad itself, now I get it...
The only explanation for K-ON is the fanservice images--BDSM notwithstanding.
clannad = just a normal visual novel ..its not an eroge ..but tomoyo after is
So, why did they put Nagisa up there if the original Clannad wasn't an eroge?
They should've put Tomoyo up there instead, IMHO.
Tomoyo is not there because she's not popular enough.
Well, you think wrong, Anon 07.29. It isn't. Even the first original PC version doesn't contain any eroge what so ever, and barely even any fan service. It's an all ages game. Go and read about it on Wiki, and you'l see. And at that note, as Ayu is suggesting without saying it directly, the Clannad characters(in this case Nagisa),shouldn't even be on the list.
They banned Rance from the competition, but they let in K-on and Clannad?
What faggotry is this!
who's rance?
Die
Rance is the main character in the game series made by AliceSoft. I only played Sengoku Rance, and.. It's a superb.
He's a rapist, abuser, evil, crazy for women, but super strong~ The best main character amongst all eroge I have played.
Since when Furukawa Nagisa and K-On! is in eroge?? Doujinshi game shouldn't count here!
The voters are all losers...
Rance is only the most awesome male eroge lead of all time!! The women in the Rance series are also hot as hell. Were they all banned? WHY!!!
Probably since Sengoku Rance is 3 years old.
The next one is a remake of Rance 2, which is awesome. I was a bit worried they would not make another for 6 years like between Kichiku Rance and Rance 5D.
Otherwise Uesugi Kenshin dethroned Saber back then.
sengoku rance has an english translation i think i will look into this :D
Rance is trash BUT that makes the series incredible .
Tamaki is only #9? No wonder the race is dying off.
Second that, love that characters wry humor and flat out sex appeal.
Sadly there hasn't been many doujinshi on about her...
I never really watched much of To Heart 2 but I got on how Tamaki had amazing sex appeal which I did very much :3
K-On is just a phase. It'll be gone soon.
That's what we said about Haruhi...
and look where it is now. at the bottom of the barrel.
Only because everybody got mad at KyoAni for the endless Endless Eights.
If by "mad" you meant "Still buying like crazy", yeah, they're "mad". Frankly, for such an "epic-fail anime who hitted down the barrel", the sales were still quite compelling for the "Endless Eight" arc.
Bet we'll be expecting more from where that came from. :)
Proving once again that Japanese otaku's sense of proportion is (excuse the pun) endless.
Well at least they've effectively killed that one off. :/
I want Little Busters anime now.
K-ON being in the top ten of this list and beating other characters is just wrong.
Seconded.
thirded.
Little Busters will bring key back into the spotlight.
Cheers;
Niker
Fourthed. K-On isn't supposed to be here anyway...
I'd love to see a Little Busters anime too, but I don't know, I don't want to see it get fucked up by bad episode planning and timing like they did with Clannad. Plus I'm pretty sure the usual 24 episodes a popular series gets will be enough to cover all of the stories in Little Busters AND the Refrain. Not to mention Saya.
Sure, they might have prolonged that some parts...
"BUT" what epicness could describe/be on par with the scene of After Story ep 18.
Surely I have seen very few of these real gems that shine like rhinestone. You think they couldn't pull that part with so much emotion but then it smacks you right in the face.
GHS, don't you fucking dare dissing the Clannad and Clannad After Story anime's. They were fantastic, and really faithful to the game. Not to mention real tear-jerkers.
Who said I'm dissing Clannad? It's just that in the original Clannad they couldn't time the character stories they ended up having to remove one character story altogether (Kyou)and cut another one's (Tomoyo's) short. To make ends meet they had that awful tennis court scene where Tomoya rejected all the other heroines at once for Nagisa. I'd rather have Little Busters saved from this kind of butchery.
very true. Play clannad and lb and then come back. Clannad anime was just... Well not that lb was that great either but...Kudo~~~~
A planetarian is fine too.
And... hey, look, a Mio is in the list! Awesome!!
ughhh.. I like planetarian very much but let's face it those thing aren't eroge... Still..
What the hell is K-ON! and Clannad doing in that list? Little Busters! is an eroge but the other two... TOTALLY NOT.
doubt it. anime was worth watching.
the strips were halarious.
however i see the fanbase diversity is actually not so different, just partially, umm wtf am i talking about.. brain fart
need more 2d
kyoani should just make k-on into an eroge
With a female lead protagonist? I can see that.
*Miroku74 drools imagining the yurilicious CG sets...*
Don't you mean Visual Novel? Clannad is not an eroge.
True...but I think they also include doujins, fanart, etc of the characters...
I would expect to see Asuka and Rei up there if that's the case.
Huh... you'd think a list of the Top 10 Eroge characters would be comprised entirely of Eroge characters...
I mean, it's not like I expected to see any characters from my favorites here (Words Worth, Viper series, Utawarerumono), but even so...
Urushihara's rendition of Saber <3
its not bad at all, but i'd prefer the tony version. its GOD-LIKE!
Dam right! Well done :3 I wish I could find the CG Scenes from the game itself, haven't found them anywhere :(
Lol, are you serious? Do you even know how to use the internet? They are shit easy to find pretty much everywhere. For starters, try using the "Channel" on this site. You'l probably find most if not all of them there anyway.
I KNEW I recognized that style of pic. So he's the one that did it. Oh that makes me happy in my manly area.
Otome ranked in that ranking for like two years already.
Also, it's not limited to eroge
Yeah, I think it's probably worth mentioning for the unaware that this isn't some special survey -- it appears every month in Dengeki G's, and is just a generic "favourite heroine" poll. Doesn't have to be from any particular type of property. (And the fans of certain franchises tend to rally to keep their favourite heroines in the rankings, so it's probably not exactly to be trusted. That and franchises like Da Capo and Little Busters have had manga run in the magazine, so they're perennial favourites among readers.)
Now I just need to find a ranking which Jun is on top of...
I don't think Dengeki readers will really be interested in trap rankings...
Yes, please. I'm saddened by the fact that these ignorant fools don't vote for my husbando. Mio can't even be mentioned in the same sentence with epic level characters like Jun! D:
If only I could find a place near me that sold the Dengeki Hime magazine. I only have like one issue of it and I bought that at a convention. I want to be able to just go buy a magazine in update myself on the latest eroge instead of having to hunt the internet for information. Well least I can still go buy the Dengeki G's... (the November issue came with this awesome mini alarm clock of Saya ^^. If only I knew what battery size it uses...)
For what it's worth, that mini alarm clock included in Dengeki G's comes with a battery, but I want to say it's probably a CR1025. The clock certainly is a pretty unique pack-in, anyway. :)
And yeah, even on the Internet, Dengeki Hime is a bit of a pain to collect... but well worth it to keep track of what's out there.
What, it came with a battery!? How come mine didn't!? Ah well, thanks for the battery data though. Least I have something to look for now.
I can't wait for K-On to die. I love Mio to death, but eating cake and being moe can only get you so far. Sometimes I wonder what 2ch would do if they found out so many overseas fans aren't so widely impressed with their perfect show.
Also no Rin on this list saddens me.
I too am saddened by lack of Rin. T_T
Thirded. I miss Rin. If you've played the Vn you'l know she's more awesome than Saber.
saya ftw
Tama nee deserves a lot better. Damn ⑨ ⑪'s.
Mio with purple hair =Not Mio ( >'_'>)
k-on... eroge... eh, what? do i have missed something?
Yes, so have I
Where's Saya from Saya no Uta? T_T
Sorry, no guro monster lolis allowed.
SABEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!
No,no,no. It's SAIBAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Saya deserves a spot ;w;
Depends on which Saya you're talking about. There are actually lots of Sayas.
Sankaku, are you posting these fucked up lists just to piss us off. Or are you trying to make us laugh at the stupidity of the human race, I mean that Lolita Channel shit hardly counts as an eroge.
I'm already laughing at the above comment
i think that Artefact just wanted to post another Saber pic...
no fault there
=P
When I first saw the Nagisa picture, the only thing, which came to my mind was: "Since when is she using a vibrator?", but on second look:" Aww, just a msic player."
I thought that too, until the (un)dramatic reveal. T_T
The list looks like a good representation to me. Feena is still in it and gotta love Otome Asakura.
WHERE'S RANCE???????
Obviously below number ten
I hope K-On's popularity doesn't last as much as Haruhi's did, cause it got annoying already.
i've never understood why people like it that much
Amen.
Chrouya here. I totally agree about Kudo being 1st.
Kudryavka is the best
わふー!
筋肉~!筋肉~!
わふー!
lol wut at k-on. I wish nagisa was higher on the list. It's still good that she's there.
Holy crap, Kudryavka got 1st? Very suprising to myself...
My list...
1st - Kudryavka
2nd - Konomi (Toheart2)
3rd - Komaki (Toheart2)
You're not the most knowledgable about eroge I figure but personal opinions are personal. and polls are usually flavor of the month. we need in-depth research and review.
Yea I admit I haven't played much eroges :P
Actually Komaki Manaka is more popular than you think. She is even getting her own after story AVG called まななつ~委員長と特別な一日~. Best of all it's in 3D. Personally I also like "委員長"
, in fact she was the first path I played on ToHeart2.
You are not alone for loving Kudrayavka. If Kud exists in real life, mark my words, the first thing I do when I see her is to do the Ryuugu Rena thing.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
Where the hell is Higetsu Shino or Higetsu Ayumi from Ringetsu? Not to mention Kousaka Tamaki being 9th?
I have not seen K-On! but every pic of Yui I see reminds me of Minori Kushieda.
they are quite the polar opposites, minorin is energetic, Yui is lazy
I think this officially secures K-On's position as "Most Overrated Anime Ever Made". I mean, fuck, people are getting so blinded by these overrated moeblobs that they can't even answer the poll properly without stopping to drool over their "waifu". Sad, so fucking sad.
Well as messed up as it is....at least Saber is on the list...if shes there im happy.
Amen. Though I miss Rin...
>I think this officially secures K-On's position as "Most Overrated Anime Ever Made"[...].
Your point doesn't make any sense. They're not voting for shows, they're voting for CHARACTERS. Even if the show sucks (or so you think), that doesn't make the characters suck (or so they think).
and in before "crappy shows can't have good characters" : Lucky Star. Characters are awesome, but despite being a Lucky Star fanboy myself I can name many shows of this kind waaaaaaaay funnier than it (and K-on is one of them, actually)
K-ON is one of the many overrated shit this decade. That, and along with Haruhi, Lucky Star, Bakemono, and whatever other moe show that was famous.
again, you're talking about overrated show when K-on is all about its characters. Unless you're implying that Mio, Yui, Ritsu, Mugi and ultimately moe Azunyan are overrated characters.
As for the show itself (and the ones you mentionned), you need to realize someday that some people has given up on robot/ninja/fighting/(supposedly) "OMFG AWESOME PLOT" anime, and that they prefer having nice time watching soothing slice-of-life shows with light humor and service (and very light plot sometimes, but rarely)
well, when you'll be in your 20's you'll eventually get it
Just go watch Naruto, which is still running. You'l get more than enough ninja and fighting, and a really deep, complicated plot(before you protest, make sure you watch far out in the series. the story gets quite epic towards the end of Shippuuden).
Yea, but half of the episodes are still filler. And they butchered the plot from the manga. Plus, not much development, Characters seem way too superficial. It also creates a bad image of anime as a whole, which is probrately Naruto's greatest impact
And besides, nowadays, no one gives a flying fuck about 'Plot'. Ever since the advent of Eva and Tenchi Muyo, all anime's focused on are the characters. Not that that's a bad thing. It's just that plot-centric anime died out along with Yamato and Dragonball and all that good old shit.
In other words, BURN IN HELL, FUCKING NARUTARD
Lol, you do realize that with the fillers in part 1 of Naruto from 135 and out to 220, you can simply just NOT watch them right? ;D And you must really be on crack when you say there's no development, especially in terms of the characters. Take Naruto himself for instance. Naruto doesn't create a bad image of anime as a whole, it's one of the best series out there. And if you spent any time reading the post on this forum in response to a whole lot of threads, especially ones concerning moe blob, you'd know there are actually quite ALOT of people that care about plot. That the japanese anime industry has started to care less about it though is a different story, though I dare say it is not a good development. I'd rather be a Narutard than an idiot, like you. You fail hard. So kindly go hide under some rock where you don't bother the rest of us, loser. ;-)
I made a typo. It should be "if you spent any time reading the *posts* on this forum".
What are K-ON! characters doing on an eroge character list?
Also if this list includes visual novels in general and not just eroge, a lack of either Rena Ryuugu or Rika Furude saddens me.
Um, yeeee...you see, the thing is, while Rena and Rika are awesome characters, the drawings in the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni visual novel are rather bad, and the creators themselves even said so, which is why they have dubbed it a "Sound Novel" rather than a "Visual Novel". as the focus is more on sound. And as you know, with the lack of eye-candy, female characters will not get the fame and attention they deserve. It's sad, but true. I bet Rena and Rika got alot more popular after the anime and manga adaptions came out.
I like K-ON a lot less because of this poll.
Kudo is adorable, but I kinda expected someone else with more characters for 1st place.
And where is nice boat?
the image used for Saber seems wrongly-proportioned ._.
Well, I hope you should understand by now that not all girls can have a well-proportioned and sexy body as you?
It's an idealized art drawn for the sole purpose to appeal. Of course it should be well-proportioned.
lol, why thank you XD hahaha
No, it's you that you we must thank for blessing us with your presence XD
Sad to not see you on the list though....;(
K-on... an eroge?... I lol'd.
If you classify all the dojinishi stuff from it that is...
+ 1
sola and ef rules!!!! xD
can't find k-on visual novel...
... Wait, wut?
Did K-On start as an eroge? And where is my Kenshin-chan?
No Jun Watarase? Fail.
Tamaki and Manaka instead of Sasara and Maryan? Fail.
Jun is not a heroine whether you want to believe it or not. Otherwise techincally some people wouldv'e voted for former prime minister Taro Aso.
If you really want to get technical, Jun was a heroine in Happiness! Re:Lucks (could become female if the player wanted him to).
Jun managed to get into Saimoe due do a similar technicality regarding the single-episode Happiness! OVA, so I don't see why Jun can't be included in Dengeki's poll.
Yes, I also wish Maryan is on such a ranking. Few can match her level.
One more thing, I would have preferred Len or Illyasviel over Saber.
I would have prefered Rin over any of them.
Manaka manages to beat Tamaki... interesting
and Yui as well...lol
The pictures of Nagisa and Yui are fucking epic.
I'm pretty much done with this K-on phase.
This top ten was bullshit, because of it.
Tama-nee,Saya and Manaka is win...But where is Sasara and Tomoyo!?.
WTF does K-ON on this list?
I think Koihime Musuo character are pretty hot. Although a lot of my favorite H-game are based on the story and the character arts I guess ends up a bit generic. Although the ploy itself remedy the problem.
Too bad like half of the Koihime Musou cast are like lolis for some reason.
that's why they're hot
K-on is eroge huh.........well things do make more sense now.
Why is Saber even on the list? I find her to be the most uninteresting character ever made tbh.
Japan luvs foreigners. She ranks high in Type-Moon polls as well. Don't look at me though, Rin-sama ALL THE WAY
The hell? Some of those weren't even eroge, K-on isn't even a visual novel... and Saber only got fifth? Saber is the best character ever made.
My view and oppinion is somewhere in between the 3 of you. I love Saber, and think she deserves to be on the list, but I love Rin-chama alot more. She's not just my favourite visual novel character, she's my favourite female character in anime, manga, visual novels etc, period. My waifu! <3
fails for no Koi Hime Musou & Shuffle/TickTack/ReallyReally
and...fails for having characters that aren't even in eroge, fails for having 3 goddamn Key characters.
Way to be creative guys.
Agreed about fails for having characters that aren't even in eroge, but disagreed about fails for having 3 Key characters. Key rules, and so do their visual novels, and characters. Still, as Clannad is not an eroge, Nagisa should not be on this list. If it wasn't for that barrier though, I would replace Nagisa for Kyou any time. Also, Anon 12:29, I agree on the lack of SHUFFLE. Shigure Asa should be there.
Oh, and offcourse, Yui and Mio being on the list is bullcrap.
I am beginning to think that Kyoani are just sending in thousands of Yui and Mio votes every single time they see any character-related polls. Maybe they've been at it since Hurahi. Of course, it wouldn't work if their shows weren't any good to begin with, but this seems unnatural... Probably just paranoia, though.
I wonder how the rest of the rankings look.
Tamaki > K-On
And their all loli... Good job guys.. Seriously >.> (I hate you all)
They're all loli? Make good use of your eyes dammit!
Saber and Tama-nee are lolis?
You're worse than the people who put K-on on the list.
Ye, what the Anon above me said. Anon 12:55, what are you, retarded? When the hell did Saber and Nagisa become lolis? And a bunch of the other characters as well. Stupid braindead moron. Go research your otaku terms a little better before you use them.
seriously, K-On needs to die.
it's overoveroverrated and even going in to categories[EROGE?]LOL that doesn't fit.
God, K-on is fucking garbage.
^ QFT
Feena deserves #1.
... I still can't accept why there are non-eroge characters in the list.
Jeez. K-ON in this list just pisses me off.
I love Mio as much as you guys do but the anime is over, finito dammit. If there's something that Haruhi taught me is that no anime should be put in a pedestal. Just...let...it die peacefully.
It's not even a game. And due to the overexplotation. I'm starting to seriously hate K-ON.
Really, Mio is for otaku as Sephiroth and Cloud are for Square-Enix. LEAVE THEM ALONE!!
I aprove of everyone else on the list. Though I would have wished to see a yandere there.
I never played eroge before but I think K-On is not an eroge and also Nagisa? I think its Tomoyo and Kyou should be in her place.
I think none of them should be there (except Tomoyo)...
Seriously.. Clannad is NOT an eroge.. T______T
Agreed. Neither Clannad nor K-On! are eroges, so none of their characters should be there. But if allowed, and I had to choose one, then Kyou FTW.
So this week we find out that Earthbound was a bawwfest and Mio and Yui were in an eroge.
Yeah.
Very clever, Japan, very clever.
I Prefer Mikan from Wanko.
K-On is becoming the moe version of Naruto. Heck, I'd say it's worse than Naruto.
You're a fucking moron. You realize K-On was THIRTEEN EPISODES, right?
You do realise I'm talking more about the fanbase than the episode count, don't you? Overanimating is one thing, and overrating is another.
Look, you guys can crap K-On for as much as I care, but don't put it in the same level as Taruno. Ever.
You guys must be a pretty dumb fucks to compare K-On with Naruto. They are nothing alike, and Naruto is a fuckin' incredible show! Don't you dare insult it! EVER!
screw K-ON. screw it to the max!
id eat them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
clannad is not an ero ge either.
Now Kudo is one comrade I'd salute to and follow into battle with, even if she is only a quarter Russian.
Still Russian enough, Komrade!
But the correct question is: Is she Soviet enough?
Oh no, not the "In soviet Russia" again...
Only one Type-moon character? K-on? List is bullshit!
Setting aside the fact about the list being dubious.. At least the top isn't....
Kudo is WIN! XD
amen to that
Paper tissues are expensive unless you buy them from BJs, CostCo, or some other bulk retail outlets.
Where is Arcueid? <_<
One thousand times this! I still wonder after all this time how Saber, with her little to no appeal of any kind, beats Arcueid in these areas >_>
List is bullshit in too many reasons to count anyway. I wouldn't be too surprised if there was a K-on eroge/VN type game hanging around somewhere like there is for Lucky Star and Haruhi, but that would give no excuse for this bullshit.
Saber has little to no appeal of any kind? You fail hard, you moron. I like Arcueid, but don't you dis my Saber-chan. Rin-chama beats both of them though.
...Why K-On is there?
That's what Iam also about to ask. Probably since there are alot of Hgame girls that have the same hair style as Mio.
Leaving K on out of the question, that was really surprising.
Feena? Kudo?
Are there any Vn chara out of the August/Key/Visual Arts/Circus/leaf bloc?
Didn't August do the games Feena was in?
Visual Arts isn't really a company per se, but is kind of like a circle made up of three companies. Key, RAM, and one other one I think. Of course, Key largely overshadows both of the other two so you don't hear much of them. Hell, RAM had a several years long hiatus and only recently released another game from them called 5. I guess the Visual Arts shares labour and stuff, since Maeda Jun helped work on the soundtrack for 5 even though he's usually associated with Key. On a side note, 5 isn't too bad. It's the only game that 'almost' turned me into a siscon.
Scratch that about there being just 3 companies. I did some research (the japanese wiki) and turns out a LOT of companies make up Visual Arts. But Key is still pretty much one of it's biggest names.
NOUMI I LOVE YOU YOUR ENGLISH IS SUPERB <3
Saber wohoo
It should be
1. Rin Tohsaka
2. Rin Tohsaka
3. Rin Tohsaka
4. Rin Tohsaka
5. Rin Tohsaka
6. Rin Tohsaka
7. Rin Tohsaka
8. Rin Tohsaka
9. Rin Tohsaka
10. Rin Tohsaka
Agreed! +9999! Tohsaka Rin FTW! XD
You sir... Are Awesome!!!!
o AKSU-74 respect )
Saber = slutty whore.
please die. Saber fans unite! Rin is better though...
nahh.. she's not slutty... stupid describe her better... and no, not in a moetic kind of stupid... =p
slutty is dark hole erotica's exclusive.... XD
Rin is not in the list?? This poll is a travesty....
Indeed. Blasphemy is what it is.
Saber! Fuck yeah!
Otome Asakura is from D.C II not D.C., since Nemu is the only female Asakura in D.C. And I think Yume Asakura should replace Otome.
Oh well, guess it's like waiting for a $1 million lottery to appear in front of me to expect and hope that Sui (Komorebi), Shiori and Yukiko (11Eyes) to be on that list... :(
And wow WTF, no Tohsaka Rin..?
Yeah!! Saber in Top5 wouhouuuu \o/
Saber! My love, you're here!
What the fuck?! Why is Rin not in the list...??!!
I see alot of fellow Rin fans here, lamenting as I do at the lack of Rin, and travesty of this list. Saber is there, but Rin isn't? wtf!?
K-on being on an eroge list nulls the list.
The end..
I liek Yui and Mio as much as the next guy, but K-ON was a manga, then an anime. I've never seen a K-ON visual novel. Plus, those two took spots from Kyou and Tomoyo. Inconceivable!!
Noumi is fine but..Natsume Rin doesn't at least make it to 2nd place!!!?!
超萌啊!!!