Despite being (mildly) inferior, the PS3 version of Bayonetta has sold over twice the number of copies the (slightly) superior Xbox 360 original has on its opening day…
The PS3 version sold a total of 93,000 copies, whilst the Xbox 360 version sold a mere 45,000, despite scoring a whole two points higher in a suspect Famitsu review.
If even a botched port can manage twice the sales of the supposedly perfect Xbox version it seems Microsoft’s Japanese position may be even worse than previously established…
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Chances are there's ten times as many ps3's as xboxes in Japan, hence the higher total numbers?
That's probably the main reason.
The main reason dude is that Xbox can pirate the game.PS3 can't so...
For now that is xD
haha lol . If the ps3 is hacked in a sense that it will play pirated games. It's sales will soar and it will achieve heights like those of the ps2 or ever higher.
Man, how could I forget about that. That's just my situation, I still don't have a PS3 cause I can't afford original games. XD
As I understand a lot of PS3 games come on dual layer Blu-ray discs. The cheapest I can find a dual layer BD-R for is $23.50 and at that price you may as well just buy the game. For that reason I don't think piracy will be taking of on the PS3 any time soon.
Also, BD-writers are quite a rarity, at least in these here parts.
Booting the game directly from an external HDD could be the thing to go for, but I'm pretty sure a firmware update would follow, which would close up that security hole and/or ban PSN users who exploited it. With all this firmware updating going on one would think cracking has never been harder.
Not sure, because I don't own a 360 but is it possible to play pirated games online over Live?
Well, I don't know well about the price of games in other countries but here in Brazil the prices are absurdly high, it ranges from R$150 to R$250, so I have not much choice over that matter.
@MeganekkoAi
Yes, it is possible to play and even avoid get banned for it as long as the game has some kind of stealth applied.
It is possible consinder I encounter people on Xbox Live who brag they mod there Xbox to play Pirated copy of games its sad enough the now Microsoft is cracking down on that.
@Ragefat
Whoa, I've heard of notoriously high game prices in Brazil, but that is just ridiculous! In Slovenia PS3 game prices range from 50€ (cca 73$) to 70€ (cca 103$) and I've always though WE should be felt ripped off...
any nude filter of this girl out there yet?
ya its all about the number of consoles there are. There are 3.5 times more ps3s than there are 360s in japan. So for it to only double the sales means far lower attach rates.
It's not surprising that Bayonetta is still selling more on the PS3 than the 360, since the PS3 has sold 3 times as much as the 360 in Japan, and not every PS3 owner in Japan owns a 360 (though I'm pretty sure most 360 owners in Japan also own a PS3). What is interesting to note, is that Bayonetta is selling at a 2:1 ratio between the two versions, at least so far. When a multiconsole PS3/360 game is released in Japan, the ratio is usually 3:1 in favor of the PS3 version (sometimes higher). What this means, is that more multiconsole owners are picking up the 360 version of Bayonetta than is usual for a multiconsole release. I'm pretty sure this is because of the rather large difference in performance between the two versions.
ps3 can already play downloaded games the issue is not many ppl have a blu-ray burner and there is a lack of ppl willing to upload a 25gig file
No actually it remains unhacked.
Isn't that basically the point the article is trying to make?
I'm just making the point that relative to the amount of respective consoles on the market, the xbox version of the game probably sold than the 2:1 ratio this article makes out.
Total sales figures are nice, however it's good to hold those numbers in context to the amount of consoles on that market.
Back OT: I was kinda disappointed to hear that the xbox version scored better, but that's not gonna stop me buying this game for meh ps3 ^^
Same here. Slight better graphics or load isn't going to make the gaming exp to change that dramatic, unless the player is the impatient type. PS3 ver for me when I go to buy it.
i dunno bout slightly, thats like saying tekken 6 or SF4 would be fine if it were a 30fps game. Bayonetta is roughly double the frame rate on the 360 version during gameplay.
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/422/
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/423/
Given that Japanese PS3 sales are 3.76 million units, versus the 360's 1.17 millions, this means one out of about forty PS3 users bought the inferior Bayonetta port, while one out of twenty-six 360 users bought the superior original.
Tie ratio is much better on the 360 even in Japan, go figure. I'm not expecting the situation to entirely reverse with the American launch, but I seriously doubt that American PS3 Bayonetta sales could surpass 360's when it finally arrives.
You also have to factor in the fanservice games.
Xbox 360 had various games that catered to the perverse desires of gamers. Such as DOA4, DOAX2, Idolm@ster and Dream C Club.
That's a ton of anonymous japanese perverts with consoles to support their perverse needs.
Now, odds are they haven't thrown out their consoles due to the replayability of these games, notably the last two.
So, with that many perverts waiting for another perverted game. odds are they jumped at the chance to get a copy of Bayonetta for their perverse cravings.
Mind you, I'm a pervert myself. And as a pervert with both a PS3 and a 360. I'll be getting the PS3 version.
No, not because I'm a PS3 fanboy, but because my 360 broke down and whenever I do have a chance to get a game between the PS3 or 360 (multiport), I choose to get the game on the more stable console because then I'm less worried about the stupid console breaking down on me.
That said, I have very little use for my 360.
This.
Unlike Japan, most other countries won't give two shits about nationalism when deciding whether to buy the inferior or superior port.
just so you know japan doesnt have much nationalism. they dont have alot of country moral like most others ever since WWII. they have a lot of ps3 and i saw quiet a few xbox 360s. the only things i ps3 has alot more japanese games ( anime related or even hentai related and the men are wild for it)
That's exactly what I was gonna say. It doesn't matter about the numbers in japan alone. Tell us the numbers for international, and I bet those numbers will get much closer together.
Japan is the Home of Sony, hence the higher numbers. Just like USA is the home of Microsoft, hence the higher numbers of 360's there.
time for me to get a ps3
I'm not quite sure why you'd get a PS3 for Bayonetta.
Hey dumbass what's the point of selling 360s in JAPAN?
Hey dumbass what's the point of selling 360s in JAPAN?
hey dumbass, where you think most games are made?
north pole?
South Africa?
Andorra
Papua New Guinea
north korea.
ahmm how about Saudi Arabia?? where loli's are pawned
I would get it for ps3 since the disk would last longer (Blu-ray is indestructible!)
BluRay may be strong, but it can still be easily scratched most circumstances.
hmmm...i think the people that own this site have a thing against microsoft, oh well, more of the console that,s around, more games it shall sell, its only logical. Based on these numbers, the 360 did quite well at 45, 000.
cause its Japan news site mate
no
I like this Bayonetta better.
I suspect this will also be the case in America as well. But I didn't really think that IF there really any differences in the quality would affect sales for the PS3 version.
I think the 360 version will outsell in the US. Mostly because of the differences. People in the US are to graphics whorish. Not that I blame them, I was originally going to get the PS3 version by import, but when I saw the complaints and videos, I decided to wait for US 360 release.
WTF? People are buying the shitty version? Wow.
I think that shows how much more PS3s there are in Japan.
Artefact's ridiculous console fanboy trolling is so frequent that you have to wonder whether he is actually genuinely a rabid PlayStation fanboy himself. But then you wonder whether that's just what he WANTS people to think. Or is THAT what he wants you to think? No, no it isn't. But the point before could well be. Goddamn you troll master.
Sorry artefact, but the difference aren't slight, they're pretty big. The 360 version runs at 60 fps, the ps3 version runs at 30-, thats a big difference to the gameplay.
Also, we all knew from day1 the ps3 version would sell more, there are more ps3's sold in japan after all.
You post this as if you're surprised the ps3 version sold more.
Considering that the 360's position in Japan is horrid, I'd say that only having half the sales isn't all that bad.
I'd say it's great. I mean with its sheer console sales disadvantage I expected 10% of sales not 33% to be on 360.
More interesting numbers will be the US/Canada sales IMO.
Exactly. Those are two very important points about this!
Kyon Theorist FTW!!!
YOU RRoD 360 BETA TESTERS FAGS SURE GOT TOLD.
shut up
cause they pirate 360 versions?
I'd like the game better if Bayonetta looked more like that anime style picture on top.
+1
+2
Or at least have that set of decent body proportion.
Like I said, the PS series always work. If they haven't been immersed in a bath, hit with a hammer, fried literally with the plastic turning black and crumbly from a voltage surge or fire, they will always work. Now, 10 years from now, longer. My PS1 works. My PS2 works. And, when I buy a used but decent condition PS3, it will WORK ten or more years from now, as will all my games providing I keep them in reasonable conditions. CD's were thought to decay after 10 years, and used as "Coasters" they last days, but kept in their boxes without temperature extremes they are also nigh immortal.
It's something I wish people would demand of PCs... That your system will NOT crash -ever- and everything on it will continue to work even decades later. Working PCs are eco friendly, but making them isn't. If PCs would work forever, old ones even past obsolecense could be more often donated to larger "Distributed Computing/Parallel Computing" projects.
But, Microsoft gets in the home video game market, and we got systems that crash all the time, have trouble loading and frankly will be lucky to last 5 years once they go out of warranty. And there's RROD-tan. That says something doesn't it?
I have several old computers as well. An old 486 33mhz box still runs just fine as well, though the harddrive is getting a little jittery.
'Donating' these old boxes to distributed computing projects is ridiculous, though. My old computers have less combined workpacket crunching power than my current desktop does WHILE I'M PLAYING ON IT. Whereas they roughly need five times the power.
It's not economically feasible, the electricity bill would ruin me.
microsoft makes the software not the hardware, i doubt my toshiba laptop is build by microsoft
Having good luck with systems doesn't make them magically better. My 360 has RR once and I got it sent out and received it back from Microsoft within a week and a half.
My first PS1 was used so I'll assume something was broken when I got it. As it had no warranty I bought a new one and it broke later that year. I take good care of my systems but Sony claimed that I must have hit the inside and damaged it somehow so they refused to honor the warranty they said I still had when I sent it in. I paid their repair fee, which was more than I could have bought the system for, and got it back.
No less than two PS2s of mine had dying lasers. The first I sold to some idiot at school and bought a new one. The second I called Sony and they said there was an electrics shop I could take it to in the area with a permit to fix that issue that wouldn't void my warranty. I took it to him, he did fix it, but then a few months later the system wouldn't power on anymore. After sending it in to Sony they claimed my warranty was void because the system had been opened. I told them to keep the POS and went and bought one used and it worked until I got my PS3.
My PS3 was a 60g. I didn't use it for dvd's or PS2 games cause I still had my PS2 for a while after getting it. Then one day I decided to play Shadow of the Colossus on a new file and figured the PS3 was my ticket to doing so. Apparently the DVD drive in my PS3 was broken. Thankfully Sony replaced that for free, bastards still charged me for shipping though and it took two months to get it back.
Moral of the story here isn't that MS is better than Sony nor is it the other way around. It's just that hardware blows balls for all companies but Nintendo and that your luck with a console isn't the case to consider normal.
Wow...
Must have had REAL luck then. I only heard about the first US$600+ models overheating. I've had one used PS1, no problems. One new PS2 (stolen), replaced by used PS2 works just fine.
But they've never crashed and never failed to load a disk, even real "Coaster" ones I've got from the used market.
My X box, on the other hand, has trouble loading Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath even though I bought that NEW. The game, that is. A lot of games I fight with and it takes forever to load. And the thing is, I like the games. Esp Stranger and Circus Maximus... Really wish they'd update/re-vamp the latter.
Actually, I had to buy a second PS2 because the laser on my original one died.
Haven't had any problems with my 360 or PS3 yet.
And come on, PS1s failed all the time. People had to like, put them upside down before they'd read discs.
I had to do just that with my PSone. Just two or three hours ago my PS2 Slim (SCPH-70001) literally hanged while I was playing some .hack//G.U. Redemption, but it was about 35ºC/99ºF and my room was closed, so...
Microsoft rushed their second console's manufacturing in order to get a head start over Sony's PS3, and as far as commercial success and breaking free from the "PlayStation" brand name console gaming monopoly goes (not to mention turning their QC division into a running joke), their move payed up. They probably lost a fat lot of money when they extended the system's warranty to three years, but hey, power to the people.
The PS1 and the PS2 topped the home consoles as having the worst failure rate in its respective generation. Easily the worst ever for high selling consoles, until the X360. Yours may still work, but so does my 360 - anecdotal means little. The original XB was reliable as well, I believe.
If you want to talk about reliable consoles, it's the catridge based hardware that lasts. The NES, SNES, Genesis, etc
I don't see what the fuss has been about with this game here on Sankaku.
I mean, just look at Beyonetta, showing lots of flesh doesn't ammount to anything if the character is an absolute munter. She's just an ugly character, the only thing the game has going for it is fan service so having a main character like her pretty much leaves this game down shit creek imo.
Some people play games for this thing called "gameplay", you may have heard of it.
Then they wouldn't be playing a game that centers on a girl getting half naked as she fights.
And why not?
Your taste in virtual women is terrible.
I thought everyone would expect this to happen, for obvious reasons. To be honest, I expected a bigger difference.
I have a Wii and probably I'll be getting a PS3. If the only difference is the graphics (correct me if I'm wrong, please), I can live with it, since they would still be better graphics than those on the Wii.
BTW, I'm not buying a PS3 because of Bayonetta. I mean, I don't give two shits about xbox, with all the respects.
its japaneses and theirs own prison mind style..so rare..and patroit with their companies..
but yet the game still dont ready to sell in other part ofte world...just in japan and japan its ps3...
Because in truth if Sony or Nintendo Comapany fails then the Japanese Game Industry fails.
Hell, as much as they try to market games Japanese try to do anything to sell it if buy a Special edition version of the game they give you something like a Softdrink and Ramen Noddles.
japan its ps3....but yet the game still not sell in other part of the world...
I played the demo of Bayonetta, i'm going to buy it for the PS3 when it comes out in America.
It's feels so similar to Devil May Cry. (for obvious reasons)
Exactly! Since Devil May Cry I’ve been playin’ every hack and slash game I could get my hands on. But unfortunately none that I’ve played could match with DMC’s smooth gameplay. But after playing the Bayonetta demo it felt just like Devil May Cry. I plan on getting this game as soon as it comes out.
Take a look at the number of 360s sold in Japan, then take a look at the number of PS3s. It may have sold twice as much as the 360, but thats still a piss poor percentage overall for PS3.
so... wouldn't that mean they sold equal then?
how's that bad?
How would that mean they sold equal? I guess you didn't "take a look at tne number of 360s sold in Japan, then take a look at the number of PS3s"
According to wikipedia about 3 PS3s have been sold in Japan for each 360. PS3 Bayonetta only outsold the 360 version by 2 to 1, however. The 360 version is the clear winner here.
either that... or people who own PS3's just weren't interested in the game
There are more than 3x more PS3's than X360's in Japan. This isn't news.
The game will do better on the X360 in America, can you guess why?
I don’t think the game will sell any better in America for the 360. This is a game that has a required taste to properly enjoy, the same required taste that Japanese nerds crave. Now for us Americans with a little Japanese nerd in them, we probably have a PS3 and prefer it over the 360. I myself only bought a 360 because I wanted to play a JRPG that I couldn’t get on my PS3.
DMC4 sold much better on the 360 than the PS3.
Oh really, that’s cool, I didn't know that but I don’t recall saying anything about Devil May Cry. The required taste I mentioned about Bayonetta wasn’t the type of gameplay but the content. Devil May Cry was just violent which sell just fine in America. But games with sexy none American woman getting naked it what the Japanese crave.
We get it already! The Japanese hate anything and everything that is Xbox, let alone American made. Yet they won't acknowledge the fact that the PS3 wouldn't be where it is today without the US market. Besides, most Americans don't give two sheets about the Xbox-PS3 comparison.
What makes you say that they won't acknowledge the fact that the PS3 wouldn't be where it is today without the US market?
And yes, most Americans don't give two sheets about the comparison because they only care about what interests them. Same goes for the Japanese.
The sales might also be higher due to the fact that the PS3 version is region-free. Several sources have said that aside from the instructions, Bayonetta can be played entirely in English. Impatient people who don't want to wait probably imported.
So people are eager enough for the PS3 version of the game that they were willing to pay preorder and international shipping costs to get it early, in numbers significant enough to affect the overall sales, is what you're saying?
YOU RRoD 360 BETA TESTERS FAGS SURE GOT TOLD
They should ban someone for saying this crap
Of course the Ps3 version would sell more, even if it's worse.. It's Japan after all..
I don't know the exact HK sale, but the xbox version sold out rather quickly in my place. I just went to buy the day after it's release and had to search all over the place for the xbox version. Ironically there were plenty of Ps3 version ??
Where talking about JAPAN here. What does one expect? That they will buy a 360 just for this game?
Maybe its because the people who would have bought it on 360 sent their xboxs in for repair.
Gee - I'd love to buy it for my xbox, but I can't buy it anywhere (not even the ps3 version)
We already knew the Japanese market prefered the PS3 anyway. The sales numbers in the U.S. will probably be the total opposite of that.
at last a Bayonetta pic that isn't harsh to the eyes
I do love the way this article was written. XD "Despite being (mildly) inferior, the PS3 version of Bayonetta has sold over twice the number of copies the (slightly) superior Xbox 360 original(...)"
That was awesome.
Now that's my kind of moe!
so, why is anyone surprised with that? Jap PS3-version of Bayonetta has full eanglish support and bacose of that many people are importing it.
bacose?
Apparently you don't have full English support.
Why is this story news? It's it obvious the Japs support their own systems more than foreign-devil systems?
the version might be "inferior", but the console is superior, people are forgetting their xboxes in favour of a well made product.
You mean the version with the most sold console user base sold more than the version with less consoles sold!
SAY IT AIN'T SO!
Damn it arte, you write this fanboy biased article as if you're suprised by the sales! Everyone saw this coming except you by the looks of it.
Actually, this is fucking good figures
Most multi-platform games in japan will sell 3 or 4 times more on the ps3 than the 360. The xbox figures are just under 1/2 the ps3 ones.
This show that the superiority of the 360 version has helped improve sales.
So attempt to troll by arte fails, damn good figures for the 360 in my books, considering how unpopular the machine is over there.
"Slightly" my ass. The difference is night and day. Yet another fanboy post by Artefact.
I couldn't agree more.
its no suprise
ps3 gamers like this kind of game
x360 gamers just want halo
I dunno but I think the OP makes ppl think PS3 fanboys are retarded by posting this
Quite impressive for the 360 tbh.
Must have around 1/3 the install base of PS3, plus the console is easily piratable.
I think the real test will be how this does in the western market, since it's clearly marketed towards that audience.
isn't it enough with this game already?
Umm. I really don't see the point in this article.
Mysterious Voice: "The point is obvious. The PS3 is the true next generation. Anyone with the inferior Xbox 360 should upgrade to PS3."
But...maybe it's that the Japanese simply have a bias for the PS3. What when it gets released to other countries?
Mysterious Voice: "Then the PS3 will stil come out on top because more and more people are realizing the truth."
...why is it that you pop up on any video game console thread I try to comment in?
Mysterious Voice: "Because you never learn..."
There are way, way, way more PS3s in Japan than 360s. Therefore, the PS3 version was predicted to sell way, way, way more than than it's 360 counterpart.
The only people that didn't predict this are obviously slow in head.
There's also the factor that the PS3 is region free. I'd bet a lot of those sales are Import sales. Xbox is not region free...so they get kinda hosed. When it comes state-side, I would agree that the 360 will pick up more...cause were graphic whores like that.
Ugh...need to correct sentence
"... will pick up on sales more...Cause we're ..."
best bayonetta picture ever up there
Gotta notice how 360 purists become insanely aggravated and defensive when something negative is said about their beloved console. This kind of stuff makes me feel embarrassed to own one myself if this is what it does to people. Cripes.. Just enjoy your 360. You should continue to enjoy it and that's what matters. Nothing to prove to anyone.
Console fanboy-ism is such a waste of energy.
Anyways, great pic, Artifact! Cutest Bayonetta I've seen.
played the demo and loved it ( had to make a japanese Xbox live account...) but i want this game
Just feel it should be pointed out that the total initial shipment of the PS3 version was far far higher than the XBox counterpart's.
simple conclusion:
PS3 hardware = superior
- - - Bayonetta(PS3) = inferior
360 hardware = inferior
- - - Bayonetta(360) = superior
Why would a highly censored no goodie showing version of game sell better.. I mean since the sony check kills alot of good games, I am seriously thinking of changing sides... but I thought they were suiciding by doing so.. but looks like im wrong.
I don't know the exact sale figure in HK,but when I went to buy Bayonetta for Xbox the day after it's release.Most of the shop was already sold out,had to search head to tail for that game.I did manage to buy the game (jacked up price of course),ironically there were plenty of PS3 version
Now why didn't they just they just use that design from the OP pic instead of modeling a 10ft supermodel..
Love the comment ratings system. Let's try this out.
You're all fucking faggots!
Giving you a "+" just to mess you up.
Suprised this game even sold so much. Seems pretty crappy.
silly billies. the main reason why ps3 is so high is because the game is region free on ps3, so people are importing it worldwide.
Well it's normal, since the PS3's userbase in Japan is much much more than the 360.
I thinks its because people think Ps3's are superior to 360's in terms of longer usage ,,, they disregard the games (mildly) inferior graphics
why is japan so racist about game systems?
the main reason is hack n slash is better on ps3.
I can't pull off all those crazy moves for DMC4 on xbawks 360, but people can on ps3.
And the makers of these game will do the same to Bayonetta, meaning you'll have to manipulate the controls to pull off crazy shit. And ps3 is good for it.
Xbox failed as usual ;)
I dont even know what this game is :D
Bayonetta PS3 Sales Double Xbox 360 Sales
realy in a plase were ther 3 time the ps3 to the 360`s WOW im impreses
Sega released a patch for faster loading times, making PS3 Bayonetta not so inferior after all. downloaded it earlier today and load time cut down to 1/3 now :D