The LDP has recovered enough from its election drubbing to begin demanding a fresh ban of all things loli.
The LDP, with the support of their cultist allies the Komeito, have finalised another draft of the legislation they failed to get passed in the last session of the Diet, which they intend to get passed this session.
The content of the legislation is said to be the same as the previous bill.
However, with the LDP in complete disarray and having hardly any seats, it is unlikely to pass many laws by itself, and the ruling DPJ is sceptical of the proposed law, saying it threatens freedom of expression and might lead to arbitrary abuse of police power.
It is thought the LDP is now more intent on causing problems for the DPJ through tactical use of the proposed law, rather than actually seriously expecting to get it passed.
Critics of the LDP’s obsession with public morality have pointed out that the Japanese legal definition of a “child” for the purposes of this legislation is anyone under 18, whereas for most of the developed world the definition ranges from 13 to 16, with some even allowing 16-year-olds to work as prostitutes.
Besides Japan, only America regards all under-18s as minors, and none of these countries enforce bans on the display of genitals as Japan does. Were the LDP to pass its law, Japan would have by far the most draconian anti-porn laws amongst the major developed nations…
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Curse, you speech bubble!
admit it. you secretly love the speech bubble. it keeps you on your toes.
just let them ban the loli and kill lolicons so there will be more virgin women for us in the future!
they will get old ya know.
and banning the loli is THE FIRST STEP to WORLD DOMINATION and complete DESTRUCTION OF PORN.
BOOOOOOOO!
if I dominated the world I would let porn be given away to anyone who asked, and whatever they asked for.
If I dominated the world, all loli would be mine <.<"
if i remember correctly, shes suppose to be like, 1000 years old isnt she?
That makes her free game!
Then how old must be the speech bubble
Nope she is 1400 years old =P Flonne is 1500 and Laharl is 1300 xD or in my book Etna = 14 years old flonne is 15 and laharl 13 XD
<3 flonne
<3 Flonne
loli harem
You ppl are loosing the point. XD
righto the point is shes over 18
Damn birds can't shut up!
Etna is over 1400 years old.
I'd hit that bird with the force of a thousand suns
Why are these people getting so riled up over fictional children...? It's not as if they can prove the age of a piece of paper...
"It's not as if they can prove the age of a piece of paper..."
if you put it like that all things drawn are loli, and so everyone that reads a book with drawn males and females are underage, thus making everyone lolies!
that makes little sense, the opposite is more believable.
The inability to prove the age of a character on a piece of paper would mean that, more acceptably, THERE IS NO LOLI.
actually we can prove the age useing carbon dateing. and therefore anything that came out in the past 17 years is loli
The way to get around that is to simply put a disclaimer in 1pt font saying, "All characters in this work are over the age of 18."
That way it's word of god and no one can say otherwise. Course this limits the storyline a bit, but we still get our lolis
Actually, you could also argue that the creation of characters in anime/manga first occur in the mind. Thus, you would need some sort of measuring of when the creator created the created creation to gauge if it is over 18 or not.
If the DPJ are against a ban I hope they stay in power for a long time.
Would be great if they stop the censoring alltogether, away with the pixelation.
For most Otakus. The average Eroge age for Loli's is around 8-12. Though considering it's japan they can make even 17 year old's look like loli's *Lucky Star* so it's basically just how they look and not how old they are.
Good point. X3
THE LOLICON IS A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY BY TEH UN! THE LOLI IS A LIE! *cue glados*
NO, GLaDoS will kill us all, even the lolies, keep her out of this!
They just need something to do in their spare time. Without things to be offended by or vote against, many politicians and equality/feminist groups would have to start doing things that may actually benefit humanity in some way, and I don't see them doing that in the near future.
yes they can, it's called carbon dating, so all drawn porn is loli
Are you implying that the drawing of naked ladies was invented sometime in the 1990's ??? :P
I wish that was true, but in America two judges in two separate cases have ruled that (I'm paraphrasing) "There can be a [kiddy porn] crime even if there is no victim." The stupidity of this is obvious, but that doesn't make any difference to the poor guys who are now in prison.
poor LDP
LDP should move their party headquarters to Ausfailia.
or Canada T_T
surely you mean Can'tada.
Cuntada
1) Keep the fuckers out of my country - OUR polititions are retarded enough we don't need MORE retarded old men.
2) Spell the fucking name right.
Astaroth~
politicians
Ah right - I'm kinda tired and typing as fast as I can...
Polititions wouldn't be in support of loli neither, but at least they would support hentai in general.
Polichickens, anon. Say it right,
+ 1
Such Blasphemy...
blasphemy? this is madness!!
MADNESS? THIS IS SPARTA!!!!
samefag got tiered of waiting for someone to make the apropriat response
Indeed I did.
Now... why am I calling myself a fag?
"Besides Japan, only America regards all under-18s as minors"
Maybe, but even in the case of Australia where you are a minor until the age of 16, it is still illegal to work as a prostitute or a porn star until 18, and likewise drawings of under 18s come under the same ruling. So it isn't just about whether you're a minor or not.
Doesn't it vary state to state in the US?
true the youngest legal age in the US is 14 no lie...
Yes and no. There is the state and federal ages. It's like here in Canada. Each province is different and the federal age is 16 I think.
It's all very confusing anyway.
I live in the redneck province, age of consent is 14, huzzah!
Aaaaactually, Sweden consider anyone u18 a minor as well, apart from being allowed to get a job that the parents give a thumbs up to. In the eyes of the law you're old enough to get a sentence at 16, but not the full term until 21.
And if memory serves, Sweden consider all hentai punishable by the child pornography laws.
No they don't, not when it comes to the age of consent. It is set to 15 years old except for very specific circumstances where it is raised to 18 years old; like being under the care, guardianship or similar of the perpetrator.
"(...) whereas for most of the developed world the definition ranges from 13 to 16, with some even allowing 16-year-olds to work as prostitutes."
Citation needed.
I'm all for loli, but let's not get carried away here.
Check south America/Brazil
If I was drawing Power Puff Girls ( not in Erotic way) I am consider a Pedophile?
Nooooo...... Seriously... is only animation.... people need to chill more
*yawns* not again....
Maybe they should ban those LDP right into Antarctica or something.
Let all these guys lobby in Antarctica, they can pass all the batshit insane laws they want there, though I'll feel a little sorry for the penguin locals.
Watch these idiots fail, again.
They are trying to pass a law that failed once, now with less party members?
They are either:
a)stupid
b)stubborn
c)politicians
d)all of the above
...or like some people mention earlier- they got nothing more constructive to do with their free time. They probably just PRETEND they are doing SOMETHING so they can keep the funding coming...
I pick D ;P
I think you still lack "hypocrite".
You missed C didn't you.
Here we go again...>_<
Go away, LDP.
Loli are forever.
stick with 2D Lolis 'cuz 3D Lolis grow up. That and shit will go down.
Seems like they are huge bullhead. When will they finally learn that they have no chance with their suggestion besides that it would kill lots of the encenomy.
Ugh, why? They should just give up...
Won't they ever fucking stop? it's like they don't have any intelligent way to fight their enemies; dumbasses...
LDP = Loli-Downloader Punishment
lmao!
+1 XD
As I said in the previous article, what's needed is to push back hard as the "Free Speech" pendulum swings back. These moralist scum need to be punished. Push back to the point where it goes beyond "ThoughtCrime" into making RL "Crimes" either legal or near-unenforceable. And make it clear, along with anonymous threats in advance it'll be direct punishment for turning things that are pure fantasy, not involving any real "victims" into crimes equivalent to doing it in RL.
Now, nobody's going to dare propose or vote for a "Protect the Pedophile" law. On the other hand, we can use "Privacy" and "excessive search/surveillance" issue laws to that advantage. A good thing to get back is the "One investigation/one crime" standard. Where if police look for drugs, they can't also look to see if the car's license is still valid and for illegal porn on the computer, etc. Use of notorious examples, like Cell phone abuse, Romeo and Juliet 'molesters' where the parents seperated 16 and 17 year old lovers and the prosecutor stepped in, could make "Statutory" laws more relaxed.
These moralists are the bigger threat to mankind than a legion of "Chester the Molesters". They are ignorant of any problem, and uncaring unless it affects them. Then they look to the leader, the media that created or caused the problem and give them what they ask for for the pretense of fighting it. Then they go back into their bigoted shells and ignore the damage they helped do. The gradual decline of living standards that this attitude has helped "F*cks" kids over far worse than a few nasty people, for it feeds all their labors and futures to the short-term goals of the rich elite.
It's the "Parasite and the Toady". The Parasite is the despot, such as the cruel King, the corrupt Banker, the perverted Priest...etc... However, vile as they are, their actions are predictable. They seek to enrich themselves at the expense of others and wrap themselves in pretense of righteousness. The enabler is the "toady" who supports them no matter how much proof is shown the evil and vileness of those he ensrhines, enables and emulates. The Toady is the non-millionaire who votes "Right Wing", the boss's spy who reports on the union, the "Snitch" in the ghetto or in prison, the church group who helps the corrupt politician who claims to be "Moral". By himself, the parasite could not have done a tenth the damage he has done to mankind without the "Toady" to help him with little or no reward.
"Japan would have by far the most draconian anti-porn laws amongst the major developed nations"
Singapore is pretty developed, but the govt doesnt even allow censored porn... Drawn or otherwise... So I vote Singapore as the most draconian as there isnt any porn to ban in the first place o.O
No offence to anyone but we might as well be living in an Islamic country or sumthing... ...
This is amusing because I was in Singapore recently and I took my laptop, which is completely full of eroge.
here malaysia (which is just beside singapore!) is more worse than singapore!!!
oh wait....malaysia is not developed..
Hey! We(Singapore) are still not considered developed yet! So we don't really count. And our law is quite slack unless the police for some reason wants to mess with you... Or when you are a politician... Our politicians must be perfect!!!!
No.
Singapore allows porn, but not the distribution of it. Anything else is just "your own business".
I'm sorry.
I just... don't get it.
You don't even have to like loli to see how ridiculous this is.
Besides, who really did all the research that says Japanese anime-style pieces of art make people rape children? =.=;;;
I understand wanting to protect the children, but in accusation, it's almost exactly like saying, "Ban murder shows because they encourage murder" or "Ban American drama shows because they encourage cheating on husbands/wives."
I mean, not everyone agrees with what's out there, but when there is such a little influence on actual life, why do you have to ban it? >.>;;;
This isn't about the lolis it's all about publicity. People like to hear that their government has morals, whether it really does or not, so doing something because it's "morally right" looks good to the masses.
Exactly, they pass "feel good" laws to please the public, letting real crimimals get by.
And yet, they have very little support from their own country...
Even more of a reason to pull a publicity stunt.
Publicity stunt? It sounds counter-productive to me.
Except 98.6% of Japanese people reject the loli ban
Wish I was that prinny...I'd drill her with my beak if you know what I mean.
I'd drill her with your... Uhmm *coughs* awkward...
Can't wait to see their failure
Loli can't be ban cuz everyone love it
LDP just have no other issue to argue LOL
Ten Little Lolis And Then There Were None.
cuz they grew up?
Lolies don't grow.
Then I got some bad news for you...
What is it? Tell me!
Oh, but don't say anything about the growing lolies, because I still love my 500 years old loli.
On the minimally positive side, the fact that the bill is roughly the same as before means that even the LDP ignored CEDAW. CEDAW's suggestion was, after all, to include banning pornography "that promotes violence against women" in this bill.
Japanese economy lives from loli, no loli Japan will go poverty
::cue the Lolinator::
"I'll be back..."
If this passes then the next thing you know a certain chinese idol is elected as their prime minister...
They're at it again....
*yawn* The internet will always be here.
"Besides Japan, only America regards all under-18s as minors"
AND the entire European Union.
Just had to point out this inaccuracy.
The Union maybe, but not it's member states...
By law you are no longer a minor at the age of 18 in all of the European Union member states. What does differ between memberstates is the age of sexual concent/maturity, which is between 13 and 17 depending on the state.
I wouldn't care if they were to unban the unbelivably stupid censoring of the genitals in all future japanese porn, especially the handdrawn!
One for the other. I could care less for losing lolis if this was to change.
To be fair, I would probably have to say I approve of something being done about the sale of loli - but that's just a personal preference.
That being said, it's like closing the gate once the horse has bolted. Having lived in Japan and having spent a lot of time in Akiba, I'm aware of just how much "questionable" (by a "European standard") pornography is on the shelves at this very instant; never mind yesterday, the day before, and the untold millions of books and magazines that have been sold in the 20 years before now.
Illegalising loli would then mean a lot of people would technically be engaging in criminal activity, and this would be a real logistical headache.
It's easy to say that it's curtailing freedom of speech, but I've seen images on those Akiba shelves that have stayed with me - stuff that I can't really defend on those grounds. Some of it was just sickening, even for a hardened internet geek like myself who had thought he'd seen it all.
I've never understood why it's such a horrible thing by the internet's standards to not like some sort of porn or another. I admit I don't find loli porn a turn on in any way, but even things I do like get sickening when taken too far. There's plenty of things I've seen where all I could think was that whoever had drawn, animated, wrote, etc. needed to have their heads examined.
In the end there's nothing wrong or right about it. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. Problem is that people try to push their morals on others and the moral majority (hint: It's not forum dwellers) do believe it's wrong, so they'll try to get it banned. Luckily for the people who make/buy this stuff lawmakers are traditionally morally grey.
Perhaps you need to take a look at Mai-chan's Daily life, it's AWWWWWRIGHT. Really though, it has nothing to do with how sickening you find it, or even if you like it or not. These are composed of your subjective views, and your personal opinion has no place in law. Personally, I am a lolicon, but that doesn't mean that I like all the loli there is out there, and if I don't like it I simply ignore it. The materials themselves, regardless of content, are harmless unless you allow them to harm you. If you find something disturbing and allow it to offend you, that's only because you CHOOSE to think that way. No matter what is portrayed, it's your personal interpretation that makes it a positive or negative experience for you, and your personal views do not constitute law. If you create laws based on your opinion, it gives anyone else the right to do the same based on theirs, and as a "hardened internet geek", I'm sure there are plenty of things that you like that certain people would LOVE to see banned...
tl;dr version: Personal opinion does not constitute law, your disgust is entirely subjective and must not be allowed to hinder freedom of expression.
You're forgetting one thing. Having lived in Japan and having been to Akiba a number of times does not give your opinion on what things need "something done about them" any more weight than that of the average ignorant.
You're suggesting a ban on certain material that can be found in Akiba would be justified because, what? You found the depicted things to be sickening? Give me a fucking break. You saw things you can't possibly defend, fine. The point is, it does not need to be defended. It's DRAWN, FFS!
Concerning the shelves and shop windows of Akiba. I'll quote the impressions and feelings of another person who still lives there:
"It's an incredible place: so much variety, so much geekiness packed into small buildings. I also had the chance to visit several Eroge shops. It wasn't hard: quite the opposite really: at least two or three were right up against the street, and the rest were only a floor up or down. I can't tell you how much fun it was, as a fan, to walk in and be surrounded by the stuff.
But the really striking thing was how free it was. In the US, you couldn't even publish stuff like this, but even if you did, you'd have to hide it away. Not so here: like I said, some stores with open fronts right up against the street, just walk in. Everything blatantly on display, no layering or attempt to hide. I've seen covers of Cosmo censored in US grociery stores, and this was the most wonderfully filthy stuff you can imagine, staring back from every shelf. Not seedy or creepy either: those are results of trying to hide. The box art was fantastic, ads for games were plastered or hung everywhere, the stores were well-lit, clean and pleasantly run.
In short, porn was treated like alcohol or cigarettes: You had to be of age, but that was pretty much it: no hiding, no wallowing in shame, no playing games. The only place you can get that kind of positive experience in the US is online or in the likes of San Fran. This is whats at risk here, or at least one of the things: an imperfect but thriving, free expression of sexuality, largely unashamed of itself. I think that's worth fighting for."
(via YtF forums [http://forums.yestofreedom.org/viewtopic.php?id=91])
The protect the children stuff is red meat to get people to believe their government is a moral force for good even when it's raping them through the wallet and shooting a non stop money hose into their pet industry that funds their campaigns.
Well how about that.
Well that's a nice democracy.
We try to get the same fucking thing passed until it gets accepted.
World you failed me once again.
Do not want.
So the Bible was right; Pride is the worst and most dangerous sins of all. These egoist LDP bastards won't admit that they already loosed the last one and still are stubborn enough to continue this pointless job.
yup Lust is the root of all sins and Pride is the worst of them all.
Japanese Liberal Democrats are doing the work of the Taliban. This is serious. Would Hatoyama stop them? I hope he will do so, because if he chose to toe to them, then Japan would face a civil war...over hentai.
THIS IS MADNESS!
Okay, I finally understand about the 2012 thingy. If this is everything they are bothering about right now, then surely the world will end.
Or did it mean on 2012, the ban will be approved? *gasp*
The less big of a deal we make of it until the culture is in immediate threat, the less chance we'll screw up early and cause an immediate death of the World.
We must be vigilant! Dark Army of Loli Haters is on the move! We should form a more powerful spell to drive them back to their Realm of Lack of Understanding.
</:[
i dont see why these nude and sex stuff would be so offensive to so many people, once they hit teenager they are good to go. hey man, i am just saying i am not gay but i dont care seeing nude men/boys/women/girls walking down the street. i mean thats what cavemen used to do. maybe i am a reincarnation of a caveman.
SAGECITY IS CALLED UPON!!!
These guys just can't see the lines between fantasy and reality. I pity those fools...
LDP surely dump, if they want more support they should start with more attractive and efficient campaign like:"uncensored all censored porn in our country!!!" I think that will do nicely.
The first thing what I thought was : "Oh, you again."
The second thing was: "Eroge sakoku will come again!!"
One day, I read something interesting at web, it said "japan is a country what pressure from other countries is a just cause to make or not make prohibitions. Whale hunting should be considerate exception about it."
Politicians give more attention to another countries than your people...poor japan.
Speaking of censoring genitals when the fuck are they going to stop censoring thier porn
Haiz... Honestly speaking, the time they spent on trying to irritate each other, or us for that matter, could be better spent on considering how to save Japan's economy seeing that it hasn't been doing so well for the past few years.
Everyday, I'm amazed at how stupid some people can get. I seriously suggest that world health authorities label Stupidity as an epidemic.
there is a trick round it, just make them older with lolli bodies, simple really. plus i doubt it would pass
Besides, they're not even in power anymore!
"Besides Japan, only America regards all under-18s as minors"
Hmmm sorry you are wrong, several countries in Europe do the same
Not here in Hungary, 14+ is total OK!
I said several, not all. At least in Portugal you are a minor until you are 18 and I believe it's the same in Spain
There's a difference between being a minor and being of the age of consent as well, age of consent is often lower.
im so fucking sick of this bullshit..
It doesn't matter what we say or do, they are adults and are responsible for their own actions, weather they pass no-loli laws or not, they are able to make up their own minds.
I'd like to point out that the stuff we see on the internet from Japan is not what people see in Akihabara... So it stands to reason why something like a ban on loli might even occur in the minds of anyone, its not even unreasonable, but it does need some tweaking to appeal to freedom-of-speech standards.. kissXsis doesn't show any loli porn, there is so far no intercourse, but its essentially loli pornography, HOWEVER, there are people who wont read kissXsis because its too perverted.
So it really makes sense to me that someone might make a stand against loli pornography, and I like the idea of 'no-excessive-violence' in my porn.
But who determines how "excessive" the violence is? Wasn't a game banned from Xbox just because a girl fell down after getting pushed/shoved?
yeah it was from some eroge game and we know the xbox has some of the most violent shit on there. Its a huge double standard men and brutally hurt men, women can do some the worse things to men and nothing could happen. Yet when a women get hurt by a man heaven's wrath will rain on that poor soul. If she had it coming or not. I seen it Cops so many times the women whooped the guy's ass, busted a bottle over his head, etc. When the cops come if she has a few minor injuries the man will go to jail before the women. I even remember there was an article where I women cut up her man with a knife and she go off with "disorder conducted" when it was and should have been attempted murder.
I like the idea of illegalizing all porn enjoyed by LonerGoth.
Not again!?! Damn you Agnes Chan and your Feminazis!!
Why. Are we not allowed. To see. Genitals!?
I dont find it disgusting. I find thoose shaved cunts beautiful. Why am I not allowed to see it?
Such bullshit. By the way, In Russsia (yea you guessed it) you can download as much uncensored JAPANese porn as you want.
not this shit again.
The problem with any ban is that it can increase defiance..
They'll just end up failing like they did last time.
HAIL THE PRINNY DOOD!
what are prinnies supposed to say in japanese anyway?
a crime is not a crime if it doesn't happen,since 2d children don't exist there is no crime.
Also if somebody would be saying they will sexualy abuse you and you recorded that,then you pretty much have proof of somebody threathened you in some way.
So they should just bend over and drop this banning already
Let's not forget written lolis and shotas too, hmmm?
I mean, this ban is based on the context of artistic expression and the depiction of fictional children, so why not talk about the depictional of fictional (since we don't know if those children actually lived where it was written they did) Biblical children then. I mean...
.... And Jesus sayeth unto his Disciples, "Let the little ones come unto me, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven"....
If taken out of context, the way some people demonize even the most innocent of pictures of, say Miu from Ichigo Mashimaro.... then that would make Jesus one of the World's kindest pedophiles, wouldn't it?
Because anyone can read anything they want to in a subject without really seeing the matter for what it really is. Perception is the problem here.
Just so you know, I'm knocking Jesus, or those who choose to follow the Prince of Peace.... but I really do get pissed the fuck off by some of His most fervent followers for their rampant ignorance. >_< I'm going off to kill zealots and council members on Diablo II. And since I'm murdering in cold blood those following their rights to freedom of religion, be sure and call the cops on me.
ain't Etna like, 1600?
that sounds pretty legal t me
yay... now how in the world is anime gonna be fun? ... you'll need these Loli, its a freaking selling point!
Protecting children from the public, that were created for the public...
loves america and its first amendment
I don't know, I'm still unsure about having loli manga delivered to my door, running into the risk someone might open it. Probably just my paranoia
Yes, that's really a thing i envy you about. No matter how many hardliners and moralfags you got, you still have a very solid freedom of expression layed out in constitution which wins in the end. I hope for you it stays that way. Wish i would be the same where i live.
Yea but a lot of moralfags push for ignorebillofrightsanddueprocessfags for judges.
The Founding Fathers of the US might've been a bunch of old hypocritical bastards, but they knew what they were doing when they drew up the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution. They knew that it was important to keep Church and State separate from one another.
Which still confuses me as to why the majority voted for Bush's Christfag ass two fucking times over the past ten years. There had to have been some shady shit going down under the table during those years. I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries the same shit in japan that was pulled in America back during the turn of the century.
i wonder why they keep focusing on this loli ban bill; and if it didn't passed they just wasting resources and tax. instead of focusing on the loli ban they should focus on improving their defense and reconstruction plan from attack such as icbm and terrorist.
>Japan would have by far the most draconian
>anti-porn laws amongst the major developed
>nations…
And still, they couldn't get rid of all that crazy prOn from the last millenium, that makes non-japanese think badly about japan.
The only way, this law can be pass, is if theres extremists who'd want this law to pass by creating loli/shota sex crimes themselves and blame it on our beloved eroge. No, I don't want this to happen but the cards seem to point out that way.
Then they'll go all blitzkrieg with their law afterward.
What with you, giving out idea like that?
Now they have read it, you know they're planning it =/
if the law would pass the country with the strangest porn would have the strictest laws...what a fucked up world...
Awesome. Make works of fiction illegal.
That really makes a whole lot of sense.
It's like the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy all over again.
Making works of fiction illegal would be putting the Catholic Church out of business if anyone caught on.
Did I just say that out loud? o.O
You could always travel to Vietnam and try the real deal.
Nice, but they're hot? I doubt it!
At least they are cute. And that's what matter when talking about loli.
Displaying loli genitalias?
Holy cow, I would be in heaven!
stop giving age to fictional characters!
(I am not an Anon Member just too lazy to register). It's like annoying to see the LDP being too persistent.
Personally anything offending should be considered when its a blatant and intentional attack directed at you personally whether it be mental or physical. That's where the crime starts. It's all case by case process.
Really I don't know anymore. Loli advertisements or porn being sold. It may offend me to see it stores, but is there any such proof that loli pron is a personal attack to me in anyway? No. I think not. There is no wording or verbiage that personally directs it to me. Is it literally telling me or the populas where we can actually go and buy an actual child off the black market? No I don't think so. Frankly it's upsetting. Well this can be regarded for not just loli but any other type of porn.
And this brings up another issue. Why is any kind of consensual sexual relationships considered such a bad thing? When love is involved, why is there a problem to the point of crime? Promotion of consensual sexual relationships and love shouldn't be looked down upon. Seriously. Of course your parents have the utter right to prevent you from having relationship. They are raising you, giving you a house to live in and food to eat. You don' own the house, so the parents get to make the rules until you can move out, support yourself, and/or contribute to society (pay taxes, etc).
The government however doesn't really have any right to get involved in something on the level of a family dispute.
Really, when it comes to MEDIA SUCH AS VIDEOS, PICTURES, etc its all come down to technology. Things are too readily and easily available to us that we no longer know how to parent our kids, or keep things in moderation from one another. It's like episode 1 of Kino's journey about the country's citizens that could reach each other's thoughts. It's sorta at that level now. We see things and know things about other people that we wish we hadn't learned about in the first place. Privacy (even without the invasion of privacy laws) is no longer here. It's like looking into a glass house. We can't keep to ourselves anymore because we know what everyone else is doing.
This is truly why this damn loli ban is even getting the slightest bit of attention. Well it goes even deeper. But yeah...had these panics not gone on if you had given it about 50-100 years without change of development of internet it would have been common place. =_= Really. Sorry that was long winded. Feel free to copy and paste this in the forum.
"Were the LDP to pass its law, Japan would have by far the most draconian anti-porn laws amongst the major developed nations…"
But then the market in Japan wouldn't be held up by their massive porn industry anymore, and would be left with one leg. With UNICEF working on banning hentai, it'll be left without a head, too.
So if you want to lose all your money and destroy Japan's economy, Mr. LDP, then please, kill off the things we Otaku thrive on. Make us rapists.
It'll never last.
Shouldn't that Prinny be blowing some place up with a bomb strapped to it's belly as that's what prinnies do after all.
Really the moral fags in JP are beaten and discredited worse then the ones in the US.
The ones in the US fragmented the Republican party really they should secede and make their own party called the we have our heads up our ass party.
I can't wait until they pass this law, and then realize they have to establish an "Official Government Office of Determining How Old Drawn Characters Are." I foresee...trouble.
God damnit.
The last thing Japan needs is a loli ban, EN might take it to mean they can get even more stupid bans passed, like a ban on all eroge or porn period.
Nothing says walk all over us when the government does it to it's own people....again.
It's good to see that the ruling party is against it so far. Hopefully it is just the one party just trying to be a pain for the other. I'm not one for loli, but it's still freedom of expression.
Where are these groups when shit happens to real children?
Uhh, don't even mention that creation of the devil himself!!
I hate censor in ero!! I mean it totally messes up the fine composition of the picture and sometimes it's only a thin line, that actually doesn't cover anything but bothers like hell!!
+ mainly every otaku can draw...So banning 'public loli' is like creating a whole new underground market for doujinshi...They just didn't think this trough...
Don't these people believe in evolution? "If they're old enough to bleed, they're old enough to breed." They aren't a bunch of EVOLUTION DENIERS like those intelligent design right wing Christian whackos, are they?
The bad news is: "Anyone who likes loli is going to Hell!".
The good news is: "Loli is legal there".
Seriously just give up already LPD's just a bunch of people with nothing to do but wreck everything. Stupid politics(politicians) and old hags.
Australia also count anyone under 18 as a minor. I believe the UK is the same?
I live in Europe, and every country i can think of here in the european union has 18 years as the age of coming of age. If there is a state with another age, then it would probably one of the new former sovjet member states. So at age of 18 no longer a minor, with a few nuances from country to country (sometimes deliberately, sometimes remnants in the laws of the old age of coming of age at e.g. 21. What does differ between the member states is the age of sexual consent, where i live it's 16, but there are countries with age 17 or 14. Here there is currently a debate ongoing to lower that age.
"legal definition of a 'child'...ranges from 13 to 16..." 16-year-old lolis? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY??
ahhh bastards at it again
Glad to see that the Japanese government has found something to keep themselves busy with while their banking sector, labor market, and education system disintegrate.