Vesperia Devs Thank Xbox 360 Beta Testers
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Oct 22, 2009 01:59 JST
- Tags: Namco, Ports, PS3, Tales of Vesperia, Tales Series, Xbox 360
The furor surrounding the Xbox 360 beta version of Tales of Vesperia refuses to abate, with the Namco developers responsible pouring oil onto the flames by thanking the “players” for their contributions in allowing a better PS3 version…
The interview was published in the official PS3 guidebook:
Provocative excerpts:
“Xbox 360 players often complained ‘why aren’t these parts voiced?’, so when making the PS3 version we first set about improving the voicing … As a result, the entire main scenario became fully voiced.”
“We’d be delighted if those who played the Xbox 360 version would play the PS3 version too. Of course the same goes for those playing for the first time.”
“We made a lot of changes we think Xbox 360 players would be sure to appreciate.”
“There are a lot of elements from the Xbox 360 version which were improved, so please give it a try.”
“Based on the feedback so kindly provided by Xbox 360 players, we added a lot of additional elements.”
Replace “Xbox 360″ with “beta” and “players” with “testers” for full effect.
Doubtless they are also grateful to Microsoft for subsidising the beta in the first place…
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I played the beta and I don't think it has enough potential to be a great game. Felt like your typical generic Tales
Except the hero isn't some whiny "oh no killing people is bad!"
Yeah, dude even kills a high-ranking general in a cold-blooded manner, even though his trusty companions advice him not to. Now THAT'S something you don't see in other Tales.
Just return the 360 game for a full refund because of fraud. I'm sure Namco will be delighted to loose a whole lot of money.
Well.. seeing that this game has been out for close to a year now, I'm sure Namco doesn't mind it if one or many does try to demand their money back.
Those types of loony lawsuits that happen in America will make many a lawyer grin with happiness for all that extra cash they'll be getting out of the noobs who try this.
Also seeing that Namco did produce a Complete Game for the xbots, their legal standings is Solid.
How do you "loose" money? You can LOSE money, but you cannot LOOSE money.
hack it anon,i bet you're a sore loser beta tester too
your welcum!!!!
Besides the ladies, the main hero is the reason to play the game.
Screw Namco and that BS. I think Microsoft or someone should sue their asses. You'd have to be pretty damn arrogant to have people beta test something for one console, then come out with a better game for another console, and ask the beta testers to then play it AGAIN, and invest more money into it.. This is why I hate Namco so much... what dicks.
You mean M$ are dicks. Why don't they try to make a competent system that isn't focused solely on the tastes of fatass fratboys and fat little kids?
OH YEAH I LOVE YOU
:3:3:3:3:3
samefag
YOU DID NOT PLAY THE BETA. YOU PLAYED THE FIRST RELEASE VERSION
FUCKING RETARDS GODDAMN
FUCKING SERIOUSLY THAT IS NOT WHAT BETA MEANS
BUNCH A FUCKIN IDIOTS DONT KNOW SHIT BOUT VIDEO GAMES GOD DAMN THIS IS BUSINESS AS GODDAMN USUAL IN THE INDUSTRY GODDAMN GFUFCKING
FFFFFFFFFFFF
SERIOUSLY YOU ARE ALL FUCKING TERRIBLE
THIS IS BUSINESS AS USUAL ARE YOU ALL FUCKING THIRTEEN
I MEAN, IF YOU THINK THIS IS WORTH GETTING EVEN SLIGHTLY UPSET ABOUT, AND YOU THINK THAT THE WORD "BETA" IS APPLICABLE, I HAVE TO CONCLUDE THAT YOU ARE EITHER 13 OR KNOW ABSOLUTELY JACK SHIT ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
CAPS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS
Tales of Vesperia >> most hated main "Tales of" series
(not only becz "Beta" but also it's bad game itself.
Older "Tales of" much better)
Ohohoho... waits for another eruption and "This is getting old" or "Sancon is Sony-bias" comments..
Let the fanboy crying begin!
Sure thing !!!
lets enjoy the show
The show for today is "Namco's Troll", looks good.
I like how this has become so routine that the comments are about comments now, instead of about ToV or Sony.
Comments get swayed from the orginal post so fast they serve no other purpose than flame :]
And you just realized this?
It's not the matter of fanboy/crying, its the matter of law suing. I didn't pay 60 bucks for a beta, and this is me who has the 360 AND the ps3. I simply bought the 360 version cause it came out faster -_- now I'm sitting with a 60 dollar beta. If I knew the ps3 version was the "real" version, I would've waited for it and bought that. I want my money back dammit.
Trade back?
great, another attempt at the whole fraud angle. no, it IS crying.
yea, you paid for the $60 360 version. at a time when no PS3 version was announced. you bought what they offered. they never labeled it the beta version. they never labeled it the complete never again to be modified or added to version. they labeled it Tales of Vesperia, which is what you bought. if you know anything about jrpgs you should know that its a good chance no matter what that it'll get an enhanced version (that no one but Japan usually sees).
bottom line, go ahead waste you money and try to sue, you won't win. there was no fraud. they put out the product they said they would and you bought it. You can't sue George Lucas because he enhanced the original Star Wars trilogy later. you can't sue other movies that make the later dvd director's cuts. you can't sue software makers who make an upgraded version just because you went ahead and bought the inferior version because it was out sooner (you can't even claim that they OWE you updates unless the product claims it will provide them to you. if you bought an update-less product, thats your problem). you bought the version you bought, which is what they were offering. period.
uuh trade back for a full price? since when is that possible. The guy would still be losing money
Trade back at half price, buy ps3 version for $30 more than you get back = expansion pack for $30.
disgaea 1 has additional content on the psp.The ps2 doesn't since it was made some time ago.
Anyway can't patch xbox 360 games for such purposes?
Yeah, I should sue for my copy of FF1 back on the NES too. I played this GBA version a while back, and there was all kinds of new stuff! I paid good money for that NES game, how dare they add stuff to it on a different console and release it!
are you fucking stupid (you are)
Lol'd hard.
Love the fanboys crying...
LOL actually, I was waiting for a comment just like the one you posted. =P
That aside, there's been a strange influx of X-Box and PS3 articles recently, huh? Artefact has said before that he's not affected by comments because of how small a percentage they represent the actual readership, but I wonder if he really doesn't care as much as he says he doesn't (perhaps because the comments are also part of the entertainment for much of the readership?) Heh, just a wonderance, tho =P
lol its Sankakucomplex revenge on Bayonetta being shitty on ps3!
man, the way there are saying really gives the feeling of beta game
MAYBE IF YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT BETA MEANS
LOL guess this make Japanese 360 players that bought the 360 because of this game even more pissed :P
MAYBE IF THEY HAVE THE MATURITY OF A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD
your sir is fucking retarded
I think Namco is catching up to KyoAni's Master Troll status.
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED
YEAH THEY DID THIS PURELY TO PISS OFF XBOX FANBOYS YOU NAILED THAT ON THE FUCKING HEAD
I would kill them. Good thing I don't buy their crap.
I PERSONALLY KILL EVERY COMPANY THAT DOUBLE DIPS
FUCKING COLLECTORS EDITION DVD COMING OUT A MONTH LATER AND COSTING MORE ILL KILL THE FUCKERS
Talk about a kick in the balls...
TALK ABOUT A KICK TO MY INTELLIGENCE
so so glad I never bought Xbox ToV. These stories would have pissed me off....
ITS CALLED DOUBLE DIPPING YA TARDS
At least their polite.
THEY'RE
I lol'd. :D
The price better fucking drop faster than Eternal Sonata's.
Not gonna pay anything more than $30 for an old game (and this coming from someone who never owned a 360)
Goddamn, Eternal Sonata for the PS3 still costs 70 euros here, while the 360 one is 25.
No.Xbox version is 0$.Torrent.
Filthy pirate!!!!! >_< ( said by another torrent user;P )
Wow getting trolled by Namco.
Anyway there's an old saying of any publicity is good publicity.
They're probably trolling so that it can get the word out to people.
HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE
Now we dont need trolls on the forums... even the developers Troll on the people! XD
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Played it and beat it. I think if I had a PS3 I would buy it since I didn't do so for the Xbox360. Not that great of a game but perhaps it would warrant a PS3 title but, then again, there ARE the PS3 exclusives worth mentioning like MGS4 and playing through the Resistance series.
With that said, I wish they would care more about making another "Tales of" game so that this nonsense would dissipate forever. What happened to another Ace Combat? I love that series so much and have yet to hear news of another one in the works. /end rant
your grammar is atrocious -.-
anon vs anon, which nobody will win?
My guess is anon.
This game features Loli Butt Pirate so what else is new?
Luckily, I don't like those Crapy games.
I'll sue then for fraud
ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB
you too
Ahahhahah this is such a good troll
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID
forget ace combat and go with loli aerobatics chapionship... new thought:
Magical girl loli's flying in the air firing magical missles of death toward enemy fighters
-this thought was inspired by ace combat!-
It seems like Namco is trying to earn the Master Troll status like KyoAni.
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED
well im a beta tester but i dont really care...
im still going to get it for the PS3...when it releases in the US...
just like what i did for oppai gaiden 2...
LEARN WHAT BETA MEANS DUMBFUCK
"but, its a sony"
What's the point talking about Vesperia PS3 port when there is no word yet that it's going to be released outside of Japan?
For all the ps3 fan boys out there i have one thing to ask.
WHEN IS IT COMING TO THE USA.
Looks to me like a another Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix + to me
2 hours past never?
Yea, that seems to be the most likely case.
This just made my day :D
I just lol'd at that "As a result," for some reason.
"As a result, we think Microsoft can go fuck themselves or at least stop bitching and try to do something to improve the state of their Japanese sales, other than steal titles from PS that is..."
+ 1
TREY 4 LIFE!
+1
well anyone in their right mind thought ToV was going to stay exclusive must have been delusional since it is a JRPG and japan is dominated by the wii and ps3.IF you 360 fans want to blame anyway direct it towards M$ since they clearly knew this was going to happen but said nothing of it like every other xbox "exclusive" are actually timed and also your fanbase for not supporting JRPGs enough.
YOU RRoD 360 BETA TESTERS FAGS SURE GOT TOLD.
YEAH 4CHAN IS HILARIOUS BRO
just shut up
Why is this shit still making "new"?
Get ya ass in gear and provide us with what we come here for, and that's not a Sony fanboy making a tit of himself.
Thanks.
Good thing I don't buy shit from them anymore.
uh
ps3 graphics are worse sadly
so unless you care about a stupid annoying loli pirate and some fanservice outfits its a let down
let down?
loli pirate plus tons of added content > fucking graphic difference thats barely visible with magnifying lens
srsly, some people nowadays care so much about graphics, they would probably wait all night in front of a store to buy a game that renders a 3d model of a giant penis on the screen, just because it runs at native 1080p, with lots of anti-aliasing and bloom effects.
So PS3 players are playing Xbox 360 game then? lol
Considering sales, it is more like 360 players beta testing a PS3 game. Literally.
YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING MORE ASININE THAN YOUTUBE
I hope the next topic will be about it getting released out of japan.
Worry....worry.....
In a future dictionary or suchlike there should be an entry like this:
Adding insult to injury - see Tales of Vesperia for Xbox 360.
Thank you for the Beta Test.
"Replace “Xbox 360″ with “beta” and “players” with “testers” for full effect."
Actually, for the real 'full effect' I'd say you should replace "PS3" with "final" or "release" as well. It seems to read much better that way.
This is an example of a company doing something that is not inherently wrong, but with poor execution and foresight. Now we all think they are idiots.
YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I DON'T WANT TO PUNCH IN THE FACE, THANK YOU.
ALTHOUGH I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THEY EXECUTED IT POORLY
Kelso: BURN!
What you mean the added elements like patty? The ones that were ALREADY ON THE FUCKING DISC?
Namco, stop treating us like dumbfuckwits. We see what you are doing.
Also, can an editor change Estelle's face for trollface?
YOU KNOW COUNTLESS OTHER COMPANIES HAVE DONE STUFF EXACTLY LIKE THAT RIGHT
don't think of it as beta testing, think of it as advance public preview.
OR YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, STOP CALLING IT THINGS THAT IT ISN'T
NAM-CO
Girls don't play games for very obvious reasons... The bitch is holding the controller backwards!
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6636/femalegamers.jpg
shitbox doesn't deserve better
LOL TOTALLY XD
Well, THAT'S a good way to convince your customers you're playing straight with them: openly admit you were using them as testers and you expect them to buy the game twice. It's a good thing I don't give a flying fuck about the Tales series any more because I'm damned if I'd buy it on PS3.
THEY DIDN'T TEST A PRODUCT, THEY BOUGHT IT AND PLAYED IT. ARE YOU DENSE.
NAAM-KO
Good going Bamco. Now if you wil. Please make the PS3 version of Tekken 6 runs 60fps at 1080p as it was originally announced. =D
God you're stupid.
It's not a beta, it's an ALPHA.
Beta in the game industry means FEATURE-COMPLETE.
HOW CAN YOU BE SO SMART AND YET SO FUCKING RETARDED AT THE SAME TIME
my favorite sankaku complex news ever as far as today!!!!
The moral behind the story is to always wait for the PS3 version. I bought the limited edition of Star Ocean 4 before getting a 360 just to play it, and now I found out they are releasing the PS3 version in February so I sold it and will just wait for the PS3 version instead.
Also not having a blu-ray reader in the 360 kinda sucks with all the annoying discswapping that is needed.
As if waiting 1 year to play the same thing at full price is better than playing it when it comes out. By the time ps3 gets it another game for another console is already in the works. This one being Graces, which looks like it will rape the shit out of Vesperia.
When will Microsoft understand that in Japan, Sony and Nintendo reign supreme?
In the USA as well:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/20/ps3-dominates-wii-xbox-360-in-usa/
UHHHHH
Well this is nice and all... but where's my US release?
Well, for all people complaining about the "beta test", get used to it. Ports of a game with new content happens a lot, it has been like that for the last what? 20 or so years? Its interesting to see people even talking about suing namco, but they defend their beloved micro$oft to the death, even tho they have been through 3 hardware revisions to fix a problem that should never have existed in the first place.
HEY LOOK SOMEBODY THAT ISN'T RETARDED ALTHOUGH YOU DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR GETTING CALLED A FANBOY BY IDIOTS
Wow you're real clever. Adding that dollar sign to the company name, but still failing to realize "$ony" does the same thing.
Let's put it in retard terms.
A russian man will obviously say "There is nothing wrong with russia, fuck america."
A US man will say "There is nothing wrong with america, fuck russia."
Yet both are retards who are ignorant of their own country's wrong doings. Wii would be china, overpopulated and shitty quality.
XBOBX360 BETA MACHINE NOOB !
I greatly enjoyed Beta testing the copy I borrowed off my friend for free.
Now release it in the states, Namco, so I can pay $60 for the full game.
No doubt it will do better on PS3 in the US too.
Oh yeah, it's gonna do so well with modern warfare 2 around the corner.
I say that they should just allow microsoft to release the new content of the ps3 version as a downloadable update on the xbox... Of course that would kill the ps3 versions sales so hence it won't happen guaranteed. And if it did Microsoft would prolly label it an expansion and charge 20$ for it. I'd enjoy replaying the game with the new stuff (or stuff removed from the original) but I'm not willing to buy a new system to try it! So jaa it really irritates me x3
I AM TOTALLY UNCONVINCED THAT HAVING A DLC OPTION WOULD DECREASE THE MONEY THEY MAKE, I THINK IT'S MORE A MATTER OF THE DEALS THEY HAVE MADE WITH SONY AND MICROSOFT BUT EH.
Old shit is old. Move on.
“Beta testers often complained ‘why aren’t these parts voiced?’, so when making the PS3 version we first set about improving the voicing … As a result, the entire main scenario became fully voiced.”
“We’d be delighted if those who played the beta version would play the full version too. Of course the same goes for those playing for the first time.”
“We made a lot of changes we think them beta testers would be sure to appreciate.”
“There are a lot of elements from the beta version which were improved, so please give it a try.”
“Based on the feedback so kindly provided by the beta testers, we added a lot of additional elements.”
According to the Jewish Agency for Israel, as of 2007 there were 13.2 million MILFS worldwide, 5.4 million of whom lived in Israel, 5.3 million in the United States, and the remainder distributed in communities of varying sizes around the world;
MILFS ARE JEWS YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
ninja gaidan has been doing this stuff for a while now
this is one reason to not hate xbox360 and its users. i don't really care for them but in this case, we need to thank them.
YOU ARE STUPID AS SHIT
ok, i'm sick of this topic but still...
that is one condescending little press release.
FIX: "There are a lot of elements from the Xbox 360 version which were improved, so please give it a try... SUCKERRRRRS!!!”
I dont ever recall this flame war with the NES/SNES era. We were lucky we got descent arcade ports just so we wouldn't have to Dump our lunch moneys in the Arcade, but now days.. WOW.. Beta this. Beta that.. This much Resolution textures, that much resolution textures.. Voice, no voice.. WTF exclusives, timed exclusive.. Exclusive DL's, Extra Armor.. Blah Blah Blah.. People dont seem to enjoy their games any more and get their money's worth. I'm still playing Oblivion for 360 and Metal gear solid for PS3 and other games i have not completed so i think i'm getting my money's worth with every purchase. I'm enjoy'n the experience but for you trolls out there nitpicking about a port of a game a year later then show me some sort of financial loss of your stock investment in Microsoft, or the company who made the game cuz that's the only reason u should even be bitching about.
UCKING IDIOTS STOP TOSSING "BETA" AROUND LIKE THIS EVERYBODY IS RETARDED AS SHIT
fuck off you dumb shit and quit spamming the comment section with reply's
i dont get it why release a better version of a game on an inferior system? these features shoulda been for 360 hands down
This anonymous with no life and who answers with the caps-lock continually on, really has a problem. And lol half his post saying to other people "you are stupid" "you are an idiot" and other mesmerizing words like that.
Oh! yes let's not forget. BETA, BETA, BETA, BETA, BETA!!!!! lol. Better stop before he gets a heart attack.
What I wanna say is: developers have a full right to fuck with players as much as they wish. You're just a fools for thinking they must refund you.
no thank you namco 4 bringing this game in my life and i will check this out on the ps3 when i can afford it =D
Thanks Xbots, for testing the beta on your crappy console.
We PS3-users shall now wait until the GOOD version is out. =)
Haha this is great. Poor 360 owners, so stupid. So sad.
why was this published in the official ps3 guidebook?
Replace "PS3 version" with "late to the party version of with 60$ MSRP when you can buy the original for 14.99$ in bargain bins"
Oh, and replace "buyers" with "idiots"
it's hilarious bullshit like this that makes me glad I don't own ANY console. The minute the Internet and hard drives became available you knew they were going to fuck the goat - patches for consoles, firmware updates, etc they're all bullshit. A console should JUST WORK. 24/7.
I play my video games on a PC, where upgrades and progress are a known factor, and when any company tried shenanigans like this, they'd be demolished by piracy.
Please do the world a favor and stop it with the fanboy articles, you know that title was made for hits and I'm sick of the shamelessness in it.
But people like fanboy articles. Just look how many comments they posted.
Where can I find the Tales of Vesperia Final Edition guide's scans?
Thanks.
for some reason i have the sense of they planned to put a update in xbox live...if the data of the pirate girl are in thr disc...
I love the comments section :D
XBox 360 users got PWNED
Wow that was a bad move