Konkatsu: “We Can’t Find Men to Marry All These Women”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Oct 17, 2009 15:41 JST
- Tags: 2ch, Dating, Marriage, Mass Media, Misandry, Relationships
The recent boom in “konkatsu,” parties to help those seeking the ideal marriage partner meet, has run into trouble: reportedly, women always outnumber men by a large margin at these events.
Previously these events had been characterised by many men seeking desirable brides, but now they are said to consist chiefly of women hunting the ideal husband of their dreams, with a particular emphasis on his earning potential.
“When we organise these events, we have no trouble finding women, but can never find enough men.”
“Those using these services mostly never find a partner through them.”
The canny marriage brokers running the services, who naturally charge large fees and utilise complex contracts, are increasingly the subject of formal complaints by their customers, as they often fail to deliver any satisfactory marriage partners yet invariably expect to be paid.
2ch’s response is as interesting, and scathing, as ever:
“How the parasites weep because they can’t find a host!”
“Fools. What do they expect, running a ‘boy ranch‘ like that?”
“Why don’t they marry some of the other spare women?”
“Seems there are a few less idiot men about.”
“The only men who can take part are those with incomes over $60k. No wonder they are short.”
“Konkatsu: the new highway robbery.”
“More mass media trash. In reality, konkatsu are still not popular at all.”
“Gentlemen seeking wives, there is nothing so foolish as marriage.
Women in their twenties and thirties today are desperately trying to solve their ‘how can I find a man to leech off of?’ problem.
If you marry, in an instant you will be condemned to 30 years of forced labour. It doesn’t matter how much effort you put in or how much you make, you’ll end up with a few dollars a day for yourself.
If you ever want to buy anything, you’ll have to seek permission with bowed head from your wife.
And they’ll just reject your requests anyway.
What’s left will go on the woman and the kid without so much as a word of thanks.
That’s the reality of marriage.
Rice:
Then: Took 1 hour three times a day using a pot
Now: Press a switch on a rice cooker
Washing:
Then: It all had to be done by hand with a tub and a washboard
Now: Press a switch on a washing machine
Bathing:
Then: Had to start and tend a fire to heat the water
Now: Press a switch on a heater
Cooking:
Then: Everything had to be cooked by hand
Now: You can get as much as you want of anything at a supermarket
Household chores are very light work now. With convenience stores and the Internet you have even less need of a woman.
Marriage and a wife used to be ‘necessities’ to a man. Now they are nothing more than ‘life’s bad debt.’
Men! There’s no reason whatsoever left to put up with the selfish demands of these women and their insistence on marriage!”
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The poor can't find women because they want money
Women don't realize that men see women who want money as whores.
Lol they should make like a huge company and just start paring up anybody who's at the ages of 25+ and wants to get married. No not talking internet dating or speed dating, you go inside the building fill up some papers tell them the type your looking for and if they find it BINGO!!!! match em up it's a done deal
The whole problem is that they have extreme expectations in their type. The customers will be hearing a lot of "well fuck this was the best we could do..."
Meh, I can't stand sleeping alone...
Need a girl sleeping next to me for a good night sleep :)
btw, pussy feel much better than hand!
If I have to keep in shape and stay good looking then you better damn well GET OFF YOUR FAT ASS AND MAKE ME MY MONEY!!!!
You can't have it all either.
Women want money, men want eye candy and sex. You've got "whore" for women but no demening name for yourselves. It takes 2 too tango.
Hypocrites....who don't want to get off their ass....all of you.
make your money yourself <_<"
if we're working, we can just pay for our eyecandy and sex.
Well, I dont actually think as harshly as that, if I get with someone I'll just make sure that my money is in my control. So I wont be handing anything over xD
Anon @ 2:00 = EPIC FAIL
Looks someone needs to learn a lesson on not leaving the kitchen.
girl sleeping next to you doesn't necessarily translate to a good night's sleep... she could snore, grind her teeth, toss and turn, steal the covers...
or even fart at your face
how do you sleep that she can fart at your face?
fell asleep during 69?
so ITT we're assuming only men have jobs?
“How the parasites weep because they can’t find a host!”
This ^_^
Fatimmortal is a Dick Slap...
I second that motion!!!!!!!!!!!!
Men think of them as whores because they are. That said I can't blame Japanese men Japanese women sound opressive. They should realy get a prenub and every time the wife is bitchy be like DIVORCE! Then it wouldn't be so bad and 2chan wouldn't have to be full of gay people.
suck it
fatimmortal is a Dick Slap
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Look like fatimmortal got himself a stalker
another valid point provided by that list for the article - gives them more time and energy to bitch and yammer
amen to that brother, men still want to have brides who aren't so darn materialistic and enjoys what simplicity has to offer. I do hope they realize this.
And with that said gents resume your fapping over mio and miku! ( >.<')
exactly, enjoy the little things in life. you don't know if or when you'll lose the chance to.
Women don't realize that men see women who want money as competition.
fixed.
Nice try, but no. It was already correct. Women who EARN money, could be considered WELCOME competition. Women who WANT money are lazy WHORES. Did I make this clear enough for you? Or should I write up a chart?
Go ahead, make my day.
Btw, lazy whore is still an occupation. How's the job market working out for you?
Butthurt much?
Women who work for their money is a-okay.
Women who leech money belong to the gutter!
What? How is just wanting money a form competition? Well maybe if they add some jobs to that ambition. But then they are still only competition if they work in the same field and for the same company.
I think you are just saying bullshit. Make your case straight.
Just think a moment about how much a home for two costs. If a men is poor you can't afford that besides that men don't want poor woman too.
Clearly only the very top earners in society can afford to live indoors and eat regular meals!
this is true. i have never heard of a "house for one" -.- how much space do 2 people need? stupid feminist pig
where do you live?
africa maybe?
Why the hell would *anyone* want a poor partner? Once trash, always trash. :/
The problem isn't about 'poor', it's the ridiculously high monetary wealth of men that the women are seeking. They are all seeking the high class men, not the middle class men. And just how many men earn that kind of money anyway?
Pretty much, good luck trying to marry millionaires! They are going to need it!
If you decide to get married, you're better off finding someone you can get along well with, and who makes close to the same amount of money.
Instead of earning $60K and getting a lazy partner, You can both work to Earn around $40K each. Less laziness and more money that way. Also, with 2 people working, if one gets laid off, the marriage has less chance of failing due to finances.
That....is a very good idea. Don't forget the 'take turns caring for the house' because the home still has to be kept clean and there are kids to raise (though nurseries are there to help take care of them until they reach elementary school).
Problem is, however, the women just want to be lazy. The men might also want to be lazy. Both are either trying to leech off each other, or avoid each other because of the (remarkably high) chances of landing a leech!
The slight issue of that is that women in Japan earn like 65% of one a man does for the equivalent job. Which means she's going to be working a whole lot damn harder for that $40K.
Not that I'm defending the gold-diggers hunting for millionaires. Both ought to work, but one has to realize that a middle-class man and a middle-class woman make rather different salaries.
thats why i have been going to Amsterdam every month getting laid. sure i have to pay for it but its up front. she's the prostitute i'm the horny client. simple i pay and get to fuck her brains out. non of that how are you today shit, or do you wanna go out for a romantic dinner? fuck that straight up 100 euros and i got my self a 18 year old thai bitch willing to do what EVER i want for a hour. and she actually LOOKS GOOD, compared to the horse faced gold digging bitches these days. PROSTITUTION IS THE KEY GENTLEMAN! sure it cost money but so does a wife that is 10x more in the end.
Amsterdam is the bomb! You can fuck your way around the world there as long as you got the cash.
“Why don’t they marry some of the other spare women?”
And then they can run a sexy website. It is the perfect plan. :3
Such depressing things they say about marriage... How much do you need to press men to make them such a weaklings...
Depressing? Wake up, it's reality.
weaklings? I call it strength to be able to stand against the societal norm of "Get married, have kids, slave away at job till retirement, die".
When you press men, it doesn't make them weaklings, it's the opposite really. And they say such depressing things because marriage is depressing.
Tell me I'm married. Perhaps I will have a secret vasectomy while my wife has her period. I HATE childs.
She'll be wondering why you can't do anything for a week and are hanging around the house with an ice pack on your balls. Best tell her you're visiting family for a week and have it done.
"Childs"? Why do you hate grammar? What has grammar ever done to you? :(
19:43 fails at joke...
Grammar is a bitch, especially when you aren't writing in your native language.
By the way I have a high resistance to pain, unless my balls are involved. It is as painful as people say? I heard there are different vasectomy techniques; perhaps some aren’t as painful as others?
how depressing :(
Your motto "Horney, I'm home"
I didn't want to respond because I am too drunk even though i can type very well... these women leech and when they cant find anyone to leech from they complain that there is nobody to leech from oh well lol i'm going to bed
Here's one for ya EN
oh.i should join it quickly.darn japanese is soo poor,their money always sucked by higher class society
This topic speaks nothing but the truth. XP
Correction, it's a fact
Japanese women seriously need to learn from American women. How most of us can get by without needing to leech off men.. sometimes and sadly. It's the men leeching off of US.. not that i'm complaining, really. Anyway my point is, Japanese women need to learn how to be independent like American women. Or be the head of the household with male harems..
Or have relationships be a two way street like it should be ideally.
Not just the man paying the bills so the woman can cheat on him while he's off at work.
Agreed
fuck my life...
Actually, the problem is... Women are becoming TOO independent in Japan. In fact, though some are looking for marriage, most young Japanese women "realize" that they are much more free without a husband and child around. The average marriage age in Japanese women has increased significantly in relation to this.
Many young Japanese women have found more luxury in staying with their parents until they are forced to marry or kicked out...
Or they get their own professional jobs and try to earn for themselves (if they're not as interested in the field of study for a full-time job, they will usually go to part-time jobs--that way, they have more free time to spend their money and enjoy themselves).
So they can get by without leeching off of men, for sure, but... they still have high hopes for the day that they can quit their jobs and stay at home with a child (more free time when child is at school).
That is, once they decide to finally settle down with a man... if they can find one that fits their expectations... >.>;;;
There are gold-digging women in America, Elle. They're the type who marry, wait until something 'better' comes along, and then divorce the guy they're with and still get alimony, even though they're still working and now living with another guy who also works.
That's not personal experience.... but I have worked with people who've been through the ringer that way.
Miroku74, u a lawyer?
Naw.... I wish I had their kind of money.
I'm talking a colleague who was a well-paid *custodian* in the local school district. A 'blue-collar' man, going through treatment for cancer, and his wife gives him his walking papers durring the months long treatments..... and divorces him. She walked off with one of his co-workers after the papers went through. Now... how was my colleague to know she hadn't been stepping out at him before the divorce? o_0
THAT'S my reason for being cynical..... not lawyering, nor anything else. And that's not just one example I could bring up, just a prominent one.
like a kick in the balls... with spiked shoes...
Well, it's bizarre for me, I have immediate family who have been through that, as well as having relatives who are gold-diggers themselves. Really major ones. My friends have gone through similar experiences.
I do have a number of close female friends who aren't like that at all so obviously doesn't apply to all women, as much as I would like to think so. But at least it's that quality that I'm still friends with them. On the other hand it's hard to get into their pants, not that I've tried of course.
i have a glass of Rhum 'n Coke and I make a toast for ya buddy: To lost virtues
maybe you show your pic collection of them first...
Not that you have one of course...
Nice point. Plus Asian men are less likely to marry such a woman. You must first put yourself into the Asian context before throwing in an example which totally do not fit the situation.
Those I don't consider women, we call them b***ches here in america.
Thanks to Women's Lib this is the New Construct of Marriage:
For Men: Marriage equals LARGE DEBT!!! and a surrender of Half of Everything - no matter how small.
For Women: Marriage equals Getting a 'personal financial wage earner' and emotional slave you can bully around and maybe trade sex for Favors....or use his kids as Insurance or Leverage.
*In short, Women...you blew it!: As More women decline and become 'Deterioraring Assets" Men will have already learned how to live & survive without you. As this newer generation of Men will have NO overhead and not have to spend money on Women who will NOT appreciate them it will be Women who become the 'Lonely Bachalors" and Men who have all the Financial security......and what will the 'Cougars' have left to trade the men for that 'security'?.....Nothing!!! You can thank your P.C. Male Hating Feminists for this Ladies.
If the 20 & 30 something year old Men are already on to you....You've got alot to be concerned about - The Clock is Ticking!!! It boils down to Men have always known what we want!!! Women never know what they want till they have everything - then still want what doesn't exist!!!....You Know what Men want and you're Jealous that "we are that simple!"
how come that there still exist an anon or two who´s not only writing bullshit?
YOU SIR are definitely a wise (insert title/gender here)
seriously, good show!
you are so fucking right. i can live my life so damn fine without a women as I actually enjoy washing, cleaning, and cooking (actual cooking). but if i find a women who's not materialistic and I care about, i'd want to be with her over being alone.....
A guy can hope right?
Just as our biology dictates that "we are that simple!" Women biology usually dictates that they don't really know what they want. I feel sorry for them in that respect. Never knowing exactly what they want. How many of them would be happy with the simpler things and eventually exude an ethereal inner beauty but don't know it because society tells them otherwise.
hey that's a decent idea,...a harem would be very nice...
did you even THINK about how much each of them would cost?
I´m pretty sure you cant afford an Harem...
Men have become WEAKLINGS.
Its sad that the times, where men just fuck up their women, so she will just stfu.
But now instead, womens marry and want a fucking whole of everything and still dont have enough, because those fucking WHORES still need MOAR Money, how fucking sad.
If you Marry TODAY, your DOOMED.
Because all what they want is a rich man to pose.
and i thought marriage is a happy thing.... Shit... time to rethink my priorities.
be careful when you tell your occupation and annual salary.
In other words, if you're a bus boy, bullshit your way into bed?
into her bed with her or your own bed alone is the question to ask.
Marriage is a bed of roses. A bed of roses still bearing thorns! Sometimes, you get to stop and appreciate the colors and the smell, but most of the time, you are getting pricked!
"Marriage is a bed of roses."
Except all the roses have plant rot and bugs all over them. And they're also dead. And on fire.
Not to mention getting pricked by the thorns. All the time.
Once agauçin women show the garbage they are!
Men are more garbage since they don't want poor woman too even if they are themself poor.
I've never heard that before. But I'll admit, the only women I would marry would have to make 3 times my yearly salary. Being an engineer really doesnt pay that well.
Then become a combat engineer, the uniform will impress the women, you'll get more cash being a military man plus you'll contribute to your country.
i would marry a poor woman if she had a good heart (i.e. not japanese... jk jk) good people make u want to do nice things for them thus ur comment leaves me in depair
p.s. was there a men not marrying poor women acticle i missed?
wth?
That's NOT true. I would take a poor girl if I was attracted to her. She's atleast understand the value of a dollar and be frugal with joint purchases.
Poor girls are often the most sensitive & giving to others cause they have empathy for those who has less- Unless they're a GOLD DIGGING Cunt!
That doesn't make sense. If you're poor,usually you'll find someone richer than you regardless of gender. And a poor woman usually will find someone rich because she experienced being poor and she wants to change her status.
Actually, it is the same for men also. Why would you want a woman who will not change you for the better? All of us want the good things in life. Who doesn't?
This is the point of why Japanese men don't want to marry. They don't get anything good as the women get from them. They want to improve their status themselves also, not just only women. If you get nothing in return, why should you risk it?
If men gets something useful in return as much as women will receive (in short, balance between these two genders), then there will be no problem and this argument will never take place.
Your logic is very much incorrect. To tell you frankly, all of us are garbage because we want what is beneficial for us even if we severe ties with others. It is human nature.
Depends, if they are poor but are striving to improve their situation and not leech my money, then they're ok.
And I'd rather marry a poor woman who knows the value of companionship than a "independent" or "strong" woman who's also happens to be a leech.
"Men are more garbage since they don't want poor woman too even if they are themself poor."
Wow, way to make statements that have no connection to reality. I don't know where you're from, but here in the real world it's women who are the ones who do most of the "financial" discrimination when it comes to deciding who they think is marriage material and who isn't. When somebody thinks of the 'gold digger' stereotype, it isn't an image of a poor MAN that jumps into their head. Women have always been the ones who were most concerned with their prospective partners $$$.
I am seeing way more of the world as you do. It is a fact that nobody wants a poor person that will always stay poor in any way because all humans are selfish and think first of themself before they think of others, so they prefer somebody that wouldn't cost them lots of money. I see it everyday, I read it everyday and I hear it everyday
"I am seeing way more of the world as you do."
I am getting the distinct impression that you don't understand that there's more to the world than is contained within the 4 walls of your room.
"It is a fact that nobody wants a poor person that will always stay poor in any way because all humans are selfish and think first of themself before they think of others, so they prefer somebody that wouldn't cost them lots of money. I see it everyday, I read it everyday and I hear it everyday"
fixed version:
"Yeah, women have been marrying for money since the beginning of time, but I don't want to admit I'm wrong so I'll wax philosophical about human nature and hope you don't notice I'm changing the subject."
Ayu, your argument crumbles with one word: Pet.
An entirely master-dependant existence with no financial capital.
According to your argument, pets would not exist in this world. However, they do.
Now to bring this into the context of the topic. If a person wants the benefits of being a financial dependent then they should act like one.
Realisation is needed that their relationship is not one of equality but one of the subordinate and master.
The only relationship between equals is one of friendship.
*goes back to 'watching kittens frolic'*
my girlfriend is poor and comes from a poor family, i still love her but she does make me pay for everything lol :/
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Seems like women shouldn't complain if they couldn't find the men of their dream cuz they know everything can be done by machine now days except love. Essentially, us men are buying whores for a lifetime.
Renting professional whores for a lifetime is cheaper than getting married.
+100
+ Infinity!!!!
And all the sexually transmitted diseases they will make you happy with. ^_^
He said professional, meaning the procedure will be conducted professionally. And that includes testing as well.
condoms are free in the UK :)
So's sex counseling in the UK, or so I hear.... doesn't mean anyone takes them while going out the door, does it? o_0
"And all the sexually transmitted diseases they will make you happy with. ^_^"
If you're that scared of STD's then you best just stay away from women altogether. Did you know that 25% of TEENAGE GIRLS have an STD:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/science/12std.html
And the infection rates just keep going up as the girls get older. Face it, a prostitute isn't much more of a risk than your typical hookup in a club or bar. In fact, in places where prostitution is legal and prostitutes are required to be regularly tested, prostitutes are probably safer.
you win
And then they ask why do we prefer 2D
because of this?
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/star4ucker/girlfriends.jpg
Maybe because your one of the guys who can't even get a real woman even if you tried.
Shit, where I live I can open a phone book, check the escorts section, and get *lots* of real women pronto with a simple phone call. They're hotter than the thick-thighed tramps you'll find in clubs, and they put out for way less than a girlfriend once you factor in all the extra time you have to waste and BS you have to put up with just to get down a typical female's pants. So, yeah, getting women isn't a problem - but I still prefer pr0nz most of the time as it's much cheaper and pussy doesn't feel *that* much better than my hand. Women think their cunts are made out of platinum - but they're wrong.
Ugghh.. Shana's ponytail is so badly shooped..
Now using a better version.
Every time I read an article like this, I lose a little bit more faith in humanity.
that's easy, don't put your faith where it's going to lose. Put your faith where you'll gain more: In a bank account where interests rates are high.
Wise words, Brother!
Even if they find a partner who knows what they'll do later on to them. Cheating comes to mind.
And some stories I've read about womens fantasies makes me wonder why they even try looking for them (a hubby) if some of them are just going to end up doing the things that they usually do out of temptations or lust (or because "he was to nice to say no to").
Ya, cheating is a BIG problem. I should know, it broke my family apart. When I was but a wee lad my father was in the Navy. He worked hard to provide for this family so that my mother wouldn't have to work, she still worked part time just to get outa the house and have some extra spending money, but that's beside the point.
Being that he was in the Navy my father would have to leave for deployment periodically. He left four times for months to years at a time, and every time without fail my mother would go out and find a boy toy to "help keep her company" cause "[my] Father [wasn't] there to state her needs." Now the worst part about it was she wasn't good at hiding it at all, and sometimes she wouldn't even try. So you have an eight year old watching his mother cheat on his father just for shits and giggles basically. Then putting on a happy loving face when your father returns and pretending nothing ever happened.
Eventually my father found out and they got a divorce. I ended up staying with my mother because she had made up a BS story about my dad being abusive and had a restraining order put on him. Now she's married again to her last boyfriend and he is a moron. I've never told my old man that I was aware of my mothers infidelity, I don't really know how that would go.
But you know when you watch this kinda stuff happen for over eight years of your life it really twists your sense of the opposite sex, and makes trusting people difficult. You always have that stigma in the back of your mind. If I don't pay her enough attention she'll find someone else. Now I know that this can go both ways. One of my friends has cheated on his girlfriend a few times, but most of those were one night stands. They are still together BTW.
Imagine growing up Catholic and having your mother escape the marriage under the pre-tense of being gay! going through elementary school & high school with consolers and such knowing this- Then you found out: It was all a lie. She was never gay. She justed wanted out of the marriage and didn't like men.
My father later ran across a women who used to work with my mother and she was part of my father's prayer group (or something) and she told him stories about how my mother would complain about how she couldn't get away from her kids, after she divorced my father.
The late 70's women lib & Phil Donahue destroyed my mother, I haven't spoken to her since 2003 and I could care less if and when she dies.
i feel you man
drink to the sorrows
let's all fear the aggresive Anon...
stfu
either way it's men not meeting womens standards, and men not caring if they don't.
either take what you can or shut it... life isn't a charity wheel, either do it or don't stop whining if the "market" is shallow, shallow cuz of the "shallow" women whining.
i'm single 'cuz the women i run across are close to that bracket of japanese women, and i live in the USA.
follow your heart not your wallet, otherwise you'll be chasing your ass like a dog
unless you are one
Guys who say stuff along the lines of "follow your heart not your wallet" will be the first shoot down a fat, homely bitch.
dude, most guys would shoot down a fat, homely bitch, but that is besides the point, that fat homely bitch could still be a gold digging whore, and you'd never see it coming
I'm a guy and one of my best friends since college is a 'fat, homely bitch'. She and I have been hanging out for almost 8 years. Sure, I don't have any interest in her romantically, but I've never shot her down. I've done lots of stuff with her like going to movies, con's, LAN parties, etc. and we've both always had a good time. For the past year and a half, she's been the DM for our campaign group and she's really well liked by everyone there (8 people total). She's no gold digger, either. She's got a good job (she's a DBA) and I've never once seen her sit around feeling sorry for herself like some of the women posting here are doing. Maybe that's why she's actually *got* a steady boyfriend and has for over 2 years. Yeah, she's ugly and so is her boyfriend. But you know what else? She's happy and people genuinely *like* her. How many of the bitter gold diggers trying to justify their greed here can say that?
Make a 'based on the true story' movie to capitalise on their fleeting happiness.
You're actually named Lance? You're already a bigger tool than most of us!
With all your STFU and stuff one might suggest you are whining!! You actually sound self-hating just my anonymous opinion.
No one needs to fear me it's just an opinion that has ground to stand on. Once they get the security they're left to ride out their fantasies of adultery like it's just an everyday thing akin to food. Serious mature women will look for other qualities and that's just all there is to it.
I started to think about marriage at around 14~15yo, now I'm almost 39yo and still single, I guess I turn out a trully GENIUS !
Boku wa 天才 !
yeah but are you rich?
why are you asking. you a gold diger?
wtf, my post didn't showed up?
Nevermind, it was a huge delay! o.O
Japan: A country of panda people!
In the future if we want to preserve the japanese nationality we're going to have to lock a 3 japanese women in a cage with 1 japanese man to have the next generation of japanese...
Right after I post this 50k japanese men would voluteer for the program >_>
You wish
It's like Guilty Gear becoming truth. Now I want my own Dizzy.
Comments are bugged, this was in response to the guy who talked about preserving the japanese like they do with pandas.
Now it corrected itself... bizarre.
“How the parasites weep because they can’t find a host!”
OMFG, I can't stop lol at ths one!
So one minute japanese women can't find the right man, now they can't find any?
Nah, they're still looking for mr Charming-Gates...
KARMA
Re-name half of the gathering events Yuri and I bet tons of Men show up.
What's happening to Japan right now is feminism gone south and then east.
No wonder they're flocking to Japan like flies to a hunk of rotting meat.
Look at the big mess that Capitalism is.
You're right! The Soviets showed us that communism was much better - until their empire fell apart...
I don't see anything wrong with this, guess guys here are all misogynists anyway.
(to chris from up top)
how little you really understand,...when proper enticement and encouragement are involved from a "loving woman" the husband will strengthen,..but at today's rates the women of this day and age are too materialistic, oppressive, and don't really care what happens to anything that doesn't have a direct effect on them. (well the vast majority that is)
Conclusion: Why bother marrying when you can spend your money dating young women till your 60s?
“Why don’t they marry some of the other spare women?”
Do want! :-3 Delicious IRL yuri...
Holy crap... relatively speaking, these 2-channers still live in the country with the most subservient meek women (outside of Islamic Republics)... they should stop bitching, take a shower, make themselves presentable, and actually try to be slightly enticing to the "3d" once in a while.
They will never be enticing without the kind of money for the women to leech from! They don't care about the men, they care about the bank account!
I honestly think that's just an excuse given by ill mannered boobs who couldn't charm their way out of a paper bag.
And since when is $60k a year so hard to achieve? Maybe invest in something other than 40 sets of Mio shimapan cereal bowls...
underachieving pussies are underachievers
Why in the hell should I want to go out and earn a $60K income for the sole purpose of attracting gold diggers? Enjoy your leeches. Don't expect us to cry for you after you've been bled dry.
And who here even earns an approximate of 5k per month? The standard was around 2k!
Doesn't the average salary man earn roughly 40k a year in Japan?
They're asking for at least a 20k increase in your annual revenue--which is bullshit and unrealistic.
40k a year is decent and enough to raise a family. These women just wanted MORE than that so they can afford to buy new Louis Vuttons every month!
No, it is not enaugh in japan special since woman always lose their job when they get pregnant and after pregnancy nobody wants to hire a woman with a little child so there would be only one person working in the family.
Ayu damn how i hate this shitty capitalism.
It's all about the money for those employers.
It's far more worse then i thought.
Not even different in my country so they learn us to not mention children and social status since it's only important to sell your working force.
People with children still get work.But all these things are too hard on the women,
They just want to make people work,they don't care about the children -_-.
also some women workers in my country have to sign an agreement that they won't have a child for 2 years.
Sounds like a law needs to be passed to prevent that and a social safety net installed.
In the US we have some very tough laws against such discrimination.
The be honest it's not the 1950s anymore and single income families just are no longer practical at least not with our modern concepts of an idea lifestyle.
Maybe due to inflation, or maybe it's because we have to have so much crap any more and crap costs money.or maybe it's due to out of control real estate prices.
Of course here in the US the average new house was only 950sq in 1950 and grew to 2400sq by the 2006.
Then maybe add people buying SUVs vs a mid sized car a big SUV can cost 40K USD.
My mom when she was little they had only color tv and she had her own B&W tv.
Now every room must have a 32" tv with cable or satellite.
Then there's the out of control costs of higher education which really need to be reigned in.
Though it seems in Japan even K - 12 education costs a lot which really it should be free as it is in the US.
Yes K-12 public school is free here except school supplies and sometimes text books.
“How the parasites weep because they can’t find a host!”
QUICK! The Nobel Prize.
2ch delivered yet again.
It's worthless now that Obama's won it.
Quote: "Household chores are very light work now."
As a man, I have to partially disagree. Tidying up the house still takes a lot of work, though it's still better than in ancient times thanks to stuff like vacuums (they suck!).
But indeed, cooking, washing etc. has become ultra-easy.
Quote: "Men! There’s no reason whatsoever left to put up with the selfish demands of these women and their insistence on marriage!"
Agree. Many women tend to leech and want to do nothing and just be fed. That's not good. Sure, to be allowed to have them deserves some reward, but should the relationship become mutual, they must contribute even the slightest bit.
You do know that cleaning robots cost only about 300$? They aren't perfect ofc, but you don't have to clean up so often (except for dusting, which usually takes like 20min)..
These cleaning robots don't really clean besides that they love to destroy things. I could tell you stories of the one of my granny, it makes more dirt then it cleans...
Don't blame the robot! :O
grannys and technology never went well together...
maybe she's doing it wrong?
Nah, not really but the robot is just plain stupid since his sensors don't notice everything so he crashes against certain things.
Even I sometimes have to turn to the broom. Vacuum cleaners can't clean corners.
Makes me wonder whether there's a concept of marriage for love in Japan. It seems to be more of a transaction, in which the man gets the short end of the stick. That's why these news make me glad: japanese girls are going to have to lower those ridiculous standards or prepare for a very ronery adult life. At least otakus get their ero-games and pillows with life-sized lolis to solace themselves with.
Amen Brother!!!!
loled and agreed
Dumb biatches can't find any men to sponge off of because the Japanese men are finally wising up.You have to pay for it one way or anothe but if you take away the power of the pussy, most of the women don't likely don't have very much to offer any of the gents.Finding a lady is like finding a needle in a haystack...finding money grubbing whores is EASY...they usually find you.
This applies in all relationships. Finding friends you can proudly call your 'Brother' or 'Comrade' is alot harder than finding friends who are trying to leech you. Most of the time, these leeches come to you the moment you win the lottery or inherit a huge fortune or something. Or get famous.
Fame and wealth is an easy way to attract all sorts of 'long lost cousins' and 'long lost classmates'.
Here's a wild idea: What if people actually married for love?
Naw! That could never happen.
That idea is extinct ever since we grasp prosperity.
"What if people actually married for love?"
Getting married for 'love' has always been one of the rarest motivations for marriage. That's not going to change, either. What is going to change is that, as the other forces that used to drive people to marry fade away, there's going to be less and less marriage as time goes on - and this is a good thing.
LOVE doesn't Exist!....If Love existed then we'd have no need to worship Gods, fight wars, or make money. Cause that Love would be all that mattered.
God knows better than that.
I dunno about that. You could say that we have wars because people love to fight them. You could say that people are greedy because they love money. Maybe people just love bad things and like hurting each other. We're basically just big monkeys with guns, you know.
lol that last anon comment was classic, yeah there's no lost love, just not loving the right things
Love is overrated.
Love is underrated otherwise they'd be less whores after your wallet.
Awesome news. It used to be you can't fuck Japanese women since they were loyal to emperor and country.
Well my net worth just went north of $2 million so I can afford me some Japanese pussy now.
Thank you Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere!
"The trouble with the konkatsu movement is that women seem to be more eager about it than men are. While about 2,000 women rushed to secure the allocated 50 konkatsu seats on the first day of sales, it took several days to sell out the 50 male seats.
Experts say that in tough times, single women feel an urgency to get married for financial stability, while men tend to put off marriage until they feel they can afford it. The konkatsu buzz has coincided with companies' move to shed employees during the recession."
Full article here: http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/06/konkatsu-marriage-hunting.html
Ze humiliation, as ze women crawl around like vermin trying to find zeir perfect boyfriend.
:D
Lazy japanese women demand men with high salary yet they aren't anything like your anime waifu. Somehow they had that delusion that anime women are Japanese women.
.. i have no problem with a wife staying home and raising the kids...better than hiring a baby sitter!
but these days both need to have a job, even if its a joe job.
i make plenty of money, but don't want to marry someone who will just sit at home.
so to women, get a job! then men will find you more attractive and vice versa... since they know you won't be after THERE moneies!!
I'm fine with a wife who stays at home if she does her part keeping it in order and raise my child as a contributing member of society. A LEECH is what I do not need.
and bake me some pies while you're at it.
they should make bigamy legal somehow lol
Nice pic.
This is such a retro thinking...and they say we're outdated. In the real modern world both man and woman work on their own jobs and have their own income. If the couple really loves and trust each other they one single account where all the money goes to and both of them control it.
Trying to find a guy who's rich just to marry and stay at home doing nothing and controlling their money?! C'mon do you think men are that stupid?! This is the typical thought of a woman where I come who gets neither, nor money or man, they are dumped on the very first day.
no wonder why women in Japan have lower social status then men, though women still using high standard when choosing their husband.
what a big difference in China, the number of men is bigger then women's, but men still have higher social status, the world is weird.
women... enjoy the loneliness.
Difference between these Japanese wifes and a whore is that you know how much you have to pay later and not up front.
Man = money
Woman = babies
Nothing like a good ol' DICKSLAP to keep em women in line.
Seconded~!
This isn't really surprising and NOT only in Japan, as in Western Society MOST women (when they reach thirty+ and are looking to settle down) are also looking for a man that is able to support a family.
Supporting a family requires a LOT of money fyi.
So is this really so surprising? This IS how are civilization has evolved over the last century, its only recently (last 30 years) that women have entered the work force in great numbers.
They don't want men who can support the family, they are looking for men who can support them and them alone.
Yes, 'family' is very expensive, but you don't need that kind of money that these women are demanding. Knowing when to spend and when to save is more than enough to make ends meet. What they are demanding is not the rice in the bowl, but a new LV!
Plenty of men here in the USA!
If Japanese men are turning their noses up at these women, I really don't think you're going to want them, either.
Yes but most of us do have standards we don't want a parasite.
I'd be ok with a stay at home wife if she took care of the kids and kept the house clean.
But it would mean no lexuses or BMWs for either of us and a home with only two bathrooms and vs a mc mansion.
Come to think of it even if I had a wife who made over 70K a year I still wouldn't buy a mc mansion.
I really don't want a 250 to 400K mortgage over my head.
It's like being forced to run a tread mill for the bank's profit and amusement.
haha
2ch is as merciless as ever
I bet a lot of those woman attending are just after money and trading up. This the only reason woman out number man. Woman is 2nd hand or hand me down too many times.
Seriously, I'm really starting to dig why Japanese marriage is going down the drain.
Manga, Anime, need say more?
2D > 3D
That says it all.
I wonder how many idiots here criticizing marriage have been actually married....
I wonder how many idiots here criticizing marriage have actually had a girlfriend...
I fixed your post.
Well, with 50% of marriages ending in divorce, I don't think there's any shortage of people who have been married who'd step up to criticize the practice.
since when has the man of the house become the slave of the house? But then again marriage life is pretty sad, unless your wife is really good and you love her. If not...yeahh, no thank you. As prideful as i am i cannot allow myself to be dominated by a woman.
Whoever controls the bathroom, controls the house. That's why the woman stays in the kitchen.
Looks like I'ma be a loner
Humanity is clearly heading towards extinction...
We won't go extinct, we'll just evolve. There's no reason we have to tie our survival to marriage and child-rearing. You could grow children in labs and raise them in state supported communes. This would prevent any of us from having to dirty our hands with these tasks personally and would allow society to keep moving right along. Just because the future will likely be very different than the past doesn't mean that there won't be a future at all.
Man walks up to a woman and says "would you have sex with me for a million dollars." Woman says "sure, of course I will." Man than says "will you have sex with me for 10 dollars". Woman responds with "what do you think I am some kind of whore?" Man says "I think we already established that, now we are just haggling on price."
Marvelous!!!
old joke never fails
critical hit!
Marriage rates have been in steady decline in the developed world for over 30 years, and the institution of marriage hasn't made real sense in almost a century. Getting married is largely pointless in modern times. The institution of marriage is a relic of preindustrial society in which people needed to find a partner and raise a family so as to provide themselves with a cheap source of labor (children) that they would then use to help them survive. In the past, children were a source of real wealth who helped their parents farm, do chores, did work, etc. and made real, positive contributions to the economic condition of their families. In modern times, unlike in the past, children are a huge financial drain and don't provide any sorts of economic or standard of living improvements to those who raise them, so the incentive to start families is largely gone. The need for a partner to help you care for that family is also fading accordingly. As society continues to evolve, fewer and fewer people are going to be willing to make the largely unrewarded sacrifices that go along with getting married and raising children. Maybe, if society is to survive in the long term, government will have to take over the function of reproduction via some kind of automated process. Brave New World, anyone?
marrisuicide
I wonder how all those kids who sell their bodies on the streets now are going to end up in 20 years or so?
By the way you point out what men want they actually want a women that loves them rather than just to maintain a high level of living without any work. Unless having a women that isn't a whore somehow causes you to maintain a high level of living without working.
Also guys do the work and women don't, isn't that the main controversy here?. The problem here is that the majority of women seem to enjoy leeching off that work for however long the poor man keeps it up.
inb4 lazy women.
Epic.
Actually everybody would have sex for a million with somebody... Hey, its just sex.
Fix'd
Actually everybody would have sex for a million with anybody...
Unless the person says he has some STD.
I call for nationally sanctioned harems to rectify the problem!
and teenagers sell their body for less then 50$.
Where is Japan truly headed...?
Some examples: There are 5 or 6 girls in my school I'm interested in. One I actually saw quite a bit of for awhile. The more I learned about her though the less I was interested. She's looking for a rich sugar daddy so she can stay a kid the rest of her life like her mother did. Those are her words, not mine.
The rest, besides being 24 and under (11 or more years younger than me), 3 of them have made it clear their parents will not except anything but same race boyfriends. This just came up by chance in some classroom discussion. I didn't find out by hitting on them.
Lol japan:
Women want to stay kids forever.
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FIX'd
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I became sad of the world's current condition liekt his now... :(
Perhaps God is sad too... no wonder the world seemed to be ending soon.
Nah, God has puked and decided to look into other things. Like saving whales.
Here the problem, there remains a strong unspoken discrimination towards women in the workplace in Japan the only way Japanese women would make more money is ether being Famous,have a PHD, and last marry a Rich man to have Children with.While Men face the diffrent issue with women because now Japanese women are discriminating men on there social status of Income.
Its sad enough that both males and Females are having this issue.
So you're basically saying that women ARE indeed motivated to marry for money, but it's not their fault since there's so much discrimination against them in the work place they've got no choice but to become gold diggers just to earn enough money to get by? Yeah, I don't really buy that as being a very good excuse.
There's some sense in that. First of all, we have to find out just how much women are making versus the men in the Japanese workplace. If we do find some kind of "salary ceiling" with the women's incomes, then your opinion holds water.
Last time I checked, Japanese women weren't starving in the streets unable to avail themselves of food and shelter without some man's money to buy it for them. Japanese women can certainly find jobs that will provide for them and their needs. To say that the idea that Japanese women are justified in marrying for money because they can't earn enough to satisfy themselves on their own is thus no different than saying that it's OK for them to be gold diggers because that's possibly the most expedient way for them to climb into the income bracket that affords them the lifestyle they want.
Yeah, they can get jobs no problem considering now Japan faces a serious labor shortage in the coming years as its population ages.
just whore me out thay all will be fine
wow i can be a pimp or a drug diller in japan lol jk
is that what you call it
lol wow that was some thing eles
You forgot that society expects women to stay at home and quit her job, and pays her less just cus she's a women.
Of course they'll want a rich guy if they are 'forced' to quit, duh. Either theat or perhaps simulatiously work, keep the house in order, rear kids... and look good.
Of course, if society was willing to change their norms...
And of course there's scienctific evidence that men benefit in a marriage more.
"You forgot that society expects women to stay at home and quit her job, and pays her less just cus she's a women. "
This is pure bullshit. None of this is true, especially the part about women getting payed less just because they're female. Women - on average - make less than men because women - on average - do different work than men and they work less. Studies have repeatedly shown that when you compare men and women working in the same occupation, with the same level of education, same level of seniority, same level of experience and who work the same number of hours, that there is no statistical difference between the pay men and women receive. Warren Farrell (a feminist) wrote a book that goes over this in detail. The book is called "Why Men Earn More" and you should check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Earn-More-Startling/dp/0814472109
"Of course, if society was willing to change their norms..."
Yeah, turn it all around and blame everyone but women for what women are doing. Women are clearly not responsible for their own behavior - it's all the fault of the patriarchy, amirite?
The 'woman as victim' camp really needs to get over itself.
"And of course there's scienctific evidence that men benefit in a marriage more"
Bullshit. The only thing I've ever seen that would even hint at this are findings that married men tend to have better health than unmarried men. However, the reason for that better health has been shown to be a result of better diet and more regular doctor visits. A man doesn't have to be married to eat better and go in for checkups. On the flip side, divorced men - of which half of all married men will eventually become - have been shown to have a plethora of health, economic and social ills compared to never married men in the same age group. So, any marginal advantage marriage even *might* confer is pretty well neutralized by the 50/50 statistical risk of divorce and the ill effects that would bring.
tl;dr - Society isn't forcing females to be gold diggers with any form of terrible discrimination against women, and men don't lose anything by just saying 'no' to such exploitation.
Here's a comment from someone in japan about women treating men as cattle - just for fun, feel free to read it and comment on it there.
http://maidjapan.blogspot.com/2009/05/dont-treat-us-like-cattle-protest.html
can some one give me a like to marriage site where I can find and marry a hot or a least a decent looking japanese girl, move to japan and live off her and bang her for seven years until i become a citizen.
*link*
i'd marry any japanese girl below 25 who's not after my money
oh wait i'd be single my whole life then @.@
Intellectual honesty is important here. Saying you would marry a woman even if she is poor is great but that's not a mans challenge its a woman's challenge because that's natural to us.
A mans challenge is would you marry a woman who has a great heart but you are not that attracted to. That is the male equivalent. Most guys would not. I'm not a feminist. Because its survivalism that's the problem. Not feminism or chauvinism. At least that seems like the case too me.
BTW anecdotal arguments are essentially flawed because they are usually the exception not the rule. So save the whole "I dated an ugly girl no problem!" stories.