Popular ero-mangaka Linda‘s latest manga “Seki-la-la Kanojo” is attracting much attention for its extreme erotic content, but the manga itself is being published as a normal non-adult manga in a general seinen magazine, Young Animal Arashi, without so much as an over-18 mark…
You can inspect some of its approved for all ages contents below:
Doesn't the fact it was printed in Seinen already work as the "Adult only" bit, I mean Seinen is intended for adults, it can be compared to R rated movies or M rated video games.
This is basically hardcore porn, how does it get into a general interest magazine? I've seen this kind of stuff from doujin circles and porn mags. Is it because there's no mosaic?
If thats the case, then I am fucking confused. These images are a lot more suggestive than a censor mosaic....
Sex is a part of life and as such is depicted in many books, movies, TV series etc that are not porn. It's perfectly legal to have a non-erect penis, female pubic hair or breasts on TV after a certain time. Maybe not in America, but then you are all descended from a bunch of insane puritans.
I love linda's work! It's top quality stuff for people that have the taste for it. It kind of blends exaggerated fantasy with realism and it's also quite detailed (but not overly detailed and messy like some manga out there), but some people just call that too squishy or even fat. Maybe they like Tohru Nishimaki better in the big boobs art department? Personally I hate Nishimaki but I love this, I think it's far more well done, makes Nishimaki look cheap and lazy, lol.
I'm surprised it's Linda's stuff being labeled "not an ero-manga" though because this artist's stuff, even though the buxom women are very well drawn and detailed, is usually too rough and has the rape atmosphere. There's usually bondage and gang banging going on. Even here, I really think that woman is getting forced on... I love how the women are drawn and I like the detail in the squish and squeeze effects (it's realistic) but theyre always too upset and usually never enjoying the sex.
This kind of stuff happens in Berserk too, and that's a seinen manga. You see loads of rape scenes and even jailbait pussy. Not everyone is as terrified of sex as Americans, you know. You accept that someone getting brutally murdered might not get an 18-certificate but you are bemused by the fact that sex might not?
Berserk is brutal, but since when was it in a general interest magazine? It was always advertised as disturbing and messed up, but Linda thinks her shit smells like roses by saying that this isnt an ero-manga,
The hell, if this isn't an Ero-manga, I have lived all these years in a big lie!!!
Now I wanna know what is a real Ero-manga!!! (According to Linda's definition)
Why would this deserve an 18 rating? Movies with scenes like this don't get one. All I see are tits. There's no genitals shown. What's the problem? How about this supposed "pro-otaku" site stop trying to impose western values onto Japan? If they thought the magazine needed to be restricted, it fucking would be. Grrrrr.......this had better not do anything to endanger my twice monthly Young Animal shipment from Japan. It's easily the best manga magazine going, and not just for the hot girls and ecchi, but other stuff too (DMC, Umi no Misaki, VF, Berzerk, etc).
Young Animal Arashi is a Seinen manga. It isn't marketed at children. It's targeted at 20-30 year olds. Most children would have difficulty with the amount of kanji that doesn't provide furigana pronunciation.
The only thing that surprised me when I read it in the convenience store was the amount of sex, not the depiction of sex. Young Animal has always had stories focused on the AV industry and sex in general. So it's not out of place in that magazine.
I don't get it, are some of you guys crushing some of these sankaku poster's hopes here and calling old Art out?
Is he not giving us the whole truth, by not outright saying this is still in an adult magazine that people other than adult men likely won't touch?
or is he contradicting himself by saying "as a normal non-adult manga in a general seinen magazine" which is really the same as "as a normal non-adult manga in a general ADULT MALES' magazine"
or is he just outright lying by saying "all ages contents" (or more like, just exaggerating a less powerful untruth for the sake of giggles)?
Art, tell us, have you made an error or are the naysayers missing a point? :(
I see no problem.Yes people have sex. It's time for your little overprotected fat kid who has no problem slaughtering Aliens in Halo to at least see it in a manga as a part of a story.
MILF is fine, but the woman depicted is too "squishy" for me, particularly her ass.
I'd not want to have to "explain" what's going on in this to my kids, if I had any -- nor figure out the "appropriate" response if I found a copy laying around their room.
... and, that's one of the many reasons I don't/won't have kids.
Then monitor what they're reading like a parent should, and prevent them from seeing it. And if one slips by you, simply sit them down, ask THEM if they understand first, then talk about it. Stop being a pussy about it. >_>
If I had kids, as early as possible I'd make an environment for them to be able to ask me absolutely any question they seriously want answered. I'd let them know that they shouldn't let anything or anyone hold them back from asking a question, and to ask as many as they can. and I'd let them know what I think as honestly as I can, then I can trust them to make their own decision off how much i've educated them on the topic. If I still one day end up finding an ero manga in their room I'll just ignore it. at a certain age it just becomes natural for them to be interested, you cant stop nature.
kids hate to be told what to do. If you order them not to do something, that'll only increase the chances of them wanting to do it and make it far more likely that they will. anyways, I dont see harm in ero manga. Better that than knocking some other 13 year old girl up at school, lol. lack of education leads to that, if they understand it well enough they can make the right decision themselves. also, kids will repay love far more easily than what they perceive as hate and anger.
I really can't believe how many parents these days seem so willing to treat their kids like complete idiots. Most kids already know all this by age 11, and have naked pics (at the very least) lying around their room/hard drive.
Its funny I read Heavy Metal Comics when I was 6 I didn't get what the hell was going on in those comics I had to have my mother explain to me what the hell is this and she ground me for it.
Well, it's my kinda milf, so I agree with previous anon.
As for explaining to kids. Well, if you found it laying in their room, they probably wouldn't need explaining, lol. I mean I found stuff like this all when I was 12, and my parents still don't know about it 10 years later.
I'm sure like many others, parents have never even mentioned sex to me. All I know is from Sex-ed and my own research.
No, I'm not a NEET or hikkikomori, im not even a very good otaku. I dont own a pillow :( All I have in my room is a poster of a DOA chick and a DOA callender, and that's hiding behind another poster.
With Kanokon and such anime, I'm not too surprised this is not adult.
I wonder how he explained it though, because this is almost as explicit as manga goes.
I suppose no genitalia is shown...
Only difference between this and Kanokon as far as explicity goes is that this shows the characters actually having sex. Funny, I thought it was the sex that drew the line between 18+ and acceptable for below 18. Guess it was really the mosaic'd genitalia...
Well whatever :D I saw stuff like this pretty much when I was 12 anyways, like Maikeru said.
And this ero... erm manga is of my taste too! I've checked out many ero-manga like this manga. I don't really care much for genitalia not being shown.
damnit, I'm hard now. But I need to leave the house for lunch.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Doesn't the fact it was printed in Seinen already work as the "Adult only" bit, I mean Seinen is intended for adults, it can be compared to R rated movies or M rated video games.
cute not loli!!
Thats soooo not ero. So its AOK for under 18s to read it.
Well it's OK for under-18s to have sex in most countries so I don't know why they can't look at a drawing of some breasts.
Holy shit! Ichimaru Gin is in this!
This is basically hardcore porn, how does it get into a general interest magazine? I've seen this kind of stuff from doujin circles and porn mags. Is it because there's no mosaic?
If thats the case, then I am fucking confused. These images are a lot more suggestive than a censor mosaic....
depiction of sex without the appearance of genitals= still porn
Sex is a part of life and as such is depicted in many books, movies, TV series etc that are not porn. It's perfectly legal to have a non-erect penis, female pubic hair or breasts on TV after a certain time. Maybe not in America, but then you are all descended from a bunch of insane puritans.
It's a shojo... don't pay heed that it's labeled as a seinen... is just a "shojo" ;)
this is a joke right?
NON-eromanga?! O_O
Did I drink something funky again? Or just wake up in Bizzaro World? 'Cuz I LIKE!!
Ero-rating-fail
Linda's the artist I most love to hate. But goddamn it I'd be a liar if I said I didn't own and fap to this
I love linda's work! It's top quality stuff for people that have the taste for it. It kind of blends exaggerated fantasy with realism and it's also quite detailed (but not overly detailed and messy like some manga out there), but some people just call that too squishy or even fat. Maybe they like Tohru Nishimaki better in the big boobs art department? Personally I hate Nishimaki but I love this, I think it's far more well done, makes Nishimaki look cheap and lazy, lol.
I'm surprised it's Linda's stuff being labeled "not an ero-manga" though because this artist's stuff, even though the buxom women are very well drawn and detailed, is usually too rough and has the rape atmosphere. There's usually bondage and gang banging going on. Even here, I really think that woman is getting forced on... I love how the women are drawn and I like the detail in the squish and squeeze effects (it's realistic) but theyre always too upset and usually never enjoying the sex.
It's approved for all ages as in all ages should see it.
Since it's not consider porn-equivalent, we can classify it as soap-equivalent.
Pfft, I've been watching stuff like this since I was nine.
too big tits, can't get aroused on this, thus it can't possibly be an ero mange, right?
yeah, all mangaka should go to you first before approving their manga's genre. if you are aroused by it, then it's ero right?
better yet they should all come to me first. I'll take this momentous job off your hands. I'll set it all straight, dont worry! :-)
Only in Japan could extended sex scenes be deemed non-sexual.
it's like i'm reading yomeiro choice.
This kind of stuff happens in Berserk too, and that's a seinen manga. You see loads of rape scenes and even jailbait pussy. Not everyone is as terrified of sex as Americans, you know. You accept that someone getting brutally murdered might not get an 18-certificate but you are bemused by the fact that sex might not?
Berserk is brutal, but since when was it in a general interest magazine? It was always advertised as disturbing and messed up, but Linda thinks her shit smells like roses by saying that this isnt an ero-manga,
are you referring to ero-manga as shit? it was roses to begin with... lol
Terrible terrible country...
The hell, if this isn't an Ero-manga, I have lived all these years in a big lie!!!
Now I wanna know what is a real Ero-manga!!! (According to Linda's definition)
This is a children's book XDD
Ichimaru Gin...
Why would this deserve an 18 rating? Movies with scenes like this don't get one. All I see are tits. There's no genitals shown. What's the problem? How about this supposed "pro-otaku" site stop trying to impose western values onto Japan? If they thought the magazine needed to be restricted, it fucking would be. Grrrrr.......this had better not do anything to endanger my twice monthly Young Animal shipment from Japan. It's easily the best manga magazine going, and not just for the hot girls and ecchi, but other stuff too (DMC, Umi no Misaki, VF, Berzerk, etc).
It's Art. ... I think
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MPD Psycho was in a shounen magazine.
I'm not surprised by these things anymore...
it's not porn if there's no light saber dick or mosaic-gina.
I don't care ero or non ero. I wanna see them.
Anyway, I see a guy seem like Gin from Bleach. :D
no pussy or cock visible
underage teens can deal with a lil nipple can't they?
No, if that happens they'll go into a bloodfrenzy. Well known fact.
The most important question is......WHEN WILL SOMEON PICK THIS UP AND TRANSLATE IT!??!
The three girls prostitutes or something....and whats witht he weirdo with the mustache?!
And WTF is Ichimaru Gin doing there!?
C'mon Artefact, just because it's fappable doesn't make it ero, does it?
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im sure most people have already fapped to things that dont have a 18+ rating before... like your's truly - your friendly neighborhood anon ^_^
Think they'll still send a C&D for posting the scans even though you posted the Amazon link?
How can that not be 18+? Well, they didn't show any genitals, so maybe that's what they're going for.
Young Animal Arashi is a Seinen manga. It isn't marketed at children. It's targeted at 20-30 year olds. Most children would have difficulty with the amount of kanji that doesn't provide furigana pronunciation.
The only thing that surprised me when I read it in the convenience store was the amount of sex, not the depiction of sex. Young Animal has always had stories focused on the AV industry and sex in general. So it's not out of place in that magazine.
I don't get it, are some of you guys crushing some of these sankaku poster's hopes here and calling old Art out?
Is he not giving us the whole truth, by not outright saying this is still in an adult magazine that people other than adult men likely won't touch?
or is he contradicting himself by saying "as a normal non-adult manga in a general seinen magazine" which is really the same as "as a normal non-adult manga in a general ADULT MALES' magazine"
or is he just outright lying by saying "all ages contents" (or more like, just exaggerating a less powerful untruth for the sake of giggles)?
Art, tell us, have you made an error or are the naysayers missing a point? :(
He's just exaggerating it. There is nothing stopping cashiers and stores selling Seinen manga to people under the age of 18.
But it's not like the article implies. It isn't published in Shounen Jump with a "kid-friendly" sticker on it.
It's published in a magazine aimed at 20-30 year olds. Not restricted to, but marketed to.
hmm, well there is the amazon link. it apparently has the manga up for sale outside of the seinen magazine, without labeling it as an ero-manga?
I guess as long as the genetelia aren't shown, it's not ero. xP
That looks like a badly drawn doujinshi.
I was just about to say the same thing.
you either have seen far too few doujinshi, or you're just picking at the style...
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG
lol.
really, rated below 18 is fucking crazy.
needs more loli
If only all non-ero mangas were like that
Ohh.... Quite mainstream there. This should be enough to replace Aesop's Fables.
At least I could learn something from this. ;D
At least it's not like the original stories Sleeping Beauty was based on? Near-necrophilia raep raep and then murder.
its okay because there no penis, and everyone knows thats the best part.
plus you cant do those "indecent" acts without one so.... tvy7
I see no problem.Yes people have sex. It's time for your little overprotected fat kid who has no problem slaughtering Aliens in Halo to at least see it in a manga as a part of a story.
Nothing I haven't already seen in in Shoujo manga...
youve seen semen and intercourse in a shoujo manga? which one??
As long as woman's pussy or man's dick is not visible, it not consider hentai.
Hent-...
I don't find this erotic at all.
says DFC
quiet, you secretly want huge boobs... ive seen you little DFCs wanting it in anime all the time.
simca thinks this should be R-18
if not, make it for people aged 16 and above
OT: good art, but boobs are waaay big on the onna-megane
simca's preferred limit is up to D cup only
haha
what signifies how big the boobs on a megane have to be? you must be a cattleya hater :|
There are more megane in the manga sea... leave this one to us. *puts on manga reading glasses*
no dear, don't get simca wrong
simca loves megane characters
simca just thought her boobs were waaay big
and with regards to cattleya, simca likes that character :P
ahaha, thanks anon ^__^
anon not getting simca, but will let simca go for liking cattleya :)
Indeed. Kinda sad to see those images where the girl got breasts with a higher individual weight than the total weight of the rest of the body.
i can see trouble brewing for this sorta thing already.. =\
delicious milf
MILF is fine, but the woman depicted is too "squishy" for me, particularly her ass.
I'd not want to have to "explain" what's going on in this to my kids, if I had any -- nor figure out the "appropriate" response if I found a copy laying around their room.
... and, that's one of the many reasons I don't/won't have kids.
Then monitor what they're reading like a parent should, and prevent them from seeing it. And if one slips by you, simply sit them down, ask THEM if they understand first, then talk about it. Stop being a pussy about it. >_>
If I had kids, as early as possible I'd make an environment for them to be able to ask me absolutely any question they seriously want answered. I'd let them know that they shouldn't let anything or anyone hold them back from asking a question, and to ask as many as they can. and I'd let them know what I think as honestly as I can, then I can trust them to make their own decision off how much i've educated them on the topic. If I still one day end up finding an ero manga in their room I'll just ignore it. at a certain age it just becomes natural for them to be interested, you cant stop nature.
kids hate to be told what to do. If you order them not to do something, that'll only increase the chances of them wanting to do it and make it far more likely that they will. anyways, I dont see harm in ero manga. Better that than knocking some other 13 year old girl up at school, lol. lack of education leads to that, if they understand it well enough they can make the right decision themselves. also, kids will repay love far more easily than what they perceive as hate and anger.
I really can't believe how many parents these days seem so willing to treat their kids like complete idiots. Most kids already know all this by age 11, and have naked pics (at the very least) lying around their room/hard drive.
...it says my long ass message has already been posted, but it's not showing ~_~
Its funny I read Heavy Metal Comics when I was 6 I didn't get what the hell was going on in those comics I had to have my mother explain to me what the hell is this and she ground me for it.
oh there it is now :D
Well, it's my kinda milf, so I agree with previous anon.
As for explaining to kids. Well, if you found it laying in their room, they probably wouldn't need explaining, lol. I mean I found stuff like this all when I was 12, and my parents still don't know about it 10 years later.
I'm sure like many others, parents have never even mentioned sex to me. All I know is from Sex-ed and my own research.
No, I'm not a NEET or hikkikomori, im not even a very good otaku. I dont own a pillow :( All I have in my room is a poster of a DOA chick and a DOA callender, and that's hiding behind another poster.
This is soo PG13 !
Definitely appropriate reading for minors.
Considering how some lose their virginity in middle to high school, this is surprisingly appropriate.
crap i'm almost 18 i'm still a virgin... i would like guys like you live in here
this should be how every manga should be rated compared to this
What now, Agnes Chan?! You heard the woman, NOT ERO-MANGA!
well.. this is quite clearly pr0n... no doubt about that.
You see no dick, you see no pussy, clearly not pr0n. No doubt about that. Still faptastic, though. ^_^
They can't ban it since it's rated G, right? :P
The Feminazis can't bitch about this right?
No, but I sure as fucking hell don't approve.
Its R-17 manga, any type of manga with softcore sex scenes. read tons of this. Liked it better than actual hentai actually
yea, it's comic for children :)
it don't matter to me I will still fap to that stuff
pussy
meh, we've all seen this kind of stuff before the age of 15 anyway xD
With Kanokon and such anime, I'm not too surprised this is not adult.
I wonder how he explained it though, because this is almost as explicit as manga goes.
I suppose no genitalia is shown...
kanokon didn't have semen either
amazing that if all an 18+ requires is genitalia, why do they keep censoring it for 18+ people?
patience is the key on sakkaku... O_O
Only difference between this and Kanokon as far as explicity goes is that this shows the characters actually having sex. Funny, I thought it was the sex that drew the line between 18+ and acceptable for below 18. Guess it was really the mosaic'd genitalia...
Well whatever :D I saw stuff like this pretty much when I was 12 anyways, like Maikeru said.
And this ero... erm manga is of my taste too! I've checked out many ero-manga like this manga. I don't really care much for genitalia not being shown.
what's this doing down here? It was clearly a reply to Yi's comment at 14-10-2009 18:05