Japan’s Sex Gap: 25% Now “Middle-Aged Virgins”

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“Middle-aged virgins,” men whose only sexual activity is onanism, are being highlighted as a major problem in Japanese society, with their numbers burgeoning even as youthful sexual activity increases, creating a “sexual bipolarisation.”

Some data indicates as many as 24.3% of males aged 30-35 are virgins, a statistic which seems to have been worsening, and these men are overwhelmingly poor, leading some to suggest female expectations play a role.

It seems that although the average age of a Japanese person’s sexual experience continues to decrease, at the same time a “sex divide” is ensuring some men remain isolated from the company of women, writes economist and author Takashi Kadokura.

Typically, sexual encounters at school are said to be ones where the female takes no great interest in income or prospects, but once into college and the workplace Japanese women suddenly become much more concerned about a partner’s potential as a source of income, the so-called “three highs”: high height, high academic qualifications, and high income.

A small-scale survey supports this notion: 73.9% of those with annual incomes of less than $20,000 had no partners, whilst only 33.3% of men with incomes of from $90-120,000 lacked partners.

The same survey suggested these poorer men could or would not use prostitutes; 85.5% of the below $20,000 group had never used a brothel, whilst only 37% of men with incomes from $90,000 to $120,000 had never visited such an establishment, itself a rather disturbing figure.

These poorer men are increasingly freeters and NEETs, and with their incomes generally remaining low throughout their lives, rather than peaking in their 40s and 50s as with regular salarymen, Japan may be forming a virgin underclass whose only access to sex and female companionship is through AV and ero-manga.

On the other hand, one of the many such surveys of single women found that the “cut-off line” for marriage for 46% of women was $40,000 a year, with 29% demanding $60,000.

However, 2007 government statistics indicated there are only 2,544,900 employed bachelor men with incomes over $40,000 in the whole country, meaning millions of “excess” women are present hunting for the tiny number of high-income men they consider eligible, whilst the rest are left with only the prospect of fantasies.

The obvious inference is that the major reason the poorer, average men are unable to find partners is because Japanese women are busy chasing dreams of wedding the handful of men with high incomes

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  • I live in the USA, and I’m 30 and a Virgin. I just feel nothing towards anyone so I get why people would choose not to breed with others. I think people are just sick of each other, more so if you live in huge cities/towns. I heard for the first time in I think 90 years the USA is starting to loose population as well. THANK GODS, the world is over populated already.

  • Anonymous said:
    That is the funniest picture. But it is a serious problem. Not just Japan, but everywhere. Middle aged male virgins is on the rise rapidly. And it is having a negative impact on societies because middle aged virginity among males is not natural

    there is actualy a very logical explenation for this,what has happened to society through feminism in the last 30 years.
    So it affected men who don't know anymore what manhood is and then the women who don't submit or prove that they are wrong,lots of important working values were lost.
    People don't know what all attracts people,before they were easily attracted the way they lived

  • That is the funniest picture. But it is a serious problem. Not just Japan, but everywhere. Middle aged male virgins is on the rise rapidly. And it is having a negative impact on societies because middle aged virginity among males is not natural

    • Are they talking 100% never-had-sex guys?

      OR never had sex with a female people, so straight virgins + all manner of deviants?

      OR is this more like people who haven’t been into the dating scene any given week/month/year/whatever?

  • ORE.. ZETSUBOU SHITA! Of all peoples, why did it have to be japanese women?! Don’t destroy my dreams!!

    And damn dude, busu onna wa dou suru? They got it as bad as poor men? Or maybe those 1.5 million get all the women… HAREM??

    ORE NO HAREM WA? ORE NO HAREM WAA??!!!?!

  • Here’s a couple other articles for the feminist lovers to read:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-10-19-male-college-cover_x.htm

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/531ffoaa.asp?pg=1

    Feminists are always going off about how girls are discriminated against and face sexism in school, etc. thus meaning that they need extra help and funding for special girl oriented programs to help them. If you’ll read those articles you’ll find that girls outnumber boys in college and have for years. Not only that, but girls are more likely to graduate high school than boys. If anyone needs extra help, it’s the boys and not the girls. Yet, the feminists still complain about how tough girls have it and demand concessions and special treatment so that poor little girls have a chance to succeed. Just more proof that feminism isn’t about equality at all.

  • There’s a lot more. Another myth perpetuated by feminists is that girls face terrible discrimination and sexism in school that prevents them from succeeding. Because of this, girls need special programs and funding to help them. The truth is that women outnumber men on college campuses and have for years:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/531ffoaa.asp?pg=1

    Girls are also more likely to graduate high school than boys. If anybody needs special programs and special funding, it’s boys! This is just another BS myth that feminists perpetuate in order to justify their demands for concessions in the form of affirmative action enrollments into academic programs that have traditionally had predominately male majority enrollment patterns as well as extra government funds for girls channeled into programs that feminists support. More proof that feminism is just about gaining advantages for women in the form of concessions from men.

  • How about the popular feminazi myth of girls being discouraged in school? Yes, the feminazis tell you that girls need special attention and that girl’s programs need additional funding because girls need help to succeed in this male dominated world. Too bad that’s a complete lie. Girls outnumber boys in college and have for years:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-10-19-male-college-cover_x.htm

    Girls also outnumber boys in terms of high school graduates as well. If anyone needs additional help and funding in school, it’s the boys not the girls! The whole notion that women are discriminated against in education is a fucking lie, perpetuated by feminists solely for the reason of demanding men grant further CONCESSIONS to them in education in terms of affirmative action enrollments in traditionally male dominated fields as well as special funding for feminazi favored school programs.

  • Anonymous said:
    Too much feminism has warped you into thinking that women militating for whatever they can get by whatever means is equality and men who object to such identity politics are clearly misogynists.

    Too much time on Sankaku hating women instead of actually reading about feminism has warped you into thinking that women militating for whatever they can get by whatever means is feminism and women vying for any sense of equality is clearly misandry.

    • READING ABOUT FEMINISM??? Now, now, why in hell’s name would we do that? Please name a motivation. Really, do try.

      (And no, the only possible thing to come to mind, “increasing your awareness of women’s plight will get you laid”, would be fundamentally wrong – unless said understanding bloke wants to start swinging the wrong way. Plus, newsflash, no one wants to bang anyone who has a plight, even if she’s otherwise hot. Screw the drama πŸ™‚

    • Another great example of feminist hypocrisy is the way they talk about how girls are discriminated against in school and need special programs – despite the fact that girls outnumber boys in college and have for years:

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-10-19-male-college-cover_x.htm

      Girls also are more likely to graduate from high school than boys are as well. If anyone needs special programs and special funding, it’s boys not girls. That doesn’t keep the feminists from insisting exactly the opposite. Just another example of how feminism is about demanding concessions that advantage females, not equality.

      • Just because there are more woman it doesn’t will mean they will have success with it. Besides that you lack knowledge about the world because you would know then that there are way more females living on the planet then men so it is easy that there are more females in colleges.

        • @09:39: What goes on Islamic countries has no bearing on what goes on here. We don’t have to go compensate over here for what goes on there. Or do you want to force all men over here to wear a burqa’?
          It can be an argument to try to liberate people from Islam, but not an argument for feminism.

        • There you go again, spouting off about income disparity even though it’s already been debunked. If you would have bothered to read the article you just posted, you’d see that it actually backs up what I said about women earning less than men – on average – because they do different work and work less. No, really – here are the section titles:

          2 Causes of the gender gap

          2.1 Hours worked
          2.2 Occupational choice
          2.3 Maternity leave
          2.4 “Women’s jobs” and “Men’s jobs”?
          2.5 Men may get more credit for their work
          2.6 Market Value
          2.7 Is there a “danger” pay premium?

          Go read that article you just linked to. I DEMAND that you do so before posting again. It’s amazing that you posted an article that backs up everything I said as if it somehow vindicates *you*. That just shows how completely uninformed you are. Go back and read my other posts and pay particular attention to the ones where I talk about Warren Farrell and his book “Why Men Earn More”. You have already lost this discussion. The sad thing is you don’t even seem to realize it. Hey, maybe for your next trick you can post some quotes from Farrell’s book itself and claim that it proves you right, too. That’d be worth a laugh. God, at least read the articles you link to in the future.

        • It is a fact that there is still no equality, best example all islamic countries. Like I said before, you lack knowledge about the world as it seems. Also there are studies existing about males and females doing the exact same job and the exact same amout of work that show that females get less money just because they are female besides studies were females got more money after they turned into a male.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States

        • “Yes, because there is still no equality and woman still got less rights,”

          This is not true.

          “a lower income and less worthiness in society”

          Women earn less because of the work and life choices they make, not discrimination. I explained this in at least 3 posts above and provided a detailed explanation with links. Again, your claim is nonsense.

          “And if woman doesn’t deverse all that, they shouldn’t deverse to give birth to people like you. Don’t forget that without woman we all wouldn’t exist.”

          You’re starting to become incoherent. Maybe it’s because you’re so angry. Angry because you know you’re wrong. Women aren’t oppressed and feminism isn’t about “liberating” women. Feminism is a form of identity politics that women use to try and demand ever more concessions from men – concessions they do NOT deserve.

        • You should start using your brain if you got one.
          Just think a little bit and you will know why it is about giving things to woman. Yes, because there is still no equality and woman still got less rights, a lower income and less worthiness in society. If the situation would be switched and men would be less worth, they would be exactly that way too.
          And if woman doesn't deverse all that, they shouldn't deverse to give birth to people like you. Don't forget that without woman we all wouldn't exist.

        • Try reading the articles before shooting off some nonsense reply. The disparity I’m talking about is measured on national, not international levels, and is greatly disproportionate to ratio of men to women in the general population. Stop making excuses for feminist whining and just accept the fact that women ARE NOT OPPRESSED and that feminism is just a form of identity politics in which women cry and bitch in an attempt to extort concessions from men that they do not deserve.

          Feminism = women screaming GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Shut the FUCK up already, you don’t deserve anymore.

    • “You clearly don’t know anything about feminism.”

      Or how about the feminazi ‘pay gap’ myth where the feminists bitch about how poor, victimized women only make X cents on the dollar compared to men? You gonna deny that the feminist harp about that to no end? Well the whole thing is a scam. The reason men earn more than women – collectively speaking – is because men and women tend to do different types of work and also because men work more. When you compare men and women working in the same occupation – and control for education, seniority, experience and hours worked – the statistical difference between men’s and women’s earnings disappears. This has been shown in studies time and again. Warren Farrell even wrote a book highlighting that the ‘pay gap’ is due to women’s choices – not to pay discrimination. Farrell’s book is called “Why Men Earn More”. Why don’t you educate yourself and read it:

      http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Earn-More-Startling/dp/0814472109

      Now, before you tell me that Farrell “doesn’t understand feminism” you need to educate your little-bitty self to the fact that he was on the Board of Directors of the National Organization for Women in New York City and has a strong background as an active feminist. He only began to fall out of favor with some feminists when he exposed so many of their claims as clear falsehoods. The whole ‘pay gap’ myth is just feminazi bullshit designed to anger women into thinking they’re being treated unfairly so that they can demand CONCESSIONS from men in the form of additional pay that they do not deserve.

    • “You clearly don’t know anything about feminism.”

      No, I think I understand it a lot better than you want to admit. If feminism isn’t all about demanding CONCESSIONS, then how then do you explain the Equality Now feminazi’s raging attempt to censor/ban hentai and porn in Japan:

      http://www.equalitynow.org/english/index.html

      This exact topic has also been covered at length on sankakucomplex and no one who is reasonable can call this anything other than feminazis trying to force everyone else to CONCEDE to them the power to decide what sorts of media the rest of society is allowed to see and possess.

        • IMHO, the law should be re-phrased to ban either:

          a) ANYTHING sexually suggestive in clothing, or hell, any choice of clothing whatsoever for females at all. Put em in standard issue uniform.

          OR

          b) ALL bitching rights about sexual harrassment are instantly forfeit. And punishable by law for trying. No lawsuits, no complaints, no starting conflicts, no spreading rumors, no legalized blackmail, etc. etc.

          Seriously, you expect to BOTH be able to walk around with your tits in full view AND be able to sue the first bloke who even looks in your general direction for 200 years or so of his average income?!?

        • Just because a given feminist or feminist group advocates so-called ‘topless equality’ doesn’t mean they are at all supportive of porn. Take Nikki Craft, who I mentioned above. She was arrested several times for refusing to wear a top at the beach. She didn’t want to wear a top because men didn’t have to, so she felt women shouldn’t either. She even filed a lawsuit relating to one of the arrests and everything. This action had nothing to do with her being in any way tolerant of porn. In fact, Craft was – and is – a very vocal ANTI-PORN activist. Yeah, I know there’s some pro-sex feminist groups out there. That’s not the point. The point is that the anti-porn movement has a very large base of support in the feminist movement in general. The anti-porn movement is about nothing other than a group of people who think they’ve got the right to demand society CONCEDE to them control of what sorts of media we’re all allowed to see and own.

          The anti-porn movement is about demanding concessions with respect to freedom of expression from everyone else and all of the feminists who are mixed up with it are about the same thing on that issue. That IS the point I was making in the first place – that feminism is about demanding concessions for women’s ‘interests’ (as defined by feminists) that they don’t deserve in the first place. Sure, not all feminists are demanding the same undeserved concessions, but they’re all demanding something. I have yet to read something by a self-identified feminist who didn’t feel she was owed a great deal that she absolutely didn’t deserve simply because she was born with a vagina.

          On issue after issue, this is what feminism is about: demanding concessions and advantages for the ‘good’ of women (as feminists see it) irrespective of any notion of equality or fairness. Feminism is identity politics wherein women try to demand as much for themselves as they can by whatever method seems most likely to work. That’s not equality – that’s just selfishness and greed.

        • Oh, lord. The anti-porn movement is very strong in feminism and many more feminist organizations than just Equality Now are opposed to porn. Equality Now isn’t some kind of anti-porn pariah in the feminist community, their views are quite well received by the feminist mainstream.

        • Oh please, the anti-porn movement is quite strong in feminist circles and isn’t just limited to Equality Now. You MUST know this, or it is you who is ignorant. Here, let me cite you some more feminist organizations who are fully supportive of the ‘porn wars’:

          https://www.againstpornography.org/
          http://www.antipornactivist.com/index.php
          http://www.object.org.uk/
          http://stoppornculture.org/home/

          The anti-porn movement has representatives in every aspect of the feminist movement. Women such as Melissa Farley and Nikki Craft enjoy wide popularity with even the most mainstream of feminists – of whom many share their views on porn being damaging to both women and society. Don’t pretend that EN is some kind of isolated embarrassment for feminism – they’re just one of many groups representing the anti-porn views that *many* feminists hold.

    • “You clearly don’t know anything about feminism.”

      No, I think I understand it a lot better than you want to admit. If feminism isn’t all about demanding CONCESSIONS, then how then do you explain the Equality Now feminazi’s raging attempt to censor/ban hentai and porn in Japan:

      http://www.equalitynow.org/english/index.html

      This exact topic has also been covered at length on sankakucomplex and no one who is reasonable can call this anything other than feminazis trying to force everyone else to CONCEDE to them the power to decide what sorts of media the rest of society is allowed to see and possess.

      Or how about the feminazi ‘pay gap’ myth where the feminists bitch about how poor, victimized women only make X cents on the dollar compared to men? You gonna deny that the feminist harp about that to no end? Well the whole thing is a scam. The reason men earn more than women – collectively speaking – is because men and women tend to do different types of work and also because men work more. When you compare men and women working in the same occupation – and control for education, seniority, experience and hours worked – the statistical difference between men’s and women’s earnings disappears. This has been shown in studies time and again. Warren Farrell even wrote a book highlighting that the ‘pay gap’ is due to women’s choices – not to pay discrimination. Farrell’s book is called “Why Men Earn More”. Why don’t you educate yourself and read it:

      http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Earn-More-Startling/dp/0814472109

      Now, before you tell me that Farrell “doesn’t understand feminism” you need to educate your little-bitty self to the fact that he was on the Board of Directors of the National Organization for Women in New York City and has a strong background as an active feminist. He only began to fall out of favor with some feminists when he exposed so many of their claims as clear falsehoods. The whole ‘pay gap’ myth is just feminazi bullshit designed to anger women into thinking they’re being treated unfairly so that they can demand CONCESSIONS from men in the form of additional pay that they do not deserve.

      Still not enough for you? How about the popular feminazi myth of girls being discouraged in school? Yes, the feminazis tell you that girls need special attention and that girl’s programs need additional funding because girls need help to succeed in this male dominated world. Too bad that’s a complete lie. Girls outnumber boys in college and have for years:

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2005-10-19-male-college-cover_x.htm

      Girls also outnumber boys in terms of high school graduates as well. If anyone needs additional help and funding in school, it’s the boys not the girls! The whole notion that women are discriminated against in education is a fucking lie, perpetuated by feminists solely for the reason of demanding men grant further CONCESSIONS to them in education in terms of affirmative action enrollments in traditionally male dominated fields as well as special funding for feminazi favored school programs.

      Those are just 3 issues that the feminazis distort in order to manipulate men into granting CONCESSIONS to women that women in no way deserve. Feminism is IDENTITY POLITICS and its sole purpose is to gain advantages for women at the expense of men. Deny it all you want. I’m right and anyone who knows anything about the topic knows you’re wrong.

    • Feminism =/= equality. Oh, that’s right, you don’t know the difference. Too much feminism has warped you into thinking that women militating for whatever they can get by whatever means is equality and men who object to such identity politics are clearly misogynists. Maybe you could post some Andrea Dworkin quotes now to back yourself up.

  • Some study claiming that Japanese working women often look for men of equal or higher success, says nothing for the so called "nature of women". It's also gender role perpetuating to do such a thing, which is unfeministic.
    If there was any real feminism here, this wouldn't be an issue at all.
    So because progress has had some setbacks, people want to set us even further back.
    Good Christ it's annoying.

    • Feminism doesn’t change women into wonderful human beings who believe in equality and are willing to pull their own weight. Rather, it just enhances women’s selfish and egotistical tendencies and makes them even more obnoxious and overt in the pursuit of their own self-interest. An unfeminist woman says to herself “What can I do to persuade the men around me to do things for me?” Whereas the feminist woman says “What strategy can I employ to most effectively demand and force concessions from men in general?” These are the only differences between non-feminist and feminist women – feminists have sharper claws and more of a taste for blood.

      • Feminism isn’t a perfect movement and not everyone in it is perfect. However, the principles are what they are. And your statement that feminism makes women selfish is completely baseless.

        And concessions, what do you mean? Like socialism? Not all feminists are Marxist feminists who want the downfall of Capitalism.

        Stop demonizing women. Stop stereotyping women. And stop misunderstanding feminism.

        • I agree. Feminism was a good cause in the sixties, when there was genuine inequality. But in today’s society, feminism is the fight against equality and egality, just as much as male chauvinism / masculism is.

        • To understand feminism is to call it what it is: Identity and Victim Politics. Feminism teaches women that they are horribly oppressed by men, thus they should band together and demand as many concessions as possible from our horrible ‘male-dominated’ society. That’s what feminism is and anyone who *understands* feminism knows this. Now, what I want you to do is to rage a little harder and cry some more about me having the audacity to call a spade a spade. Your self-righteousness is amusing.

  • Anonymous said:
    Feminism leads to wealthier women, who search for men who are wealthier than themselves.

    Wealthier women are awesome. Wealthier women don't necessarily look for wealthier men. Japanese women aren't so wealthy. Amazons don't want Hercules.

    When I see comments like this, I totally see why some women become Misandrists.

    • “Wealthier women are awesome. Wealthier women don’t necessarily look for wealthier men.”

      Women want to marry up. Do a little google research and look at the number of ‘successful’ women who remain single and are bitter about it. Many articles have been written on the subject. Are so many of these women still single because no man can ‘handle’ them as successful women? Well, that’s an explanation popular with feminazis. A much more plausible explanation is that there just aren’t enough ‘good’ (read rich) men to go around and these women aren’t about to settle for a carpenter or a plumber. Women demand men who they can use as a step up the ‘success’ ladder. Only dishonest people can even try to deny this.

      “Japanese women aren’t so wealthy. Amazons don’t want Hercules.”

      So, you’re basically just ignoring the article entirely now? Japanese (and all other) women want big earners. End. Of. Story.

      “When I see comments like this, I totally see why some women become Misandrists.”

      Also, women don’t ‘become’ misandrists, they’re born with such tendencies and encouraged to develop them every step of the way as they grow up. Girls are taught from before they can speak that men are sources of goods and services, and are entirely disposable if they should fail to be able to provide such. Boys are taught the same thing, and this is why so many men foolishly spend their time trying to demonstrate their prowess as providers to attract women. Women don’t bring shit to the table, it’s time guys stopped falling all over themselves to please them.

  • Anonymous said:
    "tldr: Feminism is screwing women over in the long run"

    You know what's interesting? Unlike in the west, there was never really any 'feminist revolution' to speak of in Japan. It's tempting to want to blame women's bad behavior on feminism – to externalize their failings to some kind of ideology. However, as this report shows, women don't need to be 'trained' to act this way by feminism – it's just part of their nature. All feminism does is make women more blatant and obvious in their selfishness, it doesn't put that selfishness there to begin with. That's just something women are born with.

    There is just not enough facepalm for some of these Sankaku comments.

  • Time works for men and against women. When I’m 40 I’ll have the chance to f**k cute 18 year old girls, maybe even younger girls(if the laws change).

    Until then I’ll simply use prostitutes and visit Third World countries. Using condoms and there is no risk.

    Hell, I can even have my offspring when I’m 60.

    There is nothing to lose.

  • I swear people saying "men should not be virgins" all over the place kind of make a Christian dark age sound good. "Kill, kill the sinful slutty men! Kill the nonbelievers!".

    From society viewing nonvirginity as a bad thing to people treating men like bad people for being virgins. This is surely not better. And I have an admiration for Priests who vow virginity because of it. Even though I HATE Christianity.

    • priests aren’t Christians fucknut. they’re Catholic. priests can marry. putting a dick into a vagina is fucking common sense. which is lost on Catholics.

      or maybe not, with all the controversy of priestXnun action. then again there’s also priestXpriest action. and not young bishie priests…

      lemon party!

    • Well, I havent seen anyone here poke fun at them being any less of men for still being virgins… surprisingly, lol. but I do feel sad for my fellow virgins, just as I feel sad for myself. Nothing wrong with being a virgin, everyone has their stances and reasons and no one should assume that this “virgin is trying his hardest yet can’t get a break”, thus making him a loser in some kind of unmentioned manly race. But few men want to die without having lost their virginity, on their own terms of course… and that “on their own terms” part really means this isn’t about virginity at all. People talk about the goal of “losing your virginity” as if it can happen before you even meet a second party to lose it to, lol…

  • My girlfriends have never been all that gorgeous. I mean, they weren’t ugly. Mostly plain. But I loved them. They had good personalities.

    I haven’t had a girlfriend in about 4 years though. And it makes me sad to know that these women are just looking for money. I’m not that picky. When I fap, I am judgmental because that is fantasy. But I am not deluded enough to expect that in real life.

    • tru dat

      but i still can’t accept deep inside that i won’t be able to fuck a 10(10 highest rank, 1 butt ugly) WITHOUT using booze or drugs. mostly drugs…

      is this all i can do? manage (barely) a 6? it hurts to admit it. hell i haven’t even seen too many 8s, let alone 10s.

      i know its RL, but still, i can’t see myself plowing a 6 for the rest of my life. will i go and cheat on my 6 someday. maybe a younger 8? a prostitute? or a younger junior office mate maybe?

      i know its shallow, but i’m a red blooded male for fuck’s sake. just call me hal then.

    • True I wish the poor and esp the idiots with an IQ of 80 or lower in the US did not breed so damn much.
      I say mandatory sterilization after you have your third kid out of wed lock.
      What really sicking is seeing some land whale with six kids.

      Some guys here don’t even believe in using a condom that alone should result in laser castration.
      Safe sex or no sex.

        • don’t assume only dumb, poor people create stupid children. I’m sure a lot of the problematic children, and NEETs, in Japan are a result of the highly work-forced parents in Japan. They’re educated and sometimes even rich, but their kids aren’t really being raised.

          look at the film 2004 Japanese film called “nobody knows”, it shows what’s happening

  • We live in an unfair world. Guys have to work their butts off to get a good career only to have money taken away from them by money eating machines (wife and kids).

    No wonder Japanese men just skip the later and just enjoy themselves :-)if you know what I mean.

    • Woman have to work way more to get the same money as guys, special if they have to life on their own and then they get a lazy husband doing nothing in the house watching tv the whole time who doesn’t take care about making food or the childs.

      Who is the poor here…

      • you say that a hell of a lot, Ayu. someone else already did a good job of putting down your claim about women having to work harder to make as much money as men, but really… are you thinking that if a man and a woman get the same job, the woman will be payed less for it than the man just because she’s a woman? What year are you living in? If an employer did that today, they wouldn’t be doing it for long. Where are you getting this? Some heading off a blog somewhere?

        • It’s NOT supposed to be an IF, it’s supposed to be a WHEN (unless you wanna never retire cause you’re the last generation with any significant number of people, working till the day you die *OR* go be the last generation of your culture and ethnicity, watching your nation go the way of the Neanderthal as it draws in immigration in unassimilatable quantities to service its disabled and senile elderly population).

          Thus, it’s just pregnancy insurance. You WILL, if you’re a conscious citizen, in the end pop out 2-4 kids, causing 1 to 4 YEARS of maternity leave, depending on country. You’re just advancing your salary for that time.

        • It seems like you don't really go outside since you would know then that woman always get way less money then men. You want to know why? Because there is a risk that a woman may get pregnant and since woman aren't allowed to get fired because of pregnancy they will have a worker that won't be abel to work for a long time, even as famous female actor in hollywood you get way less then men. Also there are more then enaugh billion statistics, studied etc existing that proof that besides that they get less money at everything, saving accounts included.

  • sounds like a really good reason to go after young girls if they want to lose their virginity.

    Even though society is telling them to get older instead of younger girls.
    Well that would only make the older ones jealous.

  • Last night I dreamt
    That somebody loved me
    No hope, no harm
    Just another false alarm

    Last night I felt
    Real arms around me
    No hope, no harm
    Just another false alarm

    So, tell me how long
    Before the last one ?
    And tell me how long
    Before the right one ?

    The story is old – I KNOW
    But it goes on
    The story is old – I KNOW
    But it goes on

    Oh, GOES ON
    And on
    Oh, goes on
    And on

  • I think these “poor virgin’s” are better off than they know. Sure, they may be a bit lonely some nights but there’s lots of worse things a person could be forced to endure. Not for these poor guys are there to be any weddings and honeymoons – but is that the end of the world? I don’t think so. Also not for these guys are STD’s, nagging wives with unrealistic expectations, bad marriages, divorces, custody battles that they’re sure to lose, child or spousal support payments – the list could go on. Hell, you could even make the argument that these guy’s simplified, girl-free life styles make them better off in some ways. In the world of Japan – where every type of pornography and erotic service imaginable is easily available to who ever would want it, the lack of steady female companionship really doesn’t carry that much sting. If you just *have* to have someone to sleep with you at night, why not just get a room mate?

    • Hell, no one said you had to get MARRIED, much less STDS PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND SHOTGUN MARRIAGE SOON DIVORCE THEN MISERY — just that it ain’t healthy if you don’t even try to have sex, not ever!!! Just wear a condom. And bang someone else’s wife. Worked lotsa times for me.

    • True, it is better to be a lonely virgin than to create another tragic attempt at making a happy family… but if those are the only two possible paths then ppl are screwed. That lonely sadness never goes away until it’s fixed. It can and does lead to depression and suicide unless the void is constantly filled with something. Many of these people desire to be loved and to start families. If there’s anything a human being should at least accomplish in life, it’s to start a family and pass on your blood to a new generation, raise a healthy and happy kid. A healthy happy kid requires happy healthy parents. It’s not that I’m saying whither this is necessary in life or not, but it’s the bare minimum, I mean you’ve gotta do something in your life so at least do this much if you can, right?

      Human beings all require love just like they require water. Any one who says they don’t is absolutely disillusioned. It’s too bad that more relationships don’t start with it as the foundation… ALL relationships should have love as its foundation.

      • “start a family”

        DO NOT WANT

        If you’re pinning your hopes for happiness on having kids, then I’ve got some bad news for you – research shows having kids doesn’t make you happy:

        http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6111954.ece

        http://www.newsweek.com/id/143792

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1163338/Children-dont-make-happy–says-expert-doesnt-any.html

        If you’re planning on having kids to fill some kind of void in your life then I feel bad for you – and worse for the kids.

        • No, it wasn’t just the parents of ‘hellspawn’ kids who reported being less happy. It was all parents, across the board. Parents are no more happy than people who are childless. In fact, parents may likely be even less happy compared to peers with no kids. If you weren’t happy before having kids, then the only thing having children is going to do is add a lot of responsibility and stress to the unhappiness you already had.

        • it all depends on what kinda kids you raise. if you know you’re gonna suck at raising children then don’t take the risk and create some hellspawn. I mean, im betting that a big problem in japan, probably the stem of why there are so many NEET, is that the parents work far too much and barely look after their own children… then they grow up and complain that their kids don’t take care of them, were just a bunch of hard work with little reward, etc etc.

          I mean parenting for a lot of people these days is just: make money to keep them alive, let them watch tv to keep them busy, put them in school to get them out of your hair for 8 hours a day, buy them whatever they want to shut them up, and yell at them if they do something that goes against you. yeah, im sure they’ll still care for you deep down somewhere… that’s what matters right?

          sure it’s a risk to create lives and help them grow, but if you’re in the right mind things skew in your favor, and if you get the rewards then I’m sure there’s nothing quite like it.

  • I have a feeling we’re going to see Chobits soon.
    If they can’t give it a convincing AI with silicon they’ll use cloned neural tissue to give it intelligence and so will begin the decline of the human race.
    Japan’s probably gonna end up making Cylons.

  • i still don’t get the average man. get a friggin hooker. that’s what i did and still don if i don’t have nothing resembling a relationship, in other words getting some. sure it might cost 100$ but hey! its cheaper then dating a bitch for a period of time and still not get any and the end πŸ™‚

  • This is so amusing, the “poor” guys just need to take a vacation in the Philippines and they will have a wife in no time. Well, pretty quick. Not a Japanese wife, but at least a wife.

    And she will cook and clean. Some women are best viewed from a distance, others are a pleasure to be with. They need to learn the difference.

    • No go to Russia there’s some hot chicks in Russia looking for a husband.
      Not sure why but Russia has an excess of women maybe it’s the booze or radiation.

      Then again most of them are looking to marry an American because US citizenship is easy to get and they would be outcasts in Japan.

      You know what the solution is Japan needs to be less critical of foreigners.

      • You ain’t never been to Russia, fool. A healthy childless yet decently educated and still-fertile Russian female is so exceedingly rare and so very aware of her status that she won’t even look your way if you make under $100k… all that’s left there is the idiots, the sick, the married with kids, and the divorced with kids.

      • The answer is simple! Very simple. I transmit from the opposite side of Russia, than Japan and I can tell, that on Russian countryside the only field-working humans are women. Men are constantly drunken. Moonshine-vodka pours with a broad stream directly into throats of Russian men. I know, because a friend of our family, who is Russian told me about it an also my other friend was in Russia and reported the same thing. So, I am not surprised, why Russian women are willing to marry anyone who sometimes is not completely drunken.
        I think, that it is MUCH easier to find Yamato Nadeshiko in Russia, than in Japan nowadays…

        • NOT in Russia, certainly. Not unless you’ve got a shiny new Porsche Cayenne (and you better replace it the minute the next model year comes out with restyled headlights) and several mil in real estate.

          Well, ok, the peasants might bite, but they’re loud, uncouth, and either single mothers or std-ridden and infertile by an age when other kids are still in high school. Russia’s one of those places where sex is abundant, but you’d be hard-placed to find anyone you’d even consider willingly marrying; and even if you did, there’s no way in hell they’d ever consider you.

        • you’ve obviously never met a russian woman. the single most selfish, unpleasent women in existence.

          That said, there is something wrong with American women, fundamentally wrong. No one in my family is married to one. One brother is married to a Russian girl (he’s only dated Russian girls, i’ve hated them all). Two more brothers are married to Latin girls, one a Mexican, one a Cuban. Both lovely women. I’m engaged to be married to a Japanese girl. Love her to death.

          the one thing all 4 of us talk about when we hang out is how horrible American women are, and how glad we are we met girls who weren’t “polluted” here. Now lets see how the marriage works out… should be tying the knot in march.

    • Oh fuck, now I feel even worse, being a hikikimori in the Philippines. When the average Filipina is the cheapest bride for foreign losers, what’s a ‘local’ loser to do, seeing that he can’t even get laid?

      That makes me, like, the bottom of the bottom of the social scale.

  • NoobsDeSroobs says:

    Finally made an account. (I am lazy)

    To all of sankaku who are reading this. If you ever would were to list everything that is illogical and contradicting,you could sell a x amounts of books about it. It is, sadly enough, the truth.

  • i saw some ppl mention here penis size. WEVE BEEN THROUGH THIS TOO MUCH ALREADY SENKAKU! D: The girls want money, not african cock! there’s too many sankaku articles to prove it!! they’re linked in this article, even. Art couldnt be hitting the message home more than he is already.

    But I don’t get it, wasnt the feminist movement supposed to free and empower women to make their own income to help support their families, or to even intentionally avoid marriage altogether? This isn’t only a problem in Japan, girls/women these days have been set back 50s years all over, even in the US. Teen girls even, I just saw a special on tv about it, are trying far harder than they ever have in the past 100 years to be as sexy and appealing to guys as much as possible, so that they can be accepted by society to have found a guy that will be able to provide for them. Meaning… most women still seem to grow up to be gold diggers. All the sexy girls are dumbass gold diggers, and all the rest are the ones who used the feminist movement to their advantage and don’t really need a guy.

    What is love? I don’t know, I don’t think anyone knows anymore, but we could all sure use some of it. Heck, you’d be hard pressed to even find a hint of romanticism in any form in the media these days. For these generations, the moon is just a big cold rock, the stars don’t exist outside of floodlights and tabloids, and flowers have been replaced with big dirty diamonds (probably drenched in some blood of african men… ones with big cocks).

    • starcompass says:

      Love is being helpful to someone. Love is sharing someone else’s needs with your own. Love is accepting someone for their faults, even if you don’t agree with them. Love is encouragement and sacrifice. Love is honesty. Love is being in harmony with someone else.

      Women don’t date NEETs or otaku because the NEETs and otaku don’t demonstrate (the key word here) that they can actually fulfill any of these ideas. Although they may BELIEVE in those ideas, if they lack the confidence to demonstrate the strength to do these things, no woman will be attracted to them. That is why women will be attracted to dumbasses and fuck-offs ~ even if they’re shithead motherfucks, they demonstrate the capacity to love (even if it’s all a visage to lay the women).

      Most women really want to take a nice guy over an asshole if both are capable of love. But they won’t at all go after a nice guy who doesn’t demonstrate an ability to love. And it’s understandable, considering everyone wants to be with someone that you can enjoy your time and company with. If you can’t show them you’re enjoyable/fun/exciting, why would they want to go out with you? If you can’t offer them companionship and you come across as unconfident, unexciting, and just filled with lofty ideals, women will always turn away.

      Money is just a correlation to people who are confident and demonstrate ability. Women chase after the personality first, even though it usually ends in disappointment. Most of the people who “talk the talk” don’t walk the walk. And sadly, the people who are more than willing to “walk the walk” (the otaku) can’t “talk the talk.” If the otaku learned how to “talk the talk”, then things would start looking up. If women learned to see past the exterior personality and see people for who they truly are, then things would start looking up. Instead, everyone is winding up bitter because they’re looking in all the wrong places and just assume the opposite sex is fucked up in their thinking. It is indeed a vicious cycle.

      • >Love is being helpful to someone. Love is sharing someone else’s needs with your own. Love is accepting someone for their faults, even if you don’t agree with them. Love is encouragement and sacrifice. Love is honesty. Love is being in harmony with someone else.
        In practice, most of the time you need money for all those things. Sad, but there it is.

      • Well, you’re the first to hit the “what is love?” answer straight on the nail… I would have also taken “baby don’t hurt me”, though with some cringing.

        I know the answer, it’s not some kind of magic you feel, it’s definable, it’s just that love has a long definition (more than even what you said), thus the need for the 4 lettered word, lol.

        I asked it to say “who know’s what love is anymore?” i mean to say, I feel it’s too rare these days. In a way, it’s almost non-existant in relationship. That’s why there’s so many screwed up kids, marriages without love in them will do that. Maybe things have always been this way, but at least there was a time when love was something promoted and bought into. That people of all ages could be interested in and happy to see, on tv, in movies, in books, in stories.

        Sex is just another drug without love, although probably the healthiest one you can have. Lust is not love. For me, lust is when you want it, love is when you need it. Wants & Necessities. You’ve gotta make that urge for a lollypop into an urge for a well cooked meal that will benefit you beyond just a sweet taste.

        As for the NEETs not being able to draw women. I think it’s both ways really. NEETs can maybe be turned off by real women seeing the way they go so easily after dumbasses and fuck-offs, just as women might be turned off by them being such recluses. Either way, one side has to give. If only one side could give the other a chance, but they need to see past the stereotypes first. All humans are capable of loving. We just need to hope everyone finds someone that clicks with them. The more people that can click for the long term, the better it is for society. If all we’re getting is NEETs here and failing relationships there, things need to change.

        Maybe all women should really just go ahead and give the 25% guys a chance. lol! Forget about finance. Look, some guys just get out there and fuck whatever they want, but some guys just settle with cuddling 5 foot pillows every night. I mean, go to the comment section of a popular music video or something, on youtube maybe, and compare majority of the kind of comments there with some of the comments here. Maybe NEET and otaku are really just diamonds in the rough? lol…

    • Oooooh, bitter, aren’t you?

      “…most women still seem to grow up to be gold diggers.”

      By “gold digger”, do YOU mean:

      1. A woman who marries with the expectation her husband will provide all financial support for the family, or,

      2. A woman who marries a guy, divorces him for half the money, finds another guy, divorces him, etc. until she feels rich enough?

      I don’t consider type #1 a “gold digger”, as long as her expectation is clearly stated up front, BEFORE engagement.

      Type #2 is just another form of scum.

      Lazy females go to type #2. Skimming off some guy (or gal) is easier than studying hard in school, getting a job and working for one’s own money.

      One of the reason there are so many of type #1 in today’s so-called modern age is that society and families send out mixed signals as to what’s acceptable/expected of women.

      When I was a senior in high school, 75% of my chemistry class was female. Out of about thirty students, the top eight were female (the same ones who were kicking my ass over in math class).

      Fast-forward to the next year. Some of them were freshmen at the same local university I attended.

      Me: “Laura! Hi! It’s cool to see you here. I’m in CompSci; what’re you in?”
      Laura: “Home Economics.”
      Me (admittedly tactless, doing *facepalm*): “Home Ec! Holy Fuck–why?!!”
      Laura: “I like it.”
      Me: “But you could do anything you want – you’re brilliant!”
      Laura: “I like Home Ec.”

      Me: “Yvonne – hi.”
      Yvonne: “Oh, hi.”
      Me: “What’s your major?”
      Yvonne: “Fashion Design.”
      Me: (again tactless, thinking the convo with Laura was an aberration): “Are you shitting me?”

      Me: “Doris, what’s up?”
      Doris: “Guess what?! I’m getting MARRIED!!”
      Me (checks her profile; nope, she doesn’t look pregnant): “Wow, I’m stunned! A person as smart as you getting married the first month of college?… ah… that’s not quite what I meant…”

      Me: “have you seen the Renaissance Faire over at the Quad?”

      I quit asking women what their majors were. It was too depressing, frustrating, and I would have ended up looking like (more of) a jackass.

      Point being, they were smart, motivated, capable women who’d been “mentally jailed” by their upbringing, or something like that.

    • it is the code of the NEET! FAP. Keep fapping until you fap into true love or into death… avoid STDS, you must live long to collect things to fill the empty void in the box your family has given you to live in… only then will you attain a place in loli/bakunyuu heaven…

  • oh, this oh so cynical world… if it wasn’t apparent enough in this article then just read these posts to hit the point home. Not that I’m not cynical by any amount, I am, it’s just cynicism makes me feel sad πŸ™

    but I have some hope, which I’ll keep having even 20 years from now. I mean I don’t have a job yet, but I’m 20, and I’m not fat or skinny, I look after my hygiene, try to be healthy, and I haven’t had any pimples in months! πŸ˜€ surely there is some hope for me right? Then again, I’m more doing the looking, not the waiting… I mean fictional women have given me high expectations, but i swear my list of characteristics is shortening every year.

    Surely there must be a woman out there with with a heart, brains, AND boobs?? Oh man… now I’m feeling cynical again. πŸ™

    • Love is not for this planet.

      On this planet, ” Love ” is just a word.
      a empty word .

      Get to play soccer or find some hobby .
      or be genius at school.

      Do something to enjoy your spare time.

      Stop seeking the ” perfection ”
      because ” perfection ” is just a utopia.

      ( sorry for my english )

    • You’re a romantic. Separate the sex and the love, or better even the sex and the attraction, and just bang some (willing and eager) piece of meat. Cause there’s no lasting love to be found. One’ll be too domineering or bitchy, another’ll friendzone you, yet another’ll run off and get preggers by some dude whose name she doesn’t even know… And before long, even if you do meet someone who actually DOES feel some interest/attachment to you, you won’t reciprocate, you’ll either emotionlessly bang or friendzone their asses. Trust me on that one, all my friends are female *and* I’ve got 50-ish (female!) notches on my bedpost, yet I haven’t been in a relationship in years. Hell, my female best friend (who’s kinda hot, actually) once flat-out suggested getting married – and I totally turned her down and turned it into a joke… Just can’t trust women anymore. Fucking’s easy, but it’s just that. That make any sense? Probably not.

        • Funny. I stopped being disappointed since I started being cynical. Every single time I ask someone to do something, I do part of it under the assumption that they will not get it done. Half the time, they really didn’t get anything done, though I have already all the materials prepared and I can finish it within a heartbeat. Another half the time, they get it done, no questions asked, much to my surprise.

        • cynicism only adds to my disappointment, in fact it stems from my disappointment 😐

          as for the boobs, do you expect me to go up to a woman and say “hey i’d like to go out with you if you could just get a boob job… pwease? :3” and I have no idea how i can go into a relationship and just keep wishing that maybe they’ll grow up that she’ll figure out I like them and get them done. lol..

          best they’re there before. real or fake… surprise me

  • Truly, our Japanese brethren are stronger willed than us. Their Long term virginity is a testament to their dedication to forgoing 3D in favor of 2D.

    2D Wants to know you
    2D loves you
    2D would never betray you
    2D is perfect in every way

    3D wants your money
    3D merely tolerates you
    3D Would cheat in a heartbeat
    3D is pig disgusting

    now to be serious here, while the wallowing depression of being a 40 year old virgin in Japan must be somewhat crushing, I think in the end these men will still live full lives. They’ll make up for the lack of sex by doing awesome stuff like amazing collections and projects. Being creative.

    The Women of Japan, however, will grow old and bitter at not finding a mate and will turn into old Hags. Finally at the end of their beauty, they will realize how wrong they were to only look for money. But then it will be too late. The NEET and Otaku who saved his money for himself for 40 years can now afford to attract the younger 20 year olds, and has no use for a 4o-50+ year old woman. She is doomed.

    tldr: Feminism is screwing women over in the long run

  • what makes the problem even worse is that those high income men have more than 1 women. so they may have like 10+ fu*k women while totally not interested or think about marrying any one of them. while those women think they will be the chosen one and even fully aware they are not the only person he is having relationship with. heck, the rich married men will probably still have many women at the same time. this world is totally fu*ked up.

  • 250+ comments, and no one’s tried tying this topic to the Nazis, thus invoking Godwin’s L-

    FUCK! >< Now you have ME doing it!

    —————–

    35…. check.

    Have I dated, looking for that Special Someone?…. check.

    Do I collect anime/manga/eroge?….. check.

    ………….
    ……..
    …..
    ..

    I'm screwed.

    Might as well get used to the idea of celibacy.

        • No, that’s why you find that all the sexy women are dumbasses. That’s what I meant.

          I agree with what you say as well, but that wasn’t the point I was trying to make.

          Lazy girls who want a free ride – strive to be sexy, don’t care to study, think they’ll get a husband to do all the work. Usually those blessed with natural beauty decide to take this path.

          The smart ones are girls who either have no confidence in their looks to take that other path, or just don’t give a damn about how they look and how others see them and concentrate on studying.

          thus my point. Brain, Body, Beauty, and Boobs don’t mix in this world. If a smart woman happens to have large breasts, she’ll probably get them reduced because in society large breast = porn star, even if they’re natural. Does she have a good body? You won’t know, smart types will dress as modestly as possible to get as far away from that stereotypical “porn star” image as possible. But that’s just plain unlikely, because if you have a good body you’ll use that first to make money before you use your brains, it’s just far easier. At most you can get brains + beauty, but it’s rare.

        • No, that’s why you find that all the sexy women are dumbasses. That’s what I meant.

          I agree with what you say as well, but that wasn’t the point I was trying to make.

          Lazy girls who want a free ride – strive to be sexy, don’t care to study, think they’ll get a husband to do all the work. Usually those blessed with natural beauty decide to take this path.

          The smart ones are girls who either have no confidence in their looks to take that other path, or just don’t give a damn about how they look and how others see them and concentrate on studying.

          thus my point. Brain, Body, Beauty, and Boobs don’t mix in this world. If a smart woman happens to have large breasts, she’ll probably get them reduced because in society large breast = porn star, even if they’re natural. Does she have a good body? You won’t know, smart types will dress as modestly as possible to get as far away from that stereotypical “porn star” image as possible. But that’s just plain unlikely, because if you have a good body you’ll use that first to make money before you use your brains, it’s just far easier. At most you can get brains + beauty, but it’s rare.

          Just for the record though, the majority of attractive unmarried females I’ve seen/met only have one title going for them: girlfriend. Throughout school, I was hard pressed to find a pretty girl with either character, taste, charisma, charm, creativity, or basically just a thought process. Not a unique one in the lot. All that mattered to them was popularity, how others saw them, being sheep in the crowd instead of a unique individual. All girls fit into just two stereotypes: slut or nerd. I don’t know, maybe I just want to at least just see someone in between… somewhere, anywhere, outside of fiction, for once…

          then it goes on like that, the sexy ones drop out or just make it though high school and make a living using their looks and bodies either in a business or fishing for guys, and the others go on to universities. But they all just continue to fill stereotypes…

          I don’t think it’s the same with guys… it was kinda the same but a little better, lol. a few guys, even being a guy and seeing them I just thought, now that’s a cool dude.. be nice to have a friend like that. With guys tho, there’s no sluts of course, lol, there’s some dumbasses obviously, the guys that go nowhere. But most guys were the university/college type, or under achievers. But you knew that the most of them were planning on making something good of themselves, some in a more rough way and some in a more confident way. They had stereotypes too, but with far more variety and ambiguity to them.

        • Correction! That’s why it’s so easy to find dumbasses than smart people!

          Most men and women have this strong sense of self-entitlement and expect God/government/what-have-you to manage their life for them. They also thought money grow on trees until they start working!

  • So wait, all the older women are gold digging bitches, and the younger ones are prostituting themselves through phone sites? So…..the guys over there (with the cash women prefer) are really just marrying bitches and whores? Seriously?

  • Anonymous said:
    I don't know what everybody's problem is, it makes perfect sense to me. Women want to be friends with good-hearted nice guy, have sex with the hot badass(telling the nice guy all about every chance she gets), then marry AND have sex with the rich guy(cheating on him with the badass then taking her alamony and child support)!

    Like they say, don't hate the playa, hate the game.

    Next thing you know the country has a population problem, oh wait…

      • You do realize the only reason for Japan’s population density is that about 90% of the land is unsuitable for living right?Cost of living, can’t exactly expect a country the size of California to be plentiful for 130 million people. Also, let’s not forget, there isn’t exactly a thriving job economy outside any major cities and their social stigmas for living out in the boondocks. Their population problem is also full of you know, old people, young people who drive the economy aren’t exactly plentiful. Go read some actual articles about Japans population crisis, weeaboo.

        • Go read about population carrying capacity and dieoff.

          Japan has long since exceeded the number of people it is capable of supporting on a sustainable basis along with the rest of the world, so a major balancing act is in order sooner or later.

          Better to reduce their population willfully rather than wait for the inexorable laws of nature to strike.

  • a wise man once said. A HAPPY WALLET IS A HAPPY WORKER AND A HAPPY WORKER IS A HAPPY NATION AND A HAPPY NATION IS A RICH NATION.they should start paying more and quit being cheapskakes and keep their workers happy and they’ll see the economy boom in their favor DONT YOU AGREE 2ch!!

  • I don’t know what everybody’s problem is, it makes perfect sense to me. Women want to be friends with good-hearted nice guy, have sex with the hot badass(telling the nice guy all about every chance she gets), then marry AND have sex with the rich guy(cheating on him with the badass then taking her alamony and child support)!

    Like they say, don’t hate the playa, hate the game.

  • Women are awesome, but a lot of them are just average at most, without their eyelashes, hair extentions and make up.

    Even then though, some are worth it because of their personality, but their high expectations (the women that voted this way at least) are very superficial.

  • Barbarian of Gor says:

    From my formative years, the awesome classic film “Conan the Barbarian”…

    Early on in the film, Conan is becoming a famous gladiator, so he’s educated both in martial arts and literature. As he’s reading in his cage, they push in this cute oriental lady and of course he goes over to fuck her. “Woman! Wooommmmaaannnn!!!” If only life could be that simple…

    I don’t take it literally, but its a good lesson: People need to be bred, they make shit choices on their own. On their own, the more intelligent breed less and less and the least intelligent breed more and more. And I don’t just mean “Smarts” I mean all the good qualities of mankind. Our very success through our technology is our downfall, we have removed “Natures Claw” and countless “Negative” traits are building up.

    I’m no expert on Oriental or Japanese history, but didn’t the whole country used to be run in what AmeriKKKans might call a “Cult” like fashion? Wasn’t there a strict hierarchy of expectations and control, along with arranged marriages and selective breeding?

    People on their own in a “Modern” culture could well choose to remain single, it’s tough and hard to be married and raise the kids that drop from the dam. That’s made harder so by the “Liberation” of women who then abuse it to behave as bad if not worse than men ever did. Why crawl and beg and plead to be part of a destructive “Partnership” that can end in a heartbeat with the woman taking everything and living off of you while then humping other women or “Outlaw” types? IMHO, the conspiracy theories might be right and the “Reptile Controllers” are encouraging this to indeed dumb down man and crush his spirit so they’ll have a large rabble to parasite off of.

    Japan could implement a turnaround by scaling back it’s “Progress” and it’d be far more equipped to do so than AmeriKKKa. Kick most of the women out of work, double man’s salaries if they are married. Have social engineers (looking like feudal lords backed by samurai) arrange and enforce “Efficient” marriages. They can run the Otaku’s through the wringer; “So, you like this Mushashi character, well I do too… You ever handle a wooden training sword for real?” But they also can choose and forbid divorce; “You think you have complaints!? He only has a few…hundered…Doremon figurines. Try his tentacle fan neighbor, his wife has lots to cry over!”

    I don’t mean this as some kind of sexist “Slave girls for gratification to awful men. Marriage to produce efficient offspring to continue the culture is DUTY. But a system of expectations and social reinforcement is better than absolute self gratification with no perception of what is right or wrong.”

    But it’s just an idea. A suggestion. I have no right, nor would I force if I could, Japan to go “Retro” on anyone…

    IMHO, the women who set various high “Standards”, chiefly salary for a husband, are every bit as bad as the “Otaku” who is too busy chasing dreams versus them. They set standards too high, and the guys just give up chasing them. Just as in primitive times the woman has a right to bitch “We need more food, bring back food or it’s not just no sex, you hear me bitch at you!” so in modern times she should be not just the comfort but the “Inspiration” for the man to better himself. And outlawing hentai and rape simulators won’t help, it’ll just turn the affected population criminal if not “Mad scientist plotting society’s destruction”.

  • “The obvious inference is that the major reason the poorer, average men are unable to find partners is because Japanese women are busy chasing dreams of wedding the handful of men with high incomes…”

    Or to state things in obvious terms, they’re gold-digging whores.

    So they’re either going to have to compete for the small number of qualified earners, outsource, or realize that their priorities are all fucked up.

    • Yes, they’re gold-digging whores, who are such in large part due to Japanese society (IMNSHO).

      * Japanese tradition is that the woman is a housewife, not a wage-earner with her own independent income.

      * Japanese business practices place a relatively low limit on the amount of money earned by women in non-sex-worker jobs.

      * Materialistic advertisements utilizing the Japanese ‘group mentality’ are more successful in getting women to want/buy trendy things are more successful than in the West.

      For most Japanese women, the only way they will “get” money is if they inherit it, or marry into it; they’ve limited chances of earning it themselves.

      Thus, they target rich men.

      Here are the current choices as I see them for Japanese men:

      A. Create a society where women can and do earn the same amount of money for the same level of work as do men, regardless of how sexy-looking they are or are not. This way, they can have their own money and not depend on a man for that. Then, they’ll care less about marrying only rich men.

      B. Fuck your way through high school and college, then buy that “waifu” pillow and Ona-Cup, ’cause by then, it’s all over, baby.

      C. Get a mail-order bride from some poor or impoverished country. There’s no guarantee she’ll be less of a gold-digger than a Japanese woman.

      D. Look for a woman who isn’t a slave to materialism.

      Option “A” isn’t gonna happen any time soon. Most of the political and business power there seems to be in the hands of older, rich (and usually) already-married men.

      They’ve got things the way they like, and aren’t gonna change them just because some NEETs/otakus/salarymen are crying, “I’m so ronery!”

      About option “D”. They’re out there, but relatively few in number. Don’t ADVERTISE you are a dumb-ass.

      * Leave the dakimura at home (best to hide it); NEVER take it out in public.

      * Get some exercise, and shut your pie-hole. The guy in the pic has a curry-plate, plus FOUR bowls of apple crisp.

      Now, I’m sure Anna Miller’s makes some damn fine apple crisp, but Jesus-fucking-Bhudda-in-a-Love-Shack, c’mon!

      * BEFORE ALLOWING a woman over to your place, even if it’s just a one-room apartment, hide that shit! I’m talking about hentai, loli, and overtly-sexual female figures/figurines/posters/magazines/manga/ero games/computer wallpapers and themes.

      You don’t have to trash it — just get it neatly out-of-the-way. Build a beautiful wooden case (or cases, plural, as needed) to hold it all, pad the case and lovingly pack away each item, then lock the case and store it in a self-storage rental (do they have these in Japan?).

      Secure your computer! Don’t depend on security-by-obscurity! Get yourself an encryption program such that there are no folders even VISIBLE for her to point at and ask, “Honey, what’s in there?” You may have to re-install all your games; be sure to properly back up and restore your saved games.

      If you have a developing relationship, you might want to carefully test the waters of how she’d feel about the subjects of your hobbies — or, you might not want to risk it, and simply sell that stuff off for the sake of a smoothly-working relationship.

      If you’ve just got some chick for a one-night stand, you just have to hide it while she’s there.

      If you’re trying to have a continuing relationship AND pretend you don’t mess with this stuff AND keep this stuff, you’ll eventually be caught.

      No matter how careful you are, one day she’ll walk in unexpectedly, hear, “Goushujin-sama! Kyaaaaa!” from your PC or console, and it’s GAME OVER, BAD END.

      • tl; but i read it :3

        i love how much detail you go into sometimes LOL

        but about the hiding your shit thing, honestly women are kidding themselves if they don’t hear “GOUSHUJIN-SAMA! KYAAAA!” from pretty much any red blooded male’s pc, lol. Especially with the depraved state of so many males. Honestly, more of them should feel sorry for these guys and be more understanding. The woman herself, just her presence can be enough to get the guy to start getting off those addictions, women should be able to see that. I don’t know about in other cultures, but when a guy gets married in my culture, people often jokingly like to tell the guy “She’ll straighten you out!”. In fact, getting your son married can often be pushed to the top of priorities if you feel he’s hit a rough spot in life.

        I don’t know, I just think a good woman would appreciate someone who is upfront and honest, and wants help to move on from anything he feels are vices. Being all snoopy and secretive might hit some alarm bells that’ll resonate throughout the rest of the relationship. Trust is part of love, and starting a family without love and trust is a shaky business.

        But maybe no such open minded woman exists and I’ll just be single forever, lol. I’ll just scare them all away with my pr0ns… hehe

    • Feminism is against nature.

      Feminism leads to wealthier women, who search for men who are wealthier than themselves.

      As a result the number of abortions(resulting from shortime relationships, ONS and sexfriends) increases and the overall number of births decreases.

        • well i will also say men need more energy to move,the taller they are the worse they are off.Usualy problems start if they are above 180cm.
          And their food consumption is so much bigger then from a women.

          Only a few basic points.

        • Sure, collectively speaking men do earn more than women. This is because men and women tend to do different types of work and men tend to work more. When you compare men and women working in the same occupation, and control for seniority, education, experience and hours worked then the statistical difference between men’s and women’s earnings disappears. This has been shown in studies time and again. In fact, Warren Farrell even wrote a book explaining how women are completely in control of their paycheck and how women’s choices are what leads them to earn less – not pervasive pay discrimination. The book is called “Why Men Earn More” and I think everyone should check it out:

          http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Earn-More-Startling/dp/0814472109

          Now, Farrel is no misogynist crank. In fact, he served on the Board of Directors of the National Organization for Women in New York City. He started off as an avowed feminist but eventually fell into disfavor among some groups of feminists due to his work exposing many of their positions as biased – and even outright untruths.

    • why would you say that? first, its typically logical for women to look for a rich husband, not because of their own selfish needs. The number one reason for that is because they want their “children” to have a good environment to grow up with.

      • no they just want nice hand bags and lots of shoes. Kids just keep the guy around so he doesn’t leave for another womans unless they are black cause black man don’t stick around for some reason i donno why.

        • Anonymous

          no they just want nice hand bags and lots of shoes. Kids just keep the guy around so he doesn't leave for another womans unless they are black cause black man don't stick around for some reason i donno why.

          As much as I have to say this guy is right, well, he's right. African-American parents tend to not stick around much. I've lived in the south in Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama and the no. of single parent black families was shocking. This was in middle class neighborhoods mind you not "blue collar" areas. Those area's were about the same as "upper class neighborhoods. You'd have dad's boasting that they actually paid there child support. Sad when stereotype's are propagated by the same people that disdain them.

  • PechapaiLoli says:

    It’s sad that these woman have to view marriage based on a man’s income rather than his heart. I’ve always believed in marrying someone who you’re truly happy with, despite how much is in the person’s wallet.

    It’s understandable that you don’t want your spouse to be poor, but that’s not what you should base your marriage off of. If anything, I think it’s better to marry someone you love while still having enough money to support both of you rather than marrying someone rich and disliking the person.

    Regardless of who you marry, you’ll still be making more income. You might not be able to get as many nice things, but you’ll still have more than you did before and you won’t be alone.

    These women should be pulling their weight as well. It sounds like they expect to let the husband do all the work while they get to do whatever they want. I wouldn’t want to marry someone that greedy/lazy.

    Taking that aside, since most of these virgins are NEETS anyways, how could they even get out there and meet a girl? They need to get out of their holes and make an effort too. If they don’t even try to appeal to women, they’re just as much of a reason for this.

    • The income logic by the most females anyways since a person with a high income has sure not that much time for the female since the money doesn’t come from alone…

      And then these woman start complaining about the men having no time for her. Its just a endless circle.

    • Sadly this is the real world, people will screw each other over to get what they want. No one truly cares about each other any more, I prefer my life of solitude. I feel much happier when I am single then what I had a girlfriend to bug me all the time.

    • It’s a lot of misperception I think. I think many men on this site would be surprised to find that most women really want to choose a partner based on personality before finances. That they chase after affluent men is a correlation to the fact that they are chasing after confident men that they feel would make them feel special and secure. Poorer men, on the other hand, enter a cycle of disappointment and destroyed confidence that’s difficult for them to escape from, and so they lack the personality to attract women. It is actually amazingly easy to be a poor man and attract many women, so long as you have the right personality (look up fastseduction, it may change you anons lifestyle forever)

    • At least we agree that not all the fault is from the same side.
      The problem is none of them doesnt really carse, so they wont find true love since they are not gonna do any effort into it. Even if the NEETs go out to get girls, girls wont like them; and if a girl goes after someone’s moneys, the guy is gonna reject her…. or get laid with her and THEN tell her he doesnt believes in marry or something. Cant think of a solution to this, u cant help someone who does not want your help

  • living expenses is the #1 reason why so many people are poor. these include anime, related merchandise, toys, video games and whatever else otaku related stuff you can think of. seriously all that stuff costs too much that its any wonder how a man in japan is supposed to find money to date a real woman.

    • You are good.. I was thinking the same thing..
      Just didn’t have the courage to jolt it down. I too believe that, that’s why they are so poor. Real woman is the way to go. I’m not trying to talk bad about the people that has pillows or anything. Having a pillow is acually a great idea, experiment of bed sharing.

      • Except you have it wrong because goods are still cheaper than women. Take a look at actual living expenses in Japan and what it realistically costs to go out.
        (eg: A date. A single day at a theme-park is roughly equivalent to the price of an eroge – that could entertain you for several weeks) Source: Cost of a day pass for an adult at Tokyo Disney Land is Β₯5,800 (x2 for you and your leech) Β₯11,200 β†’ Now we take the fact that most good eroge have a price that sits just under Β₯10,000… I’ll leave the decision up to you.
        What is this you say? ‘Who the hell would go on a date at disneyland?’ Then let us go on a McDonalds -> Karaoke course. Your average main meal for two would cost between \1000~2000 followed by a couple of hours karaoke during the busy peak weekend hours (because any other time you are working in order to afford to keep your pet leech) β†’ approximately \400 x4 (30 minute blocks) x2 people = approximately \3200 for 2 hours karaoke… add it all up and you get about \4500 for at most 3-4 hours of gf-time.
        Great, well I could take that \4500 and go buy myself a half decent figure. Not convinced yet? What are you doing on sankaku anyways lol

        TL;DR
        2D>3D

        • In this age, women and children are not assets, but liabilities! They siphon money out and give give no benefits. They might even ruin your health, thus impeding the ability to work. This would impact income!

  • I’m 32, I make around 100k per year, and I’m a virgin. Big fucking deal. In my case, while the sex would be nice, I’m just too lazy to go through the trouble. If I end up with anyone, they’d better be able to hold down a career of their own because I’m not giving up my lifestyle just for sex and companionship. My money is mine and mine alone.

    • nope if you marry them the courts will have to decide weather she gets have your money and assets after she finally finds someone less of a loser than you.

      And we know you would marry her because once you get your cherry popped you will think you are in love because someone finally gave your uglyass a bone.

      then she’ll leave you for a better man and take half your money and your house and car and kids to live with her new daddy, who by the way will have a bigger penis too.

        • Prenups cannot protect you if you have children. A family court judge can – and will – waive and render void any portions of a prenup that they deem to be ‘not in the best interests of the child(ren)’. This means that if the judge believes it’s in the best interests of the kids to give your ex-wife full ownership of your house (even if *you* fully owned that home before getting married and had it all paid off) then your wife gets it and you get to pay her utility bills. If the judge decides that your private checking account will now be transfered to your ex-wifes name, then that is what will happen. A prenup becomes worthless the second a child is born. A prenup is worthless unless you’ve had a vasectomy and can be sure you wont have any kids. If you don’t want to put yourself into a position in which your wife can – by simple fiat – take everything you own (and a large portion of your annual income) by simply filing for divorce proceedings, then don’t get married and don’t have kids. It’s really just that simple.

          Marriage – it’s for suckers.

        • because it ruins the relationship…It’s like I love you, yet I still don’t trust you 100% to let use share our(my shit) with each other. Most of the time wives ripoff their ex husbands for all they have when they’re perfectly able to work and or have a great job to begin with. It like “I hate you so im taking everything you worked for way before you ever met my bipolar ass” If you ask for a pernups the whole relationship could end right there because it shows you don’t trust her at all and it proves she was leeching off you the whole time.

      • as far as I and probably a lot of those virgins see it, one night stands and casual sex is the same as just fapping to pics of idealized fantasy girls. In fact, the latter has probably become the far better alternative. They’re all just endless drugs in the end. Anti-drug drugs even. I feel really good after a fap, then i quickly feel teh ronrys and sadness coming back on. Addictive as hell. In the end I really just want someone to cuddle and love me at night. A life partner. Until then, who cares whither I’m shooting my load in my pants or into some empty fleshy hole…

        I’m sure you guys all know, the pillows are not just for fapping to. This looks all sad and degrading, downright shameful and pathetic even, but it’s also totally psychological and understandable, almost natural… it’s just what happens when the equation comes out to a negative number…

        • This… this is extremely wise. This is exactly it.

          It’s not about sex – sex is cheap and easy. What most of these really want is an actual, genuine relationship. Which, sadly, is just not going to happen for a variety of reasons.

  • “The same survey suggested these poorer men could or would not use prostitutes”

    just shows you that sex isnt everything or that they are extremely poor cus a high school girl is only $30-$40 or was that middleschool girls. correct me if im wrong

  • Poor man, go f*ck yourself.
    NEET is the trash of the society.
    Be rich first than you can enjoy the NEET life.
    Buy stock or land then rent it so you can enjoy being NEET.
    No money, don’t become NEET. Work, earn your way to become NEET. Nobody want to work forever.

  • I feel sad looking at the guy… Because it makes me wonder if I am going to be just like him in 12 years or so…
    He looks like a nice guy anyway, so why would no one wanna talk to him? Well.. Other than the person who took his photo.
    You have to give these kind of men some credit too, you know. They got the balls to carry their pillow or pillows around, I can’t do this..
    Maybe… Since they carry around the pillow… People think they retarded? Man…. This world sucks, so many discrimators.

  • Sad, really. Of course, me soon to be an English teacher there means that I’ll have wages high enough to snag any one of these women, not to mention the blond hair and blue eyes that they so crave, I’m all set.
    But if any of these bitches think they’re going to get married to me and leech off my money flow, they can think again. Marriage is a tradition of society that, like many other traditions, people can’t let go of as if it were some sort of “universal truth.” Not me, I don’t blindly follow society’s stipulations. I’ll be making the new traditions, the logical ones.

  • In time like this we should have swearing booth where a handful of guys get together and pay some bitch off the street and just start swearing at her. That will get their confidence up and to show them that these dreamers is not something to be admire at or chase after; but they are just a mean of reproduction at the end.

  • Hara-Haruko says:

    I watched spike tv’s Manswers. They said the average American penis is 6.5in. Chinese is 5.5in. And Indian is 5.0in. Indians have the smallest but since they’re asian (cause india’s in asia) people assume it’s Japanese or Chinese they’re talking about.

    But don’t take my word. :\