Geisha Bondage Ad Banned for “Submissive Pose”
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Oct 3, 2009 05:17 JST
- Tags: BDSM, Censorship, Feminism, Marketing, Mass Media, Shibari, UK
An artistic ad featuring a bound geisha was banned based on a handful of complaints, with advertising censors condemning it as “condoning sexual violence against women” and observing that “she seemed upset” and was depicted in a “submissive pose.”
The photo itself shows a mildly bound geisha, and is by world famous photographer Nobuyoshi Araki, whose works grace several art galleries.
The exquisite mosaic tiling the geisha rests on is actually the product advertised – Bisazza is an Italian tile maker, and the adverts were carried in several high-end home decor magazines.
The UK’s Advertising Standards Authority, which has the power to ban adverts which offend its puritanical sensibilities, acted on the basis of 6 complaints and condemned the “demeaning” ads, saying the geisha was “shown in a submissive pose, appeared visibly upset and was shown with her kimono pushed up to expose her thigh.”
It asserts the ads condone rape:
“Notwithstanding the highly stylised nature of the ads, we considered the creative treatment could be seen to imply that sexual violence had taken place or was about to take place.”
It has banned the offending ads completely, though some similar ads escaped.
The company responsible defends the “artistic and beautiful” campaign as featuring “no nudity, innuendo, wounds or scenes of excessive perversion.”
The UK has of course recently banned most fetish porn, though the actual acts depicted remain quite legal so long as the person photographing them is actually involved in the sex…
Via the BBC.










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So they need a version of the ad with the geisha smiling happily to show that she is enjoying herself. If anyone objects, the advert makers can say that there is no reason to deny women their pleasure ^^
Or a version with a man in the same pose and expression. That probably won't be banned showing the hypocrisy of this all.
You could show the man in the same position, bound much harsher, his cock showing, and blood coming from a mouth and it wouldn't be banned.
Why is there a lizard in the bottom left-corner of the ad? Please tell me I am not the only one who sees it O.o
Wow, never think that UK would be that fucked up, but it's not really surprise me since the world is all-way like that, hypocrites and moral faggots rule the government.
Tell me about it, our politicians or popularists, tend to bend to any fucking idiot. I really want a revolution.
The UK is fuckin' full of gays.
This basically underlines what a joke "society" has become - out of what, millions of people who potentially saw this a grand total of 6 people apparently had nothing better to do than complain about it. People with too much time on their hands imo, but unfortunately here in the UK, it's these kind of idiots that are running the show.
Lelouch Vi Britannia and V are going to team up to fix this ****ed up world...ALL HAIL LEOUCH V. BRITANNIA!
When V liberates the world, every flag will be switched to the Gurren Brigade Banner!
High General Mustang will force every women in the armed forces to wear super short miniskirts!
I feel bad. I actually get all those references. I mean, it's not like there's a lot of them, but still.
You're not the only one who watches Code Geass, Gurren Lagann and FMA. Nothing to feel bad about.
We need 2ch to possess a death note so the whole world will moves our way.
Of course it implies violence, because nobody ever does bondage willingly. What kind of freak would do that, AMIRITE?
I hope that was meant sarcastic...> >
I like wrist bondage, because it's SEXY...:P Especially with a tie^^
AMIRITE usually implies sarcasm, so no worries. And I honestly can't imagine that a person who would think such bullshit would possibly be able to find this site even by accident...
Of course the other way around it'd probably be called a positive empowering example for women.
Okay, we are doomed...
If this harmless piece of actual art faces ban, then what understanding/tolerance are we, otaku are waiting for?!
Dunno what feminazi stated she looks upset but that expression looks rather 'plastic'( meaning that it doesn't even look like she expressing any natural emotion...)
Plus she is no sexual turn-on at all...
Those bitches should go and have a date with their therapists 'cause seeing anything wrong into this picture IS fu*ed up compared to being a 2D lolicon or a hentai fan!!
"Thigh is showing."
With that sort of attitude, I'm surprised they didn't hunt down the model, tie her to a stake, and burn her for not wearing something that covered all but her eyes.
I find this ridiculous. I see nothing that suggests Rape.
Freedom of expression is soon to be dead. I'm sad. I love art.
Isn't that the whole point of art (modern), to invoke senses?
Banning it would just defeat the purpose and is quite contradictory.
We need to stand up to the moral fags and their political correctness censorship it's going to far.
Now is the time for revolution.
This is what Britain is all about now didn't you? Banning the slightest thing that could 'offend'. Our government is filled with usless MP's. NuLabour did achieve one thing however, which was to create more laws...It's funny their recent campaigns to stay in have been nothing but 'We're not like the Conservatives!' Both parties are rotten to the core. I guess the only choice is between the Liberal Democrats or Green Party and possibly UKIP, they seem less detrimental to the people of the country.
It's not surprising when we got morailistic ignorant tards in power i.e. John Beyer (this guys wanted to put people in jail for looking at porn, at least he's retired now), Harriet 'Hate'man or who can forget Liz Longhust (the very one who brought upon the Dangerous Pictures Act that pretty much killed every fetish out there and made those who enjoy it criminals). The government has been enjoying this sleuth of given power by these pro-censorship nutters. So why would the state not accept the offer of more control?
The ASA has been reduced to quivering cowards. They're afraid of the state punishing them should they do anything that offends others. The one to look out for really is Media Watch UK, the one Beyer was head of.
All of this started with just one case. The Liz Longhurst case. Ever since pictures that are deemed 'offensive' or 'dangerous' the pro-censorship twats have gained more confidence in inserting crazy ass laws and control other the public and the government laps it up. This also gives the state an excuse to 'protect' society. How the hell are we to hold the 2012 Olympics if we're that intolerant of anything? I can imagine foreigners being arrested left, right and center. At times like this I do wish even more that we had real Freedom of Speech like hardlined in the constitution of the US.
Only just recently did we get a Supreme Court. I don't know if that's a good thing or bad looking at who runs the country at the moment. We need Zero!! Or someone equivelant...V, I hope you're out there.
I thought it started in the 60s or 70s when some old bitch who wouldn't die thought everything on tv was against proper christian values. She had every network sued and forced the tv censors to edit shit out of every channel.
Yes a christ fundy...
Haha that too, though what I meant was in recent years. There were little to no peep of complaints until that whole fiasco. Once it was announced that the DPA was in act, the pro-censorship organizations had the oppurtunity to go on a crusade again. We were pretty mellowed out before then or mellowing out. I guess you could blame the News recently that puts a negative spin on almost anything. Hell even in The Guardian (I think) there was an article regarding the UK falling into Pedophile Paranoia which is very visible. The people here have been mainpulated to be afraid of almost anything. But if anything it's the government, or shall I say NuLabour, that screwed us over.
oh please. there's been sexual violence on men as well. I think i recall a news post on SC about a woman chopping off a guys penis.
besides.. shibari is just a fetish, and it works well on women's figures. It just doesn't look right on men.
Zetsuboushita...even. exit, stage left.
Rape bad, child sex changes good?
fucking feminazis!!! freedom of expression is dead.
Actually it was men who decided that since at the ASA mainly men work.
Well, they aren't going to avoid getting a bad rep unless they actually stand up and do something for free speech. So tough shit, feminazis.
Actually it was feminazis who lobbied for a policy/code of practice change in how the ASA handles advertisements. Obviously the organization's leaders (men) of the ASA decided to lube up and bend over and taste some feminazi cock.
+1
Art is art. Art can influence, however, art cannot force. These protect female rights thing is getting to be a bit absurd. At the rate they're going, they'll be banning everything pertaining to erotica eventually. Now where's the sense in that?
This is not art. This is a magazine ad. Banning ads is different and does not mean the exact same image would be banned from an art gallery, or even from a coffee-table book sold in a major bookstore.
Advertising, by its nature, is "pushed" onto the viewer. No one wants to view an ad. Ads are forced into the public's eye on conspicuous billboards. Ads are inserted into television programs - one minute you're watching the program you choose to watch, the next minute you are watching an ad that you didn't choose. Ads are hidden in magazine - you flip the page no knowing whether you'll see an article or an ad.
You can choose to buy a bondage magazine, or you can choose to never buy a bondage magazine. The problem with the ad is, bondage is being pushed onto people who did not choose to see it.
Touche
No problem, here. If anything erotic is banned you just have to go out and rape some woman / girl / child. Seems that is exactly what the femnazis want, some good old rape...
I blame people dirty minds thinking that it was that wrong,since people don't think well sometimes.The way they think what will happen or what happened is not right,the pic shows you only that moment there is no before or after moment.
I find this artistic,nothing more nothing less.
While I don't really agree with the banning, it's just a piece of tastless errr ...art?
"visibly upset"?
She looks more bored then anything else and since when is showing your thigh considered something perverse? What is this the 1800s?
Okay, the brit shits are starting to piss me off
+9000
Hey don't blame us for the retarded bullcrap this nanny state pushes on us. We didn't even elect Gordon Brown. I am actually going to complain that I don't find the ad offensive and who knows maybe they'll stop this stupid charade. gotta admit it's unlikely that they'll do it.
Anyone else who lives in the UK please do the same.
They should just stick with their trannys.
I was extremely offended. Material this far over the line makes beer commercials seem like nothing. Good thing I'm not the only one butthurt and we can stop this abomination.
WOW Now that's what I call sarcasm!!!!
he was dead serious, you know.
If he really (I think not) was serious he's a shining example of an asshole.
All the ads about shaving products for woman are way more...eww...18+
wasted ads
2d-raep would look&sell better. Equality now would ignore this shit since it ain't 2d.
I'd say brits are normal to react at this point. Prefer hardcore stuff to be limited to 2d since it makes it more tolerable.
fuck that they should focus on this crap and leave our 2d alone!
What the.
fuck censorship
Submissive is always good
sheesh! equality now don't know what means sarcasm... they can start world war III because of you!
You people need to realize that this sort of thing might be admissable if it wasn't for the extreme popularity and the rediculousness of things like Queen's Blade and all the other full blown rape games, videos, and images. While I agree completely that it doesn't make much sense, people know of the extreme shit, and then aren't happy to allow something innocent like this. You rape what you sow.
Cry more, crazy man.
They banned it due to "Politicaly Correctness" which says that NOTHING is acceptable if it offends just one person in your country.
It has nothing to do with what goes on in Japan (or is exported). Odds are that it is just a couple of overly sensitive women who complained because they don't like that they are welcome, and sure as hell don't like that for women to have sex, they have to submit to their partner. Anything that reminds them in the slightest of this, offends them.
Did you just compare Queen's Blade to "rape games, videos, and images"?
Are you retarded? The society depicted in Queen's Blade is a fucking matriarchy, with men reduced to powerless, unimportant bystanders (exceptions notwithstanding) too insignificant to show more than 1 or 2 of them per episode, usually as simple townsfolk or other forms of noninvolved bystanders...
Women are depicted as strong and powerful in every sense of the word. It's every feminist's wet dream...
I like my girls submissive...
I wish people would take this seriously. If you don't stand up for freedom of expression now, it's going to be taken away. How do you think so many banning laws have been passed with studies proving the Opposite of what all these butthurt cencorship groups are saying.
Because enough of us aren't speaking up. And since Equality Now isn't listening, we need to go to the people they go to to be heard.
If only the UK had Freedom of Expression to begin with. Unfortunately no one can oppose the government because we lack Freedom of Speech.
Fuck the britz anyway, they ways think they're so much better than the yanks yet their country is turning way sooner into a totalitarian than the 'amerikkkans' they so eagerd to mock. I'll enjoy watch them burn in hell.
*implies you'll also be there*
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Not a freedom of expression issue, per se.
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This actually says "Yes my lol'd."
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Tex, "freedom of expression" means your right to create and publish content of any form, regardless of how other people feel like it, and as long as it does not violate the law. This is equivalent to "freedom of speech" but is often used in the context of created works, rather than plain speech.
Consequently, a country that issues bans based on subjective 3rd party views cannot be considered free. They always start with things that are socially unacceptable (porn, jews) and then move to other things such as "offensive" political messages which "cause social disturbance", protests and the opposition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlgQ5h2ySJ0
Agreed! ALL HEIL LELOUCH!
Well, it's the UK's sandbox, advertising-wise, but still....
Jesus-Fucking-CHRIST! >< They're more prudish than our 'feminists' and moralfag population here in the US! Didn't the Puritans LEAVE the UK because they were too lax?! o_0 Or did some of them sneak back in while no one was looking?
No, because the UK is the most politically correct country in the world. Seriously, they would even ban their own St. George's Cross fearing it might offend the muslims.
It's over. UK is finished.
The latter seems more likely. The Pilgrims started their colony in 1620, the English Civil War lasted from 1641–1651, and Cromwell's religious beliefs were Puritan in nature.
I can get 6 people to complain that the United Kingdom exists.
If I can get them to write to the UK government do you think they'll cater to those 6 people and disband their ****ing moralistic jackass country?
Go for it! The UK is busy breaking itself down and apart anyway. This would just hasten it.
This is pretty win.
I don't know, she doesn't look too upset to me. Maybe a little bored, but it looks like shes smirking a little. So all in all I think she was just annoyed at how long the photo shoot was taking.
if you look closely, you can indeed make out a slight bit of acted submission/pain/reproach. but it's very slight and any sane human can make out that it's not real.
the justification is typical too: we see that it's not offensive at all, but we ban it anyway. just because.
how about, say, 7 people complain that they do NOT find the ad offensive and want it back on display?
I always find hilarious how puritanists think that by closing their eyes all evil will go away...
And how they think no one could ever _like_ being bound up, spanked (she looks like she wants), and taken hard (definitely she wants).
But no~... She's bound up against her will and is about to get raeped.
lol, Britfags.
Kind of glad I don't live in the UK right now...
While I don't agree with the reasoning behind the banning, this ad seems a bit odd to be advertising tile with in the first place.
If the Bisazza tile company was going for shock value for attention to their product, they succeeded. It's just a really weird way of going about it. And for.. tile?
*sigh*.....fucking stupid Brits...WHO CARES if it condones sexual violence against women!? And its not anyways.
ITS FREAKIN BONDAGE!!
shes supposed to be submissive.
no S would like to be M'd.
Besides that, arts like this exist since the acient egypt.
bondage is win. and fun, too...
You know, submissive isn't bad per se, but it has to be voluntarily submissive. Forced submissive is the bad kind. I don't really see why people have that much problems with submissive poses.
Feminazis do, since the thought of a woman enjoying to be submissive hurts their ego greatly. Doesn't matter to them that not all women are like that (and only a small minority would ever take it to BDSM levels...), and that it bears no implications whatsoever for the female gender as a whole.
But since they're the only ones whining about it, and also tend to be the ones who cry the loudest, they usually succeed in making themselves heard.
How the fuck does bondage porn = implied rape? There's nothing non-consensual about it.
Oh boy socialism sure seems fun.
And yet again UK shows it's stupidity. It's more like police state now. Yeah, ban every form of art, that's the way to go... :/
When will this moral fagottry end? I don't want another middle ages.
I think it makes sense, why other reason is there to buy a tile if not to rape somebody over it?
same thing as sodas and even cereals commercials
that only display bare asses all the time
So THAT'S why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch! It's been the rape connotations all this time, and I never noticed!