Equality Now’s Lies Exposed
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Oct 1, 2009 16:05 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Internet, Politics, Raep, Sankaku Complex, USA
Notorious pro-censorship group Equality Now has been exposed as the deceitful and manipulative group many long suspected it to be with the revelation that it is shamelessly cherry picking comments from Sankaku Complex and attempting to pass them off as the opinions of “game bloggers” and “online gamers” in order to justify its crusade against Japanese pornography.
The group is still attempting to organise a concerted campaign to bombard various Japanese political figures it feels might cave in to its demands with form letters, and it leads its latest update with a series of inflammatory quotes picked from Sankaku Complex’s all but unmoderated comments (visible here and here):
Of the many thousands of comments on their efforts to ban “hentai” across dozens of posts on this site, they highlight only the most deranged or trollish, whilst ignoring countless comments offering reasoned analysis of the falsehoods they misrepresent as research or grassroots opinion.
They have dismissed what they admit as an unprecedented online backlash as “hate mail,” and failed to address any of the concerns raised about the flawed “research” they present, most of which apparently stems from feminist anti-pornography campaign groups.
Now it seems they are reduced to outright fabrication and deceit, being unable even to truthfully source the less than representative comments they would like to dupe the world and their members into believing represents the corrupted misogynist users of such games, and of pornography in general.
Some are beginning to wonder if a group which appropriates donations on the pretence of trying to combat such abominable practices as female circumcision but in fact uses these donations to support its radical feminist anti-pornography agenda should even be representing itself as a group which “works to end violence and discrimination against women and girls.”
How childish of them.
What I wonder from a long time ago is why most of female anti porn activist are obese ugly old hags while most porn actresses or erotic models are young cute galls? It's a kind of "bitches feud"? Or just plain envy mixed with frustration?
Gotta think about it, just picture one of the Hugh Hefner bitches in a bunny suit side by side with agnes chan or another ugly old feminist activist.
On a side note, congratz Artefact on such a success of your website that political groups are using its content.
GTFO old hags! Go finger urself in hell!
EPIC PWNGE!! NOW WHO'S WITH ME??!! XD
So all you have to do is make the most shocking disturbing comment and you will be quoted in politics? Cool, puts on trollmask.
Either kill all those bitches or show the world what delusional idiots they are.
Informing the sources of their money about what bullshit these femnazis waste said money on could prove quite effective.
Schrobby, violence isn't exactly the best option to use against these people. You'll just be proving their point.
These people seem to be intent on picking on the lesser evils. Considering otakus, and the general populace into 2d in japan are into 2d because they reject 3d.
That said, I highly doubt otakus should even be considered possible sexual predators. The majority of them are just forum/imageboard lurkers, and normal people in real life. The internet isn't serious business, after all.
They're trying to point out a problem in a minority to destroy a majority, and to me, this seems like their intently picking a fight regarding something that's irrelevant.
Personally, I believe that women should just stay in the kitchen and make me sandwiches. They should also be tied down to the stove in case they try to run away.
Of course, I'm just being sarcastic.
They will conveniently omit that last sentence when quiting you... (was that your plan? =)
May this be a LESSON TO ALL OF YOU!!!! STOP putting ignorant bullshit they can use against you. You DUMBASSES.
Why you should never get married?
God isn't......nuf explained.
They've tried to ban posts on this site. *sigh* Jeez, how did they find SC. They don't give a crap about real women.
SanCon is pop culture now. O,o
its worldwide aswell =D
fantastic how the world unites under one flag against inequality now, isnt it ? ^^
So if i bash hard enough on women i can end up on their "research"?
Women deserve dicks and a right to bear children, nuf said.
watch schrobby to be the next one they quote on their site
@Shuu
You read my mind! :O
Oh wait, here's more!
"If my woman would ever try to speak with other men without my permission, I'll whip her up with a leather whip for as much as I want.
She will be covered in layers of dark clothing every single time we go out. At home, she will be naked while serving my needs. Be it making me sandwiches, or giving me blowjobs."
There, more crap for those ugly excuses for beauty pageant rejects.
"Obese ugly old hags" are not in wide demand in the erotica and pornography industries for obvious reasons. On the other hand, however, I have come across too many "young cute galls" who are indeed of the anti-porn persuasion. And that's a shame.
Most of the "young cute galls" who happen to be on the anti porn persuassion most of the time are real WHORES who do that kind of shit to please their families. In a detailed inspection you will find that the "leaders" of that kind of shit are always old obese hags.
The sad fact is the rape in Japan is mostly due to cultural reasons. One of them being sexual oppression, which even now still goes on. Which has lead to a wide perversion and so many strange alternative sex styles. Even as far back as 500 years ago. Their culture has forced itself into this situation by censorship, and the irony is they are attempting to return it even deeper into the censorship that has lead to the perverse nature of their society.
GTFO troll.
That is not fact, that is nothing but your own delusional beliefs. True fact is Japan is statistically low in occurrence of rape, if you really want to complain about rape, then look at South Africa. Next time look at true statistics and learn the real Japanese culture instead of your deluded fantasy.
Africa should be equality now's target. Solution to that : Nuke Africa. UN Fund suckers.
Where the hell are YOU getting your history?
Nice to see Equality is going for what a 4th troll comment now, do us all a favor and just stop spouting BS nobody wants to hear.
The US should just mind it's on business, Once the US finally falls, India or China will impose on the US telling them what to do and what's allowed.
How ironically sad.
really?....
Bitter old hags, shop bashing on the Japanese, Like Americans or any other race are any different. If anything, you should stop domestic abuse before you fail your way into the international stage. If your reading this "Equality Now" Know this... You are trollers and nothing more than a bunch of no idea'd preachers of crap. If you have the balls to condemn the Japanese people and what they do, atleast find the proper evidence, not some mishmash crap you see on the internet like your lovely Wikipedia. Go read a book you tards.
Don't bother talking to those misleading whores. We're all better off building up support for groups apposed to them.
If their getting their info from this site they are obviously overlooking the "Muslim-loli marriage news, rape news, etc." to save women "everywhere"
Well if they target the Moslem world.They certainly get the Fatwa of death and will be the next target for a bunch of exploding men/women.So like a bunch of wussies they pick a fight with what they think as an easier target---The Japanese Pornography especially Hentai anime and Games.
But we will fight back.Hell the japanese also fight back.Equality Now their days are numbered.
By the way,Equality made a stupid move by picking Japan ,the nation that would not stopped fighting the world until TWO ATOMIC BOMB drop on their backyard.YES Japan is still VERY HARDCORE even with a lot of moe's around.
+1! I'd like to see the alternative reality of Japan ruling the world!
You mean they don't already?
Japan has Gundams..
they should watch what they say, pointing fingers like that will get them hulk-smashed
Got an Idea: Why not hack Equality Now mail server and demand action against woman ill treat in middle east and muslim contries. That way muslim TERRORIST will declare a fatwa against EN FAT hags and that way two birds wil be hit with the same stone. PROFIT.
1. Hack EN's mail servers, demand action against ill-treated women in middle-east and Muslim countires.
2. Muslim Terrorists declare fatwa against EN.
3.?????
4. PROFIT!!!!!!
In all seriousness, Equality Now should be renamed to Fat Old Hags Who Sit On Their Ass Now.
it's well known that if women were good, god will have one!
this is what sankaku does too
This is becoming a real-life World According to Garp.
I think Equality Now should just promote Feminism awareness in Japan and let the Japanese women decide what's best for Japanese women
I think that you should shut the fuck up.
U MAD?
"How childish."
Hmmmm - makes one wonder if they've said anything on extraditing Roman Polanski for "rape-rape" of a child.
(cue crickets)
*cues laughter*
OMG SanCom is affecting the balance of power.
Screw Equality Now, Hentai is what saving me from drug >_<
Yeah if It's not Violent Video Games Saving Me from Doing Drugs Then It's hentai >_>
^QFT
Yo Equality Now I'm happy for you imma let you finish but doing the 13-years-old was the best of all time. OF ALL TIME!
I know I should be sick of this meme, but I honestly started laughing at this.
Yeah, I seconded. ^^;
Lol! Nice Kanye reference.
You Lie!
In after Joe Wilson
:D
i 3rd it. XD
Fapping on a nightly basis to 2D porn, or going out of my way to spend ridiculous amounts of money on prostitution and risking jailtime for rape, drugs and theft.
I am sure the answer to staying a 'bad but not evil person' is obvious.
Not to mention risk of contracting venereal diseases or AIDS.
Actually hentai is the most peaceful form of sexual activity...
very true. cheaper, wont't land you in jail (unless playing loli beside party van) and has a large variety of genre's w/o the hassle of being jailed.
And you don't bother real human beings, it's just you in the private of your house.
Useless pieces of shit.
One of the comments was MikeeUSA.
I love that guy.
I'm surprised that that misogynistic shitstain was actually useful for something! :o
You can hardly call it useful. His comment just appeared on that
pool of faeceswebsite.Equality Now is a group of whiners. This hear me roar shit has gotta stop. If you EN is that closed minded they can't grasp a fantasy cocpet they probably play themselves......that's sad. Not to mention there are more pressing matters to address in the form of equality than some japanese persons hentai sim.
I'm not surprised. It's so typical.
It's somewhat funny that they have an Arabic site but never whines about equality in Saudi Arabia or even in the general Middle East.
READ THIS:
Equality IS AFRAID OF SUICIDE BOMBERS TARGETTING THIER ASSES ALL THE TIME.
Equality Now is a fucking hypocrite, they focus on virtual stuff while millions of real women are suffering.
Absolutely!!!! They don't give a crap about 'Minority Womens' issues - all they care about is "settling the Score" with some dude who probably dumped her ass for being her nasty ass self!
If they really believed the crap they spouted, they'd not be cherry-picking hentai, but going after ALL porn. But you don't see them doing that, now, do you?
Also, Gantz_Playboy: Awesome Profile Pic... ^-^b
Oh I know, Saki & Maderame are my favs on "Genshiken" but I love Ougie-chan's faces and her tsundere attitude. The girl who does her English voice does her very soft but mildly angry - lol.
I love this scene where she gets caught at the Yuri Event.
But it's a shame the anime didn't use the same ending as the manga version.. but i still like both version..
Actually it was a yaoi event. Proving that despite her denials she liked to see guys go at each other, at least in drawn fantasy fiction, all the while yelling up and down how it's filthy and any woman who loks at it is a nasty mentally fucked up whore.
That sounds awfully familiar for some reason...
I agree with Gantz_Playboy.
Imo, equality now is just a sexist group of old hags who haven't fucked in far too long.
I rather they didn't fuck AT ALL. What if they become pregnant and spread their retarded genes everywhere? not to mention the suffering of the poor losers who have to fuck these sorry excuses of poo; no thank you.
Ever considered the possibility that they might've been dumped for 2D girls? LOL.
it all makes sense now
it's the real life chobits
This is it! This is why EN is so uptight about 2D.
Shotaku speaks the truth.
Doing the 13 year old was the best. ^_^
I don't see what's so offensive about this comment. Male attraction to women of fertile age is completely normal.
Somebody PLEASE think of the imaginary children!
YES!
The imaginary children need a job,they don't want to be just in one mind.They want to be on paper,games etc.
And truly live their potentials then rather not exist.
They don't hurt anyone and they are never really hurt.It's just their part of their job in ficion.
˝Doing the 13 year old was the best˝
Well since it's only fictionary it can't be bad and it was very positive to him.I don't see nothing wrong with it.
Now people who don't like it should not check it at all.There are people who will always enjoy this kind of fiction,other people just don't accept people with their own interests.
So the other people are spreading unnede hate across the world where they don't even need to put their noses inside.
fonzer... you used a double negative... I think.
"I don't see nothing wrong with that" = you actually see something wrong with it.
I'm all for the theory these equality now members have only little reason to do what they are doing... those reasons need to be dealt with, and as a community, I pose to you all that we take matters into our own hands and moderate offensive comments, slightly... if they are indeed bad...
I also want us all to protect girls in other people's societies if necessary, literally going to other countries and joining their police forces, or starting a vigilante group up dedicated to the proper treatment of all people... equally.
Singed LonerGoth (I forgot my log in details.)
There are languages where double negative isn't positive, like Russian.
LonerGoth, the problem is: they don't give a fucking damn about living women. They just wanna do something flashy; it won't matter 3D women are still going to suffer from many things, but they'd have RESULTS.
1 gram of good presentation is better than a ton of hard work.
actualy it's nothing wrong with it when it's only fiction,ehh if it was a mistake then my bad.
To me it doesn't seem like i said that there is something wrong with it and what is this double negative?
Reading it normaly to me seems like i said it right.Even that added don't word shouldn't interfere soo much.
Pics or it didn't happen
So how should anon react to this insult?
This is madness!
Madness?
THIS IS S-Doing the 13 year old girl was the best-PARTA!
^THIS
no, this is patrick.
Patrick!?
Is this the Krusty Krab?
How...?
I wonder how come their website isn't ddos'd already. /b/tards are bored as usual... maybe it's highest time to give them new target for their entertainment
I second this! C'mon we gotta bring those bitches down!
Yep. Protecting virtual girls is more productive than defending real women in places such as Saudi Arabia.
I don't think they give a shit about Arabia. This group is mostly US centric. They want to protect their own view in their own country and don't like the contemporary liberal youth attitude towards sexuality and entertainment. They kind of want to force their own opinion on everyone in the area. That's why they are bitching so much about Internet media. As if any geek / otaku sitting in front of a screen would actually do any harm. And what's in for the kids? Well, nobody dares to even speak to them any more because everyone is afraid they might be misunderstood as molesters. And the kids obviously don't gain much social skills because of this and become braindead fucktards. Brave new world.
READ THIS AGAIN:
Equality now IS AND STILL AFRAID OF SOME SUICIDE BOMBERS TARGETTING THEIR WRINKLED BUTTS!!
Heh. Ohhhhhhh, EN~
Everything falls, and I'm seeing EN's side of the coin.
Now I'm more curious of seeing how EN will continue their futile way of expressing an opinion.
Wow, there wasn't even a minute trace of "equality" with regards to their single-minded bias is there?
Their organization is no less different to fanatical groups who think cockfighting and gays deserve a political seat in congress for selfish gains. Yawn...
Homosexuals are gay:
http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/4282008123652AM_132.jpg
Faggots, feminist and liberals are the cancer of modern society. We need a new RONALD REAGAN for the LULZ.
HEY!! wait? a ref to the Ron-Man?....Dad? is that you?- lol.
I'm your father, Luke.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT CANT BE
Reagan was the greatest democratic patriot America had in power. Reaganomics will fix the current crisis in a wink.
Try putting Ronald McDonald in the President's Oval Office. (With the Hamburglar for VP, and Early Birdie for Secretary of State)
We've had enough clowns in the Executive Office already.... why not him? ^^
FREE HAPPY MEALS FOR EVERYBODY!
Well, now you have a bodevil bl4ckface instead of a lider, serves yu right ;)
You know what's FUN? Heckle shitheads on TV forums about how awful and unrealistic "Glee" (the TV show) is and that the Gay character Kurt is killing the show and driving away viewers with his Over-The-Top Gayness!
There's no one more uptight than an 'Open Minded Liberal' when you express an Opinion they don't like!
I really don't understand why a shit like "Glee" got a green light in a time like this.
This is a time of social darwinism, the era of the survival of the fittest, and articles like the ones in this page about men who can't get pussy bcause the're poor are the proof of that.
In a time and country were being super competitive is a MUST, a TV shows who tells people that "loosers will inherit Earth" is anything but needed.
And by the way the ugly, bl4ck, fat cow in Glee needs to keep away from grass for a couple... OF DECADES
"Homosexuals are gay"
http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/captainobvious.jpg
fucking dumb equality now. and they are trying to brand hentai as a cult. wtf dumbasses.
trolling, it is serious business IRL
I LOL'd
hooray for copy and paste!
so they go on SanCom to get their sources? isn't that ironic.
I scrolled down, and saw this, and proceed to laugh my ass off.
ditto.
Looks like Anon's trolling served a purpose for the Greater Good *this* time around.
Bravo, Brothers and Sisters.... bravo. ^_-
Too true.
+ endless eight.
Haha I had my post deleted off their YouTube video. It got several thumbs up and showed their failure pretty clearly. Nothing less to expect from their stupidity.
"thumbs up" bro, keep the hatred flowing...
link to that video please?
I wanna that video so I can give you a thumbs up myself.
Kind of hard to do that when the comment is deleted.
As much as they want to do the right thing for women,they haven't even done a damn thing about what happen to a Japanese women who was rape in College other then attacking a Blogger they don't like.
nor did they do anything about the countries where marrying and impragnanting 10 year old girls are AWWRIGHT...
Hey now, don't go giving them any ideas.
I c wat u did thar
They been pointing the Finger at Sankaku Complex reporting about it, and Anime fans are anger by "Equality Now" for a reason.
no wonder the world is distorted...its not al qaeda ruining the world..its a ragtag group called Equality Now making excuses that pornography ruined the world
as quoted from Charles Di Britannia
"The world is full of lies!, Thou shall not kill, Thou shall not steal, Thou shall not bear false witness, Thou shall not commit adultery, These are all lies, all deceptions.
That is why they use lies like justice and morals to protect their weak selves. The original truth is the survival of the fittest, One must devour it all, whether be it humans,wealth,power,or the world itself! ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!"
ROFL
/cheer
Code Geass ref FTW
ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!!!
WHAT IS A MAN? -SoTN
I hope Japan already knows how small and extremist a group Equality Now is, and they do not in any way represent the opinion of the entire world.
In short, Japan tell these bitches to fuck off! This ain't gonna stop until you do.
If Japan really cared about the rest of the world's thoughts they would have stopped doing things like hunting whales by now.
you do understand that whaling is something cultural like how hentai is right?
Hey whaling with the right rules and laws cannot hurt the enviroment,jackass!Read the goddamn biology books again.Not some PETA bullshit.
Dont judge Japan by its cover.When do you care about the enviroment while u still using oil on your car?Get it?Stop the enviroment shit!This post is about hentai dammit.
I don't own a car :o !
If either of you idiots used your brains for a moment you would realize that the point was that if Japan gave a shit about public opinion they would have stopped whaling. Since they haven't stopped whaling, they don't give a shit, hence they will not give a shit about outside complaints about hentai.
Yes they will. There are plenty forces within Japan that have been lobbying for a ban on hentai for ages, and they've gained quite a bit of power in recent years. Outside pressure is exactly what they've been waiting for.
lol thats so funny.
facepalm.jpg
foul play muthafuckers! If they think they are so damned powerful then why don't they make us a sandwich?
I think over 70% of the protesters are soccer moms and women that will not have a partner in their lives
Actually, I think most of EN's supporters are simply uneducated on matters. I doubt most of the people who go to EN's site to support them do research outside of that one site.
Basically it's just a cult. They refuse to take real evidence and instead mold something they find online into the opinion of the world.
Hmm, it's pretty similar to a cult, only I don't think everyone is as fanatical as the leaders themselves, and you aren't FORCED to stay with them.
The people I've actually talked to about EN start to wise up pretty quick after a simple comment of "Do the research on them".
There's no doubt that EN uses similar tactics and has a similar mindset, though.
"The people don't want to hear the truth. All you need is a loud voice, and a noble cause, and the people will believe anything you tell them to be the truth."
^Apparently, [In]Equality Now, as well as a certain party, believes in the words of Col. Dewey Novak. Now they've been exposed on their posts. All we need now are some effeminate men to dress as "convincing" traps and videotape their gatherings.
I'm kinda interested in knowing where their major donations come from...
Angry Shitheads like Miss Mimi probably. Someone needs to send this to her Blog and rub her nose in her FAILURE as a Feminazi.
Sure, but I was thinking more along the lines of major companies / organizations that support EN.
I personally don't understand why Miss Mimi tries to comment here. I mean, I have no problem with it, but it makes me believe she's a bit of a masochist to do so.
She should know what kind of response to "It's fine to treat men like livestock, in fact, it's not enough" would get her. Never mind the fact that the commentors are mostly male.
It is true? Some of the disgusting bitter feminazi COWS of Equality Now dare to write an opinion on this page? That was sure for tha LULZ
What Ayu and Prag said. Their most important fund-raiser other than that is - of all people - Joss Whedon...
It looked to me like Mimi wanted to make herself known in Sankaku but blew it up, now she has to stand up to her beliefs, like hating K-On.
@anon#308512: she even has in her blog full fledged posts about Equality Now and discrimination about women, go check it out.
Actually the most money they get comes from tax-money...
http://core.nctritech.com:86/do/2007_EN_taxreturn.pdf
Enjoy.
shouldnt somebody be taking these people to court?...
this world really needs to change, people need to learn to accept each other, and not be like these nazis.
Not bashing the US but, these women are just ultraconservatives whom use EN as a facade for their politically motivated stuff. Why does the US always pump out this crap? They know its impossible for the rest of the world to argue it when they have the power to pull the strings.
I loled who takes trolls seriously orz
I wonder what EN's hags think of games like discipline, where the main char (a guy) is abused of most of the time...
I don't know what THEY think, but if there's an option to put him in a dress I know I like the idea.
Some of the EN corps probably HAVE Discipline in their HDs right now.... I wouldn't put it past 'em.
EN also stand for EXtreme NOW
Sure is extremist feminazi idiocy in there, Equality Now.
LOL
Looks like they are losing steam and trying to get it back. The mass media has already gotten bored and is moving on.
Sadly, Sankaku Complex is an irony-free zone. I wonder if anyone here realises that you don't have to "cherry-pick" responses from Sankaku to show a lot of fans are hateful, violent, sexist, disgusting pigs who don't do ANYTHING to support their own position. The common response here is less "no we're not all a bunch of perverts" than "yes, we're all perverts, which is perfectly OK since you bitches only exist for us to rape anyway." Fuck you.
I don't agree with EN, but frankly you're bringing it on yourselves. You deserve this bullshit.
0/10, try harder plz
Are you really talking about SC? Yeah there were a lot of hateful comments but there were also a lot of comments which brought up logical arguments.
Most noteworthy would be that Lunar guy who always have references to back up his arguments and even made a website with ready made letters!
LunarSD, although one - if not the - main writer of Yes to Freedom (http://yestofreedom.org) is not the only member of the organisation, and is not the one who created the website.
See the "about" page of our site for a more exhaustive list of YtF's active members.
this is the internet
Because if fucktard feminazi groups like Equality Now didn't bitch about Japan's H anime and game industry, then the majority of the people here won't have to give a bullshit about feminists.
I couldn't just blame the people here spitting out even the worst of demeaning words against radical feminazi groups like the EN.
EN deserves to be badmouthed because it started all the BS which has been happening until now. What EN sows is what it reaps.
In a world where speech is protected it is no surprise that conflicting views come to surface. On this site there are a multitude of people with opinions that may at times contradict themselves. However, to cherry-pick comments and generalize about the whole would be a logical fallacy.
The same holds true of feminists. Just because a significant portion of feminists hate men and another portion loves men does not mean that all feminists hate men or all feminists love men.
I find it interesting that EN would rather focus on the opinions of a few members of Sankaku rather than focus on broad data. Surely, the inverse correlation between prevalence of pornography and sexual assault would hold greater weight when it comes to policy making.
Could EN be using this ploy to appeal to emotion? I think so.
Quite a few extremist organizations fall back on emotional appeals.
Just look at PETA as a prime example...
Uhg, I honestly hate PETA. It's hard for me to decide who is worse between them and EN. I love animals, and their shenanigans are monstrous at best. I lost track of who forgot their 'intended' (intended being what they claim to be about) goals first. Peta may actually win that round after the whole "freezer full of dead animals" thing.
PETA is the same organisation that a few years back goes on US national tv's saying that Beer is better than Milk.
No THATS IS REALLY FUCK UP FUNNY!!
I would like to hear what would you respond to your own question... An ironic response maybe, the truth, or mere faggotry
SC irony-free zone? Bwahahahahahahahaha~
This means they must be aware of the negative correlation between loli media and child rape in Japan. So they're continuing on this crusade knowing more girls are likely to be raped as a result.
Can we get them de-listed as a charity for pursuing non-charitable goals?
I like this idea. Anyone know a way we can go about it?
Nonprofit organizations under US 501(c)(3) classification are allowed to spend an "insubstantial" portion of their total donations on lobbying. They are also not prevented from having political views. They cannot endorse any political candidate in particular, but they can tell their members how they ought to vote to support their goals. If a nonprofit is operating in a for-profit manner, or if they are not working for the betterment of society or some aspect of it in general, they may lose their nonprofit status. Proving this may be very difficult for EN, however. I've explored the idea already and found that complaining to the Internal Revenue Service to have their 501c3 status pulled would likely fail. Still, we need to keep watch and see what they do.
who lives in the US?
Looking at their tax returns, they're just reeling in the cash from random sources that have nothing to do with their agenda.
Pathetic really.
I hope someone hacks their sites, credits (with links) to the posts, and many of the backlash such comments they receive. THEN post pure win posts by the likes of Atma in the same articles. Maybe, just maybe, they'd lose support when their followers are educated to the fact that hentai isn't evil, and that the people they're supporting are, in fact, leading them by their own ignorance.
I haven't seen Atma around in a while though. She may have RL issues to deal with, or she's just browsing when she can and doesn't have time to chime in.
But yeah... leave it to a member of the same gender to fill that group's logic ship full of more holes. XD
I miss reading Atma's posts, and hope she's alright wherever she is.
It's actually not surprising that a girl can poke so many holes in the logic, especially people like Atma who take the time to write coherent posts that use logic instead of pure emotion as the basis. EN claims to be trying to protect us, but they're trying to take away freedoms from people in our name. Both genders can see the flaws, but men aren't taken seriously on the issue because, well, they're assumed to be misogynists for even holding an opinion on the matter, which is sad.
not a good idea. It would make us, the MYOB bunch look as bad as them.
So you're saying having female members of this site do a bit of rational civilized nitpicking on our behalf wouldn't be a good idea? I dunno... Silence never protected anyone.
Although... because of all the hate mail sent to RN's membership over this whole thing, you might have a point.
Hm, I'm not sure I'm reading MYOB correct. "Mind your own business"?
There's a difference between going to a site and defacing it and correcting their information, so I'm not sure how that's 'just as bad'.
I will admit that after thinking over it a little longer, it might not be the best idea since they'd likely try to pass it off as an 'internet terror attack' and use it to get more donations. That, and there could be legal issues involved with it.
I do think pointing out the sources to their members SOMEHOW would at least get some wheels turning. I know a few people who thought that EN was a group for justice, reading the information on their site, but when they saw things that made them suspicious on another site they did research and stopped supporting them.
Why hope for someone to do it when you can go the DIY route?
http://partyvan.info
lobbyist groups all have extremist view regarding pornography and sexual content. Much like religion, a logical argument against these folks simply does not register, they only cherry pick what ever they feel they can prove to serve their own argument.
Equality now only picks on the japanese ero scene since they know they can't do jack shit to save real girls in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Thailand.
READ THIS REALLY OUTLOUD:
EQUALITY NOW IS AFRAID OF SUICIDE BOMBERS HEATSEEKING THEIR NON EXISTENT ASSES!!!
So now you know why.
Yeah! Typical ignorant retards with tunnel vision; the type that causes war. Would be better if there were less of these people in the world because they're just leeches. IF they just STFU we'd be all happy.
So just how did they stumble upon Sankaku Complex?
Be alert fellow anons, those females looming about under the guise of mothers of sisters may be one of these feminists. We are at war!
We are actually in the top 30 or so links on Google for "equality now"...
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/24/equality-now-demands-un-hentai-ban/
with
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/01/equality-nows-lies-exposed/
nested under it.
This is the 3500th most popular site on the internet. Artefact is Time Magazine's man of the year 2010.
Well, plenty of us sent them letters (I'm ashamed to say 'us' does not include myself) and I'm sure a number of them mentioned SanCom, so it's less stumbling and being lead straight here.
Wait wait wait. They actually read THIS site?
Apparently so. Funny thing too. I discussed Equality Now's actions with a couple of my female instructors and their general response? They don't like it one bit.
I agree. Maybe try talking to those who are more religiously oriented?
Really??....Hey you Cum-catching Ho-bags! (Yeah You, Equality Now) Go make me a sandwich!!! and learn to pole dance you silly bitches!!!!
Hillary Clinton called, she wants her snooty stank back!
bite my shiny metal ass equality now
Their aim is to curve the thought of the masses by removing eroge. Eroge and the like basically lets consumers know that this type of entertainment is socially acceptable, that you're not alone and that it's something enjoyable. By removing eroge they want to suggest that it doesn't exist because it's a bad thing, thus curving the not-so-bright from reenacting their favorite scenes.
While not a terrible idea to make some change, since law enforcement are supposedly watching over real women, their execution is something that could see much improvement. It's never a good thing to make the internet your enemy.
But if that theory were true, in countries where extreme porn is seen as socially acceptable, wouldn't they have higher rates of sexual crimes?
Research says it's actually the exact opposite. Prevalence of extreme porn like in Japan correlates to less sexual crime.
Original anon, replying.
As mentioned, I believe their aim is focused on popular media victimizing women rather than the women who are or have been victimized. They're latching onto anime, games and the like as its targeted toward a younger audience, and it's a newer form of media compared to conventional pornography.
I don't think that their efforts to stomp out a relatively new form of pornography will see any success, but I can't blame them for trying. There's always going to be someone out there that doesn't like something, even if you think that everyone loves it (e.g., some hate puppies and kittens).
It's only a matter of time before Equality Now switches focus to high-definition stereoscopic porn, so we'll just have to ride this one out.
HAHAHA!Are you born in the 40's and lives through the 50's?That era is what equality now wants back.An Era full of Cencorship while ignoring the segragation plus Racism,Sexism,Fundamentalism and other not so nice stuff.
C'mon America I thought you were past those awful decades.Grow Up!!Please!!!!
Wasn't a survey done in some country where porn is illegal, I think it was turkey, and almost every man surveyed admitted to having raped at least 1 woman, some admitted to more.
Trying to ban hentai, huh? Well, as this would lead to a very unfair situation, we have the full right to make our own little secret club and ban dildos once and for all! Hooooo!
Is it so unusual that they highlight "only the most deranged or trollish"? This is one of the standard techniques of persuasion. This website does the exact same thing by focusing only on Equality Now's assault on our much-loved porn industry. I'm sure that they do much more than rail away at Japan. (Actually, I'm too lazy to research properly, so if I'm wrong, lol, whoops.)
Regardless, unless consumers obtain more clout politically or economically, we can't beat them at the persuasion game. Enraged at such helplessness, half-witted fools post retarded crap, leading to a vicious cycle that constantly replenishes EN's persuasive ammo.
You have to remember that the average American is a politically unassuming idiot, and that this is the cashflow EN is thriving on. They can generate income just for making it look like something is getting done. While nothing is actually being accomplished toward worthwhile objectives, the average American woman with her less-than-average brain will think, "Oh, they're fighting off internet terrorists, maybe I should donate a couple of my husband's hard-earned bucks."
I don't know if you realize this, but you're screwing your own selves over, people. On the bright side, they will never be able to get onto doujin circles since they posses courage and ability beyond what we, behind our internet anonymity, could ever hope to achieve.
They do good things, yes, but you're not being fair when comparing what we're doing to what Equality Now is doing. EN specifically and intentionally took remarks out of context or picked joke or troll posts to show their members "what they're fighting against." We are not taking EN out of context or picking obscure quotes from their members or staff. We're directly, logically opposing them, and showing PROOF through STUDIES and STATS that indicate they are pursuing an avenue that goes against their stated goals to reduce rape and violence and rights violations against women.
They choose to respond by ignoring the arguments. Not only that, they picked the most extreme comments available which most of us probably disagree with, and said that those comments were representative of all of us in this community and on the "other side" of the debate.
And yes, most Americans are uneducated, ignorant, or even downright dumb on such topics, which doesn't help. We counter that by educating.
Heh, they are starting to realize no one care's about them so they're using whatever means necessary to make people take them seriously again.
They sure didn't choose the best way to do that...
Wow, nice catch.
woah nice, they quoted me!
You're northpole776? Well, you are a huge asshole that deserves to die for really thinking like that, but thank you for helping to provoke EN into making a huge mistake anyway.
Ignore the above if you were merely exercising your trolling skills back then.
Men are saying that being attracted to loli is normal for a man, but...
Am I a normal woman for being attracted to shota? The thought of a little boy pumping in and out of me gets my juices flowin.
i am not gay but i like girlish 2d shota.
Maybe not exactly normal, but awesome and in no way a bad or even dangerous person, even if you'd like to exercise that fantasy in real life.
But somehow I'm more concerned about you being a trap or simply an imposter (there are no girls on the internet that write quite like that, except maybe if they write male-oriented porn for a living or at least for fun)...
I wouldn't say it's normal, but I don't think men liking loli is all that normal either.
Shut up.
Wow. Desperate much?
God. This is so...typical.
*faceplams*
They need to be like tied to a chair and be forced to watch endless eight 15,689 times...
That is the only suitable punishment...
Endless Eight is more deserving of a ban than RapeLay.
+8
True.
Standard public relations tactic nothing to see here folks, it's your own fault for allowing the trolls to have a field day.
Kinda true...
LOL what a bunch of fags.
Really, this is to a point of being absolutely ridiculous. As a female myself, I find this sort of behavior not only downright terrible but idiotic. I've never commented here myself, but to ban creativity like this is absolutely devilish.
True, female rights are valuable, but most hentai/rape/incest/ecchi/etc games are stemmed as an escape. It's very much akin to the concept of a Death Note, and how kids are using it as an escape for their problems only for the media to blow it out of hand. There is no reason this should become another 'Death Note'. Period.
These type of games are creative, they tell a story that at times can just be porn, but other times be thought provoking and very meaningful. Many games are actually tasteful as the sexual part is only another part to the story itself. There's a lot of emotion in the act of sex, so in a fictional sense it's bringing more emotion into the story itself, which in turn pulls in readers/players of all kinds. The fact some group like this wants to limit this sort of development is just so sad.
What if a female made one of these games? Is it then okay? Despite the fact that some women actually play or enjoy these games is not enough, they have to limit freedom to write and explore different story techniques. Sure, the ecchi stuff is a plus and people have their fetishes, but half of the argument here is that it is censoring a story along with the H.
I would be lying if I said I didn't agree with some sort of censoring in Japan, that made it a little bit easier for children not to walk into a 7-11 type of place to find porn right on the front shelf, but that also goes in turn with parents watching where their children go. Japan still has one of the lowest sexual crime rates in the world, that's something to be proud of! Obviously there is an escape for this somewhere.
I truly hope Japan does not give in, and I'm disappointed in this group for being as deceitful as they have been.
Lady, you have my respect *Kneels down*. Well said girl!
Miss, I think I love you. I forgot all about the fact that many games have stories that are awesome in their own right. The same goes for H Manga, as I've read a few that left me enthralled to the point I forgot I was reading porn.
The thought of such things being outlawed makes me feel a bit empty. I like my smut, but I love a great story. They always leave me feeling inspired, and in many cases, evoke emotions that I can't get in H-less media. Almost nothing makes you hate a villain nearly as much as him or her breaking your favorite character, and it's much more charged if what he or she does is shown 'on screen'.
Inb4 lengthy post is glossed over by EN propaganda writers
They picked three comments out of what, hundreds, thousands of negative ones? If they didn't have space for more of those, they certainly don't have space for that one.
You, no matter what, deserve my respect for this one comment. Also, would you mind if I copied what you wrote and sent it into EN for them to think about? I know a lot of girls who dislike what EN is doing and think they should stay out of other countries affairs despite the fact that they themselves don't like porn. Thank you Miss. Anon for your comments and I hope you post on this site again.
Feel free to send it to them, I'm actually writing a more lengthy post on it on my own personal anime blog. I really think more girls should speak up about this, it is rather alarming.
Please be sure to mention Yes To Freedom (yestofreedom.org) in your post. It helps to get the word out that we're doing something about these EN people who choose the wrong path. If you want to link-love equality-now.blogspot.com then that would help too; if nothing else, we want to googlebomb Equality Now so we come up above the actual charity in search results ;)
Well said, Ms. Anon! ^^
It's always good to hear how it is on the other side of the Divide between Genders. This is not just about male gamers defending their freedom to enjoy a harmless pastime free of the meddling of certain groups who should've been concentrating their efforts on ACTUAL crimes against women worldwide rather than picking on a fringe element.
Women, like men, are Sexual Creatures. Many might not agree, but deep down they also have the same needs to be fulfilled lest they harm themselves or others(and quite possibly an innocent person... a minor or adult) trying to fill those needs.
That, plus your point about the games having more than just sex scenes is in desperate need of being pointed out. I've played eroge which made me think, or on rarer occasions made me shed manly tears for the pain of the protagonists.
Equality Now bit off more than they could chew, and are now beginning to reap the harvest they've sown. :)
Well said. I believe if Equality Now gets their way and wants to ban eroge in general, then not only are they banning a certain area of creative license/freedom, they're also stemming the flow of creativity further down the line. Several of these games with good plot development have eventually become anime or manga, some of which are considered masterpieces of artwork. I can think of a few off the top of my head...AIR/Kanon both had H-scenes in their first visual novel release, as well as Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night...
About the question "What if a female made one of these games?", I have a great answer for you that should help the cause. There's at least one female who illustrates for H-games...Noizi Ito (known as the chara designer for Shakugan no Shana and the Haruhi series) is also one of the illustrators for UnisonShift (they're the studio behind Alice Parade and Nanatsuiro Drops, another game with H-elements that was adapted into an anime).
There are many females illustrating (or even writing) for h-games, but Noizi Ito is probably the most famous of them.
However, EN doesn't care about that. Rest assured that they know about female involvement in the industry. They either want to "free" them from "having to do that", or simply regard them as traitors that decided to side with the enemy. Well, admittedly I don't know if EN thinks that way, but many radical feminists do. The whole "traitor" idea was invented - and is still propagated - by German radical feminist Alice Schwarzer. And she enjoys a HUGE following...
You are right,girl!You are so right!I agree with you 1000 % totally.
By the way the Japanese H game industry is fighting back intheir own way.Believe me when you got a Prime Minister that love ecchi stuff its natural to give EN the finger.
I believe that Sankaku already cover the story of Japanese game industry fighting back the law.
Atma?
Atma is not as intelligent and sensible as that.
I love the post, thanks ms anon.
I also attempt sometimes to bring non-hentai liking girls to see that there is more to some hentai manga than scenes of a sexual nature.
nana to karou for example is currently being picked up by a friend of a friend.
I never once had to make the argument to anyone I've talked to, that "if it didn't have a good story, how then did it make it to publication at all?"
All the people I've spoken to in not-a-great length about hentai genre manga recommendations, have received great response, the girls amongst them are in fact, in my opinion, rather more open minded for talking to me about the manga, rather than flaming me, flagging me, or insulting me... heck I think they are great people.
http://oddsquadscans.blogspot.com/
xinnie, noobzilla, sparkie, thantosx, are the people I was talking about, they show up in the chatango shout box on the oddsquadscans site daily. They all talked to me instead of shunned me for my manga reccs... two girls and two boys.
noobzilla tells me not to make a habit out of influencing people to read h-manga, unless those people are already reading h-manga without my help... and that is about as serious a complaint I've ever gotten. I've taken to pm links to people that ask for them as well, even though I wasn't told to.
I've got to say though, I've never actually tried getting other people to read h-manga with good stories, before oddsquadscans was created.
in other words I kept to myself, and never spoke about good reads, so if anything h-manga gave me the opportunity to communicate socially with others more so than if it didn't exist... this makes it a benefit to society, if ever I tried to speculate some benefit from hentai to society I'd use this example of opening up to others about my pervertedness, and affection of 2d over 3d.
I am an escapist... unemployed... poor education... medical disability allowing me 72 pounds a month for being disabled... (I'm in the UK, where it almost always rains..) and I'm told by my friends and family that I most likely have depression.
2d hentai, 2d stories, 2d wraps me up in a nice warm blanket away from society, all of its influences, and from commuting acts of hostility or depravity on others. I'm not the best example, but thanks to 2d, I'm not one of the worst cases of people in the world...
I used to play with a guy around my age, when I was younger... he... steals and hurts people.. blames it on addiction now... but I know he never liked 2d as much as me... he stole my last laptop.. his name was Jack Watson and I probably spelled that wrong....
The police let him go, so I'm even more depressed, than I would be normally.. all thanks to reality...
Well said. I like your style.
This is what you get for giving women rights. Women aren't fit for thinking or making decisions, that's how nature made them. Women are there to make children and support men, why is it so hard to accept?
Anyone else noticed that only the ugly or/and fat women are radical feminists? All the good looking, pretty girls are happy with their natural roles of mothers and supporters.
God, I hate feminists.
> God, I hate feminazis.
Fix'd.
Is this....A declaration of war? This is sankaku complex! rawl.
Oooh now I get why I never got a reply nor was quoted. I wrote serious an stuff, while these fags were waiting for something more "representative" of what they think of us.
These blind lyers
M.
So...it's like this right?
Sankaku : 1
Equality now: 0
With before the election and the new pm we have more than just one.
Their resistance only makes my penis harder.
+1
+9001
I hear anonymous internet trolls are good sources.
Apparently common sense isn't a good source for EN, not sure why they wouldn't pick internet trolls.
GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN!!!
Kitchen ??? No, I rather cook by my self. Those idiots EN just suit to be cannon powder or clear the toilet, I wonder if they can even know how to clear the toilet ???
I really, really wonder what they are trying to accomplish?
They are not trying to:
1) fix a problem because there is no factual evidence to support what they claim is the problem.
2) enforce equality because they are using cheap propaganda to gain leverage.
3) protect or help women because oppression and rape are still invariably prevalent everywhere.
4) be moralistic because there is nothing ethical about harassing and forcing people to join a misguided cause.
Honestly, is this some sort of prank or joke?
These are my hypothesis:
* banning 2d pron is just a front in their scam to collect funds (like it says in the last link of the post).
* They are actually backed by the 3d pron industry to destroy 2d pron industry so that well..... its business. Take note that they are doing NOTHING to real women abuse happening around the world (and no, don't they dare give me that "somebody else is fighting it" crap).
Oh, Equality Nooooow. I seeeee youuuu...
now proceed to insert some type of a vibrating contraption in your vagina, to get much needed release. maybe then you'll stop feeling jealous of the 2D lolis that get all the action, you know you'll never get.
My first reaction to seeing this, and knowing the unmoderated nature here, was to believe they had someone working for them post the messages so they could then "find" and quote them as things on another site.
If it weren't for the nature of many of the people on the site, I'd agree with you. We all like a good troll at times. Even I will go out of my way to provoke drama if I'm too bored, rarely actually believing the opinion I present. I think that at least in one case, it was just trolling and someone decided to use it to their advantage.
This isn't to say it's not possible, they'd say anything to promote their agenda after all, I think it's just more likely that someone was trying to get a rise out of others, not expecting they'd add fuel to the fire.
Rapelay actually has girls as young as 13 years old?
Sometimes I feel like children are more mature when it comes to bickering and arguing. At least they have the common decency to shut up and ignore each other when they can't take it anymore. Equality Now's immature use of some of the most asinine retorts the internet has ever seen is just a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. They're just two groups of neanderthal cretins who really try the limits of free speech. Freedom of speech is nice and all, but I hate the freedom of idiocy that comes along with it.
As I said: "Modern women who seek to destroy all men."
Surprised none of MY comments were there, I feel a bit insulted... Then again, though perhaps some think otherwise, I'm not a "Troll" like their cherry picked comments. I do make some strong statements, but on topic and I argue the point and welcome debate.
However, is there any way to get staff names and such? I wouldn't be surprised if we could trace back to academia and find a "Tuna Melt - Man hating Sorority" of women with outspoken hatred of men who consider even consensual heterosexual sex to be a form of "Rape" that the "Brainwashed by the Man" woman submits to.
OK, this is a war.
i cannot forgive em anymore.
They are just like MSNBC and CNN, only reporting the good points for democrats. Though Fox isn't any better in that department.
O RLY those bitches are here, in my Sankaku Complex? Time to hunt!
Good work, gumshoe! Let's hope this exposé makes the rounds at the places keeping tabs on this battle between the good guys and Equality Now.
These people are all Japanese citizens and should definitely get a say in Japan's policies regarding this issue.
Oh, so they are reading here?
FUCK YOU EQUALITY NOW
You're no different than sad moralists that thinks will save the world with your crap.
You're on the same level as Jack Thompson and other crooks.
You feed of the same bag of turd.
You're even worse than anonymous trolls.
Go find yourself a fucking job. ANY will do... cleaning public toilets for instance. At least this will you'll be actually contributing to society.
Or at least have the decency of admiting you are here because you like the content, and not some other lame ass excuse.
If you want equality you better start practicing it, dumbfucks. Because it's fucking easy to select posts on any random blog to use them as excuse to your censorship measures.
I'm willing to bet some of them were posted by your people too.
Dictatorships were made on the same principles. To have an "equal" society.
Also, it's so fucking easy to go after online and virtual content that's harming no one right?
Why don't you and your people go work in real cases?
There are plenty of countries out there, and Japan is the last on the list, were REAL children are kidnaped, abused and murdered every fucking day.
And hear this: banning hentai will do NOTHING to solve those cases, and will also do NOTHING to make them stop.
But you need to prove your stupid baseless theory that japanese H Games are the cause of it all, right? Even at the cost of other people's rights and freedom of speech.
Fucking get out of your little magical world and open your eyes, idiots. If you want equality you're going the opposite direction.
They probably have cataracts and can't read this eloquently-written post.
Too long, bro...
SEE? Japan is STILL a sovereign nation and we should treat it as much!
They wouldn't NEVER offend anyone!
Quoting anonymous comments on the internet is truly the lowest of the low. They must have zero integrity.
They are trolls themself so...
we need otaku terrorist.....
This is all sorts of sad. Demanding censorship even for the most well meaning goals puts you in the same team with all the other totalitarians - facists and communists had good intentions too, and look what became of them. There's no sensible dialogue, no attempts at compromise, only festering hate. I'm glad that most feminists aren't in this bandwagon.
And hell, while you can really find plenty of juvenile misogynism on the web, this blog included, attacking it as your primary target is only attacking a minor symptom of a much bigger issue, and even complete victory would cause nothing but a backlash of even worse bitterness, and certainly would do nothing to alleviate the misogynism of lonely nerds.
Fighting porn won't bring equality to women - fringe porn watched by a tiny minority with little or no power in politics or business world even less. This group has clearly lost its perspective of their true goal a long ago, and just lash at anything they find distasteful.
And incidentally folks, try to get a little class in your comments. Showing how "right" they are is hardly a solution.
You made me very happy. You're one of the first people I've heard admit that most feminists aren't as insane as EN in a long time.
Yeah, something I find mind boggling is they take posts from random Joes on the net. While Grandma Muriel may not be able to tell that a post written by someone on a blog is not indicative of the general consensus on so said site, surely, someone with more experience on the web will understand that people say shit they don't believe just because they CAN when they're on the internet. Very few people would say the comments they quoted face to face with anyone, unless they were trying to get beaten to a barely recognizable pulp.
Unfortunately, ma'am, many of the anons out here probably cut class, so have little of it to share. yeah, bad joke... I know.
Both sides are being short-sighted about this for the most part, sadly. There ARE good comments being made here, but it's hard to read over the ones stating "BACK TO THE KITCHEN, BITCHES!!".
Thanks for interjecting your own views here. God knows we could always use more.
See folks? There ARE sane people in the feminist ranks. ^^
The "back to the kitchen" thing is a meme. People don't say it because they mean it. They say it because it's a meme and because these women have made them mad. Equality Now strips the meme nature out upon reading it because they probably don't even know what a meme is.
It's really sad that it has to be pointed out all the time, and still doesn't seem to get through...
Meme or not, Equality Now won't know or care if it's a joke. They can't take a fucking joke.... they've proved it before, right?
*I* know it's a meme. It's a pretty juvenile one, IMHO, but whatever.
you know who these "women" remind me of? those stupid black activists running around trying to get movies to stop showing black people living in ghettos
i mean seriously.... society does not reflect the media, the media reflects society
i've personally known feminists, rape victims, and victimizers, the base problem is not in the porn, hentai, or anything else FICTIONAL
the problems are within the people and society
these f*cking lunatic activists need to get off their lazy letter writing bums and maybe do something useful
like instead of punishing artists and creative people working out their kins through games and hentai, maybe they could lobby for mandatory death sentences for rapists, that's something i'd vote for in a heartbeat
would save us tax money, filter the population, and deter crime, all in one fell swoop and without crippling our god (or devil) given right of free expression
if we weren't meant to be creative, in both kosher and explicit ways, we wouldn't have the mental capacity to do so
This is what you get for giving women the same rights as men. Schopenhauer was completely right with "On women" from his work "Arthur Schopenhauer: Essays and Aphorisms". If just more people were educated, women would have never been treated equally as men and humanity could focus on science and progress rather than trivial nonsense like this, which is only caused by women.
Amen, and do no limit to Schopemhauer; classic philosofers like Platon and Cisero also said some interesting things about how women are inferior to men and what is their place in the society.
Not only Schopenhauer, Plato and Cicero, but also Nietzsche, Tesla and practically 90% of all philosophers and scientists out there.
Here's a very informative page on the subject.
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_artcls/pornography/prngrphy_rape_jp.html
TL;DR
As more explicit porn is sold in Japan, rape rates go down.
Great reference
The problem is, EN says all those statistics are fake.
Well, I guess that means they're right. I mean EN said they were fake so it HAS to be true.
Hello Hitoshura.
how sad, they don't have any real evidence, so they use trolls' comments.
We should take this to 4chan, i am sure something will be done about it.
Not unless you can link EN to cat abuse.
We could charge them for attempted nekomimi girl genocide, does that count?
Hmm, maybe.
But a nekomimi is still more human than cat, and 4chan doesn't give a fuck about humans.
Alas, this is true. You might be able to mobilize a small army, but they'd get bored rather quick, and I'm not sure that 4chan methods are quite right for this situation. It's fuel to the fire.
It's been done in the past and no one really cared enough to do anything more than discuss it.
The chan reaction to Scientology was a fluke
i send a mail to DPJ, Democratic Party of Japan,
about this issue.
i wish they hear me...
Since women got rights the only thing that came out of it is bullshit like this.
Fuck, I wish I was born when women were actual women, not stupid, childish men with breasts and a vagina.
WOW
I just realized that women really are just degenerated men with vaginas and breasts.
That's why probably I and many others turn to hentai, that's the only place I can find feminine, motherly, beautiful women again, like nature wanted it to be.
Heh. Nature "wants" survivalists, not sheltered weaklings. Just even look a few hundred years back: The average women were tough as nails because they were the ones who had to take care of the home while the husband was in the fields working. While those types of women could be beautiful, especially the milk-maids due to their work-granted immunization to a horrible disease, they didn't have time to whimp around. Survival demanded hard work and luck.
You are talking about the dark age and I was referring more to Ancient Greece and better circumstances.
You know, those kind of women you described sounded very appealing. Tough as nails with a feminine and motherly side.
If they would be men with breasts and vaginas they sure wouldn't want to bann hentai. Where is your logic?
Ok, let me fix that: Gay men with breasts and vaginas.
See the logic now?
Ugly women like that should be removed from society. I propose we bring back slavery where the uglies are made into labour (and away from sight), and the nice looking ones become our whores. That's how the world is meant to be. Men over women.
..I hope they feature my comment on their site.
You might actually be successful here... but then again, there's strong competition.
fucking 3D pigs
SAVE JAPAN, BAN HENTAI
SAVE HENTAI, BAN EN
SAVE EN, BAN FREEDOM
Oh, wait....
SAVE EN, BAN MANKIND
...I think I gonna save EN. Well EN, ya got new supporter, let's us arm toward the end of man, start with ban anything that ban-able.
So what exactly are we supposed to do? We email they delete them, we show proof and facts about these topics and they deny, lie or both.
So what are we supposed to do? You can't reason with these people, it's like trying to reason with a spoiled child, perhaps someone should start some kind of site like Anti-Equality Now or True Equality Now and expose scum like them, sort of like Wikileaks or something.
But am I not seeing some options? They have made it very clear they will not listen at all, they are hell-bent on pushing their agenda, or are these type of articles suppose to damage their reputation, because they don't seem to be very phased by them.
I'm writing an e-mail right now. Something professional sounding that we can all copypasta to them.
Didn't someone already try that? They made some sort of campaign and made a professional letter for them and a bunch of people all sent them out.
It didn't seem to help at all, they just denied all the facts.
Is that so? Do you have a copy of this letter?
No I don't, sorry :(
i think most people here have already attempted it. They're not going to listen to anybody except those who completely support their views.
Sure it might offend them, but nobody is asking them to even get near this content, yet they're trying to take it down even though it doesn't even affect them one bit.
IF they really wanted to protect women, and if thats their honest agenda then yes i'd support them. But it sounds nothing like that, it sounds like profiteering, exploiting logical fallacies of the absent minded is what they do.
Unfortunately most of the world is dominated by people who are conservative, people who don't accept anything foreign. Ultimately if this is left to its own devices equality will be the last thing that we see.
People really need to step up, in politics and actually speak out. As various articles on sankaku have pointed out, theres ALWAYS a gender bias with the law, instead of being even for both genders, it has went from being sexist for women to sexist for men; i.e. 15 years for possession of illicit material by a man, but only 1 year for a woman who raped somebody.
I'd blame religion for this. So many of the moral values are only morally correct for those who employ it. What I am referring to is the christian, capitalist, conservative nature of most politicians who have the most power. Yes I understand that some of you may be christian here but thats not what I'm getting at.
I'd bet that those EN women are all filthy rich and definately religious.
I was actually thinking this as well, it has a religious stink all over it, all we need is proof and that should lose them a few points, religious groups have been getting in a lot of fire lately.
But I don't plan on lying threw my teeth like they choose to, it shouldn't be to difficult to prove it, if it's true that is.
Am I the only one who realizes that they have no ground whatsoever. This will fail so just sit back and watch our enemy squirm...they already have a few dozen bullet holes.
It won't fail if they're allowed to continue unhampered like this. Foreign activism of this sort is what Japan's resident moralists and feminazis have been waiting for FOR AGES.
EN are trolls. What is it that trolls hate most? Being ignored.
So, ignore them. They do not exist. They are irrelevant and behind the times. They are misguided and pitiable attention seeking drama queens.
Do not mail them, do not write about them, do not plead with them, do not threaten them. Do not even acknowledge their existence. Scrub them from our collective memory.
Give them nothing to feed on and watch them grind their teeth in frustration as they are ignored into obscurity. Which is as it should be.
At this point it's the only thing we haven't tried, but what if they take the silence as us submitting to them?
While we can ignore them, the japanese's politicians can't. If they're brainwashed by them, it's game over for us!
don't ignore them damnit.They will just take over it easier if you do nothing against it
Good god, lads, this comment is a TRAP!!
problem is the UN isnt ignoring them. Most of the people at the UN wouldnt have a clue as to whats going on in the world, and seriously without research any nut would believe what EN says. Its exploiting gender sympathy and really an abuse of their position.
Funny how they only lie and lie and lie.
u know who has been ignored too? Hitler.
wanna end up in Ausschwitz?
The problem is that Hitler was not ignored. He was listened to and supported. He was _voted_ leader of the country.
Try reading some history before pulling out half-assed analogies.
I think his delivery could've been better, but the analogy still fits if you can analyze it.
He was referring to what Hitler and the Nazi Party were doing to the Jews and the other 'undesirables' before and during WW2. People either outright ignored the problem (it didn't concern them, so why bother?), or they were frightened by the possibility of being singled out for protesting. See what I mean?
Now who was being half-assed? Him for not being clear enough, or you for your assuming? ;)
Hitler wasn't elected by the German people. If you're going to be a smartass, at least be an educated one.
This is ze end! The end of Equality Now! Yes To Freedom banzai! Banzai!
I think I've figured out one of Equality Now's hidden goals. It's to make more men into criminals. Think about it. Let's say, Mr. X likes rape hentai, and needs it to get off on. Ban hentai all together and what option is he left with? Either he goes with the flow and doesn't view it anymore and watch disgusting mainstream rape porn, or chooses one of the other two that make him a criminal. It's entirely possible that he will get pent up urges as a result from a Hentai ban, and acts this out in reality and actually rapes someone. Or, he chooses to ignore the ban all together, and continues to watch Hentai, which still makes him a criminal for disregarding a stupid law. When I look at it this way, it seems like Equality Now's true objectives is to screw over guys in general.
Ha, figures; I thought that Equality Now had been trolling these comments for a while now, and now we have proof.
But anyway, there is one thing that Politicians and Activists groups like Equality Now either fail to realize or refuse to acknowledge, and that is that Porn and Violent Video Games are an outlet not a catalyst. If you look at the stats places with ready access to porn (regular and Fetish, this includes hentai and lolicon) have lower sex crime rates than places without access to such media.
The same holds true for violent Games like GTA and what not. If I have a bad day at work I can go jack some cars, shoot up a bunch of people on a side walk, and beat a hooker to get my money back in a virtual environment, and not have to beat up someone in real life. In fact the Violent Crime rate has dropped since the mid nineties since these kinda games became available.
Now even given the facts you will always have those who can't separate fantasy and reality, as well as those who will try to twist things to suit their needs. Well I guess I'm done standing on my soap box now it's 6:30 in the morning and I'm tired as hell, so I'm goin to bed.
Reminds me of Scientology methods. Might they be working hand in hand?
+1 Might not be working with them but definately operating under the same concepts.
Its hypocritical for us to do anything though.
go back to your kitchen woman
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They lose any sense of credibility once you realize they are :
A) Interfering with another country that is totally different from the one they live in. My suggestion, stop trying to ram your morals down the throat of a place that doesn't even fall under the laws of the US!
B) Bitching and moaning about fictional characters, but then they do not complain about REAL 13 year olds that are being forced to marry 50 and 60 year olds in the Middle east every day.
Don't forget they are quoting trolls as proof of misogyny as the general consensus of 'gamers'.
Agreed. They dont look at anything, in japan I dont think that people would really give a flying fuck about the amount of pornography, lolicon, etc. Everybody's happy. Except not at that foreigner thats only pissed everyone off by making a few people lose their livelyhoods.
Yes equality to those fictional characters... very logical o_o. Now what happened to those kids who just got raped in Africa?
Now if they did something about that I'd be rooting for them. But they arent. They are just scum.
of course they wont do anything.
who (besides marines) wants to start a quarrel with fucking islamic militias?
fucking NO ONE!
they've really gone downhill if they are "quoting" from this "game site", half the comments posted here are from trolls... or down a cliff?
oh lol, do I see another FOX NEWS in the making?
Like Ben Franklin said: "Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see.
Holy shi~!! Sancon's famous!!
By now, I'd say *INfamous*. :3
Not surprising from a group that uses lies as a way to defend itself from the truth and to manipulate those less knowledgeable in such areas. They just can't handle it themselves so they want to keep everyone else in the dark. Just like any extremist group or corrupt politician or pro-censorship organization. The fact that they pick this site, and the troll comments as some representation of all peop-*ahem* men who like Hentai clearly shows that they are desperate for some retribution against all those they disagree with.
What's funny and ironic is for an organization that blatantly calls the Japanese pedophiles and rapists for allowing such materials and those who enjoy it misogynists, without ANY proof that such materials would lead to a person becoming such, is now crying about people telling them to go work in a kitchen and die. Is it me or do I see hypocrisy there? Equality Now poked the sleeping tiger with a stick, gets mauled and then blames the tiger. The human psyche sure is pretty amusing with people like these.
On another article regarding Equality Now, I mentioned how by banning such material would affect Japan's economy. Many countries have been hit with recession which also led to high unemployment rates. By eliminating an industry, you will be helping the unemployment rate for men AND women. Do you honestly believe that only men enjoy this material? Do you honestly believe that only men work in this industry? Do you honestly believe women are being forced to work in this industry? Why is it that you only pick out the imaginary female characters but not the imaginary male characters? Are men that much detested by you that you even ignore the imaginary ones who are abused, raped, and humiliated by imaginary females?
Also to add, where on earth are your priorities? There are millions of real women and girls who are abused, suffering and lack any equal rights, or for that matter any human rights around the globe. In the Middle East there are many girls as young as 10 being made brides and are forced into sexual activities. What about the child brothels in Thailand? How about trafficking of women and girls in Ireland? What about South Africa? Where women and young girls are raped so much so on a daily basis. You're telling me that those aren't as serious or important as fictional 2D images portraying women or men being raped. You're also telling me that fictional characters are harmed more (lol) than that of actual women? If you think as much as so, I suggest you undergo psychiatric treatments to differentiate fantasy and reality.
If you believe that such material would reinforce the idea that it is ok to rape. I hope you jest, but frankly looking at your ongoing crusade you are not. If that was true then the very same assumption would fit with murder. I suppose movies like 'Saw' or even the show 'Dexter' is implicating it is ok to torture and kill people. What about games like GTA? If society was so easily influenced by media to such a degree you probably wouldn't be alive today. Liking something does not mean you will commit the act in response. Such materials weren’t around a thousand years ago, yet such crimes were around. Explain that and the connection it has with materials today. Censorship and taking peoples freedoms are not going to lower crime nor will it stop it. The biggest reason why you sometime see some kind of decline in crime statistic after is because it has gone into the black market which makes it much harder to find or detect. People will always find a way around things. Those who don't care for the law to begin with will carry out crimes regardless. Have you ever thought that giving harsh sentences to people involved with Hentai will only mean that possibly some of those who are using it to vent will just target real women and girls? If they are going to receive the same punishment you get from actual rape and child abuse for enjoying Hentai, then they might as well do the real thing. Surely you do understand cause and effect right?
Face it Equality Now. You are not an organization for equal rights, you are not an organization of justice, you are not an organization that put forth any substantial evidence, and you are most definitely not an organization that protects and support those most needed. You are however a hypocrite, ignorant idealists, arrogant busybody, embodiment of red herrings and manipulative snake which has been wholly shown in strides as you continuously try and stigmatize and criminalize all those in favor of Hentai. It is nothing but childish prattle. I fear for any country being dictated by such people who seek out to punish and criminalize innocent people because they are associated with something you disagree with.
By Infernal....(ye I'm still too lazy to become a member here lol)