Islamic Outrage Over Fake Hymens
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Sep 29, 2009 15:23 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Crime, Egypt, Islam, Made in China, Marriage, Relationships, Virginity
A leading Islamic scholar is calling for the death penalty for traffickers of a $15 device which allows non-virgin women to simulate having their hymen broken, which he decries as encouraging sinful fornication.
The device, made in China and increasingly widely available in the Arab world, allows women who might otherwise not have intact hymens to simulate the bloody penetration demanded of them by Islamic society on their wedding nights.
Using fake blood to imitate genuine deflowering, it provides a cheap alternative to costly hymen reconstruction surgery, whilst still allowing women to trick their husbands into thinking they are virgins.
A professor at a leading Islamic university in Egypt decries the device as encouraging fornication out of wedlock, and argues that those responsible for its importation are responsible for corrupting the virtues of Islamic society and should thus face execution.
Egyptian politicians are calling for the device to be banned forthwith.
Via the BBC.
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Wow never thought i would agree with any arab or muslim
until i read this
makes you wonder why 9-13 year old girls would have to use a device like this to feign that they are still virgins
Because they are not born with hymens to begin with!
After vagi-plasty, I'm not surprised over this new 'product'...XD
Anyways...What's this fu*ed up discussion about Christians and Moslims? Aren't they the same shovinistic assh**les? o_O( I mean the fanatic types...Don't take it as offense!! )
Also...I never understood this whole "marry a virgin" thing...I'm not saying it's bad to wait until marriage but religions should leave ppl alone who want to be sexually active before they get married...
Partly I understand why they think this way they could protect the moral innocence of their children ( since we live in the world of sex and money )...
On the other hand my mom never raised me religiously, we never talked about sex and she never forbid me alcohol/smoking...
Yet, I'm not doing drugs, don't smoke and drink alcohol...Was a good student and lost my virginity after becoming 18, because I met the right guy...
Maybe I'm an exception but ppl like me proove that not neccessarly religions will raise the moral of the world...
ISLAM VS CHINA! WHO WINS??
you know china do have a considerably good amount of muslims so china would obviously get fucked in and out. DUH
I lol'ed ^^
but to be real, this kind of stuff is totally madness. It seams to me that south moslems still are living in the last century.
btw I'm moslem to but I really cant understand this idiotic south nations and their fucking laws.
they do fuck camels..goats..and sheeps there..so whats the big deal....women are most abused in their region..stoneage mentality
There is NO SUCH THING AS INTACT, FULLY CLOSED HYMEN in real world. Ask women you know. If they are honest, they will tell you that. Every honest doctor knows that. A young, virgin girl has usually very little tissue called hymen. Blooding can occur during penetration if the girl is dry or very tense, but that blooding isn`t a result of some hymen being broken. How long will this false legend keep continuing?
Maybe forever, thanks to crazy religions and fake doctors earning money from this superstition.
Honestly, I can't wait till; 1.Middle East runs out of oil. 2.Alternative energy source. Then those crazy bastards can kill each other to extinction.
now why aren't Feminazis outraged with such claims?
i do not doubt muslims would indeed kill for such a thing, so why aren't they bothered, or do they only bother when 2d women aren't treated with respect?
People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids?...It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out.[
-Rodney King-
why even bother having their hymens reconstructed...if they're not virgin anymore then so be it...
I believe this is culture issue...not a religious one...
how the hell would a divorced women be a virgin...if someone married to one
what kind of moslem does this kinds of things?
WTF....
Women reconstruct their hymen so that they can lie about be virgins. Kinda like women that are born-again virgins and girls that never have vaginal sex but will do anal and oral and call themselves technical virgins. They're not virgins, they're just lying sluts.
Rin is so famous, everyone can even easily identify her bare crotch..
It's the thigh highs. Nobody wears overknee socks quite as deliciously as her.
Actually all this stuff about continueing Greek tradition: It wasn't just Greek tradition, and it wasn't just the Muslims continuing it. The Byzantines were primarily responsible for it along with Christianity.
And of note they destroyed Byzantium, and Middle Easter and Northern Africa and tried to do all of the Mediterranean and France as well so I'd say we're more than even.
(600 million Hindus have been killed by the Western Invaders over the last 1000 years, one government even killed a minimum of 100k each year for about 150 years. Hindu Kush in Hindi means 'Hindu Slaughter' if anyone is curious about why that piece of geography doesn't have Hindus.)
muslim here.... and I dont give a crap what that egyptian says. last thing they need to worry, is the vagoo of society, first solve the alcohol problem, backwards tradition of killing innocent girls and kick hosni mubarak out of power... then talk about some girl's vagina on her wedding night...
sheesh...
Enough of the argument Islam this, Islam that.
Keep it simple.
The device is like a fake blood sachet to simulate the defloration bleeding moment.
Scholars ban and go berserk over it because it encourages fornication.
Tell me, who are the one who deflowered these girls at first place? The Egyptian men!!!
So after deflowering so many of em, you expect to find more virgin in Egypt?
You want virgin? Douse yourself in gasoline, yell Allahuakbar aloud and run into White House and kill some Jews...
You will be rewarded with 700 virgins in Heaven!
9001 virgin lolis in heaven!
What if the virgins in heaven use the same device? lol.
That would have to be sanctioned by Allah. And if Allah pulls off THAT..... that would be the biggest fucking trolling ever.
I lol'd.
Oh lol, I should buy this device.
Maybe it'll restore my anal virginity once again
So you want to keep your shit forever then?
My butt is so full of poop.
brbpoop.
Damnit, lol'd again.
so let me guess at possible problems from this.
Women:Hi im a virgin
Man:Ok i guess she is safe to fuck from getting any STD.
Women and man intercourse in sex
Man goes to doctor and finds out he got AIDS.
Man:How did i get aids if you were a virgin?
Women:I used this machine to fake my virginty.
Man:Damn why didn't you tell me,i could at least test you on STD,you have ruined my life.
So i can see why they consider it unholy.
I bet a lot of these guys consider AIDS to be a massive Jewish conspiracy, anyway.
Sort of like the Nymphomania caused by their bubblegum.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iflSn6wJWSpD_E55DV8LHxvldfiA
wow i want some of that gum for my girlfriend, maybe it will fix her late LATE night sex drive activation to a more reasonable time frame XD
"Hey little girl, you want some gum? Just get in my van."
lmao
Indeed. Plus It would change the face of pickup lines forever.
"Ya want some gum?"
Actually it is also possible to be born with aids when the pregnant woman had it.
You fail!! it is not possible to be born with aids, you can be born with HIV which can later on over a long period of time develop into AIDS. +1 fail to Ayu Jochuu
Read the link Fonzer posted and say that again.
Epic fail.
LoL aids is the result of HIV hiv comes first, aids is developed later. but in rare cases aids does not deleop. You = fail again. do some research. its common sense which most people already know
meh should have mentioned hiv there.Allow a mistake.
Aids are more the sysmptoms of the disease.
Hiv is always where it all start.
But all this hiv/aids kinda make you think it's the same,though it isn't.
"do some research. its common sense". Returnedfail.
yes i know this.But it doesn't always happen that theyget born with aids.
But i don't know how long do children with aids live?
I have to google it a little
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/22/hiv.children.generation/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/11/health.hiv.stemcell/index.html
I say we pull a Char and expand Mir into a base, colonize space and the moon, tell every fanatic sect of every religion that they can have their own continent...then drop mir onto the ****ing earth
I say we pull a Char and expand Mir into a base, colonize space and the moon, tell every fanatic sect of every religion that they can have their own continent...then nuke the ****ing earth
KIlling women is one the most forbidden things in islam dont mix those arab shitheads with us muslims most of them are muslim yes but thier arab shit has nothing to with islam culture is not islam islam is about worshiping god who made us the creator of earth jermaine jackson muslim mike tyson is muslim and muhammed ali they dont do any wierd shit!
The muslims talk about virtues and such stuff while they commit pedophilia every minute. Talk about hypocrisy. I hope that stuff gets popular there so I can laugh as I see them RAGE. :D
It really might get quiet popular since how mentioned before they have this stone-aged these that virgins bleed on their wedding night - aka loose virginity...
( Which I can assure every male not being the case...)
It's not the fault of the entire Moslim folk since a big amount of them are already...lets say 'westernized'...It's rather that Islamic leaders tend to support the exaggrations of their religion...
Surely the Coran has quiet a few not really female-friendly lines but it's not as extreme as some put them into action...
What's an even bigger problem is that religions tend to stick to very 'old-school' rules...
No sex before marriage --> lack of sexual protection
No homo-sex --> men can't become pregnant --> convenient --> get's popular --> lack of babies
No masturbation --> see above...
Otaku should build and own church...In Hungary you only need 100 members and a dogmatic structur XD
To sum what has been mentioned above: Religion is the Cancer that is killing EVERYTHING in RL.
re-deflorable Rin : I love it
These zomg top Islamic scholarly morons and countries need to stop speaking for all of Islam in their backwards nonsense. I've read the Quran and interpreted it for myself and I've yet to see such shit mentioned. If they're "islamic" nations or scholars then maybe they're using modified versions of the book.
Either way, I'm ashamed of all these retards. >:|
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The thing we should all be speculating on is why are the Chinese helping muslim women fake their virginity?
Screw Islam and their chauvinistic values. What about the men? Just because you can't prove it on their wedding night doesn't mean that they probably have done it.
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ya' konw, it's always like that...
i mean islam is very strict...
in my country i'm living...malaysia, dildo's are consider illigal to islam(they not allowed to buy)...
they also not allowed to use condom while having sex...
they don't even allow shaking hands...
o don't get me wrong...i'm a chinese(not islam!)...
PS: if anyone of my fellow country-mens are reading this, plz dun sue me... i mean no harm...
"the virtues of Islamic society" Wat.
Is that picture accusing Rin of faking her virginity? RIN IS NOT A WHORE, SAKURA IS!
Finally, China has done something the right way
Blood is so disgusting.
lol - angry "freedom" fighters bitching and moaning about Islam as usual.
1. other countries, other cultures - dont like it, dont live there.
2. Islamis invasion blabla - dont like it, dont vote the ppl responsible - it is not like fundamentalists are illegaly crossing the border like mexicans.
3. so far the evil religion of murder has not invaded any other country (middle age doesnt count since every fucking country/Religion was doing the same thing!!)
4. 9/11 didnt happen cuz a bunch of muslims saw Baywatch on cable tv and didnt like it. the US mingled with islamic countries decades ago and stationed there troops everywhere (Iran, Afghanistan etc etc) - IMAGINE RUSSIA DEPLOYING SOLDIERS TO CUBA FOR SAFETY REASONS!!!
5. the whole fucking western world trying to force otehr countries and cultures into becoming "westernized" (China, Africa, Japan, Iraq etc etc).
6. many radicals dont get radical because they are evil people who get trained at Dr.Dooms secret base inside an active volcano! they become indoctrinated cuz of poor standards of living, missing education, no real focus in life! Bombs and US marines dont create a higher level of social wealth and education. Rather the opposite!
7. Islam was a GREAT concept and religion that helped people till lets say the 19th century. after that unfortunately a lot of ppl with POWER realized that it is easy to keep ppl under control abusing it!
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Insulting and making fun of muslims and Islam is not gonna make anything better, quite the opposite.
oh and dont start with "Gotta nukem all hurr durr" since that wont happen - a bunch of internet cowboys does not have the means or capabilities to do that - heck even W.Bush didnt have them - and he tried a lot!
Can a scholar or two be considered as Islam?
I think A Religion, cannot be judged nor concluded by one or couple peoples......
So that's why i think that the tittle is little bit provocative...or at least shallow....
I'm not gonna discuss about this Fake Hymens that made in china (and God may enlighten them), but as a scholar who's main interest is religion, i kinda tired of this shallow nonsense about religion (not only islam)
I'm a christian, might not be a good one, but i don't want to hear 'christian rampage over something' just because a church or two was making fuzz about it
PS: Islam is not middle east, even though it's originally from there, so again, it's too shallow to call 'Islamic Outrage'...because those people are from egypt, and egypt, is not even yet middle-east
So cut the crap!
Best Regards
Wonder how many of you posters even know who you your real daddy is?
Islam is the way of life
Feel sorry for those who does not receive the guidance.
Write whatever you want, honorable mr i-know-everything-about-islam.
Well you can damn me and curse me as much as you want in the afterlife as long as you leave me alone in my present life.
I can understand religious advice. Cheating on a spouse is bad for the relationship, community and society.
Stealing is bad for interpersonal relationships community trust,and peace.
Outright coldblooded murder has no place in any society
But holy freaking hell, stoning someone for their sex life is as wrong as emptying 78 bullets into a marijuanna user, or tasering a 99 year old grandmother in front of her grandchildren...was giulliani the reincarnation of a taliban commander?
Muslim religion has been specially designed for the most efficient breeding population.
Because the greatest genocide in human history was during the Crusades. Tens of millions of people were killed 1,000 years ago in Arabia, the Christian knights. It was the whole (Christian) Europe against a single people: These Arabs. Imagine a country where absolutely all men, are dead. Only boys and old are in life.
Only that Arab scientists, who were geniuses to that era, they discovered that a man can leave pregnant in an efficient way, only four women.
If we think that more than 1,000 years in future, they are more than one billion, it seems they're right. ;)
Quite right..... it's time to realize that most of these people who are calling for this are insane idiots who should be locked up in the nearest insane asylum and NEVER let out..... though, that really applies to anyone who believes in ANY religion, seeing as how all of them are no more than lies and fabrications justified by a 'god' who never existed except in the deluded and evil mind of the person who came up with the idea of there being a 'god'.
From what I've seen recently, the Islamic countries are utter shit for women. They need to defect over to the U.S. where we will love them tenderly.
Yup, Islam sucks ass.
This Pic is a nice one from F/H/A or?
Islam is the lite.
Please whatever you do people of Islam do not challange China.
You obviously live in china if you haven't heard of Chinese and Uighurs(chinese muslims) riots in Xinhua. And its not as if it happened years ago, its as recent as last month. Don't worry it wasn't anything new, really. Its one of those china oppresses minority, again, riots insued.
Eurabia should have followed China's way of dealing with these sandpeople.
Haha image is of Tohsaka Rin. She wanted someone to J-J-JAM it in.
"Saber, you're bleeding! A-A-Ambulance!!!"
Rin ^_^
is Win. ^_^
Some commenters have a good point here, this article might be fake. I've done some searching, but there's only one picture, though the product does seem to be real. My skepticism is that for a virgin "Test" you just spread the lips. If modesty forbids you touching your bride, you have your Ma or Pa spread 'em before they even make the arrangement fully.
Fake articles spread like wildfire if they are shocking, esp. about religious and shocking issues.
Back in 2001, a few months before 9/11 I did this job where I drove a lot and one of my fellow workers was this big but lovable "Holy Roller" ala Jack Chick stuff...
One afternoon we heard on the radio, just after one of his questionable workplace preaches, the story about the woman who died leaping from her SUV because she said she saw Jesus lifting naked women up to heaven. It turned out he was a college student who dressed like Jesus to get laid and despite his luck those were a bunch of helium filled sex toys (this was from a distance) he was driving to a frat party for some questionable fun. He accidentally pushed the button on his convertible and the wind yanked it open, so he was running around trying to catch the dolls. The lady who was super religious saw that and leaped, but she went "Splat" considering she was going at 65+. Her vehicle was also "Left behind" and it caused a pileup.
Well, that article was faked, but it spread through a lot of respectable sources who then were parroted by other more respectable news. It was never designed to be a fake, but a parody, but one single DJ read it on the radio for laughs, again no intent at deception, and then his account was repeated and the article quickly cut and pasted.
Well, let me tell you, we were literally rolling on the floor laughing. Not really at that guy, you see for Fundy Nutbags, he at least "Walked the Walk" and he was nice and for real nice to us, even though we didn't really share his views. So we were laughing till our sides split, but trying to stop. And he was sad and not embarrassed but silently praying for the woman's soul, and those her accident injured...
I've toyed with the idea of several "Fake" articles myself for jest, but in RL I'm a dabbling journalist and while journalists amateur and professional are the worst media hoaxers, I do care about the "Sanctity of the News" though that itself is in question...
One idea, which I'll tell since I won't do it involves editing Wikipedia. The goal would be to have some kid do a cliche report, like "Revolutionary War" and then they get the info and talk about (with images printed out) how George Washington had managed to defeat the British army with a force of 300 men by a brilliant "Make the enemy come to you" maneuver at the hot gates of Valley forge. Their heroism was legendary, and a scant dozen remained but all the British were massacred. Sadly, his homecoming so deserved would be delayed. As they crossed the Patomic, a hideous wind blew them out into the patomic ocean, beginning a long Odyssey to return home. Included in his harroing trip was when he spent time on what turned out to be the "Isle of Cyclops" - Pic of "Saturn Devouring his Children" but mixed with a cyclops eye and Abe Lincoln hat and beard and images of soldiers from that era shooting at it pshopped in...
But I don't know if I'd ever get a laugh from doing it, and it'd be too hard on the kid(s) who did it. Just it'd be up for a while, then taken down. Well, actually maybe not now. Maybe, given current "School Book" high prices, zero quality, some editor would pastiche it into a legion of RL textbooks...? Especially if they outsourced to China, India, etc...
Hey you don't like when you say your a virgin D<
Why is this even newsworthy? There are university professors calling in America calling for the abolition of marriage, ones demanding that blacks be paid reparations for slavery, ones calling for America to switch to communism yet everyone ignores these teachers cuz they sound like crackpots. Yet one prof in Egypt says something and you make it sound like all of Islam concurs.....BS. Every society, race and religion has teachers within it calling for radical changes...we ignore these people because TEACHERS DON'T MAKE LAWS, STUPID. I imagine there are teachers in the Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox and even Buddhist religions all calling for equally stupid changes to society as well.
The only thing is that in Islamic countries those 'professors' when issuing a 'fatwa' are doing just that. Making a rule or 'law' that everyone who considers themselves a 'true believer' must follow regardless of what the actual law states.
It's religious law first, civil law second in these countries. And most of these so-called 'professors' are greedy bastards who will issue a 'fatwa' to anyone who makes a nice enough donation to the cause.
Chances are some well-off newlywed groom got burned by the fake hymen and asked for this rule to be proclaimed so the guy could be justified to kill his falsely deflowered bride so that he could transfer his shame back on to her family.
Oh yeah, reparations certainly are the words of a crackpot...
the only reparations for slavery (which occured over 200 years ago) should be the offer to extradite any African American who believes that they are not just 'American' to the country of their origin. Lets see how well they do in their 'homeland'. How is it they say.... 'Word to the mother'.
America is a melting pot and I am sick of so-called 'minorities' who are really the majority pushing their native culture into mainstream culture. If they wish to be 'American' then they must assimilate to OUR culture, not the other way around. I am so tired of 'press 1 for english, para espagnol press numero dos' sheesh!
what american culture, there is no such thing. the only real american culture belonged to the native americans. what you call american culture is just the cultures of hundreds of others that just happened to end up in the same place.
and if it really bothers you so much you can always go back to where your culture is from, which is not from america unless your native american
yes they are
Honestly its the people that continue picking at the scab of slavery that never allow it to close, no one cares anymore. Marriage is for the religious. If you want to be gay then be gay, no one is making being gay illegal (if they are its ridiculous. Unless people are on the street interrupting my morning news screaming 'be gay with me' that would be disturbing and pushing it, but you have to be Man-Woman couple for marriage, something that was meant to join people of a similar religious belief blah blah blah. It's a lot of really stupid bullshit surrounding marriage, gay or otherwise. If you want to be with someone, trying to join the club that says under their rules that you can't is fucking stupid. It's also annoying hearing the religious people be like "that's against god" Yeah um, maybe not everyone believes in an invisible monitoring god like you do. Drop it already, its annoying, and makes god, who is supposed to have everyone as his child now, look ungodly. I have to agree with the last part you said though, there are too many religious fanatics trying to change society.
Let's take a large school as an example, has a whole bunch of clubs and shit. Essentially, the shop class wants everyone to have a tool belt and refuses those that like phllips-heads and flat-heads from joining, while the people that do try to change the rules and get pissed when they aren't accepted into a place not made for them, art class demands everyone has paint for their class, P.E. FORCES everyone to attend, and demands you wear proper clothing, music class wants everyone in the school to have an instrument. Now in a normal school, this shit is fcking divided, with the school boards and etc keeping budgets allotted and so on and so forth. But with the way it is now, I can't enjoy my class anymore because there is TOO MUCH BICKERING.
Last I checked the captain of a basketball team never went around demanding all the people wear a jersey or some shit. All the different clubs should be told to stfu, go back to their class rooms, and to write down what they are entitled to, not from god and not what they think they deserve, but for what is necessary for their fucking class. I don't think you need a lot of elaborate shit for some classes, same goes for HUMONGOUS churches and the like, it's unnecessary because god only originally demanded what, 10 things? Not 'build me a church fit for the heavens'. People drastically overshoot what they [think] god, or a god or gods want from them and read far too much into things. I am not religious because I am in good moral standing with myself and do no harm to others than cannot be undone. But hey if you need the idea of a god to keep you in check and sleep well at night, so be it, just stop interrupting my fucking class before I graduate (die for those that don't get the analogy)
nice analogy :)
While I didn't read all that, marriage will continue to be popular as long as there's a financial incentive to do so. Ignoring such other things as citizenship, wedding presents, etc.
If you want to fix marriage, better fix immigration and tax rates first.
damn you're amazing, rambling THIS much, I bet most people would be like me, skipping your bunch of text.
I actually READ all he posted.... and I can see where he's screaming from. :)
Sadly, most people miss all but the bluntest of hints.
the guys who say "DEATH TO THE CHERRY FAKER" are usually the guys with guns and suicide bombers, especially in islam, that's why they get more ink. That's also why they need to have more bullets applied to their asses, FASTER, please.
In this case the government will probably implement that into law along with the other laws executing people that go against the Islamic religion in most Middle Eastern countries.
Oh, Artefact, do you really have to mention "Made in China"? Does this "invention" has anything to do with China quality again?
Take your complaints to the BBC for mentioning it.
The device apparently works as advertised.
It leaks when hit!
What's it's product name? Titanic? XDD
I expected a CHINA QUALITY post nearer the beginning.
me too,,
btw,
the pic is from fate/s night, yeah, me FTW.
won't you be mad if your newly wed wife is non-virgin?
I prefer mine to be virgin though..
Why the hell would I care if my wife was a non-virgin? So long as she doesn't have STDs it doesn't make a difference to me.
That may be so but you, Dear Anon, are NOT most Muslim men in general. Neither am I. That doesn't make the hypocrisy in their governments smell any less shittier.
Some people get to know their bride first before being married. Because most marriages in this century tend to be NOT with random strangers, arranged by their parents, forced, with lolis or all of the above.
Really? I bet if someone that was attractive and of your sexual preference wanted to have sex with you out of wedlock, you'd just pass it up so that your future spouse could have your virginity.
Yeah, of course you would.