“New Nintendo Console in 2011 More Like Xbox 360 & PS3”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Sep 23, 2009 04:59 JST
- Tags: Announcements, Controllers, Nintendo, PS3, Square Enix, Technology, Wii, Xbox 360
Nintendo is said to be planning a new iteration of its dominating Wii console in 2011, though the console may be a direct competitor to the PS3 and Xbox 360 rather than a device aimed at children and casual gamers, and may come with a different kind of controller to the current Wii.
Square Enix president Yoichi Wada revealed what he presumably knows to be Nintendo’s plans in an interview at the Tokyo Games Show, saying the new console would be similar to the PS3 or Xbox 360 and due in 2011, potentially abandoning the Wiimote for what would presumably be a conventional controller.
He also commented that he does not expect great things from Microsoft and Sony’s copycat motion controllers:
“Present game machines already have a lot of functions: they are a network terminal, a Blu-ray or DVD player, and a gaming machine. Compared to these three pillars, the [new motion] controllers are quite limited, so the impact may be small. They are an extension of the gaming function,”
He is however impressed by Microsoft’s Project Natal, a controller system set to dispense with traditional controllers entirely, in favour of gestures and objects.
Nintendo’s recent consoles have proved highly successful in their various markets, but their technology has not been at the cutting edge for some time; presumably this new console will be an attempt to create a fully up-to-date and “HD” Nintendo platform.
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Considering the first failings of Sony and their PS3, as well as the recent failings of XBOX 360, the only ones who win are those with Wii, if you're a perfection freak.
I was taught bigger is never always better...and Nintendo is giving the gamer what is demanded...
HD was not in Wii because they wanted to bring the old codgers to this time. It worked.
But then, Nintendo delivers late so they can see what mess a feature has done and one-up it. HD? Just look how it dragged the others around.
DVD? Blu-Ray? Those don't belong on a console, in my opinion. Consoles are for games alone.
Lastly, any remarkers of 360 should Google Red Ring of Death, and Pro-PS3 fanboys should just get off the stage. They hide the fact they have more money than Joe User.
Your actually argueing the fact that Blu-ray doesn't belong on a console? Well maybe they should just take wi-fi off all 3 consoles to then?
If your statement was true and Consoles were for just games alone then connectivity with friends wouldnt be a feature either. Which is the reason that these consoles are doing so well. Wii connect you with your friends offline, microsoft and sony took a different approach with psn and xbox live obviously.
My point is that sure consoles are for gaming but to the bes bang for your buck companies like sony and microsoft, even the wii use scewing nobody wants to go back to the ps1 days CD player/gaming console? otherwise we wouldnt have bought the new systems. Your comment was obviously not thought out.. Good day. Then again thats why your aren't working for companies like Nitendo,Microsoft, or sony.
Nintendo always had superior technology in the 8 bit, 16 bit , 32 bit, and PS2 generations. Learn some history.
i hate this disagree. but when it came to Graphics Nintendo used to be the best (N64 and GC) was better in graphics all togeather but not the best games since Sony and XBOX had them. xD GC only got me because it had Resident evil on it. lol xD
I'm homosexual and I must say that I'm glad that Nintendo adopted a "gay friendly" attitude with the Wii Console. Me and all of my homosexual friends have fun playing the Nintendo exclusive titles of Wii.
I'm an extremely manly, heterosexual bloke and am about to play some really awesome, HD football games on my AnonBox360. Shit, what's this? Why won't it work?
XBox 360 is so "buga". Wii is a console made taking care of the gay market.
360 fail the most anyway.remember need 3 disc for FFXIII who give a f about wii anyway.
Lazy couch potato
3 disks is ur argument? cuz i totally forgot how to spell disk!
I'm not a fans of home consoles anymore, I like the DS and the PSP, a lot of good games, easier to hack and of course portables, I think that staying in your house and play that Wii crap is a big waste of time...
WII is already faill so the next one will fail tow. Nintendo has no chance against xbox or playstation. byebye kidz
Yes, Nintendo will come out with something that can compete against the Xbox 360, and PS3. By the time that happens. Microsoft and Ps3 will already have develop a prototype for their newer console. Sad to say, but even if Nintendo turns their focus to casual gamers. They still won't be able to compete against the other two system when it comes to casual gaming.
Bee Willy Bong~!!
I was happy until I heard about that interest in Project Natal.
-_-; damnit it nintendo, make a system that will actually have games worth playing eh?
The anti-Nintendo vibes here are hilarious. They keep ranting on how they keep failing when they are the company who makes the most money with both the Wii and the DS.
One thing Nintendo tops above Sony and Microsoft is their marketing ability. Ever since the Virtual Boy disaster they seem to know how to keep themselves afloat and make significant profits. Even with lackluster systems like the Gamecube, they were able to make significant headway to keep producing and making their target market happy. As long as they have those marketers they will never die. Even if the its next-gen consoles has the weakest performance it will still sell plenty and make money.
That is the power of Nintendo. They will find a way.
They fail as real game developers. It's like the three are in a game to get the most women. Microsoft and Sony pretty much do the conventional way and get REAL women. While Nintendo breaks out the LOLIpops to attract little girls. Nintendo is going the easy way and getting more chicks(if you can call them that) but their not attracting real women. Replace women with gamers and girls with noobs and then you may get the idea.
Buy a Wii, get a loli. Now that's something a good proposition for most of the people here at Sancom.
Obviously you have no clue what you're talking about. All you did is give an ill-defined definition of "real" gamers. Which is silly because you assume they are the ones who can dictate the industry. Which Nintendo has proven wrong because they are making money of it.
Even sillier is to assume that they fail as game developers for one system when they aren't only ones who develop the vast (and very profitable) library of the Wii.
Heck their DS library has very good and it can cater with this ridiculous "gamer" classification. They have Final Fantasy, Dragon quest and even Super robot Wars franchise in it.
Pic totally unrelated, amirtie?
what is ps3 "coming back" with? ratchet and clank? AHA ok uncharted looks good though, but what? 1 more of the list of 6 decent games?
how is 360 failing? this red ring thing just NOW becoming news?
eh heh heh. you asians and your sonys. and never-take-care-of-yourself others (honestly, take a bath and PLEEEEEASE! PLEASE JUST STOP EATING!!!). and yeah there are still too many like that for the 360 still, but DEFINITELY not as many.
as always, the comments of a console topic post are more interesting than the original post itself
I liked my wii and I've enjoyed every game I've played on it. @~@ I mean it was basically $300 something cheaper than the other systems when it was first released and it had some decent titles along with a storm of crappy games that hardly sold. It did have some good games though. Nintendo was honestly very smart with the wii. Had they competed and made a generic console like the other two they would have done bad. If we recall the gamecube was third place in the last generation for sales and if they released another system similar to the others I can confidently say it would have been the same case. The motion sensor attracted tons of people who normally wouldn't even consider a console while also providing some good/interesting titles for fans of nintendo. Now that the wii is dieing down it only makes sense to release a new system. I'd prefer if they kept the remote myself, not for the motion sensing, but because I liked the feel of being able to keep my hands apart and move them around. I have a 360 as well, I played basically all the rpg-ish games on it,enjoying them thoroughly, and no shooters because generic shooters are what I hate most about current gaming ;3;
Is a handheld still a console?
3DS.
This new console will be known as the Wii-Wii.
Interesting except by 2011, designs for a ps4 and xbox whatevertheyregonnacallit will be out. Nintendo will still be behind in the times.
that's the point, dumbshit. Nintendo will release its Wii2 at $250 while Sony and MS will release PS4 and XBOX1280 for $600+ and they will get creamed again for the first 2-3 years of the next generation.
A little too late imo.
But I can't help but cream my pants at the thought of Zelda HD.
Nintendo should do the Sega and just get the hell out of the hardware console business.
People buy Nintendo consoles just to play Nintendo IPs and minigames.
I'd say let Nintendo license the Wiimote technology to Sony and Microsoft, then just become a publisher for the Nth iteration of Mario and Zelda.
Because if I were a 3rd party publisher -- even a publisher of shovelware -- I would still be asking "Okay, Nintendo, you have the install base, but what's up with your attach rates? Wii owners don't buy games!"
If it continues to market itself as a casual's toy then boy they will face some stiff competition from the makers of Polystation and Funstation. Can't beat 1,000 games in one, all the more if they have the ORIGINAL mario, not the latest 3d but simplistic tard iteration of it.
Um, Sega started to suck really hard after becoming a third party developer. They had less pride and quality dropped along with it.
Even Sega was better for 3rd parties than Nintendo. Dreamcast was a favorite for homebrew. What's the point in making hardware if nobody but yourself will use it?
Dreamcast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wii
ITT people who misinterpret things constantly.
The Wii's a fantastic console if you have friends. It's like the first time someone could bring a console to a New Years' party without getting blank stares. The same folks who shrugged when asked if they wanted to try a game of Soul Calibur are the very ones who squeal with delight when you bust out Brawl. Mario Strikers Charged didn't get rave reviews, but put it in the hands of a group of friends who are slightly inebriated and even the one whose only experience with video games happens to be her brother's old Tetris will have a great time.
I'm wondering what angle Nintendo is trying this time. If they really are sticking to convention, it'd be in their interest to revitalize the sort of fantastic third party support they had for the SNES. The DS feels like it has a more eclectic offering of games than the Wii, which I find just a bit odd.
The next Wii HD needs more cutting edge features to compete with the ps3 booby tilt like new motion controllers Tenga flip Wii.
i dont haves one i hads one but i dont currently haves one. (that s was annoying by the way)
My comments don't seem to get through, maybe because they're too long, so I'l try and devide them up instead: To anyone badmouthing Nintendo and the Wii, get bent! The Wii is a wondeful console, with a huge-ass gamebase of old games from NES, SNES, and N64, not to mention you can play GC games on it, aswell as the new Wii games! And I have to have my dose of Mario and Zelda. The majority of games that come for the PS3 and/or XBox 360 also come out for the PC, so I can get them there. There are offcourse exceptions, and that list is growing, so I'l most likely get both consoles later, since I'm the type that has to have it all, and I love my PS2 aswell, but the Wii has some brilliant games and innovations in imo, and is defenitely the best party-console! ^^ Even some of my PS3 fanboy friends agree on that. You ever tried playing multiplayer on Rayman Raving Rabbids with a bunch of slightly alcohol-induced people in a jolly mood? It's the shit! Comic crazyness ensue! ^^
"The Wii is a wondeful console, with a huge-ass gamebase of old games from NES,"
....that you pay $5 each for...
"SNES,"
...that you pay $8 each for...
"and N64,"
...that you pay $10 each for...
"not to mention you can play GC games on it,"
...which can be had for less than the aforementioned systems' games...
"aswell as the new Wii games!"
...which consist mainly of shovelware.
"The majority of games that come for the PS3 and/or XBox 360 also come out for the PC, so I can get them there."
This would be somewhat true if you were concentrating solely on the 360 (and even that statement's a hell of a stretch), but when you can get PS3 games like Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Killzone, Gran Turismo, Resistance, Fat Princess, WipEout, Demon's Souls, and God of War fix on your high-end PC, let me know. I've always wanted to see a pig fly.
"Even some of my PS3 fanboy friends agree on that."
Insertion of the word "fanboy" into any argument kills the point you're trying to make.
"You ever tried playing multiplayer on Rayman Raving Rabbids with a bunch of slightly alcohol-induced people in a jolly mood? It's the shit! Comic crazyness ensue! ^^"
This is the only thing in your statement I can agree with.
Well said why anyone would pay for games in Nitendo's virtual libaray when you can use an emulator is beyond me...
LOL shovelware it seems that I made a wise choice getting a used Gamecube from the pawn shop.
No one has ever heard of Wipeout, Fat Princess, or Ddemon Souls.
So you're an idiot.
You only listed 4 actually memorable games out of 5 from several others that the PS3 gives.
So you're an idiot.
No one will read your whole comment because it's too long.
So you're an idiot.
Ratchet and Clank?
You're an idiot.
And for you PS3 and XBox 360 fanboys, FYI, in case you haven't noticed the Wii is dominating the console sales market hard! Not because of minigames, but because Nintendo are pouring out games for all the people Sony and Microsoft don't care about, like the people that usually don't play games, not to mention they have alot more kids games than the rest. Couple that with the suppreme backwards compatability and library, and it's innovative controls, and Mario and Zelda for the hardcore fans, and you have a great console! As mentioned, simple and fun!
Making games $60 games for my retarded cat.Who are these people that they don't care about.Casual gamers number are powerful, they can all go to hell in my book.
Don't forget, these casual gamers have the most money so Nintendo is smart of taking this market from MS/Sony.
Whine all you want but Nintendo is laughing all the way to the bank, hardcore gamer who isolates himself from the world and not being of use to the society.
Hah! So now anyone that is tired of the same Mario, Zelda, and Metroid is a person who isolates themselves from society...
Nintendo dug this hole for themselves and it's not just because they decided to focus on the casual fanbase either. One of the main problem is Nintendo still hasn't let go of their Draconian iron fist rule stubborn ways.
Part of why the N64 was a year late and a dollar short to the Playstation CD party.
Bottom line the Wii was a fad...
All that at the cost of the "core" gamer. Not that Nintendo cares, since the core gamer snubbed them and their GameCube last generation (a bit less than 22m total sold, IIRC, and by comparison even the last-place PS3 has skipped past that sales figure in less than 3 years), and the masses are eating the Wii up. Don't think for a second that the core gamer is represented by the table scraps Nintendo is throwing out. One Zelda game, a handful of Mario games, and a Metroid Prime compilation does not satisfy the "hardcore fan". If anything, the DS platform is a far better value for the core gamer than the Wii is, without sacrificing the mass appeal the Wii has.
This latest news, if true, only confirms that Nintendo is attempting to play catch-up with the other competitors for the business of the core gamer that they have neglected this generation (so far).
you do know that because of that the video game market is going down right? since more parental-like people are become gamers=more complaint about the violance in video games=devlopers forced to tone down there games=mario the only game with violance and im not just saying this cause im a hardcore gamer, most market anaysis have said this to be true, let me give you a prime example, imangez babys(wii) got 9.5 when being compared to Guilty gear accent core XX(wii)(i think that was the sub title..)which got a 6.7, see where im going here?
Toyota - the company that makes cars for people who hate driving.
Nintendo - the company that makes consoles for people who hate gaming.
...I'm starting to get a good idea on how to succeed in business. In the future, it's not fans who matter, but the anti-fans! Instead of giving good deals to people who like the stuff you do, why not rip off the people who otherwise wouldn't care less? Brilliant!
I feel like this jap just heard it would have more modern competitive specs and thought "lol so more ps3 and 360."
Also, with specs at above a ps3's people would think it a ripoff if it didn't have bluray playback and the media support entailed.
You should faith Miyamoto will whacky it up somehow though.
so more like*
Not to start a flame war or anything, but what would a Nintendo console do with that kind of power? I mean, Nintendo games (Which is to say 'things that would be released for a Nintendo console', basically its own genre at this point.) tend towards being rather simplistic, and I don't mean that pejoratively. It's just that they aren't all SUPERFLASH AWESOMETASTIC GRAPHICAL EXPLOSION THAT'S LIKE AN ORGASM IN YOUR EYEBALL with 10.2 SUPER QUADRATIC DOLBY DIGITAL VIRTUAL SOUND ENVELOPE and all that. And they don't need it. Simple and fun.
I think Nintendo would sort of screw themselves if they did this. They'd have a powerful system that wouldn't really benefit the types of games they let people develop for it, and at the same time, it'll be extra expensive.
Give me a break. In 2011, 360/PS3 level hardware is going to be last gen, so it makes complete sense for Nintendo to release a new console with comparable hardware and at the same cheap price. At the very least, Nintendo has no choice since the Wii is no longer a hot item (yes it has huge market penetration but it's only downhill from here).
It's great and all that Nintendo strives on innovation and simplicity, and that it allows a broader spectrum in demographic for target consumers (from a pre-schooler to a senior at a retirement home), but you have to realize that technology continues to move forward, with or without Nintendo's casual market.
More and more people are playing games on HD displays, plain and simple. Nintendo needs to accommodate this, and it becomes fairly obvious when their games lag behind other consoles in the graphical department.
You still want the "Nintendo" genre of games? It will still be there. Just like how Disney's classic animated films are now remastered in Blu-Ray, it still keeps its original charm, with all the "ooohs and ahhhhs" of high definition.
It's still at least 1.5years away.. by that time the Wii will look very outdated and if Nintendo aim for power comparable to PS3/Xbox360, by that time the tech would be cheap. I believe a $250 price tag for PS3/Xbox360 tech in 2011 is possible.
And it's not that developers don't want to do better graphics with Wii, it's just that there isn't enough power to begin with. The looks of most Wii games isn't because the lacks of hardware but more of knowing your target audience... that doesn't mean those cartoon-ny games use less power than realistic looking games.
The simplest way to use PS3/Xbox360 power on Wii-type games is upping the graphics to at least 720p (or maybe even 1080p!) with at least 2xAA 8xAF and targeting 60fps... that would be sweet.