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A 12-year-old girl given to a 24-year-old man as a bride died after being made to bear his child, who also died.

The Yemeni girl was only 11 when she was given to her husband, who works as a farmer in the notoriously fertile land of Saudi Arabia.

She subsequently gave birth to his son, stillborn, and then died of internal bleeding which doctors were unable to stop.

Yemen is a nation where child marriage is rife, with the government itself estimates a quarter of all girls are married by the age of 15. These girls suffer mortality rates during childbirth five times that of women in their twenties.

A number of Arab and Islamic nations are notorious for such practices, and it does not appear modernity will be reaching any of these places any time soon…

Via AP.



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    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I want to express my condolence. RIP

    Comment by soyokaze
    05:40 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I simply have to ask:

    To whom you want to express condolences, to the paedophilic husband, who made her suffer till her death, even though she was still a child? To her parents, who sold her? To their society, that doesn't give a shit about women and children?

    I instead want them to burn in hell, or rather here on earth.

    Only that girl's child may be the one we may feel sorry for, but he will probably end up as just another tormenter..

    Anon, you idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:45 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rod up your ass?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:01 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    He speaks truth. They all suck.

    Comment by Robocop
    06:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    uh, did you not read it... the infant died too, so no tormenting will be partaken on his behalf. and while i'm in the mood of pointing things out, i don't think that the little girl had much say in her possition either, as she was "given" to her husband by her parents...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, you didn't read, idiot.

    Comment by k
    06:29 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't hate but that religion is bad...
    12 year old vagina is too small to give birth...
    ...but I heard there were similar cases successful in both Japan & USA... perhaps the technology problem?
    Anyway, I don't enjoy lolita...
    I love OPPAI Adult!! Hahahaha!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You sir, deserve a medal.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    that 24 year-old guy deserves to be fucked in the rear by a shovel D:

    poor kid.. at the very least he could have waited till she's 18 then make her bear his child, idiot.

    Comment by erochichi
    07:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What about punishing him by raping with orca, a killer whale? So he can feel what that girl must have gone through.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @erochichi This is Saudi Arabia. They will probably give the guy a medal or something.

    Comment by VocaloidKiss
    07:44 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's in a better place. Away from people like that.

    Sharia law sucks. If they take over the world, I'm killin myself. Fuck all this.

    Comment by LunarSD
    07:48 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I pretty much agree he's an idiot.

    Like I said below, society demands too much out of people, especially families, to justify making kids so early on.

    But do think about this logically for a minute.

    The reason we reach puberty at ages like 9/10/11/12 years old is because that's when our ancestors were first making babies. Otherwise it would be older. There's just no getting around that fact.

    Complain as much as you like, you will still fail Genetics 101. Even despite the slightly higher mortality rate for youthful childbirth, puberty comes as the floor age of common sexual activity.

    If we started puberty at 18, these commenters would be raising their usual mindless ruckus when they heard about people in their late teens and early 20's having sex.

    Comment by VocaloidKiss
    07:54 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I disagree LunarSD above comment because of this one from the source: "Child marriage denies girls of their childhood, deprives them of an education and robs them of their innocence."

    Plus, by 18, your expected to know stuff. These are just kids. Boy, girl, they're just kids.

    Let them enjoy those years. They'll have the rest of their lives to be miserable adults.

    Comment by LunarSD
    08:06 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So in other words you agree, VocaloidKiss? Personally I think 18 is way too young for marriage and family making.

    See --> http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/09/17/12-year-old-loli-bride-dies-in-childbirth/#comment-293433

    But Genetics is Genetics whether we agree or disagree with it. It's possible to make kids when we're at that age because somewhere around 11 was our ancestor's choice of when to begin mating.

    As I said above, "Puberty comes as the floor age of common sexual activity."

    It's unviable in today's society because culture evolves faster than our DNA can keep up with.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think 18 is necessary, but for these kinda countries, certainly at least 14-15 when the girl's body can handle a childbirth. Of course this has nothing to do with her psyche.

    Comment by VocaloidKiss
    08:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry. Got the wrong impression. Yeah, I agree with all of that.

    Comment by Shuu
    08:53 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lunar, I have to disagree this time.
     
    The fact that girls can get pregnant before their natural tract for child birth is even big enough to allow for successful delivery is clearly a genetic flaw inherent to our species. The only reason we managed to survive so far is that our intelligence has always covered for our many biological shortcomings.
     
    That does NOT mean we should allow this to happen just because it's possible. I'll take a wild guess here and say that the mortality rate isn't just "slightly higher". If the skull of a fetus is much larger than a girls pelvic opening, disaster ensues. That's common sense. Only reason why mortality might not be so high anymore is that - again - our intellect has provided us with an array of ways to save the lives of both mother and child.
     
    So from a genetic viewpoint, 11 is still too young in most cases. Our ancestors were just lucky that they got away with it evolution-wise.
     
    By the way, I'm not someone complaining about preteens having sex. In the case of humans: mating != breeding. I'm complaining about dem arabs treating girls like slaves and completely ignoring common sense while they're at it (I know you do too, just saying).

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:00 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The devil is in the details.

    If your genes allow young pregnancy, some of your descendants will try to make that a survival strategy.

    In the case of one Peruvian bloodline, a female was able to deliver a viable offspring at age five.

    http://youngest_mother.tripod.com/

    Peruvian five-year-old Lina Medina, accompanied by her 11-month-old-son Gerardo, and Doctor Lozada who attended her son's birth, are shown in this 1940 file photo taken in Lima's hospital.

    When her child was born by Caesarean section in May 1939, Medina made medical history, and is still the youngest known mother in the world.

    Lina Medina's parents thought their 5-year-old daughter had a huge abdominal tumor and when shamans in their remote village in Peru's Andes could find no cure, her father carried her to a hospital.

    Just over a month later, she gave birth to a boy.

    Medina was born on September 27, 1933 in the small village of Paurange. She was only 5 years 8 months old at the birth of her child on Mother's Day, May 14, 1939.

    Comment by Shuu
    09:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've read about this case, but you can't build an argument around that. There are always exceptions and strange phenomena.

    For the majority of girls, having a child at less than 10 years means almost certain death without modern medical treatment.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:50 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LunarSD, lets look at the genetics.

    We are able to have kids at a young age, sure, but there are NO advantages at ALL to have a child so young.

    1. You cannot support it's life. You can give it milk, but you cannot defend it or anything else, nor would your husband be able to if he is 11.

    2. The rate of death is higher to having it at a younger age.

    3. The chances of the child dying or having defects are higher.

    While genetically possibly, there are no actual advantages to be taken from this to be allowed, so if we are to speak from a standpoint of evolution, there is no reason for us to allow fucking kids, and that is coming from a point with no moral ground.

    Comment by LunarSD
    10:04 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This would be interesting to run in a simulator.

    In one corner we have a tribe of, let's say, Homo floresiensis [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis]. Pygmies among Pygmies, who may have evolved to be so small in order to make breeding sooner more viable. Their heads, and by extension their species' brains, were as much as 4 times smaller than our own. But their bodies were still up to 4 feet tall. Child birth, one would presume, was less of a problem for them.

    And in the other corner we have a tribe of Homo sapiens. They're also capable of young pregnancy, but it's probably more of a vestige due to the high mortality rate.

    I would posit that the reason child birth is so potentially lethal for them, requiring them to wait some time after puberty to breed & invent cultural traditions to enforce this socially, is that their large brains evolved recently. Meanwhile we still carry instincts that find petite-ness (see every Hollywood actress ever) sexual.

    -

    The Pygmies can replenish losses of members in their tribe more quickly, which would give them an advantage during mass-death scenarios such as war, famine, natural disasters and diseases.

    They were also known to be fairly intelligent, using stone tools and fire even in spite of their smaller brain size.

    The Homo sapiens would suffer greater losses in mass-death scenarios, but in the end we're the ones still standing... Perhaps as proof that the extra brain space and emphasis on nurturing intelligence and waiting to breed somehow beats out more frequent mating cycles?

    ...Unless we were the ones that killed them to make them extinct >.>

    Comment by Shuu
    10:37 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I don't think the outcome would be any different. As I said, our intelligence and social behavior eventually compensated for this.
     
    This still doesn't change the fact that it is a flaw innate to our species. Ergo, 11 years is too young even from a genetic viewpoint. But I admit I might just be arguing semantics here...

    Comment by LunarSD
    11:13 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And I never argued against that. Just that the flaw is a recent issue, not a historic one.

    Our culture invented a quick-and-dirty patch to fix it: repress your instincts until your tribe's coming-of-age ceremonies, usually several years post-puberty.

    This still doesn't change the fact that it is a vestige of a faster-breeding/faster-dying past that may stick with our code indefinitely. Much the same way as our tailbones remain for no good reason.

    "I would posit that the reason child birth is so potentially lethal for them, requiring them to wait some time after puberty to breed & invent cultural traditions to enforce this socially, is that their large brains evolved recently. Meanwhile we still carry instincts that find petite-ness (see every Hollywood actress ever) sexual."

    I've always viewed it as a latency glitch.

    By saying this I'm not trying to excuse child marriage at all.

    I'm just offering proof that it isn't some random irrational event.

    It exists and has a statistically high prevalency because of these evolutionary latencies we're stuck with. And it is yet another good reason to study genetic engineering and artificial intelligence, in the hope that we will be able to come up with a better "Homo sapien 2.0" much faster than nature has shown it's able to do it.

    For everyone's sake, not just the children.

    I suppose an ideal solution would be to change up our hormonal pattern, and make sure that baby carriage is only possible well after the physical traits of puberty have finished growing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:27 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Would modern dietary habits affect the size of fetus skull as compared with our ancestors?

    If that is the case then it would seem our intellect for cultivation unintentionally create problem for our biology.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:54 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've got to agree with LunarSD here that indeed that humans were designed to mate early.
    From reading texts about it a while back a woman's body is physically at its best at 14 to have a child.

    Although I don't condone child marriage/pregnancies and feel sorry for the girl.

    Comment by Shuu
    12:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ no arguing with that, mid-teens are perfectly capable of giving birth safely most of the time. But 12 year olds are generally not, I think we agree here too.

    @Lunar:
    Yeah, I'm familiar with that point of yours already. Still, there's something about that "latency glitch" theory that's bugging me. Looks like I failed conveying what exactly I mean. Childbirth at that age has always had a much higher potential for resulting in death for both mother and child, so it has always been a glitch. I don't argue that it could have had any number of evolutionary advantages, like forcing us to form strong societies, or making sure only those males who are capable of controlling themselves get to spread their genes (I pulled those right out of my ass, just trying to illustrate that I do understand where you're coming from). We did end up on top after all.

    However, I don't think modern society puts very young mothers into any significant disadvantage, at least where I live. Actually, if we look at it this way, it has become less of an issue. In the developed world, girls can get all the treatment necessary to help them making it through alive and well. While in the past, there were no potential social disadvantages from having a child at an age where girls today are supposed to go to school, the fatality rate was much higher. Considering the former should not be an issue in modern social systems, early pregnancy should have become more acceptable. This is why I reject this logic. I want to look at the "flaw" from a strictly biological standpoint.

    But it seems like we were talking about two slightly different things anyway. You're trying to say that people will keep doing it because this relict of our early evolution is still in our genes (true), while all I was trying to say is that people who advocate child marriage cannot use the genetic possibility for early pregnancy as an excuse, as the same DNA that allows for early pregnancy also destines the girls to a painful death, or at least totally unnecessary suffering (also true I'd say).

    We're both right. ^^

    Comment by Shuu
    12:20 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I'm familiar with that point of yours already. Still, there's something about that "latency glitch" explanation that's bugging me. Looks like I failed conveying what exactly I mean. Childbirth at that age has always had a much higher potential for resulting in death for both mother and child, so it has always been a glitch. I don't argue that it could have had any number of evolutionary advantages, like forcing us to form strong societies, or making sure only those males who are capable of controlling themselves get to spread their genes (I pulled those right out of my ass, just trying to illustrate that I do understand where you're coming from). We did end up on top after all.

    However, I don't think modern society puts very young mothers into any significant disadvantage, at least where I live. Actually, if we look at it this way, it has become less of an issue. In the developed world, girls can get all the treatment necessary to help them making it through alive and well. While in the past, there were no potential social disadvantages from having a child at an age where girls today are supposed to go to school, the fatality rate was much higher. Considering the former should not be an issue in modern social systems, early pregnancy should have become more acceptable. This is why I reject this logic. I want to look at the "flaw" from a strictly biological standpoint.

    But it seems like we were talking about two slightly different things anyway. You're trying to say that people will keep doing it because this relict of our early evolution is still in our genes (true), while all I was trying to say is that people who advocate child marriage cannot use the genetic possibility for early pregnancy as an excuse, as the same DNA that allows for early pregnancy also destines the girls to a painful death, or at least totally unnecessary suffering (also true I'd say).

    We're both right. ^^

    Comment by Shuu
    12:22 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ No arguing with that. Mid-teens are perfectly capable of giving birth safely. 12 year olds however are generally not; I'm sure we agree on that as well.
     
    @Lunar:
    Yeah, I'm familiar with that point of yours already. Still, there's something about that "latency glitch" explanation that's bugging me. Looks like I failed to convey what exactly I mean. Childbirth at that age has always carried a much higher risk of resulting in death for both mother and child, so it has always been a glitch. I don't argue that it could have had any number of evolutionary advantages, like forcing us to form strong societies, or making sure only those males who are capable of controlling themselves get to spread their genes (I pulled those right out of my ass, just trying to illustrate that I do understand where you're coming from). We did end up on top after all.
     
    However, I don't think modern society puts very young mothers into any significant disadvantage, at least where I live. Actually, if we look at it this way, it has become less of an issue. In the developed world, girls can get all the treatment necessary to help them making it through alive and well. While in the past there were no potential social disadvantages from having a child at an age where girls today are supposed to go to school (especially way back when there was no society to speak of), the fatality rate was much higher. Considering the former should not be an issue in modern social systems, early pregnancy should have become more acceptable. This is why I reject the latency idea, the logic behind it that takes social factors into consideration also allows for conclusions that conflict with your initial intend. I want to look at it from a strictly biological standpoint.
     
    But it seems like we were talking about two slightly different things anyway. You're trying to say that people will keep doing it because this relict of our early evolution is still in our genes (true), while all I was trying to say is that people who advocate child marriage cannot use the genetic possibility for early pregnancy as an excuse, as the same DNA that allows for early pregnancy also destines the girls to a painful death, or at least totally unnecessary suffering (also true I'd say).
     
    We're both right. ^^
     
    @Artefact: please leave my other two attempts to trick the spam filter where they are, I consider this the final version of my comment...

    Comment by LunarSD
    13:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

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    Comment by Shuu
    13:23 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Haha...

    oh wow o_O

    This some l33t Shift-JIS sk1llz you got there.

    Comment by KamiOkurimono
    17:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Impressive, glad there was some reward for reading all that text.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:15 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the moral of this story: only have butt-sex with loli's untill 16

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:54 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh you, Anon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:52 19/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That guy should have some shotgun barrels stuck up his ass, then fired simultaneously. That's probably about the same feeling the girl had.
    Given that's it's Saudi Arabia, the others probably won't give a damn

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:33 28/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    02:52 dumbass

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:01 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    sometimes I think what passes for our culture is doomed to faulre, then I see people post things like this, and then I know the thought has become real.

    I love North America.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:04 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hear hear!
    We may be plagued with idiocy, but at least we aren't Saudi Arabia!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i'll take idiocy over ignorance anytime!

    Comment by Metal Masquerade
    07:45 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    America has Both. I'm not sure my residency in the U.S. will be permanent. We're taught from a young age that the free market should dominate, but i don't see anything in our textbooks about not letting people be sentenced to death by insurance companies. +1 for brainwashing

    Whichever modern nation looks the best in a few decades, i'll likely be visiting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:17 17/09/2009 # ! Bad (-0.2)

    Metal Masquerade, you're a retarded idiot for bringing up an irrelevant strawman argument. The free market has nothing to do with universal health insurance. Japan has free markets. Most of Europe has free markets. Australia has free markets. Canada has free markets. I could go on and on. The US will have health care reform soon but it won't stop having a free market because of it.

    And if you enjoy living in shitty countries that tax the middle class 40-50% so that people who refuse to get a job can live like kings, then be my guest, go move to a shitty country like England.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:58 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon 14:17 I hope you are aware of the fact that U.S has seen several attempts to reform their health care but in the end the insurence companys stopped it 1 way or another. Mostly buying the people trying to reform the health care or if that didn't work then buying enough people to oppose the reform.

    So saying that U.S can will get the reform is a bit questionable. Also note that the idea of U.S having freemarket is a bit questionable when their goverment can't really say 'no' when big companys start demanding something becouse without taxes and brides etc. from those big companys U.S goverment would have to go through serious reform just keep itself from falling apart.

    Comment by kajunbowser
    16:30 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Irony: many insurance & pharma cos. are on the side of pres. for self-preservation. LMFAO. The ppl know what they want.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:16 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're the idiot. Anon 04:05 just felt sorry for the girl and her child. He didn't mean to sympathize with the bastards that made this happen.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    +1

    Comment by LunarSD
    07:32 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *SPOILER WARNING*
    (as if any of you whining scum in this comment pile are actually interested in reading Nobel Prize-winning authors anyway)

    This article reminds me of the character Remedios Moscote from "One Hundred Years of Solitude" by Gabriel García Márquez.

    11 for sex, 12 for babies = obviously jumping the gun.

    -

    On the other hand, the reason we reach puberty at ages like 9/10/11/12 years old is because that's when our ancestors were first making babies. Otherwise it would be older.

    There's just no getting around that fact. Complain as much as you like, you will still fail Genetics 101.

    If we started puberty at 18, these commenters would be raising their usual mindless ruckus when they heard about people in their late teens and early 20's having sex.

    All these prototypical pedo-this pedo-that commenters are the usual modern unthinking drama sponges and angry opinionated refuse.

    Not really worth bothering to write a comment about, but I'm bored and educating stupid people has pretty much turned into a reflex by now.

    -- TL;DR --

    12 is a good 20 years too soon to rationally
    start raising kids into a society as complex as ours, and a twenty-something father should know better.

    But calling people victims for choosing to use their instincts a solid 3 years after puberty hits (I started at 9 like most people I know) is just as stupid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    +1

    I actually thought that was obvious, but apparently not, manners lack on the internet.

    Comment by NeonShadows
    17:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >12 is a good 20 years too soon to rationally
    start raising kids into a society as complex as ours, and a twenty-something father should know better.

    The wife doesn't need to do anything more than make babies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In prehistoric times, women evolved to bear children from the early ages of 12,13 and 14 because women who reproduced at that age were most likely to be successful in passing on those genes. If having children at the ages of 12,13 and 14 were disadvantageous, these early child bearing traits would have been selected against through natural selection and women would not be able bear children at these early ages.
    It is most likely that during these times, the chances of one succumbing to disease, starvation or injury were quite high. A female may not live to be the age of 18, but if she were to bear a child at the age of 13, then her passing would have little consequence to the continuation of her genes. This propensity to be able to bear children at an earlier and earlier age would have become realized over the course of many thousands of generations.

    Human babies require the most parental care of all species on planet earth. For this reason, having a male provider to raise the child would drastically increase the child's ability to survive, reproduce and pass on its genes. This male provider would most likely be an older male who had the skills necessary to forage and hunt. The ability of the young 12, 13 or 14 year old mother to gather resources would have a diminished impact in the child's upbringing.

    Of course, we no longer live on the savannas of Africa and we can no longer forage for food in the wilderness on our own. Raising a child from birth to reproductive age costs over $100,000.

    Raise the socially acceptable age of child bearing too high, and fewer women will have children. (decreased fertility and less interest from males)

    Lower the socially acceptable age of child bearing too low, and more mothers and children will end up without fathers for a provider. (18 year old men hardly have the resources to raise a family)

    For the continuation of a sustainable society, the following arrangement, though politically incorrect, is necessary. Pair an older man with a stable job and resources (25-30 years old) with a younger woman who still has many of her fertile years ahead of her (14-18 years old).

    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    23:44 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LunarSD.... I applaude your efforts. And I agree with what your saying 100%. I also agree that the event in question was a total tragedy....although, she doesn't have to put up with his smelly farmer ass hump theshit out of her any more....

    People, please stick to 2D when it comes to love..

    Comment by LunarSD
    02:37 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @Tiedupinknots

    Yeah, it's always a little emotional when you hear about article topics like these. But our evolved circumstances (physically, mentally and culturally) make it inevitable. Sad for the kid, for the husband's instincts, and for their shared culture which makes this situation a local minima that will recur over and over again.

    But Hyper Police in your avatar... so good, nyah!

    XD

    @Anon 19:19

    "It is most likely that during these times, the chances of one succumbing to disease, starvation or injury were quite high. A female may not live to be the age of 18, but if she were to bear a child at the age of 13, then her passing would have little consequence to the continuation of her genes. This propensity to be able to bear children at an earlier and earlier age would have become realized over the course of many thousands of generations."

    What an well-rationalized point. The logical discord, yet evolved viability, of loli attraction has always fascinated me. This is yet another solid reason to add to why the phenomenon exists today.

    Given how male and female fertility ages overlap, your analysis of the ~10 year coupling differential also lends credence to Ephebophilia and... hey wait a minute, I just noticed something.

    A male having "Ephebophilia" (they do call it jail "bait" for a reason) is just as prevalent as a female having an attraction for older men during nubile child bearing ages. Yet said female attraction to older men starting from puberty on isn't classified as a paraphilia... From what I've read on it, people say it's too commonplace to be considered deviancy.

    Thinking rationally, sexual deviancy is a classification always founded on commonness of the urge. How any one out of two mutually linked/evolved attractions be more or less common than the other o_O

    Gerontophilia is the closest existing philia, but that's an attraction to seniors.

    Wow, culture really knows how to discriminate and get away with it doesn't it? To the point that people aren't even aware of it happening, it just happens and maybe a handful of us notice it at some point or another.

    Anyway, nice points all around everyone. Don't let the innumerable bugs in our cultural host program get to you ^_^

    Homo sapien version 2.0 will be hitting the shelves sooner than we may think, and from it there will evolve a new and more rational and varied culture...

    Comment by Rakiro Mikira
    23:03 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let me start the slow clap because that was the most beautiful post I've seen on this kind of topic, SD.

    Comment by Schrodinger
    06:32 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wish I had a loli waifu. Someone to call me "Onii-chan".

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:50 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not this poser again. I bet you don't even know what is a particle in a box.

    Comment by Schrodinger
    07:18 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A particle that can move in a space surrounded by impenetrable barriers. Now then, why don't we get back to the topic at hand?

    Comment by LunarSD
    07:39 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kids are annoying. Why anyone seriously would want to marry one, I cannot fathom. Just about anyone under 20 (or better 30) is too unformed to waste attention on.

    Maybe if times were still medieval this sort of relationship could scrape by. But not anymore.

    Society is complex and getting more and more complex as technology and essential job skills become more mentally taxing.

    10 or 20 years post-puberty is a long time to wait before submitting to the baby-making instinct, but take a good look at the requirements of the world of today.

    It just makes more sense.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^
    ^
    Way to go with a half-ass definition. I know more quantum mechanics than you know about vagina, poser. How about you derive the wave functions of a Helium atom using the Hartree-Fock/Self-Consistent Field method? Is that easy enough for you?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sure that has perfect relevance to child birth and society...

    Comment by NeonShadows
    17:44 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just about anyone under 50 (or better 60) is too unformed to waste attention on.

    Comment by Metal Masquerade
    18:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LunarSD, I don't think she was given to her husband because of her relationship skills. It's more likely she was a Loli slave/baby factory.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:58 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Baby factory? Spawning medieval swordsmen?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:23 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yet, you, non-anon moralfag, are doing absolutely nothing useful. Thus your little tantrum can only be qualified as hypocrite.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    While you, Anonymous, like me, contribute nothing to the conversation making you an even bigger hypocrite throwing a tantrum.

    Take your elitism back to 4chan, where it belongs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think it due to the fact he/she was or is not Muslim or another other religion on that matter. This article only points out that this was a culture idea that has been followed for many years..

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:29 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you had to ask whom the condolence was for then you obviously don't know what condolence means.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:20 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i agree. like if he doesnt fuck that girl 3 times a day to get her pregnent. she would not have died. the man probaly doesnt like to use condom. who does, especially on a 12 year old.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:47 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wasnt the child born stillborn? yeh he was..

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    stupid fucking Kanakees. they all deserve death!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:45 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you re kind of mentally crazy aren't u ......

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:22 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Soyokaze is a fucking faggot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:48 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ok, but when the occident invades such dictatorships to stablish a liberal occidental DEMOCRACY hipocrital liberals start to bitch...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:25 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Any society shaped by religion is immoral and evil.

    Comment by Rakiro Mikira
    22:57 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Soooo...your society too then?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:04 30/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think there are people that feel pain when know about these news, cause they are humans, and that´s why he commented that.
    And, common, it´s obvious that the girl was going to die, or something like that, her body was too small, so, we can say that everyone involved was just ignorant, after all, we are talking about saudi arabia

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:18 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    12 year old is good for sex. but i guess he indirectly killed her. if he didnt fuck her 2 times a day. this is unlikely to happen.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:35 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I, too, wish to express my condolences to that poor man who lost his loli.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:39 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    All islamists are lolicon

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:06 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Suddenly, rorisex doesn't seem as hilarious any more. Thanks a lot AP.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's always guro

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And contraceptives.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Eww...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:22 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's called a comdom.

    Comment by Maikeru
    05:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you mean condom, right ? O o

    well people. we all know what to do to save the country, dont we ? we must migrate there and show them how to treat loli's !

    who's with me ?! >=3

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:05 30/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    COMDOM... FAIL!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:30 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because it's don't protect you from SIDA.
    Thanks to vatican bastard.

    Comment by Metal Masquerade
    18:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't you know? Condoms are banned in all strict religious societies, like that compound in Texas.

    Comment by NotAnonymous
    04:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Poor girl.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In a former job I knew a Libanese woman, she told me she was given to her husband at 16 and her sister was at 14 0_o. For her wasn't strange.

    Pedos need to change their faiths

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:14 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I lol'd.

    But seriously, if a girls gonna die from childbirth, and it's 5 times as high... get her an abortion that way you get free rorisechs for longer!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well ill bet you $100 that the man didn't love the girl, and couldn't care less if she died, he was done, got it out of his system, and it was time for her to die. you cant honestly expect him to tell you honestly he loved her and wanted to spend the rest of his life with her, come on. he took a child for a bride, theres no love in that.

    in the states, even if this crap was in practice. you'd be sure to see them in court and charged with murder. cause thats exactly what it is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The fact you think abortions are accepted in Yemen makes me rofl!

    Comment by Maikeru
    05:35 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the fact you rofl made me lmao

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the fact that you lmao makes me fap

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:27 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    WUT.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    pedos? kind of like christan priests with little boys? lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i think you mean catholic

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:50 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    catholics suddenly lose their christianity? became jewish or something?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:53 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    same shit

    Comment by Chen-03
    05:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No but there are a bunch of sane people (not catholics) claiming to be christians too. We don't want to offend them now, do we?

    Comment by Chen-03
    05:23 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    don't mind the sane, they believe in god too.
    and screw the edit function. It takes like 15 minutes to navigate there, because the site is just too damn slow. (And I think I have a pretty fast connection)

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Priests are only applicable in catholicism, so it is wrong to say "Christian Priests". That's like saying the Book of Mormon is a christian book, but it's not, it's a mormon book. It doesn't matter if mormons are a christian cult.

    You can only call something christian if it applies to EVERY christian sect. believing in jesus is christian. Priests are only catholic.

    Comment by NeonShadows
    17:53 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Incorrect.
    There are Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran priests also.

    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    23:57 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anon 14:21...

    Not to nitpic and this is furthering the offtopic....

    But, Technically mormons are not Christians...

    The Christian Bible states quite clearly the words of Jesus Christ, "There will be NO more Prophets after me".

    Hence the Mormon founder based a religon on Christianity, but separated from by useing false prophacy(according to Christian Faith).

    Sorry...Descipleship Student...

    Comment by Chen-03
    19:14 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You don't need to be sorry for being a discipleship student. Seeing you posting here proves that you can't really care about foolish stuff like christianity anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:16 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    seriously. the things religions can make people accept as normal are incredible when you think about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:18 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    14 or 16 is a huge difference to 12 though. Girls come out of puberty around 15-16 and that age was considered "woman, not girl" in Europe too some hundred years ago.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Those early-growing lolis are becoming scary O.o

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    04:14 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually being pregnant at that age was always possible even known its not really healthy. The human race is the only one that can become pregnant always anyways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:33 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, it's neither healthy nor non-healthy. The fact is that girls 12-18 have LESS problems giving birth as a percentage than older women do.

    Why, I don't know. The common knowledge is that the older, 'bigger' female would have an easierr time giving birth, but that is not the case in the slightest usually.

    I will say one thing.... if the girl couldn't birth the baby naturally after 12 hours in full labor, they should have fucking well given her a caescaren section.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:40 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    15 is the best age biologically; and it's mainly because women are not ready to give birth until they become pregnant, younger girls tend to adapt faster. I do however find it hard to believe 12yos have fewer problems than older; unless you're talking like 45+...

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Different female humans have different anatomies and metabolisms.

    Ideal age for childbirth must be customized - the medical types call this "gynecological age."

    One woman might be ready at 18, another might be ready at 20, but both would have a "gynecological age" of (e.g.) 18.

    18 to 25 seem to be the best child-bearing years for a large number of women. Undoubtedly many healthy teenage girls could bear children without caesarian sections.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:36 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    18-22 (look at the research, there's a distinct difference between 22 and 23) is the best age for mothering a single child, because the mother can take it better, however 15 is considered the best age traditionally as it is an age that natural births are still exceptionally high (15-18 is about the same chances as 22-27) however it 1. gives a longer time to mother more children, and 2. allows the mother to healthily give birth for longer. Both Anons have a point, if you want a traditional family with lots of kids do it at 15, if you're more into these modern familettes with only 1 or 2 children (3 at a push, but more than that you're still better off starting younger) then catch them 18-22.

    Comment by motaku96
    05:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually you can't become pregnant before the girl goes through puberty and starts releasing ovaries.

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    05:09 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like I said once her already, the youngest mother ever recorded was 5 and not in puberty. A female actually got everything she need for pregnancy before puberty when her body grows.

    Comment by MelancholyMomo
    05:20 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No.. the girl you are talking about was merely an extreme case, and had started puberty well before what is considered normal for a woman..

    Women/Girls starting puberty at precocious ages is not unheard of..

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    05:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually you can't have puperty in that age if you look at the medical definations of puperty.

    Comment by Shuu
    05:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is an age limit included the definition? So that a child can't be considered in puberty even if all other biological conditions have been met? That's kinda hard to believe. At least I couldn't find any hard age limits on wiki.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:39 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huh. Death by dick, eh? I mean, it's actually kinda funny, if you think long and hard about it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Aww, crap. I didn't mean to reply to this post. I hit reply, and then I changed my mind and decided to start a new one by hitting the reply button at the bottom of the page. Unfortunately, it still treated the message as a reply to a specific post. Weird, huh?

    Comment by LunarSD
    08:23 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Anon 06:41

    That's a common Sankaku bug that Artefact's probably too amused with to ever fix.

    Everyone learns it the hard way -_-;

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    'Comment by motaku96
    17-09-2009 05:05 # !
    Actually you can't become pregnant before the girl goes through puberty and starts releasing ovaries.'

    Girls do not release ovaries.

    Girls release eggs from ovaries.

    Boys do not release testicles.

    Boys release sperm from testicles.

    Learn to speak English.

    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    00:18 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    /\ Yess.... But for boys one does need to wait for the testes to drop or release into the scrotum proper....

    But we all got the gist of what anon ment....

    Comment by Otaku Girl
    22:24 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wrong Ayu.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:16 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    they are secretly killing all our lolis!! but on a serious note RIP little girl

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stupid westerners. This is how polite society treats its women. We don't let them run around in short skirts and act like sluts like you do. Feminism is evil and our culture rightly rejects it. We understand that woman are only good for child birth. That's why they are pressured to marry young. Otherwise they are viewed as worthless, which is true.

    Comment by Hakurei
    04:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Here, watch this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:40 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hahaha, that "women know your limits" youtube was funny as hell.

    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    00:23 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now that's some funny shit!!!

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    04:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope your mother will be killed in a painful dead if she didn't already kill herself for giving birth to such a stupid son, according to you she is only shit anyways.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^5's Ayu.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My mother is not a feminist whore. She is a proper woman who supports traditional morality. She knows that a woman's proper place is in the home. She is a lovely woman, unlike most western females.

    Seriously though, why is everyone so upset at my other comment? I thought that we all hated feminism here?

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    05:00 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not really, special since many females are here and nobody here got anything against common feminismn which is about equality and not discrimination of men like at radical feminismn. Also if females are worthless besides for making childs, you are the exact same thing.

    Comment by Shuu
    05:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Captain, the troll readings are off the scale!"

    Given the slight chance you're actually serious, go die in a fire. Hating feminism (or more precise, hating female-superiority groups), does not equal hating females.

    I can't wait until you, your brethren and that abomination you call a religion are wiped off the face of our earth. You're the worst kind of scum to ever disgrace this planet.

    Comment by Hexa
    05:42 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm a man and I beleive in equality of men and women.

    Why should women be denied the right to learn or to work?

    Your reasoning, that women should only give birth and take care of the home, has something of the stone age in it. It's what our monkey ancestors did 100,000 years ago. Ugh! Woman stay in cave! Man go kill Mammoth! We've come a long way since then, though obviously you're are still clinging to the way of the monkey.

    As for religion, I'd assume any decent religion would preach love for your brothers and sisters, aswell as tolerance and acceptance. If we are truly noble creatures, created in the image of our lord (lol), then none of us have the right to look down upon and discriminate another man or woman or child.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:02 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Look at the result of "equality" so many family suffer and blow up after a 'mariage' of 2 persons who don't care about they're children. Equality is a human word so it's wrong by definition because we don't know The truth.

    Comment by Shuu
    07:54 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So treating women like slaves will ensure that families care for their children more? The logic is astounding.

    Families getting destroyed has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with people in general.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hoping and wishing won't kill your enemies.

    If you want to kill, try a more reliable method, like a pipe bomb or a pistol.

    If you want to kill people who flame you on the Internet, learn how to track IP numbers, and set up traps so that you can double-check that your targets aren't behind proxies.

    In short, learn the tricks that any private investigator knows. Then go commit murder. Have fun.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:31 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Instead of ranting here, why don't you strap a bomb and blow yourself up. Get the fuck out of our country.

    Comment by motaku96
    05:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is no country here. We're on the internet. Anyway, don't feed the troll. I doubt he's even muslim. Probably just some anon idiot in his mothers basement.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    motaku96, you're the idiot who talks about "releasing ovaries" instead of "releasing ova," so you're obviously pretty low on the IQ scale. Are you sure you're capable of discerning the difference between idiots and normal people? Even if you're sure - who gives a damn about your opinion?

    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    00:28 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    At leaast motaku96 doesn't hide behind the anon feature...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:40 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or in other words "if we wait til they know what they're doing, we would actually need to work to get a wife". Fucking pathetic. Sounds to me like that whole society is fucked up. I think it's time to make some (forced) changes.

    Comment by MidnightTide
    07:02 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You people postin in a troll thread....

    and if this anon isn't trollin, well, someone put him (and people who think like him) out of his misery.

    (and I really can't wait till the Middle East runs out of oil, so they can go back to being ignored again)

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:05 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Stupid westerners. This is how polite society treats its women. We don't let them run around in short skirts and act like sluts like you do. Feminism is evil and our culture rightly rejects it. We understand that woman are only good for child birth. That's why they are pressured to marry young. Otherwise they are viewed as worthless, which is true."

    I agree with you. Females should be married when they are able to have children. Any woman who is pregnant has a chance of dying, the way to prevent this is to, if the birth is clearly difficult (has been going on for hours) is to go to a hospital (only when there are difficulties). The reason that pregnant girls in the US and UK don't die is because where there are complications there is a doctor.

    Anon: can you join the forum at http://mens-right.net/forum . It would be nice to hear from an anti-women's rights, pro-men muslim or arab for once; most muslims on the net are pro-feminism and denounce those who marry young women before the age of 16 or 18. They also are happy that the "west" is putting up girls schools everywhere so as to delay the marraige of females and to make them not want to marry the men by teaching ideas such as that the female has the right to concent or not to the marraige (and thus hold out for the richest man), that men may not have relations with their wives with out concent (marital rape), etc etc etc. Women's activists are destroying the world of men, they are instituting the rule of the animal kingdoms: the females choose who mates and who's lineage dies off... and they mostly all choose the "biggest"/"baddest" male and the rest of the troupe ... well they can go suck it.

    --MikeeUSA--

    Comment by M
    04:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its only fun and games until somebody knocks a loli up. (╬ ಠ益ಠ)

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:28 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Horrible death for the girl and her baby. She suffered three days birthing and probably lots of pain months prior since her body wasn't ready to have a baby yet. RIP mother and baby. Now its a good thing us humans can't cast spells like characters do in computer games isn't it? Those people who mutilate and butcher humans would live no more if us humans could.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:35 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey, she only 'suffered' for three days because they were too STUPID to give her a C-section after the first 12 hours in full labor, totally dilated, which is the standard even for GROWN WOMEN in the United States and most other 1st and 2nd world countries.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:48 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Husband probably didn't want to pay the extra money for one. It's actually not uncommon for women of all ages in Islamic-law countries to die unnecessarily in childbirth since it's up to their husbands, not them, to decide which medical procedures they'll receive. Women and children are easy to acquire, and thus worth very little.

    Comment by kajunbowser
    08:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly, some ppl think that way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol@Saudi Arabia ... lol@their religion... lol@their law.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And this is news..... why? The fact is that many grown women everyday die of having babies.... fact is that for 12-18 year olds, the rate of dying is LESS when taken as a percentage of those giving birth than for older women.

    Comment by Ayu Jochuu
    04:36 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just use your brain a second and then you know why is less. There woman in the age of 19-100+ existing then 12-18 year old ones so the rates are sure higher for woman above that age.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:31 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No.

    Use your brain alone, and you'll just guess and fool yourself into believing it.

    Instead, locate the relevant experts (physicians, demographers) and hit the library.

    It takes time and effort, but it leads to useful results. Unlike Assyu Jochuu's wild-ass self-deception.

    Comment by Shuu
    10:06 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lolz0rs, I'd sure like to see that physician who states that a 12 year old is less likely to die during childbirth than a physically fully developed adult (which of course is still lower than 18 years, but that's not the point). The fatal flaw in your logic is that you group 12 year olds together with teenagers.

    By the way smart-ass, you're the one who started claiming things, so the burden of proof is on you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:12 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "The fatal flaw in your logic is that you group 12 year olds together with teenagers."

    12 year olds _are_ ten-agers.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:16 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The teenage years are from ages 13 to 19. Like thirteen, fourteen......

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:56 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the hell are you talking about?

    Girls who give birth before the age of 15 are five times more likely to die in childbirth than women in their 20s.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:33 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    shes 12 and not a virgin im 21 and i am were oppisites... oh yeah and im a guy

    Comment by RLich
    04:36 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ouch?

    Comment by maga
    04:48 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A moment of silence for the poor loli and I hope that bloody farmer burns hell.

    Comment by Persona
    04:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Saudi is really full of lolicon XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    it's ironic that they hide behind Islamic law which doesn't specify an age for women to be married so they can have sex with little girls.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:12 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No religion specifies an age.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She didnt die because she was only 12, it sometimes happen, sadly.
    Anyways, my sincere condolence, may a better world await you at the otherworld, deal little girl ;_;

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:55 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    did you mean "dead little girl" or "dear little girl"?

    Comment by crabdog62482
    05:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's sad. Putting aside the issue of when a girl can be considered a woman and give her consent to have sex, these people are morons for ignoring basic biology: A preteen's body is not ready to give birth to a child, even though they may be sexually mature, and not all women, regardless of age, can have a natural birth.

    Comment by Shuu
    05:12 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Truth. But that's to be expected from a society that has ceased to advance centuries ago.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you damn right babarian must die in the line of evolution.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Those people can say something like:

    "you infidels will never understand us". and then they declare FATWHA on you (they want you dead).

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really hope those countries will stop using religion to mask their lustful domination on children :/

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:25 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Amen to that. Ours too, though.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    13:51 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lustful domination on children? More like the desire to get offsprings as soon as possible. If it's just for sex and lust, the "husband" wouldn't force the girl to bear the baby.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:20 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This would not have happened if he had stuck it in her pooper.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:22 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    husband = shit =3

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:25 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    omg thats so sad T_T

    Comment by Exitium
    07:14 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope the girl and her child can rest easy.

    Comment by Chen-03
    05:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Did the commentors from sankaku went through some major changes? Condolences to the girls? What's going on? I thought this was a fun site and expected mindless comments like "If she was 2D this wouldn't have turned out this way", "Yemen seems to be the place to go" or something similar. Please people, save your morals for serious sites.

    Anyway, Yemen seems to be the place my condolences go,...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well you know most people joke around here.
    People began stereotyping sankaku also mostly becouse of anons
    Anons are not actualy sankaku user.

    Still medicine sucks there,i wonder if they have something against ceasars cut there.Or maybe they both wished to try a natural birth.

    Anyway my condolences also.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:12 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I assume you are talking about Cesarean section. Since the husband is a farmer, I doubt that they can afford the procedure. Human female pelvis is really against the odd in nature in that the opening is actually smaller than a human fetus skull(full term). Natural child birth was probably too much for her to handle, even C-section is probably not foolproof. To tell you the truth I would much rather scrubbing in for ampututation/trauma than a C-section, it smells bad and it's always a freaking mess, not elegant at all. I really doubt a 12-years old can handle a tug of war with her uterus. Also cannnot rule out other problems like preeclampsia, etc.

    Comment by Shuu
    05:59 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You must be new here. Sankaku was nothing like that in it's early days. What you describe is a recent development.

    Comment by Chen-03
    20:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, I know this site just about an year or so. There were always different kind of comments, but here I miss the fun comments a little, like "Vid/Pics or it didn't happen."

    Feels kinda awkward to read a site you visit for fun and get all those serious seeming comments to read.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    13:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is not 4chan, my friend. We don't need to try hard to be Internet tough guys and make fun on people's death (all the time) to be so-called Internet superheroes.

    Plus i believe, aside from the fact that the victim is a loli, Sanconners (Troll Anons don't count) are probably getting more sympathize over these kind of cases which constantly popping out in this site.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:55 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    where are the feminist bitches when you need them

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:59 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    they are saving the 2d children.But you know 2d children are actualy dead objects.

    Comment by kajunbowser
    08:32 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They don't dare go to where Sharia Law is prevalent. They'd be executed on site (or forcibly married and raepd, then executed). Ironically, I'd liek to see them try and I'd gladly pay PPV to see such a spectacle.

    Comment by susume
    06:02 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wheres Agnes and EN when the likes of 12yr old's in Yemen need them. I have more respect for a 10 yr old girl named Nujood Ali then the people mentioned above. She didn't have an international organization and the funding they do but she sure stood up for herself and got a divorce.

    Stories like these make me believe that these groups truly dont care for their causes and just want that money to continue rolling in

    /endrant

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:43 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    +????

    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    07:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honestly, I think there's a racist component, there. The senior EN types probably all think of Arabs/Berbers/Persians/etc as terrorists-in-training who can't reasonably be expected to civilize themselves.

    But Japan? "Oh they're salvageable, we just need to cure them of their perverted 2D porno. plus, they're easily intimidated."

    And if you're about to tell me how Agnes Chan can't be racist towards Asians, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.

    Comment by kajunbowser
    08:38 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^This. In case susume hasn't noticed, many Chinese haet Japanese, Filipinos haet Japanese, Japanese haet N. Koreans, S. Koreans haet Japanese (if they make fun of them in any fashion) & vice-versa. I could go on all day and give examples.

    Also, is that bridge in Alaska? I'd buy it for scrap.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never assume human actions are anything but egoistic.
    You have to be really naive to believe all those humanitarian organization are held together by the goodness of people's hearts. There ain't no such thing, and even if there is, human society makes sure to stamp on anyone who ever tries to adapt to a different mindset.

    Our social behavior is so primitive that I find it laughable when some people try to difference humanity as something far superior to the other species of this planet.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    12:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like I've said before, it's not UNICEF and EN's bussiness if the victims are real, alive, not 2D, not made of pixels, and not fictional...

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh muslims, way to prove that we can in fact de-evolve.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:43 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Methinks the problem is they never evolved in the first place. If it weren't for oil that whole region would be worthless.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They did create algebra a long time ago.

    Comment by Shuu
    09:22 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They evolved for a bit, then stagnated. And then they started to de-evolve to a level lower than what they started out with.
     
    Besides, they didn't "create" algebra. Many ancient cultures thousands of years before them had advanced mathematical knowledge. They just happened to re-invent it after it had been lost for the umpteenth time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:31 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and the Westerners claimed it was theirs.
    It seems anything profitable to the West is OKAY to the world and anything profitable to Muslims is not right. Stupid world we live in. Biased. And downright moronic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:37 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The funny thing is that rape actually makes a lot of sense from an evolutionary standpoint. It's a pretty good way to assure your genes get spread around.

    Doesn't change the fact that it's morally reprehensible, though.

    Comment by Shuu
    10:26 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No it doesn't. Females only accepting males that exhibit a set of superior characteristics (depending on the specific species), which is innate in all animals that employ sexual reproduction and in which the individual is comparatively independent from other individuals (as opposed to species that form hives, like ants, bees, you get the idea), is one of the mechanisms that ensure only superior genes get passed on to succeeding generations. The fact that most males respect getting rejected is what makes this evolutionary strategy effective.
     
    If every male animal that gets rejected by a female resorts to rape, you'd have a bunch of inferior retards running around that are more likely to fail later in live. And in fact, rape is rather uncommon among all organisms.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:25 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this girl wasn't raped though. in fact, this story has nothing to do with rape. just because some countries have the concept of "statutory rape" (i.e. sex with a minor), doesn't mean it has anything to do with real rape.

    Comment by Shuu
    14:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How can you know the girl wasn't raped? Is it written somewhere in the article? Any mention of her approving the marriage, and consenting to sex? In all likelihood, this WAS the result of a rape. Most muslim girls who get married off resist their new owner at first. It usually takes a few months of beating them into submission until they just let it happen, and even then it continues to be rape.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:17 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Every man has the right to rape his wife. If you disagree, may you not for long.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:41 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I feel so sorry for what that girl went through. Her parents and "husband" deserve to be tortured the rest of their natural lives.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:18 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No they do not. If I knew your name I'd give it to the yemini athorities.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So no pics how a 12y old pregnant loli looks like?

    Would like to see it.

    Comment by MidnightTide
    07:03 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    go back to your basement lolicon

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    don't need to be lolicon or anything for it.Just interested in how it would look like.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:13 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Use Google man, it does wonders.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:13 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What are you doing here ??? Pretty strage O.O'

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    IT'S AWWWWWWWWWWWRIIIGHT!

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and i thought red states were retarded. at least americans know this kind of thing is wrong. this is fucking culture to them. if this were a century ago a european nation would've invaded them and made them succumb to christian values. too bad no one thought oil would be useful back then.

    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    07:35 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ironically, it was Islam who came the closest to taking over the world.

    Be thankful that Spaniards are fucking crazy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:15 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Arabic thread is overrated. Big empires have the tendency to fall apart over time, especially after their leader dies.

    Also, you are watching too much 300. Those guys were Persians and they convert to Islam some 600 years after the battle of Thermopylae (the battle where led by king Leonidas).

    The worst Arabic invasion that managed to get a grip over the Balkans for 5 centuries comes much later during the reign of the Byzantine and later Holy Roman empire. That's around 1500 years later.

    Comment by yggr
    12:44 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Silly anon. 300 has nothing to do with the above post, and Islam first appeared around the 6th century. And have you ever heard of the Berbers invasion of Spain and Southern France? The Battle of Tours? The Reconquista?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:37 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    come to china and they will taste pork

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:42 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some times I wonder if some people are fit to live.
    This makes me want to do something involving a high power rocket , about 50 feet of 150# test fishing line and the husband's reproductive organs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:21 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why? Because he dared impregnate a fertile female? Because they didn't have a doctor?

    This happens to older women aswell. Alot.

    You are saying cliche shit to curry favor (in your mind) with your feminist society. Your society should have something with high powered rockets done to it.

    Comment by asmadeous
    07:53 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of all articles... this begins to disturb me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    USE CONDOMS!!!
    Assholes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:37 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I believe it was that man's goal all along to procreate. And doesn't Islam forbid contraceptives?

    Comment by LunarSD
    08:19 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Spoiler Warning
    ( as if any of you are actually interested in reading Nobel Prize-winning authors anyway :P )

    This article reminds me of the character Remedios Moscote from "One Hundred Years of Solitude" by Gabriel García Márquez. I think it was having to carry a pair of twins that couldn't move about in her tiny 11 year old belly that did her in.

    11 for sex, 12 for babies = obviously jumping the gun.

    And being forced into marriage basically is slavery, so Artefact tagged this rationally.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:34 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Regardless of whether this particular girl was forced, there are doubtless many girls her age who are eager to try to get pregnant - whether inside or outside of marriage makes little difference.

    If you intend to protect the lives of such girls, you will have to deny them sexual freedom. You can either use an existing system of rules or make a new one.

    Islam and Christianity get a bad rap for causing various practical problems as they try to deny various freedoms.

    However, no matter what system of rules you use to deny human freedom, there will be some hard cases that slip through the cracks.

    Islam or Hinduism, democracy or monarchy, communism or aristocracy - you're going to end up falling into some kind of system. And you're going to end up causing some tragedies.

    Comment by Shuu
    09:05 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are indeed many girls her age who get themselves pregnant on their own accounts, but I don't see anything wrong with that. It shouldn't be encouraged, since it's an unnecessary stress on either public health funds or the money of their parents to make sure they survive, but that's just part of the price you pay for freedom. A very minor and irrelevant price I'd say. Also, awareness of all the dangers that come with sex is rising even among the very young this way. And that's a good thing entirely.

    Forcing girls into marriage and impregnating them however is wrong by any reasonable standard. I don't see a reason why you can't forbid the latter while allowing the former.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:01 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you forgot capitalism system who make many tragedies.
    Damn who have the real solution for live together in pease anyway...

    Comment by LunarSD
    Comment by matrixdude
    08:24 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What else to expect? a c-section would probably kill her too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:35 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    every sad indeed T-T.....

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    maybe we could get rid of religion = but know one would listen to that idea and why worrie about 2d girls wat are they going to do come out of the scrren have sex then jump back in the screen and my condolence may the rest of her family be brutally murder

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ah, what a civilized place. Even animals wait for a certain age. Perverted monsters in that country and the people allow it. Who cares what their religion is? Torch the place.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:23 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Female animals procreate immediatly once they are able to have children you fucking moron.

    Anyone who is pro-women's rights should be killed.

    Comment by Fonzer
    09:47 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Must have been one dumb farmer there.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:49 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That top picture is terrifying. :X

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:01 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Kids (24) plus kids9 (11) having kids(couple weeks old). What a world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:07 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you expect them for the girls to wait until 20 to have babies when they found out 12 years old die faster than 20 years old.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:29 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nuclear energy does wonders with retarded societies. Just ask the Japanese for that...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:06 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're all mutants now lol. They're make a 'societies' like a damn ants hive.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:37 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its sad that in this day and age acts like this are still condoned.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:28 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's even sadder is that most of the world is okay with this bullshit because of the spread of Islam.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:26 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Its sad that in this day and age acts like this are still condoned."

    You think just because your sick feminist anti-man society happens to be the most powerful that you can deny men the right to have young females of childbearing age as wives.

    You think that?

    Well some men don't agree with you, and they are willing to fight and kill you before you indoctrinate all their youth against men's liberties and pro-women's rights.

    Go fuck yourself scumbag.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:18 21/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if by "fight" you mean pathetically and hilarious explode yourselves ineffectually against our mighty war machines of justice, sure, have fun trying that you monkey fucker

    You're weak, you're cowards and the only way you can get laid is by raping kids

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:42 30/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    +1000, anon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:45 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    People need to love their lolis. Srsly, if I had a loli waifu I would treat her with kindness and candy. And put mustard on my penis for her to lick off.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    12:21 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You killed your loli wife just because you want a shota son. Happy now you Arabian scumfag!!?

    RIP to the girl btw..

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:33 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It can't be helped.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:53 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuckin sick bastards, RIP.

    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    13:11 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nooo! A loli is lost D:

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:45 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Another proof (from thousands and thousands) that God DOES NOT EXISTS !

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huh? How does this prove that God dos not exist? Lol at your logic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:51 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She was a fucking sand monkey, there's nothing to be sad about, and the loli was bound to look ugly as sin and covered in shit and sand..

    Comment by MaidNiac
    14:17 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Try again next time when you finally turn 10, kiddo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:25 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The way it should be.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:58 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    is dat sum loli bride

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:43 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now there's a religion for Pedobears and Loli lovers, you guys should definitely go down there and rape some moar!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:58 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    stupid
    the parent of the girl must be stupid too.
    early pregnancy never good for health
    make it at least 20 something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No. Females should be married once they are able to have children. Some amount of women of any age will have a pro-longed birth and should be taken to a doctor. Go fuck yourself pro-women's rights supporter.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck you Saudi Arabia!!!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:17 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    At least you know how to spell, though it's obvious you can't read. This was in Yemen.

    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    15:07 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Still, fuck you Saudi Arabia. Just on general principle.

    Comment by GodOfSpeed
    01:11 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So stupid >_>

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:19 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is terribly sad to hear.

    And what an idiot! Why would he screw up that tight pussy by making her have a baby?! Fucking retard...

    Comment by mechwarrior
    07:05 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Agnes Chan must be licking her lips from hearing this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:20 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is messed up but just to let everybody know. This is NOT what Islam teaches, every religion has misguided followers and these guy's are wrong.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:14 21/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    it IS what islam teachers, you own prophet fucked a year old now get the fuck out you terrorist pedophile piece of shit

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:25 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    MUSLIMS ARE FUCKING BEASTS.

    Comment by erochichi
    03:02 19/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And we loli otaku`s dream of doing same things? Oh, i forgot, we dream of it, and enjoy fiction.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:56 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    月の下で、ロリといっしょ〜

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:45 18/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well thats.... lovely...

    Comment by Hellmen
    01:44 19/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Religious discussions on the Internets: always the greatest source of humour.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 19/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Religion is quite humorous, your right. Be it life after death or reincarnation, it serves only to keep humanity in bondage. The sad thing is that their religion has spread throughout the world, albeit in small doses. We need a new religion, free of such suffering, and we need to teach it to them. In spades. Bitches will pay for this, dearly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:42 22/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So... just like most of the world, First, Second, or Third. The real difference is that she didn't have modern medical trained experts with proper equipment? Saudi Arabia does have a lot of good hospitals and medical professionals --- but they might not have had a proper female doctor around to treat her in time.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:25 25/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fking retards. As soon as I read this, I knew it would be spammed with comments saying things like "omg, that fker! he'll burn in hell for what he did!" based on the fact that people in other countries don't agree with their view of age of consent.

    I hope these people know that more than 3/4 of the world has an age of consent under 18, yet go around with an undeserved sense of self righteousness, trying to push their views on everyone else in the world and bash those that don't agree.

    23:50 19/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    this sort of thing doesn't surprise me age difference between the husband and bride, how sick it is, the death. heck the world's youngest Mother was 5!

    the world's youngest mother (in 1939) was a 5 year both she and her son survived the birth. the son thought she was his sister but later learned the truth age 10. he died age 40 and the mother also gave birth to a second son 33 years after the first.

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