Sales of the PS3 Slim in Japan have hit record levels, with the console selling 150,000 units in four days, 50% more units than the Xbox 360 sold in the entirety of the 2009 financial year.
The figures show the PS3 Slim to have sold 150,252 (the old model sold an additional 500 units in the same period) in the four days after its release, the highest since the console’s release.
This brings the Japanese PS3 sales total to 3,431,964 units, with the Xbox 360 trailing with 1,113,372.
Of course, the real question is how much this release will do to close the global 10 million unit gap between the Xbox 360 and the PS3, although just how many of those units are still working is open to question…
Via Hachimaki.








well damn....
Hmmm can't wait for sales status during December D:
XD You discount hunter you!
I'd say it'll close the 10 million global sales gap without a problem.
This is Final Fantasy XIII we're talking about here.
It's on both systems, so it's not necessarily true that it'll help edge in the PS3.
It's only on PS3 in Japan so it should boost sales like crazy there.
Internationally the effect won't be quite so large depending on whether there are major differences between the 360 and PS3 version. However I know of a few people who are still sitting on their PS2's and not upgrading until FFXIII comes out so it still may cause a pike in PS3 sales internationally as well.
And there is still Versus which is exclusive, personally I am looking forward to that one more cause teleportation is awesome.
I am one such ass hole here still sitting on my PS2 and only waiting to purchase a PS3 for FF13.
I too am waiting until FF13. Hopefully they'll release the special FF themed PS3 in the states.
Assuming the price is the same in japan, people spent more the 40 million U.S. dollars on the Slim. And that's only if each was $299.00.
Imagine an average of 1 game per console. That's another 5-10 million spent right there!
Marketing at it's best my friend.
Step 1: Create Awesome Product
Step 2: Make it expensive
Step 3: Wait for competition to lower price
Step 4: Wait a bit
Step 5: Drop prices!!!
Step 6: ?????
Step 7: PROFIT!
And how many of these purchases were new owners and not fat PS3 owners upgtading? Its a parallel to the number of Xbox 360s bought as replacements for RROD.
Butthurt X-box fanboy is butthurt...
Lame insult is lame
i own both consoles, that comment was really lame I have to agree :/
It really isn't comparable to the RROD 360s. Old PS3s are still usable and can be sold to other consumers to increase the install base.
how many of them are resellers and consider that considerable amt of ps3 sold in china are from japan.
Most people I've spoken to that already have a PS3 are not interested in spending another 300.00 bucks on ANOTHER PS3.
well... it depends on the model, if you have the launch "fat" PS3 then you'd be an idiot for trading in.
"Sales of the PS3 Slim in Japan have hit record levels, with the console selling 150,000 units in four days, 50% more units than the Xbox 360 sold in the entirety of the 2009 financial year."
2009? Why are you counting 2009, it's the Xbox's original release year you should be counting. Flamebait, Artefact. Nice try though.
*I don't own any console, PC FTW."
WOW! WHAT SPIN!
I think you need to start checking whether there is a serious problem there.
Whats the point of getting something new while your old set is still alive and kicking?
Minus the failure rates, space saving freaks and those who wants another PS3 (for whatever reason). I think only those with an American pay check could afford it? Or maybe those with an American mentality as well.
If that is the case, Sony would be laughing their way to the back pointing their middle fingers at MS.
Maybe that's how you did your sums.
I only had xbox for lost odyssey, than sold it to my friend and bout a ps3 slim... from a handful of people i know there is a good bit of new owners.
Finally people realised that the PS3 is superior to the GayRingofFaggotry.
Took them long enough. ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
RRoD= an issue which, at best, is minimal but the media helped to make it seem like all 360 owners were doomed. The PS3 is still overpriced and won't beat the 360. Graphics with bells and whistles doesn't make a winning console, games and a community do.
"...50% more units than the Xbox 360..."
nuff said, with this overpowering amounts of people the community will get a real boost and beat the gaybox one.
Jeez, it's douchebags like the people in this reply tree that saddens me. You didn't make the fucking video game systems, stop acting like a bunch of fantards. They're video game systems! They're not the holy grail or the meaning of the universe, stop getting elitist over everything. Each system has its perks and faults. For instance, the PS3 is a slow as shit Blueray machine.
They see me trolling...
*gaybox* made me rolf.
They hating...
360 = exclusive games, community, voiced chat online, better multi plat games (when released on same date). Cheaper pads (if bought wireless), cheaper games and bigger game selection.
PS3 = exclusive games, better multi plat (on a few games like tales of vesperia and NGS2), free online, free wi-fi and blue ray.
How can any real gamer not want both? I mean this is a japanese focused site and yet the 360 has the japanese games so what do the Sony fanboys play all day??? Socom,????? Warhawk???? Uncharted???
Seriously there's Disgaea 3, Demons souls, MGS4, Valkyria chronicles and then not much else. Naruto game
360 has Lost odyssey, Infinite undiscovery, Last remnant, Blue dragon, Dead or alive 4, 2 Naruto games, Ace combat 6, Star ocean 4, Dead rising, Lost planet, loads of SHMUPS and stuff like Rumble roses etc.
And then you can play tales of vesperia and Ninja gaiden 2 NOW.
I play all 3 so I get my fix. I've been playing Fire emblem, Lost odyssey, Demons souls, smash bros, Okami, Last remnant, Tales of vesperia, Star ocean 4, Valkyria chronicles and more but what do you lonely fags play?
Everything that remotely interests me on the Xbox is also on the PC, that leaves Halo, Gears 2 etc left. They suck and you'd only praise them if you were a kid, havn't played many games or are a fanboy.
Have to agree with the anon above.
All titles I'd consider interesting on the XBox I can already buy for my PC.
The PS3 is the only console (well, if you discount the DS. <.<) that has exclusives I'd actually want.
Do note that I do not own either console yet, so I'm actually just stating my observations. I'm not in either camp.
(Though, do note that free online on PS3 versus paid subscription on XBox360 is also a huge factor for me.)
Well you must not be much of a gamer to be so blinkered as to what's available. There's more stuff on 360 than any other console and since you only looked at the FPS (which I pointed out fighting and RPG too) I'm guessing your back to being the Socom / KZ2 and Uncharted guy I pointed out. Not much to play if you stick to a few consoles and only a few genre man. Other than the odd FPS and RTS there's not much on 360 that's exclusive and on PC too (like DOA 4, Naruto games, Halo 3, Gears 2, Infinite undiscovery, Last remnant, Star ocean 4, Too human, Perfect dark, Banjo, Viva pinata, Fable 2, Blue dragon, Kingdom under fire circle of doom etc)
I can accept you might have a PS3 and PC so there's not a big enough reason to get a 360 (unless you want RPG) but the point is just that all the consoles are good, these fanboys are dumb and there the ones missing out.
While I agree that games make the console. The definition of quality is dependent on the individual. Personally I prefer the games and online community of the PS3 more than the 360. Does that mean I write the 360 off as a console? No, it also has it's own quality software, which I enjoy.
As for the RROD, it was a serious issue, an a foreseeable one. They expected to take one of the hottest running processors availible at the time, the IBM 970FX (Or as it's known, the Apple Macintosh G5 processor), over clock it and stick it in a console. In a G5 tower, dual cores running at 2.6 Ghz needed a massive heatsink, multiple intake outtake fans all in what is essentially a wind tunnel. In the 360 it was put near the video card, with a small heat sink and only a weaker outtake fan array. This led to the overheating and component break down due to the rapid expansion caused by the heating.
On models using the 90nm 970 triple cores the chances of failure after moderate use is reported at 60%, while most likely all in use units will probably experience failure based on thermal dynamics alone sooner or later. The problem is still existent in 65nm to a lesser extent and minimal in 45nm machines.
So while the 360 is still a good console, it's a horrible failure at electronic engineering that I would rate at the level of someone who just tried to put together a gaming PC together for the first time with no prior training or a clue.
Thanks for explaination. I have always been wondering what exactly was the cause of RROD.
I guess for people who buy a 360 in countries that has poor warranty support...the sensible thing to do would be to take it apart and install the hardwares into a good case with lots of fans and good airflow or make a custom case for the 360 hardwares instead of use the crappy box exterior provided by Microsoft?
Well, I'll be damned... That is actually a good idea!
No, really!
if you're doing that shouldn't you just assemble a PC for cheaper? places with bad warranties also seem to be the place for cheap PC parts...
If people got the knowledge on how to set up/program PC hardwares to run them as a 360...sure, by all mean do that. But I doubt it would be that simple...otherwise all the PC DIY people would had built themselves a "PC 360" already instead of feeding their cash to Microsoft...
Overpriced my Ass! they're both $299 now, and the PS3 has a Blu-ray player(Worth an extra $50+). Also, you have to take into account the cost of Xbox live.
I wonder if Microsoft will make Xbox-live free now..
Why should they? Having a cost really didn't make their large install base jump over to the PS3's free alternative when it came out...
Let's face it, some people won't pay to play online and others will, those who do aren't compelled to switch over and save "$60" a year...
Xbox 360 = The only American and patriotic electronic console every American should purchase.
It RRODs on you, scratches your discs, gives you an E74 WTFOMGBBQ headache. It only does everything. Even burn down your house! 3 Years Warranty even!
Made by Americans. Built for Americans. Like American cars.
Don't order french fries! Order Freedom Fries! It's the only patriotic thing to do.
Get your Xbox 360 today with a side order of freedom fries! If you call now and within the next 10 minutes, we'll even throw in a free cardboard coffin for when you need to ship it in for repairs! Hurry! Supplies are limited!
That is the current problem not only the PS3 is facing. "New generation" gamers who have no privilege in playing DOS era games have no idea what "content" means for games. The only idea they know or pretend to know about games is "The better the graphics the better then game."
Chew on that line and start asking those brats out there.
I am not far off.
Apparently, its the 360 with bells and whistles not the PS3. The PS3 only has a superior cell processor to talk about and no programmer knows how to use it.
yes, the global battle will be much more interesting...
Second post and its already trolling Xbox360.
The global battle is a joke. X-360s numbers are highly inflated by the dead machines that needed to be replaced, so the number of ACTUALLY owners is much lower. The PS3 numbers will also be inflated because many will buy a slim to replace their fat. So, nobody really knows how many X-360 and PS3 owners there really are. A.K.A. stupid fanboy wars.
If the old fat PS3's are still working, then they will be either sold to friends, or sold to gamestop to be resold at lower prices, increasing Sony's install base after many of the Slim purchases. The Sony fanboys are actually doing a good job with this latest obsession. Even if half the Fanboys keep both consoles, the increased user base from the others will result in more PS3 games being bought, which will result in developers having an easier time choosing the PS3, or at least having less 360 exclusives.
Man what a spin! You seriously think people will purchase those used FATS? especially fats that don't have PS2 bc?
SPIN SPIN!
In that case, 30-54% RROD and let's say half of that percentage went off to get a 2nd or 3rd 360 because their warranty went out or because they wanted to have a backup just in case it RRODs.
The potential PS3 buyers are likely to have a PS2 already or they had made the mistake to get the retro Xbox (which is good killer litter).
shut your mouth, ps2 sure as hell couldn't run linux, so in my book other than game library the xbox had more utility than the ps2 but k let your xenophobia cloud a good piece of engineering because you hate america thx anyway
Dude, I don't know many people that will spend $300 for a little more shelf space and a bigger HD.
I unfortunately do... My friend who is a manager at a local GameStop has witnessed a huge increase of those who want to "swap" their systems and pay the difference...
The reality is, your friends have brains in their heads... You honestly expect the majority to do the same?
Apparently the customer is smart.
ALL HAIL XBOX 360
just because im for anarchism.
i'm typing this whilst looking at the icon for hatsune mikus pantsu article, don't mind the failure for not caring about the flamewars.
The Wii kicks the Shit out of that.. Ha ha..
And collects it in the process.
Nyoron~
Well I'd say this gives the PS3 some significant momentum in the Japanese market at least. Looks like Sony hit that sweet spot in pricing that they needed. Hopefully we can get some more RPGs on the system soon.
Just like what happened at MGS5 release, it will go back to selling under 10k after first month or so.
BIG difference between a good game selling a system, and said system suddenly becoming much cheaper. With a an upgraded harddrive no less.
Wow, what a great marketing scheme. It's literally the same console as the un-slimmed version except for about a defrag's worth of additional power (not much at all), and it sells this big in comparison to it's first version. It's not even that much a trimmed version even! Just a redesign! Such is the world of capitalism though, so I'm not complaining. I love both the X360 and The PS3, but I think I'll just stick with the X360 for now, as I'm not as rich as Sony would like me to be. Luckily, mine has lasted over a year and a half before having to be repaired. I'll switch to the Wii if it breaks anymore often though.
I live in a third world country and the PS3 is the number one current gen console here (of course the PS2 still kicks everyones ass). This is despite being the most expensive console and with full price original games, while the Wii and Xbox 360 have been cracked with modded consoles and pirated games aplenty. There is no official warranty from either Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo here.
It's more that a purchase means more to poorer people to get their money's worth, and having no warranty they dare not spend an entire month's worth of salary (e.g. $250-$300 equivalent for each console hovers around the same price, the Arcade at the 250 point) on a crappy machine.
Don't forget game prices are inflated in these parts, with piracy being the cheap choice with the "buy, play, trash after 6 months" consoles.
Dealing with the ps3 (originals only) we actually pay more than what most gamers in other parts of the world are accustomed to due to parallel imports.
looks like ps3 well be getting a lot more games soon.
Developers are cowards, so we can only hope this gives them enough "confidence" to make more games on PS3.
They only cares whether money goes into their pocket or not. That explains some of the hopping here and there.
they hatin
The PS3 selling well in Japan doesn't mean much to the rest of the world, its all ready a given that it would sell well in Japan after all.
Fucking GAY ad, oh yeah, I forgot PS3 users are indeed GAY.
hmm..i dont know..im feeling pretty straight
Originally I was going to say something in the 360's defense(I enjoy playing it alot), but the I said fuck it ima go play Little Big Planet(Easily one of the greatest games ever)
Lame insult is true
Stupid game console maniacs have trouble comprehending the meaning of statistics.
Japanese obsessively buy anything which is shiny and new.
Let's see the Slim sales figures 6 months from now. That's when a real story can be told.
Xbox is been there, has been, and will ever will be a FAILURE
PS3 Slim, the superior console.
Not for RRoD 360 butthurt faggots.
waiting to see what the bug ratio is...
impatiently i might add.
Japanese are XENOPHOBIC, they don't like anything that isn't form Japan, therefore it isn't shocking when the PS3 dominates 360, overall 360 still has and edge over PS3 world wide by about 5-6 million consoles.
yeah, xbots are racist.
this is why people dont like the 360. lol
It's main advantage (both in sales, install base, and correspondingly influencing developers to make games for it) has been it's price vs the PS3. With that gone, and the PS3 being the superior hardware, we shall see how long that lasts.
PS3 has lackluster software HUD wise. It also sports the same type of graphics card just a different manufacturer, well same type performance wise. It also restricts 256MB of RAM for the CPU and 256MB for the GPU where the 360 allows the developer to choose how to allocate the 512MB it comes with.
If you know (and truly know) hardware, the PS3 is only superior CPU wise, but that hasn't translated too well past dual core support in PC games, which is why development for the PS3 (true exclusive I am going to milk the power out of the PS3 development) costs so much and takes so much time.
I love both systems, I have them both, but I know my shit. Also PS3 Slim vs 360 sales in Japan? Come on, it's going to rape the 360 there, US system adoption is low there, it's really the first time they had a decent US choice and with lackluster software support of course adoption rates suck. Where we in the US are use to Japanese systems and like games from both regions...
I say, see how well it does here in 6 months, since the larger install base is in the US. If it is raping the 360 by then, then Sony has regained a lot of the ground THEY lost. Bet you they will procrastinate on the HUD updates when they do...
Indeed. They're so Xenophobic, in fact, that they'll never allow McDonalds all over the place.
ohwait.
Americans tend toward Xenophobia as well. Explains 360's American dominance.
Actually from an economist stand point, realistically the sales figures for 360s are not accurate as they do not account for re-buys due to failure and malfunctions world wide. alot of people perfer or cannot send in their systems for various reasons so whatever the sales figures are cannot in good sense be trusted. Its like Gamestop false profit reports, They reduced workable hours to make it appear as Gamestop turns a bigger profit, thus making it seem as its a great investment in a weak economy. It still is but still shady number manipulation makes things seem better that they really are.
Can't wait for the numbers for PS3 sales in the USA, all those trade in for slimmer version sales that hardcore Sony logic failing fans (not like the 360 doesn't have enough of them either) will come in running and screaming saying ZOMG Sony is totally teh best and totally 100% accurate sales numbers dat donut reflect anythingz....
$_$
I like how they lowered the pants of the guy in the PS3 Slim ad photo so they're barely above his pubes to make the Slim look slimmer. I like it a lot.
I just love the huurf-duurf tone of these articles.
Thanks for explaination. I always been wondering what exactly was the cause of RROD.
I guess for people who buy a 360 in countries that has poor warranty support...the sensible thing to do would be to take it apart and install the hardwares into a good case with lots of fans and good airflow or make a custom case for the 360 hardwares instead of use the crappy box exterior provided by Microsoft?
The 360 failures are due to the nvidia GPU's failing because of thermal stress. Nvidia made some mistakes with the bump materials and other chip substrate layer materials and as a result the GPU's fail when subjected to thermal stress (cold to hot to cold again). The failures usually are due to cracks in the bumps or substrate. The 360's get really hot so it's no wonder they fail as often as they do. This problem also affects laptops (like the mac book pro) and desktop machines (to a much lesser degree).
Nvidia publicly admitted the problem in their 8K filing and MS took over 1.2 billion in funds and set them aside to fix the problem.
The X360 does not use anything made by nVidia, at best they use an IBM CPU and a nVidia GPU but I don't know who is making its RAM.
Wow. I'd always wondered the specifics. Much thanks for this post.
Ehhhhh Nvdia.... Dude the GPU is ATI! the real problem its the lack of quality and respect to the consumer.... i prefer to buy a expensive console that last 10 Sony or nintendo than buying a console for 1-3 years and i mean it hurt MS!
a lot!
Quick, someone tell me 10 PS3 exclusives coming out! inb4 fail games.
Well, there's... um... FFXIII... oh that's on the 360 too... and um... GT5, if they ever release it... oh wait, Forza 3 is out next month... um...
Sackboy!! !YOU GET SACKBOY LOL ISNT IT KAWAII
Shouldn't you be playing a fps or baaaaawwwwing about the Tales of Vesperia upgrade we got?
"We got?"
Are you one of those 10 guys that are any fluent at all in moonspeak?
Heavy Rain, Katamari Forever, Last Guardian, FF Versus XIII, God of War III, New Shin Megami Tensei (remoured but very likely), Agent, Uncharted 2 so that's 8 off the top of my head that look to be very high quality exclusives I could find more if I went looking.
However the PS3 already has it's exclusives that make it more than worth buying, those being Valkyria Chronicles and LBP. VC is possibly one of the best games to come out in a long while on anything.
''VC is possibly one of the best games to come out in a long while on anything.''
Saddest thing I've ever heard.
Demon Souls
Atelier Rorona
L.A. Noire
Heavy Rain
MAG
ModNation Racers
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
White Knight Chronicles
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Not to mention:
Valkyria Chronicles
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Yakuza 3
PixelJunk Eden
PixelJunk Monsters
Killzone 2
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Fat Princess
You sir, Fail!
sales in japan...chuckle :3
Anon: "sales in japan...chuckle :3 "
Quoted in order to provide everyone here with a double reality check.
You obviously didn't read any articles on the reasons for the PS3 being priced the way it was, nor how Sony stood to lose quite a bit of money selling it at the price they did.
Yea, good games have been known to keep a system alive or revive it. HALO 2 (not that I liked it much) on the original XBOX...
Upgraded my ass, no PS2 support AT ALL. You are getting less for your money and much cheaper? The 360 has seen more price drops in the last few years...
Face it, it didn't make the 360 kill the Wii, it won't make the PS3 kill the 360. Each company put themselves in their respective spots and it will take Keanu Reeves destroying the Matrix to change the fate each company was dealt...
Great exclusives... Main reason I still keep my George Foremen edition PS3 around, despite it only seeing use when such titles have released..
TARDBOX SUCK.
GAYSTATION SUCK TEH MOAR.
Lol that was funny.
and people say the community on psn is better than the xboxs... honestly its all the same 12 year fanboys on either side... seriously your parents shouldnt have bought you the stupid thing.
This is actually considered just a normal sales spike at the moment, due to the number of people waiting for years for a price drop due to rumours, a cheap blu-ray player or those who must always buy the latest gadget released. The true statistics is during Christmas to determine properly if the console is a success or not.
Thanks for attempting to provide a sane comment to this seriously misleading news, Anon.
I don`t care about sells in Japan
HADOKEN!
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware
and
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=51TYZYXYRWUZUQSNDLSCKHA?articleID=208403010
The PS3 Slim price in my country is $455...darn I'll have to wait some more time to get one.
Pc still owns only system to run over 1080p resolutions bitches. I love my 360 and ps3 but games cant even go real 1080p only bs 1080. Console companies should be working on the next gen consoles and get these weak ass consoles off the market and bring in real HD gaming cause playing a game on pc then switching to a console game makes you want to laugh at how horrible they really are.
Lols. True enough.
Everytime someone blares to me at how AWESOME their NEW 1080p AWESOME console graphics are, I usually counter with "Well, I've been playing at 2560x1600 with -good- graphics for three years. Beat that.".
How so? PS3 is PS3.
I'm sure comparing the release of the Slim to the release of the newest XBox360 Revision (whichever that is) would be even less fair.
only reason xbox sold more is becuz it is chipped. if ps3 is chipped i think sales will pass xbox in half or 1 years
Either that, or being at a generally higher price point worldwide, and having overall inferior multiplatform releases, amirite?
...PS3 Fanboys....seriously...
I have read many PS3 / XBOX 360 Articles here now and it always says Xbox breaks all the time and such...
Well, I have a Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 ...I can enjoy all those consoles and dont say one is superior.
What you do on this site is "journalism" ...even though a bit different. But, still...keep your thoughts to yourself and stop trying to get yor point of view to other people.
I may not wholly agree with Arte's opinion (or at all), but I don't think it'd be a necessarily good thing for him to post news in a supposedly objective light. It's better for people posting news that they do so in their own ways and with their own style.
Now, if you want to somewhat "balance" his bias, you can always check out UK:RESISTANCE. :D
Now the sales will be interesting, the PS3 having the same price as the 360, and it's a Blu-ray player with wifi even more. Tsk tsk tsk :P
Actually, the Xbox 360 is still 100 bucks below the PS3, and 50 below the Wii.
I know most informed people don't give a crap about the Arcade SKU and tend to "phase it out", mentally speaking, but I'm sure it's been the most successful one for Microsoft.
Oh, and don't forget the Go Pro one, also some 50 bucks below the PS3 and going right against the Wii.
Piracy is so easy on the 360. Anyone could do it. You think MS really gives a hoot about preventing piracy on their system? It's what actually sells the damn thing.
Try to go into an online match of whatever game with a flashed console, wiseass.
There are 2 things people have been waiting on to get a PS3: A price drop: done. And, God of War 3: next March. I expect a surge in system sales when GOW3 drops.
360 in japan LOL
Arte: "just how many of those units are still working is open to question…"
I'll answer you question: all of them. As long as the lazy-ass consumer makes the most of its rights and 3-year guarantee, there's no reason not to either have his machine up and working, or getting a brand new one.
Also, this sales burst is sure to be short-lived, with perhaps a second wave thanks to Final Fantasy XIII's release... and nothing more. Sony has next to nothing to offer on both America (hey, biggest and most important market here!) and Europe (by the time Gran Turismo 5 shows up I'm almost sure Turn 10 will already be working on the fourth Forza Motorsport title), so... no, not really, the PlayStation 3 is clearly our brand new seventh generation era loser, with the not-so-sure-to-work-LOL-RRODDDDDDD Xbox 360 the overall global winner. We are now four years into this generation, you can almost consider it done with.
Actually, I think LittleBigPlanet being considered any good at all is much sadder. Valkyria Chronicles is at least a serious, true game.
LOL360
I think you need to do a background check on this.
Have you heard what American paychecks are the fattest? Plus welfare?
Talk about high wages in Asia, people will go wow. Talk about welfare and people would think you're nuts.
Do the RROD re-buys even count? This is ridiculous....
You mean those refurbished units? They figure as new on Gamestop, so maybe yeah, they count.
The real question is........Would Solid Snake buy a ps3 at $299??
Just curious guys, but you keep linking to the Game Informer poll of 5000 people for your 54% number, but will you ever link to the independent warranty companies' research that brought the number down to 23%? Here, I'll help with a link: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360-red-ring-of-death-abating/
Just asking really.
I had to pickup a new HD at best buy the other day and saw people buying xbox 360's along with new dvd burners and dual layered disks.
I "wonder" what they're going to do.
Wake the f up..