Full Metal Alchemist Ratings Collapse
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Sep 1, 2009 18:27 JST
- Tags: Full Metal Alchemist, Production Controversy, Remakes, TBS, TV
Mustachio anime Full Metal Alchemist’s remake has attracted much unwelcome attention with the release of TV ratings which show a collapse in ratings, especially compared to the much loved but totally divergent original:
The original maintained an average of 6% throughout its 50 episodes. The remake on the other hand manages an average of a mere 3.3%, and falling fast, less than half way through.
There are rumours of the show being moved to a more favourable timeslot, not that there is any real indication that this would rescue it…
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This is actually good news! When ratings slip, studios find new ways to cram in fan service. Now they have a chance to make up for the lousy job they did with Lust.
wait for it, guis. this is gonna be worth it in the long wrong. fans of the manga at attention!
Poor rating has nothing to do with the story but more with the time slot. Code Geass R2 flopped. Gundam 00 S2 also flopped. Sunday 5pm slot is just not good for anime. There is just much more other things to do outdoors at that time slot than stay home and watch anime. I am not sure why TBS think it would work in the first place. Switch it back to midnight and the ratings should rise again. I followed the manga very closely. And I actually thought the first show was brilliant the way it deviates from the manga(except that they killed Scar...). The second show has a lot more going on but sometimes I find the humors take away the seriousness of the show. Other than that I like how they stay true to the manga plot so far. And they got Miyano Mamoru to voice Ling Yao. I just hope the ending won't disappoint.
gundam s2 and code geass r2 didn't flop due to the timeslot. their plots sucked because the producers were too money-minded and just wanted to make more model kits.
code geass 1 was epic. the first few episodes of r2 was good, and then it flopped.
gundam 00 started off epic, then became decent and started failing the moment the 3 new gundams were introduced.
gundam s2 and code geass r2 didn't flop due to the timeslot. their plots sucked because the producers were too money-minded and just wanted to make more model kits.
code geass 1 was epic. the first few episodes of r2 was good, and then it flopped.
gundam 00 started of epic, then became decent and started failing the moment the 3 new gundams were introduced.
I liek this one much more, its stays true to the manga and i just think its much better than the other anime.
I just hope this won't reduce the number of episodes planned, at least it has results which can be compared to other popular animes.
This version is soo much better than the first series, the plot in the manga is much more interesting, well developed and more original, while in the first series there were several moments that I may say that I hate ( like equivalent trade is completely false and the energy come from another dimension ).
I won't say those who prefer the first series are stupid but I just can't understand them, maybe once they see all the episodes from this series or the manga they may change their idea.
first few episodes were extremly similar but has changed and is much better. i seen the first one as well. it is almost entirley different and better plot as well
The original FMA had moments of pure awesome (mostly the shocker moments where somethign goes horribly wrong for the sake or irony), but the majority of the series was dull and repetitive at its best and unwatchable shit at its worst. I got through the entirety of the series, somehow, but I could never stomach the repeats, especially after having seen the shocker moments once before and knowing they are coming. The idea of doing it all again with subtle variations is my idea of torture, and even if the series goes a different direction at the tail end, that will be as uninteresting as the rest of the series and the series it was remade from.
Jasper yet again:
It's already veered off very, VERY differently from the first anime and there's not a lick of similarity between the two at even the halfway point.
Look at it this way: The first series was boring, meaninglessly angsty schlock disguised in the trappings of the Dramatic genre. The second series is a no-holds-barred adventure where the stakes get high and the action with it, mixed in with a bit of politics and espionage for the State Military side of the story.
In the first series, nothing really happens and everything returns to a rather drab status quo. Most of those "shockers" either came from the manga or were pulled out of thin air due to a lack of ideas on the writers' part. In the second series, the heroes secretly organize a rebellion to overthrow the corrupt State government and fight to save the entire nation-state of Amestris from a fate worse than death (much worse, in fact). The shocker? Unlike the first anime, they actually make it happen. And the Rebellion Arc is hands down the most badass story the entire FMA franchise has ever told.
"Subtle variations" my ass, this what Fullmetal Alchemist is supposed to be.
A super deformed kiddy show with unfunny comedic moments, shit pacing, and less interesting story structure? Yeah that's right
Jasper again:
Well the comedic timing in the manga's spot on, and all I can say is that Bones ought to polish up on that.
The first series also had shit pacing with a second half that bored people to tears while simultaneously reducing the entire plot and all potential character development to irrelevance.
If having a "less interesting story structure" means having a more interesting actual story then so be it. There's nothing wrong with being straightfoward in one's storytelling if the alternative is meaningless emo-babble.
I don't get it. Hagaren did very well and this new one is just as good if not better and it has poor ratings? It must be the timeslot.
And to those bitching about the first dozen episodes being similar:
I guess none of you should bother watching the vastly superior Hellsing Ultimate since the first few episodes of the old TV series are so similar to the first couple of OVAs.
...you people make me sick.
This is very disappointing, this one is not perfect but it's still a thousand times better than the first, cracktastic one. I hope the ratings are enough to avoid getting cancelled, but even if they cut it short, the manga sells really well and it's fucking awesome and that's more than enough to make me happy.
FMA was probably the only time I ever fell asleep reading a manga. Of course, it doesn't fall into my particular vein of interest (see shounen action), and I was coerced into reading it by a preternaturally meddlesome friend.
The remake is good.
It's just that everybody is stupid not to watch it.You just need to know which episode to start watching from.
It's clear that everybody who said they like the 1st better are morons who have never compared the first series with the original source material.I have and the original is way better.Ignorance is not an excuse for FAIL.
Because it's more true to the manga, it doesn't mean it's actually better.
Manga and anime are two seperate things, I guess the director of the first series realized this more then this one.
Wait till we hit the 40s or late 30s in the episode count and I can almost gurantee alot of people complaing are going to be shutting up.
So everyone who liked the first seies better is an idiot for not liking Brotherhood? Kid how old are you? Last time I checked people have different tastes in mind and ALOT was juts put off by ALOT of aspects in Brotherhood.
waitwhat,, brotherhood is awsome compared to the old one!
I'm enjoying it, on episode 21 already. I loved the 1st one and im not at all bored with the second one. Geat show IMO
narrow headed people -_-
appreciate it, its the original.
Narrowheaded person,
appreciate the first series, it was better.
Better than this anime, maybe. Better than the manga? no fucking way.
In the last few episodes Brotherhood became better than the old one. Japanese viewers are idiots.
It's tiresome seeing people view the last one as the original. Because it is NOT. The manga IS the original and it aint the same story too. (Again with the same explanation. Ugh)
And if the story's so predictable, then I dare someone who hasn't read the manga to tell me who the main villain really is and what he's planning.
If you get it wrong
You=EPIC FAIL.
Shit series from the start glad people realize it by now.
Well it's shounen, what did you expect?
its the same shit like endless eight.
the same story all over again.
and its inferior to the original one.
This is the original one.
I wonder why the ratings are so poor? The remake is really good, and i really enjoy it than the previous one.
At least they didn't drag the story this time round, the anime is moving at a really fast phase!
ja i dont know how you have those grafic, but i think taht its flase because FMa shintetsu is the best anime of the world... stupids!!
Kid friendly involves cute ishvalan little girls getting shot in the head and baddass characters get cut in half.
Kid friendly and sunshiney happy, huh?
Riiiiiight.
Manga>Brotherhood>FMA1.
BELIEVE IT.
There's a reason the first Opening song is called Again.
the new anime is actually very good and the story line is just as good as the original but i just dont like the drawings it ruins the show drastically, it makes it too kid friendly and such
If you've read the manga, you know what to expect storywise.
i mean the character Mei, she just pops up, no explanation on how she got there, or Yoki. They just both APPEARED in the story and the show expects the audience to know that.
Awesome fight scenes like Lan Fan fighting Envy and kicking his ass was left out
now i know the flashback episodes were left out cause as fans we should know what happened, but they put a couple in anyway, but it just seems more of another mess of an anime than a remake, thought it does follow the manga more closely than the first series
But the first series had a charm to it and a very deep and emotional plot. In the new series, we don't feel that cause we KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.
Every scene is like the reboot trying to tell the fan "Hey remember this in the manga?!"
Imo it really gets better when it starts to run on it's own, storywise and animation wise but that doesn't happen till around episode 13+
Overall, the hearing on Gundam 00 tb was not good ... as compared to the Gundam Seed for example was much lower than expected (Even Sunrise investing more in Gundam 00). Of G00 was just a little more about the Code Geass that tb had poor ratings (but incredible sales of DVD / BD), what happens in reality is that this time it came on TBS is suffering from falls ... But in fact the same as valley is the sales of DVD / BD, where Otakus will buy their favorite animals to stay in the collection (and incredibly some buy more than 1 copy oyarzunsergio).
No geral, a audiência de Gundam 00 tb não foi boa… se comparar com a de Gundam Seed por exemplo ficou muito abaixo do esperado (Mesmo a Sunrise investindo mais em Gundam 00). De G00 foi apenas um pouco melhor da de Code Geass que tb tinha audiência baixa (mas vendas incríveis de DVD/BD), o que acontece na real é que nesse horário na TBS veio mesmo é sofrendo de quedas… Mas na verdade mesmo o que vale é as vendas de DVD/BD, onde os Otakus vão comprar os seus animes preferidos para ficar na coleção (E inacreditavelmente alguns compram mais de 1 cópia o_Ox).
Gotta keep up with the series before judging it.
Brotherhood follows the manga much more closely than the first series.
That means that the story is much different.
They just need to put out an ad that says there's new content with the latest episodes or something.
what are you guys talking about? it has been different than the first series since like episode 10. you guys are crazy. it has been great.
"what are you guys talking about? it has been different than the first series since like episode 10. you guys are crazy. it has been great."
You have NO memory !
Actually, the episodes after Greed's death are completely different. It's a new story for me..and its really good.
I think the new one is better, try watching it around greed's death..its different. It's not just a remake, it has a new storyline.
the viewers probably got tired of the first few episodes because its pretty much the same as the old one.
Is only natural, this shit is just a complete REPRISE !
False statement, nothing to see here folks.
It IS new, after episode 12
I blame the torrent!!
Funny, I've been enjoying the show more as it goes on.
But what was with the spike on episode 9?
Maybe something like:
"Did you hear? There is a new FMA anime come one let's watch it tonight"
After episode 9 it went like this:
"New FMA? MEH?"
the left figure is percentage, the below is number of episodes......??