Aso: “Poor People Shouldn’t Marry”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Aug 24, 2009 07:37 JST
- Tags: Demographics, Marriage, Money, Politics, Relationships, Taro Aso
Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso has told the nation’s youth that they shouldn’t marry if they have no money, and that they can’t expect any respect from their partner if they have no money.
In remarks to a gathering of students, he had this to say about marriage at a (relatively) young age, in response to the question “Many young people can’t afford to get married, isn’t this contributing to the low birth rate?”:
“If you have no money it is best not to marry. I feel it’d be pretty hard to get any respect as a marriage partner if you have no income.”
Japanese demographers predict a population collapse if another generation puts off having children.
Aso is famous for putting his foot in his mouth unusually often even for one of Japan’s worthless politicians, but in this case his comments appear quite deliberate.
For a man who is supposed to be tackling the issue of Japan’s ongoing demographic collapse, his words certainly seem ill considered…
Via 47news.
Of course, no Japanese woman would ever marry a poor man so perhaps the issue is moot.
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I think his comment would have been more reasonable if he said something like, "Before one marries, one must make financial preparations, i.e. save up."
Aso's remark was just plain stupid and offensive to those who are not materially well-off. I mean, just because a person is poor, doesn't mean they are not worth people's respect.
It's just ridiculous how this Aso-baka is the PM of such a great country.
save up for what? the money will all go under the wife's control anyway...
Only if you are a stupid male without balls that allows her that. Guess what a marriage contract is for...
As daz might have said:“Vicious, pre-nups aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.”
good for him. seeing as he comes from a wealthy family. maybe he should start out a harem.
the japanese have gotten too materialistic...
whats with all the woman bashing?
you know theres something called a prenup. if you choose to leave the contract a free for all financial party. that was your option.
whos the one carrying the child, and taking care of it?
who the one that has to visit a doctor regularly.
if you cant afford to take responsibility for that changes that you make to someone elses life. then who would be stupid enough to sign that marriage contract with you.
Vicious, pre-nups aren't worth the paper they're printed on. The fantasy where you can have a contract that says "you leave with what you came with" is just that...a fantasy....a pre-nup like that can be defeated in a heartbeat. The only pre-nups that stand up are ones that give the poor partner (read: wife) a fair recompense for time put in....well what's the point of the prenup if you have to pay? The bottom line is that no one deserves to be paid merely for being in a relationship and that's what divorce settlement truly is....a form of prostitution....at the end of a marriage the man must now go and pay for the sex he had. It would be cheaper to get a hooker once a week (and more honest)
And as for children, carrying and bearing them is the natural state for a woman...their bodies are specifically made to do this. Blame nature for their lot in life, having to bear children, but asking to be paid for something you were made to do is weak...what's next, you want to be paid to eat? And as for taking care of kids, why don't you compare youth crime statistics from now with those of say 100 years ago when men handled discipline in the home. If women call what they do in the home "taking care of the kids" then they're lying to themselves. What they're doing is taking care of themselves first and foremost.
"Vicious, pre-nups aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on."
True in the USA, Canada, etc.
Maybe they work better in Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
Yep, that's what's happening to AmeriKKKa too... Stupid laws, PC ones written by modern women out to destroy all men. Lots of people plain "Can't Afford" to marry, or if they can, they don't want to lose their lifestyle in a culture where the woman can and will divorce them for most of the money and what they'll earn and they'd better keep on earning or they'll be jailed and humiliated and then put back to work with not a nickel to spare.
So, people don't reproduce and the population starts to collapse and the old people who made the laws scream they want tax money to support them. They even punish the new young people by importing illegal immigrants to drive their wages down, but the illegals send all the tax money home and with lower wages, less taxes.
Like I'm saying, people, seasteading... Make one, make a dozen, make a hundred... go outside AmeriKKKa's territorial reach and work with other seasteaders on forming confederated nation-tribes and getting UN registered so AmeriKKKa can't attack openly. The UN's worse, but more ineffective and lousy, the worst they can do is limit "Trade" with countries your raft is going to be across the world from. You'll be able to buy and sell from "Mid-Range" trips (cruise ships, merchant ships, yachts) going through your area with near impunity to the nature of trade and freedom from taxation.
Wouldn't it be worth the effort, just so you can buy a woman from a "Human trafficking" operation or directly buy/grab one yourself since you don't have to go through customs? I'd like a cute, demure and obedient one to be a good bride and wife and I'd treat her nice, but breaking a feisty one could be a good source of an erection. It'd be an awesome BDSM fantasy made real seeing one of the uppity white bitches who seek to destroy all men being pirated from a cruise ship and given to the Samoan tribal adoptee. He'd be dunking her in water ala "Dawn Slave" or shocking her ala "Seek". "Are you a modern woman who seeks to destroy all men!?" - that'd sound cool in a Samoan accent!
And as long as they weren't treated unfairly, I think the cute brown girls would love her being broken... It's pretty likely one of them will remember her mother's face being nearly punched in when her father had to crawl and beg to keep his horrible low paying job as a waiter/cleaner, etc. when some white woman complained about him because he couldn't follow her English fast enough. Now, I won't be "Racist" just a misogynist sado pervert who's "Equal Opportunity"; It'd also be beyond sexy to see a young latina with nice oiled brown skin being put through some discomfort that doesn't kill or maim her but has her struggling and hollering for hours, like tying her spread eagled upright and using electricity, or having her sit on a wooden horse, etc...
But, of course, that's only if she's a bitch who seeks to destroy men. A cute demure one gets cuddled and loved! For my Hentai I still have trouble with "Dragon Pink" because the catgirl Pink is cute and demure, but she gets abused. Ditto for Dawn Slave though it's awesome art, because the rather ample cowish "Princess" doesn't need or deserve any pain. On the other hand "Seek" is awesome!!!
Aiko, What an ugly korean you are. Return your home with Princess Masako.
But Japanese people marry when they're young.
He didn't say poor people shouldn't marry, he said young people who are poor shouldn't marry. Theres a huge difference.
People who are poor in spirit shouldn't marry either.
But it is better to marry than burn.
And it is better to have citizens who are ethnically loyal than immigrants.
I guess some people really have a goal to strive for perfection to do something to make a country work well by saying it.
What the FACK boy.
If things go right we may expect the collapse, and then Japan paying us to marry and have children, and if they are not open to mixed races they will collapse anyway, so they'd better lemme have a japanese waifu (insert maniac laugh).
haahhh... so what..huh, its right for all people to get happinese. in this life u should to have a faith. believed, if u maried for the right thing(not for hurt u'r partner or othr thng)& have pure purpose on it. ull get the happines even with small income. just take gratefully of what u got & u will satisfied.
Considering how a majority of japan has ugly people, I'm going tohae to give a proper salute to this fine country of anime.
*salute!*
anime girls is ugly too.
quite moot indeed.
that's a place where they have or use definitions like freeter, NEET, or parasite single.
Nope.. Wrong person it seems.. ^^....
Isn't he is already.
"Isn't he is already."
lol wut?
>_>.. I was talking about sucha theory with a friend a few days ago..
I doubt you are him because he is currently addicted to a MMO.. but seriously a part of me beginning to think he is you.. he writes like you as well.. >_>...
gurararara..?
That loli future empress and master is still at the table available.
Future Empress....too bad i cant marry her xD. To become a Seed factory for a new Nation. To be Harvested by Lolis. Bwahahaha. or beautiful japanese women. propogate those good genes >D
i is also addicted to a Aion Mmo o.o candy? I do not know thyself?
does he talk like that? xD
maybe Aso was rying to be sarcastic/
Now I'd just like to know what's the definition of 'not being poor" according to Japanese people...
I’d like to know what’s the definition of just ‘poor” according to them. Better yet. Are there ANY poor people in Japan?
over 60k in income = not poor
Shouldn't this be common sense? If you don't have money and can't afford to take care of a wife or kids, then don't get married or have kids. Simple.
Dont drag america into this. ever since divorce becme non religious, non political.
We can finally be as promiscious as ever. get married young make a few kids. divorce and then
1. Marry a 20 yr old, repeat every 10 years with another 20 something
till you're old. then marry your baby mama in the end. in order to pressure offspring to pay for you until you die.
it's a gold mine. Women can do it too.
We dont care about the money. Marriage = free pussy or free dick with moneys.
We get married on mobile churches for gods sakes :P
Even without this news in SanCom, from how I see the upcoming elections in Japan from an international news channel (forgot if it was CNN, Bloomberg or something else), with Taro's speech on why should he voted... He and his party is bound to lose... His speech was damn lame in a political standpoint... >_>
The opposition's speech wasn't that good either, but certainly better than Taro's...
In both, platforms are just lacking... >_<
If they can't get politicians who could actually do politics, they're economy would be going down the drain in no time... X_X
unless you own a company, are employed by a company, not an artist or any mumbo jumbo work like that...you are poor.
Even Loli's have thriving businesses
love motels get to leech off the undersgae industry
cell phone/telecom industry is booming.
otherwise you are quite poor
It's not as if he's saying anything controversial.
She's just the one who has the courage to say what everyone's thinking.
Every year thousands of young folk(I'll use this term although being one of them) Make the mistake of getting married before you're prepared: emotional, financial, etc. Hence why the divorce rate has skyrocketed. It's up to 54%..... in America.
You shouldn't be in any hurry to get married, play around the field, gain a bit of experience, be certain that you're fine with the fact that you will get little to no time alone from your partner once you're married.
I would agree with him, if you don't have the funds to support a family then don't get married.
it's called plastic bags tyvm.
xDDDDDDD i made myself laugh....i hope people dont use plastic bags.
but if i have thought it...then one of the 600 billion persons might have already done it. O_O
Rofl
Apparently Love doesn't exist in Japan... No wonder there suicide rate is so high. That's really sad.
you're a retard.
And you're just rude lol
Well duh. That's just common sense.
I don't think him saying that is a problem since japanese women won't marry a man that isn't rich anyway.
If you are poor you don't even have money to marry. If you have enaugh money to afford a marriage you aren't poor.
Bummer. :l
LOL is he a north-korean agent?
i'm not happy japan has this kind of person in the drivers seat, but the situation here (croatia) is at least a bit more bearable now i know we're not the only ones having idiots in office... and here, the government's latest genocidal plan (floating down the river with a bullet in the back is now outdatad) involves keeping nuclear waste in middle of the capital! duh!
He likely means this in as well a sense as he can. When he means marriage he's likely talking about having kids. The financial pros of marriage are obvious, but often the poor have statistically been known to foster more children than they can care for (the rich have fewer, generally speaking). Of course I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he's not a "ONLY THE RiCH SHOULD ENJOY MARRIAGE OR ANY SORT OF SEX ELL OH ELL"
And also, it's easy to rap on him for sounding like an asshole, but think about it from a personal perspective. If you can't provide for the one you love and protect them.. I know personally that's at the very least, a very hard decision to make, knowing that I won't be able to keep her or any potential children stable.
Then again, inb4 OMG TRULOVE ALWAYS FINDS A WAY, which, in certain ways I guess, is kinda true, but it also kinda isn't :/
Everybody grab a weapon and kill as many people as you can!!!
Lets end the world tonight!!!
(i am poor and lonely lets bring a sense of equality to the world for my years of fail)
this is very true in most parts (not all parts) of the united states and the UK
we should put poor people in walled camps
and then throw garbage at em
so true, that should apply to the rest of the world, go work you people and stop sacking people stupid companies.
I think he'd better say: "Poor people should marry rich people."
Perhaps I'm interpenetrating this differently from others.... but I think it's rather sage advice. People do themselves no service by marrying when there's not enough money between them to support both parties. It'll cause undue stress on the marriage and result in either divorce or lovelessness in a lot of cases.
As for supporting both parties, if it didn't seem to be a trend for the woman to stop working and pop out babies immediately (this is how I understand things to be in Japan. Please correct me if I am wrong.) it wouldn't be an issue as most working people can support themselves over all and a combining of finances can strengthen both parties, assuming neither side is wasteful.
both men and woman can be wasteful, and the parents of them. There was more prosperity for the older generations. Blame the banks, job losses and economy.
I blame the aliens, they want all the japanese women to themselves.
greedy...
I blame the chinese.
I've actually witnessed enough failed relationships due to lack of money to agree with this.
There is a small problem.
Men don't stay romantic forever.
A man who loses his virginity at 18 might be persuaded to marry and work hard for the rest of his life to support his kids.
A man who spends 20 years from 18 to 38 fapping and saving up his money won't suddenly decide to marry a 3D woman. He'll just keep fapping and spending money on porn; maybe he'll die broke.
No more babies = no more Japan.
Or the man who loses his virginity at 18 might become a deadbeat father that pimps his kids out for money. That's not really an argument.
The constraints of this medium do not lend themselves to formal debate-style arguments.
The point is that a man who fails to marry from 18 to 38 is almost always going to swear off marriage and children entirely.
A vast class of embittered, independent men with nothing to lose, no close friendships, and no investment in society spells violence against the rest of society.
"A man who loses his virginity at 18 might be persuaded to marry and work hard for the rest of his life to support his kids."
i'm still a virgin teen and im scarred of this idea.
Yeah, having babies you can't afford should only be done OUT of wedlock!
Marriage is designed for women to take men's money more efficiently in the first place. If they are poor, marriage is kinda useless, so he was right about it.
So, does Japan have a doomsday clock? Is it precipitously 5 minutes to midnight over there?
Does that mean us gaijin will inherit Japan?
Just made me think....so Gandhi won't be getting any respect because he was poor? Damn ^^
Remember that Gandhi was once a lawyer. His education is more than enough to garner respect.
No money no married
Fapping for evahhh!!!
only you!!! looser~
but you don need money if married with 2D gurl~~~ hahaha...
"Depends!~ If the girl you’re going to marry is Mio, expect to spend thousands on Mio-related products!
That said, that’s still way cheaper than getting married in real life. T_T"
She won't be only yours, you'll be sharing her with millions of other guys.
You can say that about real women too but instead of the millions of other Otakus, it'll probably be about 20 other guys.
Depends!~ If the girl you're going to marry is Mio, expect to spend thousands on Mio-related products!
That said, that's still way cheaper than getting married in real life. T_T
You can always draw with your shaky hands! Even though it ends up with an abnormality, it's still your child you take responsibility for it!
If nobody will make childs with 3d females anymore there won’t be any 2D females anymore too because nobody will be there for drawing them in the future.
Aso is right. Don't marry. He just forgot to add to impregnate as many women as possible.
Taro Aso and the LDP is going to lose, BIG TIME!
japan is going down with gold diggers, (poor)loser men, and xenophobia.
That is the bitter fate of all developed/developing countries..
My country could export some citizens if japan run out of young people
What is your country? : )
Japan is pretty xenophobic.
They might as well get started on a cloning project now, and avoid the rush.
So then 10 years from... there will hardly be any loli D:
People seem to be looking at Japan's demographic crisis as if there will be no more Japanese people two hundred years from now. I think this is the fault of a post-World War II world view that society, economy and technology can only grow, expand and proliferate. We're seeing the first examples of population decline in countries since the post-World War II baby boom, a period during which the global population tripled itself. I, for one, don't think we can only grow; we as a populace have our shrinking periods, too. For now, Japan and Europe are undergoing a population decline. This may easily happen for well over a century, but I'm more than certain they'll see a resurgence. And the places experiencing their own crests (India, Latin America, etc.) will eventually meet their subsequent troughs.
Hold up, wait a minute, Let me put some something in it. Just in the beginning of THIS decade, people were worried about a population overload. Now it's a population decline?
Japan and Europe (and eventually China) are experiencing a population decline. The rest of the world, however, isn't and is thus more than making up for the declining numbers in those two places. You'll note that I'm only repeating myself.
Actually it will take many hundreds of years till the world isn't overpopolated anymore. Just because of a increase of people nobody will die out. Besides that less people meen more money for everybody.
"Actually it will take many hundreds of years till the world isn’t overpopolated anymore. Just because of a increase of people nobody will die out. Besides that less people meen more money for everybody."
Wrong!
Population is shrinking in the technologically advanced countries, which means that the Third World will sink deeper into starvation and disease as the First World depopulates.
The economy can crash due to overpopulation or underpopulation.
Japan is not going to say, "We have only one million people and the same amount of gold, so we're going to share our gold with Congo." No, Japan is going to say, "We lack people, so we have to rely on high-tech bombs more than before."
Underpopulation => more war, more suffering, more disease, more pain.
Ayu Jochuu: you would probably be bored by a long list of URLs to scientific papers, so if you care about this issue, get a science or engineering major to research it for you. While you're waiting you can watch the film "Demographic Winter."
We need a good old world war III.
If there aren't many people anymore existing, there also won't be enaugh people existing for making high-tech bombs and such which is something that needs many people.
Not really... These days more and more woman over 40 get babies because of the technologie that allows them to do it.
Thanks Octomom.
SCIENCE Children?
"The odds of genetic problems also jump as you get older: at 40, your chance of having a child with Down's syndrome is one in 110; at 45 it's one in 30. "
Test-tube babies had better be screened to make sure that they don't produce a generation with Down's syndrome and worse.
Test-tube babies are the latest trend.
Those babies won't necessarily be healthy, however, and if each woman produces only one, Japan's population will still shrink.
Aso is an idiot.
Or else he wants to rule a nation composed of a few Korean immigrants, some robots, and native-born Japanese with birth defects.
if happen it will make more raping
yada~
Shouldn't it be: Don't get pregnant if you're poor.