Sony’s much heralded PS3 Slim seems an immediate hit, but any objective comparison seems to reveal its slimness is rather overstated, with shrewd marketing and the substantial price cut the real cause of attention.
The comparison above illustrates the sizes of the major recent consoles in some detail…
Of these units, perhaps only the original Xbox stands out as being excessive, with its lack of vertical design the main issue rather than absolute size.
Nintendo’s impressively compact devices are perhaps less impressive when their inferior technical capabilities are taken into account, though they are at least inexpensive.
By far the most impressive of these is the PS2 Slim, a unit Sony still seems keen to sell, with some speculating that their refusal to release full PS2 emulation for the PS3 is in fact a ploy to prop up the PS2’s viability…
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though it doesn't look all that much smaller, its components are said to be much lighter, and the entire console is 1/3 the weight of the original PS3.
Flat.
Frat
Problem?
Gah!! Draken, you've break teh combo!! DX Dammit!!
fap
dat
Ass
Playstation never said it was slim, it's just anew playstation3, people named it slim but it's not.
fez
fat ugly 3d pig
Delicious Flat Console
Bullshit. They called it PS3 Slim on Gamescom.
gamescon branded it PS3 Slim, not sony
It is slim, compared to the original PS3, dumbfucks. :>
Phail.
Moar like PS3 Stout.
huh... So PS3 is larger than XBOX??? *Hugh as an Ps3!*
ZOMG MY HOME IS SO SMALL THAT A FEW CM SMALLER DEVICES MEAN THE WORLD TO ME
Oh shit, and I'm so fucking weak that the few times I may have to move a console while I own it that it's very important it be a pound or two lighter.
slim enough for me ^_^
still an upgrade from XBOX360
Meh.
Now where's Billy O'Reilly? He'll bitch about this...
Good question.
XD
He commited suicide by knowing the cruel reality
He was chasing a tip when he unfortunately met Chris Hansen. It was a ploy by his detractors.
Slimed for 399$ to 299$ with more Memory
That was enough for me...
The memory is still the same:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
But the Hard disk is alot bigger >:)
Hard disk is consider memory too, and you can also call that RAM.
HDD is storage isn't it?
ram/ memory is speed, HDD is storage
Who seriously needs 120 Gig on their PS3 anyway!? Unless you use it like your main computer or your porn storage bay then no one actually needs all that space on a gaming console.
I Guess some will still want more but i doubt it is very usefull to most people. Slim is nice tho.
Still waiting for full PS2 compatibiliy, C'MON!
(=^.^=)
Well, if you buy a bunch of games and movies for it, it will eventually pose a problem. My guess is that their answer is to add more and more space over time. My 360 has 10 gigs and that'd fill up pretty damn quick after downloading a couple HD movies and games.
with many games in the future possible being online download, i'm sure all that space will come in handy.
Between game demos, content downloads, and the install feature (for faster loading n stuff) I've filled up nearly 60 of 120 gig on my 360. I could probably make do with half of that, but having it there makes things easier. Never have to worry about clearing space or such. Just hit download and get on with it. Assuming Sony are planing to extend their online service in a similar way to Live, I can see it getting used.
I saw a 160GB PS3 for $299 the other day. Plus that's the model that has PS2 backward compatibility + 4 USB ports & memory card reader.
$299 for a stripped down model with less features/storage? Fail.
160Gb ps3 with backwards compatibility and 4 usb slots + memcard reader? either you're lying or that is the old 40gb version with upgraded HDD
You sir fail at life.
rofl, hadn't notice that the Wii was that small.
It looks cute.
+1
There it isn't a wii comparision...
It's because it isn't neither this generation nor tha last?
There is a Wii there, are you blind?
hahaha
jajajXD yeah... It look so insignificant that I did'nt see it!...XD
ew, 3D pig whore.
"the slimness is overrated"??? what kind of stupid fuckin article is this?
it's slimmer than the original, that's all that matters.
Cheaper too.
I have to agree with Doeman, I don't like this article.
"Sony’s much heralded PS3 Slim seems an immediate hit, but any objective comparison seems to reveal its slimness is rather overstated, with shrewd marketing and the substantial price cut the real cause of attention."
If you do the math the PS3slim is about 37% smaller than the first PS3. Which IMO is good. I can't comment on the marketing but I'll pick up on the price cut in my last paragraph.
"Of these units, perhaps only the original Xbox stands out as being excessive, with its lack of vertical design the main issue rather than absolute size."
What is this claim about the original Xbox being "excessive?" If you do the math the original Xbox is about 12% smaller than the first PS3. Which one is "excessive" now?
"Nintendo’s impressively compact devices are perhaps less impressive when their inferior technical capabilities are taken into account, though they are at least inexpensive."
Well duh the Nintendo Wii is small and inexpensive but look at it this way. The technical capabilities (IMO) of the wii, are only a few small steps in front of a Slim PS2. The Slim PS2 is about 34% smaller than a Wii, yet only a few steps forward in tech. Also on the Gamestop website I can buy a Slim PS2 for USD100 and a Wii for USD250. IMO the Wii is not so "impressive" and/or "inexpensive" as you claim.
"By far the most impressive of these is the PS2 Slim, a unit Sony still seems keen to sell, with some speculating that their refusal to release full PS2 emulation for the PS3 is in fact a ploy to prop up the PS2’s viability…"
You are right the Slim PS2 is very impressive. The Slim PS2 is about 18% the size of a Slim PS3. And the Slim PS2 is USD100 while the Slim PS3 is going to go for USD300. However, I own the very first generation of PS3 the 60GB Hard Drive version, that had full backwards compatibility. I paid USD600 (god I hope I'm right about that {I can't fully remember}) for that PS3. But most people don't need a PS3 for PS2 and PS1 games. They only need/want the PS3, so for them the PS3 Slim is an awesome deal. However if they want to play PS2 and PS1 games then they can spend another 100 bucks and do that. Where as I spent 600 they still save 200 bucks. Talk about a Win WIN!
(Thanks for sticking with my story)
IMO Artefact this article Sucked I know you can do much better, and thanks for the picture!
-LordFishy
That's Artefact-quality for you.
With all the focus on triple-dipping DLC, I don't think I'll bother buying one.
It's slim compared to the regular one... but it's the largest one of the bunch.
Sony never address the new PS3 as PS3 Slim... You won't see Slim anywhere on the console or the box. Basically the slim moniker is what the press and us invented to call this product easier.
And remember folks, PS3 have the power unit inside the console while Xbox360 comes with a power brick.
A power brick. A simple power brick.
Or is it more than just a power brick?
***********
As I was moving stuff about in my living room due to a sudden urge to change the layout, my Xbox 360, along with its components, were sitting upon a small table.
"Damn, this is taking longer than I thought" I moaned, after noticing the room now being a complete disaster.
"Daddy, I can't find me shoe." Kotonoha had entered the room, holding up her right shoe.
"I'm not sure honey, but I'll try to find it after I clean this mess."
"Why did you make a mess?"
"I was trying to move the furniture around to make it easier to watch movies. However, I've run into a bit of a snag. Mind helping Daddy real quick?"
"Okay."
Kotonoha scurried into the room, but tripped over and old DVD player I left on the ground. She tried grab the table where the Xbox stood, but ended up pushing it over, causing the Xbox to fall down.
"Owie!" cried Kotonoha.
"You alright?"
"Yeah...sniff."
I walked up to her and propped her up. Then I turned my attention to the Xbox, which had part of the casing snapped off, along with the power brick being slightly cracked.
"I'm sorry."
"It's okay. As long as you weren't seriously injured."
The power brick started to emit a green glow, pulsing with every second. Along with the glowing was a small noise, almost sounding like a flute.
"That's weird."
I picked up the power brick and tried to inspect it.
"Is it broken?" Kotonoha questioned.
"I think it is, but..."
The power brick began floating up out of my palm. I jumped back, amazed by the turn of events. The green light became brighter as the sound grew louder, until it burst apart. The entire room was now dyed green, and music from a flute echoed into my ears. The green light finally dimmed, and was appeared was a small fairy, with green pigtails, a elegant green dress, and a flute in its hands.
"Why hello there! I am the magical Xbox fairy. Please, call me Alyssa-chan!"
"Okay, Alyssa." I answered.
"Alyssa-chan."
"Pardon me, Alyssa-Chan. May I ask, why were you in my Xbox's power brick?"
"It's because I and other magical Xbox fairies live inside each and every power brick! You see, it may appear that the Xbox is powered when plugged into a wall, but it's actually powered by the melodies we play with our instruments."
"I see Microsoft outdid itself here, but why keep it a secret."
"Patent trolls would copy the idea and sue them later."
"Well played."
"Anyway, since you have released me, I shall grant you one wish, from a mountain of gold to being emperor of the free world!"
"No shit? Anything?"
"As long as it isn't more wishes."
I stood there, dumbfounded. Anything that I desired could come true? I could become the richest man in the world, or get a space ship and travel the universe. Even become God himself!
"I wished I knew where my shoe was." piped Kotonoha.
"Wish granted!"
A beam of green light shot across to Kotonoha's head, where she then ran out of the room, to shortly return with her left shoe.
"It was by the front door." She smiled, as she danced around, holding her left shoe in the air as a sign of victory."
"Well," Alyssa-chan interjected, "I must be off. Thank you again for your kindness!"
Alyssa-chan then faded away, like she was never there. I fell to my knees, realizing a once in a lifetime event had just escaped my grasps.
"You okay, Daddy?"
"I'm...I'm fine. Don't worry about me, Kotonoha. Just, let me finish cleaning the room alone for a bit."
And just as fast as she had disappeared, Alyssa-Chan returned.
"Oh yeah!" She said.
"Yes?"
"Your warranty has been voided. Good bye!"
*************
I hate fairies.
LOL
i'm not gonna read this long ass "comment"
Heh, your loss buddy. I found it hilarious.
Was hoping it was going to change to the theme from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air at the end, but alas...
I walked onto the stage, as the spotlight shined upon me. The mic stand had already been adjusted for my height. At the mic, I took out a piece of paper, and cued someone off stage. Music began playing. Right as it was my cue, I began to sing.
"Now, this is a story all about how my life got flipped-turned upside down. And I liked to take a minute..."
I stopped, realizing how pointless this situation was.
"Fuck it."
I walked off stage, as the spotlight turned off and the stage lights dimmed. The theater remained empty, cold, desolate.
Along with Peter Barton heart. :(
Awesome story, dude :3
What a cute story! lol! Nice one!
For me it's a good way to tell poeple that even if Microsoft put fearies in each of their consoles, They're still FAIL!
(=^.^=)
Ah, finally! I've been waiting to get a size comparison to the PS2 models. Thanks for satiating my curiosity!
Still.
XBOX360 > PS3 & Slim
PS3 is overrated. OHZSHIT, BLUERHEY!
Love my chubby PS3, PS3 Slim makes me gag.
That is also Decade’s fault!
Onore Dikeidoooo!
I got a PS3 so I don't need one. The Japanese is also selling the PS3 slim package with the new Gundam game.
PS3 has crap graphics and crap bluray. Get a good computer. Sure It's a bit pricey, but think of all the games you can download for free.
*Looks at Uncharted 2*
*Rolls eyes at crap graphics comment*
*Watches The Sky Crawlers on Blu ray*
*Rolls eyes at crap Blu ray comment*
MARI0, try not to feed the trolls. They go ape shit over anything.
*Looks at all the *action I pretend I'm doing so I write it down here* comments*
*Rolls eyes at all the *action I pretend I'm doing so I write it down here* comments*
*Finds some Sasami loli hentai*
*Takes off pants*
*Starts fapping*
*Hard*
Hands off mai waifu!
Your waifu?
Sorry my friend. I see your avatar with Sasami AND Skuld. If you're going to have Sasami as your waifu, you can't replace half her face with anyone else. That's just... unsavory.
SASAMI WILL ALWAYS BE MY ONLY WAIFU! (yeah, that's actually kinda sad)
lololol wut?
PS3 is the most power console out so far. You should take a look at LittleBigPlanet and Metal Gear Solid 4 before saying shit about graphics.
PS3 started off as the best Blu-Ray player out there and is still one of the greater ones today.
And try playing Uncharted or MGS4 on the computer, dipshit. Plus, some of us like to support our games. Pirating is great if you're fucking poor. Not because you don't feel like spending the money.
You have no idea how many games I have. I've got about 14 different consoles and plenty of games for every one of them. All paid for. So I'm not poor, I'm just a fucking asshole who's tired of paying for shit. My money goes mostly to manga's and all the Sasami stuff I can find now.
gamecube isn't weak
gamecube is WIN
Correction EPIC WIN
I now dub the new PS3 "Fatboy Slim".
Now I demand more dancing Christopher Walken
Am I the only one who thinks the fat PS2s still look cool? ._.
I love my fat PS2.
I never got a slim.
The PS3 slim is an ugly joke, and the Gamecube was not "inferior" in any technical way other than disk space. The Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, and Prime 1 & 2 all arguably looked better than 99% of PS2 games and the majority of Xbox games. I never thought bump-mapping looked that great, and without it, the Xbox's games look like shit.
Graphics and HDD are important but the game itself is more important. A bad game is still a bad game on an overwhelming console.
(=^.^=)
I find the whole slim thing ridiculous. Especially when people sell they're previous consoles at a pointless loss, just to replace it with the slim version.
And I'll agree with you that the Game cube was in no way technically inferior. While some aspects of its design were poor, and it flopped big time in marketing and sale, it was a good machine. I can't agree with your slating of the original XBox though. Look at games like Chronicles of Ridick, Glitch in the System, Halo2, Dead or Alive 2Ult, Ninja Gaiden, Halflife 2, they barely look any different to the supposed "next gen" titles being put out on PS3. Plus, no fucking memory cards=win. With all the superior hardware the PS3 boasts, I have to wonder why half of its games could still be run on the old xbox. And for all the pathetic talk of "it's too big, it'll never fit in my tiny...", that didn't stop me carrying it some 100 miles between parents homes every fortnight. How often do most people move a console anyway?
Admittedly, I can't help but end my childish console rant with a short slating of the PS2 though. Two controller ports!? Buy a splitter? The fuck! Even the freaking N64 had 4 ports.
Then again, rethinking, none of these consoles can run Touhou. I declare they all fail.
"...they barely look any different to the supposed “next gen” titles being put out on PS3."
Are you blind? Perhaps ignorant. Extremely stupid is possible. What about... shut the fuck up and make a list of PS3 games you made and post pictures that compare PS3 to Regular fucking Xbox. Maybe THEN you'll see.
*PS3 games you played*
The arguement here shouldn't be whether the PS3 Slim isn't all that slim. The PS3 Slim is slimmer than it's predecessor. Even then size of a console is rather a trivial thing.
Well considering it's not even officially called the PS3 "Slim", I really don't see the problem. It's still WAY smaller than the original PS3 design, and that's what counts.
If 37% is "WAY smaller than the original PS3 design" then yes it it.
Looking at the comparison videos, yes it is WAY smaller. If anything, that's just a testament to how freaking huge the original model was.
Yeah you're right, seeing as the original Xbox is 12% smaller than the original PS3. I'm really glad they have made it smaller and cheaper, I can't wait to see more games on the system because of a larger consumer base!
Just XYZ the PS3 slim is 37% smaller
Sony never label it as PS3 Slim. The term is resulted from the leak. There might be a slimer version later.
Maybe its not radically smaller or slimmer but its better designed in most ways.
The PS2 was still much much better though, fuck the grill design.
Size matters not. Only the new low low price of 300 USD. Now, the only thing left for Sony to do is to lower the cost of game dev as they did for the PSP. Then smaller companies like Atlus would start making more PS3 games.
lower the cost of game dev? Not sure if it's the same but they did lower the price of the PS3 dev kit, making it more affordable for smaller indie developers.
I just realized the GameCube...
is not a cube!
But the PS3 Slim isn't really supposed to be a PS3 Slim. Sony never marketed it as the a PS3 Slim. It was the media and all the rumors running about that coined the term "Slim" for the new PS3. Seeing as the new PS3 is square-shaped, it's pretty much a redesigned console going back at its roots.
Wtf are you talking? It cuts HALF the size of the PS3 fat, and it's slimmer than the 360 as well. This is what i call SLIM -_-
Wow. I never really know how slim the PS2 slim was until now. That is freaking slim compared to the older PS2 machine.
Whatever. It's slim compared to other consoles, it'll work better than other consoles, it's slim. I just wish this was what Sony released the first time instead of the bulky PS3. It's like a gaming desktop except the monitor is your freaking television.
Who the fuck cares about the size of their console?
Well there is physical limit to how small electronic devices could get. Take transistor for example, it has to be big enough for at least one electron at a time to pass through. Not quite there yet, but I am sure Sony did the best they could. Don't want to waste materials anyways.
And what have I been telling?
If they wanted, Sony could easily release a portable PS2 platform, or better yet, a new portable platform capable of playing PSP and PS2 games.
Nevertheless xbox360 still suck dick.
PS4 - PSP + PS2 + PS3 Combi.
Awesome
Instead of speaking slim only. Haven't anyone noticed that the "old" PS3 is bigger than the first Xbox in all three dimensions? Sure it's elliptic shaped, but still D:
Well... Not really. If you ever open up the console you can see that there's actually a lot of space one could put the components of the power supply into. But I think they made it external so that if the power supply ever went, you could just buy a new one of those instead of a whole new console.
....Wrong reply button...
I think that if you want to do console comparisons, you have to consider the power adapter too.
If Microsoft designed it like Sony, then their systems would be way bigger.
i wont buy a ps3 until full emulation is given fuck sony, long live the PC gaming master race!
full backward compatibility in a firmware update by years end. was already announced.
sources of them now
Source please? I read on the news that Sony representative deny report about firmware update that would give B/C back, which makes sense. If people want to play PS2 games they would need to buy a PS2. They are also letting PS2 run its course and have people buy PS3 games instead.
Well, speaking with my local ebgames types, theres likely to never be backwards compatability, because part of the 'slimming' process was to remove the Processor that was specifically for being able to run PS2 games. They liked it to removing the appendix. Its there. but... well... take it out and no one will miss it.
So hard to see how a firmware update would let them run it when Sony has excised the tech they put in to allow it.
they should maintain the silver ps3 logo..looks classier ;D
Its not slim enough for me. I can fap to this.
xbox 720
i wonder what the next xbox be named...
Ehm you made a mistake there right there in the part where nintendo would be "inferior" to the ps2..
ps2 graphics where the worst of that console generation (xbox, gamecube and ps2 in this order from good to bad graphics and preformance).
Don't shit me here trying to be all impressed by puttign a gameboy in a slim box. ps2 has no power what so ever, it just has a massive game set developed for it. still makes everything looks ugly.
No no Sony but Nintendo is still the master in repacking consoles in small boxes...
As for the ps3, it was about the inside that they made this change... They just changed the outside wel... Cus it looks new and if it looks new ppl want it. Cus it's new.
were, not where.
I really can't tell what's the big problem with the PS3 "Slim" not being actually slim (save for Sony lying once morem which is something I thought most people all over the world were accustomed to)... nor do I comprehend what's the point of putting a console on its side (objectively speaking the original Xbox was the single best piece of hardware of the sixth generation systems, but the craptacular "X" logo is simply inexcusable). I mean, the discs ar harder to put into and extract from the system when it's like that, plus additional strain and physical unstability on the system itself... it's rather stupid and pointless, if you ask me.
Does anyone even remember the original xbox?
i never even heard of it until people make a war on ps3 and x360. during ps2 time, all i heard is ps2 and nintendo something.
this ps3 'slim' is already slimmer than the phat ps2.
but there might be a real slim ps3 later.
You're a fucking dumbass.
Isn't "least inexpensive" a double negative?
Wouldn't that mean Nintendo is expensive?
.. PS3... PS3 Slim... like comparing Oprah...
big Oprah... small Oprah... both still FAT!
FAIL !
umm so all they did was remove that weird grill top?
and give it full backwards compatibility
I'm glad it's not as thin as a PS2 Slim, that thing overheated more than the first Xbox 360 consoles
Can't say about the first slim models, but my standard, charcoal black (ugh) SCPH-70001 didn't have any overheating problems, and its already some three years old.
In any case, materials' quality plays as much a role on a system's stability as does heat generation and its proper dissipation, both concepts at which Microsoft failed miserably with the 360 in order to get it out as soon as holiday 2005... which in the end gave them an overall global market superiority, but that's beyond the point.
Umm.. If you’ve ever looked at sony’s marketing record, you’ll see nothing but failures in advertising.
- Racist PSP billboard ads where a white person is dominating over a black person.
- Sony’s own website where they were actually trying to perform side by side comparisons of Gran Turismo HD vs. Project Gotham Racing 3, claiming their screenshots were so much better while the PGR3 screens were crap. Unfortunately they didn’t bother to check the better screenshots they were promoting, were actually the PGR3 screens.
- A fake PSP “fan” site, promoting the handheld as a cool multipurpose device. It was easily determined that site was made by sony’s marketing staff.
- Decapitating a real goat just to serve soup from it’s body to promote God of War II.
- Gran Turismo poster that includes a rear shot of a car, but it includes PGR3 in the license plate. Which means it’s an image from stolen from Project Gotham Racing 3 again.
I can list more, but it just keeps on going, and it would take an eternity to describe the stupidity of sony marketing staff.
i hate this racist crap. for example if a white guy seem beating a black guy he will be sued with racist but is it perfectly fine if a black guy beat up a white guy
Slim and Flat...just how i like my Loli.
...Its not so slim... lol. The thing has SO many things going on. Bluray, built in wifi, and other things, and they want it slimer, its fine by me.