A lolicon has been sentenced to 17 years for attempting to seduce young girls online; however, he never succeeded in chatting to a real girl at all, instead chatting to a succession of undercover police officers.
The man, a resident of Indiana, hankered after young girls and so tried to arrange real life sexual encounters in likely sounding chat-rooms.
His first effort, in 2006, succeeded in striking up an incriminating conversation with “13-year-old girl” Amanda_13, actually an undercover police officer attempting to entrap any lolicon hapless enough to stumble into such a chatroom.
Soon he persuaded her to meet with him for sex, but when he showed up for the rendezvous he was instead greeted by a police snare.
Secret Service officers soon searched his computer, discovering chat logs of him talking to supposed minors, aged 13 and 15.
After convicting him, the secret service finally realised that “daisy13_Indiana” was in fact one of its own agents, prompting the lolicon’s defence to appeal on the grounds of entrapment.
The judges reviewing the appeal then recognised the name of the other girl he had been chatting with, “blonddt,” as being yet another undercover officer from an earlier investigation.
“To our surprise, the government was unaware until this panel told it at oral argument that the other screen name, blonddt, was also an officer from the Indiana operation.”
The courts upheld the conviction anyway, holding that the chat logs amply demonstrated he was hunting for loli sex.
His sentence of 17.5 years, along with a lifetime of state supervision, has been upheld.
He apparently never chatted with a real underage girl at all, perhaps demonstrating that such chat-rooms are now the exclusive haunts of lolicon and police alone.
Via Wired.









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It wasn't me, I swear, I'm no cop...
Awesome XD
Epicness !
technically, he isn't doing anything wrong yet. Crime? there no crime done yet. Shall we caught people and punish for crime he not done yet like in 'minority report'? He isn't talking to a real underage girl too. (and why would underage girl on chat anyway? what's the parent doing?)
anyway, entrapment is also wrong. If he fight back legally, he would have win the case.
So police should only act AFTER someone has been killed/badly injured according to your logic? This guy clearly has the intention to solicit a minor if the undercover cops didn't stop him on his track. And no, he would have not won the case.
It wasn't entrapment. Entrapment is when the officer propositions the target or coerces the target into propositioning. Neither was the case, and it never is.
Also, what happened to police as crime *prevention*? What's the point if all they do is punish people after the fact?
The police didn't pass the verdict, the judge did.
Deathnote. Enough said.
Intent to commit any crime is just as punishable (and rightfully so) as the deed itself. No one should be complaining that the punishment is unfair just because they were stupid enough to not only make an attempt and fail (& quite miserably at that), but that they got caught doing it.
If you are serious enough about your convictions to cross that line in the first place, you should at least be prepared to deal with the consequences if (when) you fail.
tl;dr He got what he had coming & maybe if he's raped enough in prison (and he will definitely be raped) he'll learn from his mistake.
~
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Attempt to engage in consensual sex with minors does not deserve the punishment of being raped by convicts. That's cruel and unusual punishment.
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Convicts don't go around and rape everybody in prison. If you are a criminal with good intentions like Robin hood, they will give you respect. Because sexual predators are such scums even among criminals, they got their butts raped.
The problem here is that not all sex offenders are sexual predators. In other words, they're not all *violent* sex offenders. Many of them are convicted for engaging in purely consensual activities. But few people, unfortunately, make that distinction. That's where my concern is - people convicted of consensual crimes being mistreated because they are assumed to be violent offenders.
+1
Very well-put!
I'm surprised that Wired used Pedobear. Nice.
Doesn't he know that the Internet is where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents!?
17 years? Murderers and rapists get less than that.
God I hate the people in this country. Nothing but idiots with dogma.
Young adults don't need protecting. They aren't stupid, just ignorant. We treat them stupid, and put them in a proverbial playpen so they don't hurt themselves, instead of helping them grow.
That's the job of a parent. To give them knowledge. You can't stop biological urges, so you better instill them with the facts.
Or would that make too much sense?
This is kind of ridiculous, haven't murders received lighter sentences?
He should have said my cat did it and I'm here to retrieve my cat
A cat is fine too.
So the pedobear was disguised as a lolicon... interesting
You guys suck. There is nothing unnatural about wanting to have sex with someone that has gone through puberty.
It is a parents responsibility to teach their children about predators and to just say no. It's called street smarts and common sense.
Why not just give children over the government at birth, and cut out the middleman. I'm sure they'll look after them as fine soldiers.
If every parent was responsible like they should be, there wouldn't be any young adult being manipulated into being taken advantage of.
I like how it's not a crime to take advantage of a woman that is 18 with a one night stand, but anything else is wrong. What? She's 18 so she's magically intelligent and not naive? Fantastic.
No one was raped. No girl was seduced. No crime took place. It's that simple.
I swear we reward people for being stupid.
What else can we make the government do for us so we can be lazy and further remove our rights of freedom, choice, and free will.
I must have missed how sex was harmful. If a parent tells their kids about predators, protection, and the joys and consequences of sex, they will understand. They won't take advances from strangers. They will use condoms if they decide to be sexually active.
OH WAIT THIS IS THE SAME COUNTRY THAT FUNDS ABSTINENCE PROGRAMS AND REFUSES TO TELL YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT SAFE SEX.
IT IS ALSO THE SAME COUNTRY THAT ARRESTS YOUNG INNOCENT ADULTS FOR TAKING CONSENSUAL PHOTOS AND SENDING THEM TO THEIR BF/GF AND BEING PLACED ON THE SAME LEVEL AS RAPISTS AND REAL CHILD MOLESTERS.
AND IT IS ALSO THE COUNTRY THAT DESTROYS LIVES BY MAKING INNOCENT PEOPLE SEX OFFENDERS BECAUSE THEY HAD SEX 1 SECOND BEFORE THEY WERE 18, THE MAGIC AGE WHEN ALL YOUNG ADULTS BECOME SUPER INTELLIGENT AND MAKE NO MISTAKES WHAT-SO-EVER.
why won't you take a seat right over there...
may be the intention of the guy was to go to teach the girl what she did is dangerous. May be he knew an amanda and was curious to see if it was her etc. That stupid justice, in which not even a girl was part of it, is ridiculous. Attempt to do a crime... they can not probe it, and what you tell in a chat to a 13 year old girl is just what you tell in a chat to a 13 year old girl.
Fail at reading and comprehension? This guy is a repeated offender. I don't think they would build a case against him on his first offend. Might get a citation, but definitely wouldn't have ended up in jail and get butthurt.
This is why you should stick to 2D lolis.....
Sounds exactly like that how to catch a predator show
except you know
not on tv
Protip: all girls in chatrooms are either cops or trolls
why do they keep trying? must be that obsessed then must go to jail. crazy how some highly respected people get caught.
there was this one guy who would trick girls to send nude photos then blackmail them for sex.
then i read a local story how a guy did the same thing except he posed as a girl, got a boy to send nude photos, then threatened blackmail him. "she" told him a guy was coming over to suck is dick.
unrelated but funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx-4lVC7VKQ
17 nice year :3
For some reason in the back of my mind I believe if he just went out, raped, then murdered the girl he'd probably somehow would have gotten off with a shorter sentence than he got for just attempting to meet with little girls. The police should do a punishment fitting of the crime. Rather than jail him for that long, jail him for 2 years and take away all rights to use internet for another 6 years.
This may have something to do with the back of your mind being fucking retarded.
Yet another case that proves what I have been telling people for years: this whole BS about pedosexuals is NOT about protecting children, but about enforcing the 'morality' of people on other people.
It's simply time to LEGALIZE pedosexuality, bring it out into the open, repeal the 'child sexual abuse' and statutory rape laws, and simply tell children that if they don't want a sexual encounter with someone, tell them that you don't.
If they don't listen.... yell, scream, rant and rave and get the attention of someone else, because THEN they are doing something wrong by trying to force you into a sexual encounter you don't want.
You are retarded. Pedophiles prey on children because they are gullible, and not because of love. If you love someone, you wouldn't mind waiting a few years for him/her to be more mentally mature. And those chat room predators clearly target their preys because of their age, not because their personalities or any other valuable qualities as a human being. They objectify their victims, and worse yet, as sexual objects like a blow-up doll. So don't try to defend them.
And you are misinformed. If women only existed for a few years and then automatically transformed into men by some unavoidable natural process, would you tell everyone who is attracted to women that if they really loved the woman, they'd have no problem waiting for them to transform into a man before expressing their love for them?
Please cite an instance where such phenomenon actually happens. And I am not misinformed. Pedophiles are opportunists.
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Please cite an instance where a pedophile devoted himself to one victim only. Every case I have read about is either they got caught red-handed the first time or they leave behind a string of victims. There is no love involved, just lust.
The fact they're gullible, their reactions, emotions and faces; you cannot find any of that in most women nowadays.
That's also what pedophiles love, which is completely understandable, and that is why they rape such lolis~
Anon, the point of my hypothetical (yes it was a hypothetical) was to try to give you a more familiar insight into the mind of somebody who is attracted to an age, by reframing the situation in terms of gender alone. I'm sorry that you seem to have missed that.
The point is, if a person is preferentially attracted to a certain age, then asking them to withhold their advances on the "target" (unfortunate term) of their affections until after that age has passed is like me telling a heterosexual male that he's not allowed to hit on women. "Waiting until they grow up" is equivalent to "hitting on a guy instead of a girl". That's all I was trying to say. It's far from a perfect analogy, but I was trying to keep things simple.
Regarding your other points, they do not relate in any relevant way to pedophiles, as you claim. You are talking about sexual predators, who are often opportunistic, who look for victims rather than partners (who they then objectify and abuse), and who are motivated by negative feelings such as anger and spite, instead of positive feelings like love. This has nothing to do with pedophiles.
Actually I've heard that in a great percentage of these cases, the child already knows that adult, as a relative or baby-sitter or teacher, you get the point.....just saying :P
again, molesters prey on children not pedos get it right.
Really? I think you should have a seat right over there.
Right over there, on the "Group W" bench, with mother-rapers, father-rapers, and all kinda mean, nasty, ugly people...
I second this. Though what age would be an appropriate replacement age? 12? 14?
internet is just wonderful. on the net all the men are men, all the women are men and all little girls are CIA agents.
No shit, Sherlock.
The CIA doesn't set traps for pedos buddy, the FBI does.
If it's the CIA who's set up the trap then the lolicons will be dead at their monitors.
It would be even more epic, if at the randezvous point a gay police officers showed up and raped him, THEN took him into custody. Everyone would believe that the victim lies to try and save himself.
17 years and he didn't even fuck anyone
what a fool, if you're gonna go to prison for that length of time at least commit a real fucking crime
Yeah. I've seen dudes douse a person with gasoline and light them on fire killing them get 17 years. WTF is wrong with this nation that horrific murders cause less of a reaction then a potential sex crime.
He didn't fuck anyone, but he'll get @$$ fucked by everyone (in prison, LOL)
poor 17yr old virgin
Don't go to irc for lolis... go to MMOs. I find them all the time, and I don't want anything to do with real lolis!
That guy is truly a noob, he should already be aware that usually most little girls in IRC (unless they're kids curious for pedosex) would try to play jailbait and say they're 20+yo women.
poor lolicon,he newer really talked to a real loli.
>He apparently never chatted with a real underage girl at all
Omg, Lol so hard at this, epic fail lolicon.
17 years!? If you steal 100 millions you wont get that many years in jail :D
I guess you never heard of Bernard Madoff.
Bernard Madoff did not steal 100 million. He stole 52 Billion--- and the goverment got mad about that. That's US FEDERAL money. Plus--- he ripped off a LOT of smart, elite, connected people and they wanted him screwed to the wall, buried under the jail, forever.
If he had only stole 100 million, he'd be out on time served and house arrest for the rest of his life.
And what is wrong with that?
Money can be gained, lolis glory lasts forever
DAMN?!
DAYUM
I guess he never watch TV. Chris Hansen-To Catch a Predator! HAHAHA! what an IDIOT!
OMG! Chris Hansen!
(kill-self-with-gun)
This is hilariously tragic, but all too perfect an example to be made of. Since when did attempting to commit a "crime" warrant an equal penalty to committing that crime, anyway? Down with entrapment.
Since always. Law (English as in the commonwealth states) have always set attempted crime the same penalty maximum as the crime itself. Here is Australia the sentence to attempt or even conspiracy is the same as committing the crime itself. Sux i noe, but what can we do about it? ;S
I am in despair! The free world's hypocrisy and legal destitution has left me in despair!
zetsubuo shita!!!!
You can go to jail for 'attempt murder'.
The police is synonym to 'crime PREVENTION', which is VERY easily abused when there isn't enough evidence but if they're butthurt enough to throw a fit and fuck up the rest of your life.
But it seems this time it wasn't the case, and lolicon lost.
The difference with "attempted murder" is that policemen aren't purposefully putting you in a situation where you are going to kill someone.
Putting that aside, I think I know what the next step in lolicrime prevention is. Precogs will predictively find adults who are about to engage in online conversations with law enforcement agents masquerading as little girls.
I just can't imagine charging a person for murder for firing at a scarecrow on account of the fact that the person *thought* the scarecrow was a real person. In that situation, I'd be inclined to say, "lucky break, kid".
Imagine you have a dog (or some animal) that SOMEHOW manages to dress up as a man with astounding acurracy. You then try to kill said man over a number of possible reasons. You then find out afterwards that it was not a man you killed but rather a dog. Logic says you should be charged with murder? Logic also says you can NOT be charged with animal cruelty?
If the person really did believe the scarecrow was a real person, then yeah, I think they should go to jail.
I don't consider it hypocritical at all; the person wasn't just 'intending to shoot someone' they really thought they did shoot someone.
Of course, it'd be difficult to convict someone of attempted murder for shooting a scarecrow because most people would dismiss it as a 'lucky break' without a second thought.
I just really wonder why you can go to a real jail for propositioning a pretend minor. I mean, I understand that it makes a good tool for law enforcement to find those people, but I really don't get why it can be considered a crime. It's illegal to proposition a minor, a police officer pretending to be a minor is not an actual minor. Therefore why is propositioning the fake minor illegal?
Propositioning a fake minor isn't illegal, attempting to proposition a minor is. Whether or not an actual minor was involved doesn't really matter, so long as the attempt was made.
so the scum can be out there till an "actuall" minor gets hurt..... we're not playing minority report here... and i'm glad in this instance that he's put away.. wish they'd do it to the rest of them as well..
+1
That guy had it coming.
Last. Oh noes.
Anyway, I'm surprised IRC was involved. It seems low profile.
And generally a bad place to actually find a loli IMO.
You know what they say "IRC - Where the men are men, the women are men, and anyone under 18 has a .gov ident."
Dude forgot Rule #30...
Please have a seat.
^Sadly enough, i have to agree with you. King of Hentai Gods will FAP to EVERY aspect of hentai. Including Guro, Loli, toddler, yaoi, shota, yuri, MILF, & ... well, just about anything you can "Rule 34"ed XD
He forgot: No REAL girls on Internets. LOL
There are, though. Or at least, there used to be. Trust me on this (farawaylook.jpg)
^ Self proclaimed KoHG is nothing but a fake, you must accept all.
why loli... adult is so much better, they got boobs!
This reminds me greatly of an episode of CSI Miami.
Some guy was working as one of those undercover cops, but soon became a predator himself.
that's a pretty stupid nickname though....
better than "totally a little girl not a cop"
Yea. anonymous is sooo much better, right?
You're an Amanda_13 too?
The man stupid enough to chats with them anyway.
You mean "desperate enough" amirite?
Great picture
Must be hurt for that officer to pretend and play sex role-playing as that guy's loli..
I wonder if officers have to take a class to learn how to act like lolis?
U got that right
:(
yeah has to go to work talking to lolicons
Epic fail and epic image :D
You wouldn't happen to have any more pictures of Kyon-kun, would you~?
Endless Kyon?
Meh =_=;
harassment of kyon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHy4n3RWqjk&feature=fvst [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHy4n3RWqjk&feature=fvst]
WTF, u are taking pics of my back?! STALKER
ROFL XD