King of Fighters Moe Degeneration

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The recent release of King of Fighters XII has been widely hailed as a disaster, chiefly for gameplay reasons, but some can’t help but lament the direction some of the character design has taken, with schoolgirl fighter Athena Asamiya‘s incongruous degeneration into a generic saucer-eyed pink-haired schoolgirl a case in point…

Current (Moe Blob) Athena:

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GIF:

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Previous Athena Designs:

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See also the direction Mai Shiranui has taken

Via Hachimaki.

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    Comment by ShibariComplex
    14:14 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She looked better in KoF 11

    Comment by Tate
    13:36 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    she doesn't really match the style of the rest of the kof cast, ash also falls victim to looking out of place except that he's gay.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:34 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    THOSE MOTHER FUCKERRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSS.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:14 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nobody seems to have mentioned it, but that design is how Athena originally looked when she first came into existence.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_Soldier
    Not that it makes the design any more interesting.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    16:33 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Indeed, sadly enough, so-called KOF fans thought that KOF95 was the actual/authentic Athena.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    21:38 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Err.. i mean 94.

    Comment by Chibicon
    14:37 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wtf?

    2001 is superior to them all.

    Comment by Astray
    15:59 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Admiral Ackbar looked at this and said "Its a trap!"

    Comment by Gradation
    15:39 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cute, but....why are you legs so fucking huge?!!!!

    Comment by Marine-RX179
    14:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If...and it's a very big IF KOF can make it to XIII, I wouldn't be surprise if they turn Athena into a loli next lol

    Sure moe sells, but moe LOLI sells EVEN BETTER rofl

    Comment by SuckerPunch
    13:02 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    99 looks da BEST :3

    Comment by Veknus
    11:02 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the only thing that is missing in this is her being a bit mature

    Comment by an oni mouse
    11:36 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That 2 big legs is not FAT,,,
    That are MUSCLES guys, MUSCLES !!

    Comment by an oni mouse
    11:38 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *use are after "2 big legs"

    btw, this is a fighting game that you're talking about,,, :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:56 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's aiming for that Chun Li look

    Comment by chrisl
    10:49 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hehe well i realy like the new look, for the old school style i would go for 97
    still i like more the new look

    Comment by RiderFan
    10:30 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's sad that her King of Fighters 97 sprites show more.

    Comment by maga
    09:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And she was one of my favorite characters too...

    Comment by MusicalNote
    10:07 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The new one is cute... but it's inferior to the older designs. They had a personality to them... this is totally generic.

    I'm still saving every image on this page though.

    Comment by SCB
    12:02 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It'd be great if they kept the green eyes, though ...

    http://www.neogeoforlife.com/forum/attachments/psycho_soldier_flyer.jpg

    Comment by Vampire Lord
    12:32 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder if she got an actual movepool to compensate the lack of panty shots (they even put tights last time and it was OK), seriously, I like Athena, but she is not even a flexible character in a matter of gameplay.

    Comment by ロリ の みかた
    16:17 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF at the Thunder Thighs (TM)

    Comment by Jago
    05:18 05/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess nobody likes her because she doesn't show her panties. Not even in jumps or high kicks.

    Comment by hALOTOO
    11:46 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We all know that physic user can control their look, so they can look "forever 17",just look at the fapable
    Fujiko Tsubomi from Zettai karen children as an example

    Comment by cloner4000
    16:08 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this is more like the character that getting younger as year goes on.

    Comment by RSLAEV
    11:33 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Glad I'm not the only one that thinks her new design is shit. She looks fucking 9 years old now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:44 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're all a bunch of noobs. This isn't a degeneration, it's a return to form: http://yfrog.com/0ypsychosoldierej

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:44 21/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm guessing they made her legs that thick so they'd cover up where her pantsu would be showing when she lifts her leg...

    Comment by Ukonkivi
    09:39 28/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Favorite designs:

    2000, 2001, XII

    A moeblob is fine too.

    Comment by Shino
    05:01 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    94-2000, 2003 are the only ones I like.

    I hate the XII look. It's terrible. Her legs are OFF, hell even Chun Li's arms aren't that damn skinny.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:53 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    KOF XII IS CRAP !!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:24 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're complaining about a character that changes greatly between incarnations of the series changing again? I guess that's fine, but I think if anything they were going for a more normal look for her on purpose.

    If anything she's less like a magical girl than she was before. I mean fuck, she's always looked like she was ripped straight out of one of those shows or something. I'm not sure what you think good character design is, but I don't think making a character less flashy is necessarily a bad thing. She does have a bit of a cutsey-eyes look going on, but calling that "degradation" is a bit much. It would be nice if these articles could be a bit less biased sometimes.

    That said, she does suffer a bit from thunder-thigh syndrome this time around. Oh-fucking-well. Still not as bad as Chun-li.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    16:48 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    All she's missing is her usual red&white suit, other than that she still have that that purple-ish (err.. pinkish now) hair and her star headband, i don't see why fighting games need to discard moeness just to make it look Gar (and Gay).

    I prefer Hinako, Momoko, Malin and Ninon over her and any of the KOF girls anyway.. :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you looked at how Athena looked in her cameo game, Psycho Soldier, then all of this perfectly canon.

    Comment by metatron
    16:47 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well...she's cute in her current moefinication

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:34 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    xboxhueg thighs. she looks awful. I liked her much better in the previous versions.

    Comment by 名無し
    19:05 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is misrepresentation of the reasons for Athena's change in character design. With KOF12 SNK took many characters from over the years and returned them to their more classic designs, with Athena they simply used her original character design from the Psycho Soldier series of games for the NES. You can find the rather terrible box art from the game on its wikipedia page.

    Still, it was probably a mistake to do this seeing as how most people's exposure to Athena (and the rest of the cast of Psycho Soldier) came from KOF where they had substantially different character designs. It was probably intended to delight fans, but SNK seems to have not realized just how obscure Psycho Soldier really is and has instead alienated fans. This is probably a good analogy for KOF12 as a whole, being an attempt to return the series to its roots while updating it for a modern generation, but critical missteps in the implementation caused it to backfire. What a shame.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Her KoF12 sprite is great. Especially for retro gaming fans. Also Anime chicks in the 80s had some meat on their legs and damn it, some of us liked it that way!

    And apparently not many people here played Psycho Soldier back in the day. That is pretty much the whole point with all the classic characters and their outfits.

    Also...
    Athena has always been a generic magical school girl if not a magical bikini clad swordfighter.

    I imagine if Athena showed some panties once in a while, most people would be fine with her KoF12 sprite.

    Comment by kenjiharima
    01:43 04/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She gained weight.
    Dyed her hair.
    Gotten a younger look which supposed to be in her senior years.
    No panty shots
    bad choice of uniform color...and beyond.

    Still fap worthy though...

    Comment by SenseiSyaoranLi
    23:13 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I liked the moe :3

    Comment by Cessa
    22:13 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i like this character but why dont they make it as new character?
    this one ruins Athena's.....

    Comment by MARl0
    05:50 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And this is a bad thing...why exactly? She looks better now then ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:52 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Athena 2001 is the ugliest

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This design is shit.

    (sarcasm) Oh look, a loli schoolgirl, how original, never seen that before or anything.

    No way does that pander to otaku (/sarcasm)

    This whole game is a disaster anyway, fuck playmore.

    Comment by eve
    05:44 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    her legs look fat

    Comment by Doriinatrix
    05:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...wow. I wouldn't even have recognized that as Athena D:

    Comment by mo
    06:01 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    my ranking would be:
    1. KOF 97', highlight=tights
    2. KOF 02', highlight=skirt
    Those chubby legs in XII seems to be a pretty big failure // personal opinion only
    A list of character design:
    http://plaza.rakuten.co.jp/kanpai/6001

    Comment by mechwarrior
    06:26 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    KOF2000 is the only one I accept. The new Athena looks damn generic. In fact, a lot of the characters now have questionable appearances. Well, thankfully Ash still looks as pretty as ever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:14 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you look at her platform game with fully voiced J-pop BGM, you'd see that if they had "moe" back then, that would be exactly what they were going for.

    I hardly think you could call a character who can fight independently in a martial arts tournament a moeblob though... wouldn't you at least need moe + dojikko + crybaby?

    ...and I don't even like Athena, lol... Yuri FTW! >:3

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:08 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i just thougt it was a different character, well it was ok till 2000, 2001 is just leena le from d-gray man, and the rest they just fucked up her, they already had yuri for moe, they even got a shota with bao.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In the past, people used to say that sex sells, but now moe sells better... Well, at least in Japan^^
    But i like moe, so that's a good thing.

    Comment by tokupoku
    09:57 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Moe sex sell the best, I also approve of new moe design.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:05 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Holy fuck. I can't tell if she's aged or gotten younger.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:49 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's gotten full body plastic surgery. :P

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    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, they ruined her.

    Comment by TheOtherOne
    05:04 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And how exactly is this a degeneration?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:38 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She used to be a culturally recognizable icon like Mai and Chun-Li. But now she just looks like some generic mahou shoujo character from some afternoon kids' shows. And she looks nothing like her past incarnations.

    Comment by KorTaku
    12:59 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    whatever, art changes with the times as is seen by the progression of art types from renaissance, surreal etc. etc.

    All things follow this and moe blob is the trend of today's anime industry, therefore the industry caters to the demand.

    I dont mind too much, because i am into moe blob but i can see why people would see it as generic.

    Comment by KorTaku
    13:00 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    also, though i have not played KOF, it does seem the early art forms to be very realistic and depicted as near animated human character and the progression is easy to see the blurring of realism, so the moe version of XII shouldnt be a surprise to any KOF fan.

    Comment by adolf moeler
    08:07 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    but she was a generic mahou shoujo character from her original game just no school outfit thats the only main def

    Comment by the7k
    07:37 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Someone hasn't been keeping up.

    Athena has always been a generic mahou shoujo character. Always.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:40 15/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This design isn't new. They used this costume and stance in Neowave. I kind of like her with thighs, though. Makes me wanna put my head in between them. (Both directions)

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:41 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The new Athena has thunder thighs. How does that *not* make her easily recognizable?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:59 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So basically she degenerated.

    She started as generic mahou shoujo, attained a sense of individuality, then promptly lost it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She looks hawt, but something is missing...

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    Comment by Storm Wing
    07:29 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Must lose some weight", i think??

    Comment by Storm Wing
    14:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thunder! Thunder!! Thunder!!! THUNDER Thighs!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!!

    LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:36 15/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, I think the Neowave Althena (used in XII) is a rather good design. I guess other Althena fans aren't used to it too much.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:35 04/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder what 2003 Athena's turds look like when she got off the toilet?

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:54 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yucks, how are those things able to attach to the waist

    Comment by Alaudia
    18:01 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    only chun-li can pull off the huge thighs look

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:56 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's muscle, not fat!

    Comment by x-Tremera
    08:51 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    trap WTF?!!?!?!?......no!!!!

    Comment by zecks_marquise
    09:01 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck yeah thunder thighs!

    Comment by ToTo088
    07:19 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    like pantsu?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:22 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    is it just or do her legs look way to big for her body?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Missing a theme song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7SfeO9s390

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:54 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PSYCHO BALL!!!

    PSYCHO SHIELD!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That generic, saucer-eyed, pink haired girl will bring in a whole new variety of Otaku, though. It's the 'new marketing scheme' trend at work! >:D

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:10 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like 2000 better

    Comment by InfiniteNine
    05:49 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2000 rules.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:18 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2002 is the best. Agreed.

    Comment by Himitsu-saite
    15:41 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    she gets younger every year doesn't she?

    Comment by Kyo
    13:05 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2002 is the best! Long hair so cute <3<3<3<3<3

    Comment by KorTaku
    12:57 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2000 is pretty good and so is moe blob XII but then again, ive never been into KOF.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:38 15/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    97 is the best. According to a source, she apparently can't age beyond 17, making her that one year shy girl we all want but morally we can't have.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:58 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2000 is the best.

    Comment by AnonymousZ
    09:10 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah "the ‘new marketing scheme’ trend at work" and it fail miserably.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:35 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can't blame them for trying, it usually works :/ Maybe some more pantsu flash will fix it?

    Comment by Fonzer
    05:06 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Plainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:07 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't worry Athena, I like your XII incarnation :(

    Comment by sanimej2
    06:32 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don’t worry Athena, nobody going to buy this game. *fix*

    Comment by AnonymousZ
    09:11 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Damn right, I'm not gonna play it even if it's for free!!!

    Comment by gunzaku
    13:22 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i would "buy" it if it is free AND has a hundred dollar cash taped on it. then i just take it home, take the money and byebye game.

    Comment by FSF
    05:26 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How the fuck is that a moeblob? I'm sick of people incorrectly applying vocabulary that really has no definition to begin with. Her designs changed over the course of two and a half decades.

    Also, here's a shock KOF fans: Your characters don't look like Chinese George Clooneys any more. Better go slit your throats on a rusty piece of metal. The world is coming to an end.

    Comment by Artefact
    05:36 03/08/2009 # ! Impenetrable

    "incorrectly applying vocabulary that really has no definition to begin with"

    Comment by FSF
    05:52 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "incongruous degeneration into generic saucer eyed pink-haired schoolgirl a case in point…"

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:07 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The fact remains that "moeblob" does not pertain to aesthetics.

    Comment by heyjey
    08:18 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    exactly, sorry artefact, better luck next time with your silly words

    Comment by FSF
    05:28 03/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *one and a half, more accurately




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