Equality Now Demands UN Hentai Ban
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jul 24, 2009 19:18 JST
- Tags: Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Lolicon, Mass Media, Misandry, Raep, USA
Feminist crusader group Equality Now’s latest moralist histrionics take the form of a strongly worded letter to the UN accusing Japan of being rape heaven, and demanding a ban on hentai and other forms of pornography “harmful to women.”
The letter tells the UN’s feminist arm CEDAW, the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination against Women, to tell Japan in no uncertain terms that it is a bad country which is oppressing women, and there are a number of laws it must enact in order to appease American feminists.
Here is the summary of their rather lengthy screed, which can be read in full here (PDF version):
Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned.
Japan is nation where courts let rapists go free with a slap on the wrist. Sentences must be increased.
Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.
Evil misogynists have waged a “hate mail” campaign against us. We were sent some AV which we thought was child porn involving “girl-children”, but Japanese police experts on pubic hair told us it wasn’t, so they must all be misogynists.
Rapelay was withdrawn from sale, the EOCS banned all fetishes, and some companies have banned foreigners from their websites. This is not enough. The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal.
The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct.
It is no wonder this group has attracted “unprecedented” criticism for its unremitting attacks on freedom of speech.
You can convey your thoughts on their wanton attacks on visual culture on their website.
Perhaps being bombarded with criticism in the same way they bombard politicians in other countries with unsolicited mail is a new experience for them, hence their displeasure.









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lets forbid everything, porn at all, then sex, then hm internet, cars, food, air, water, fuck u all I draw my own now
this is like saying gta encourages murder "It must be banned!" but, it doesn't ww
That's fucking retarded. It's NOT real life.
Sadly EN doesn't seem to be in touch with reality. Perhaps they think hentai is real life? Such a possibility is...disturbing. @_@
if hentai is stopped, rape rates will only increase and equality now will be on top of that list at FULL FORCE
Japan a Rape heaven? isint their crime and rape rates lower then most western nations?
Sounds like a case of bullying,pick on the weak call them all possible things that they aren't.
Because most of them could be unreported. Social stigma gets put on the unmarried girl because she becomes "dirty" and the parents have more of an incentive to hide the event rather than to report it.
EXACTLY.
We need to keep up with the hate mail to EN, but also we need to send some well written mails to the Japanese politicians to show our support for freedom of expression. Don't make this just an eroge issue.
"Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape."
Uhh what? Isn't that to make sure it really was rape?If I had sex with a prostitute and then she reports me for having sex/rape with her,I'm basically fucked,assuming prostitution was legal at that time.
intolerance must be fought with hentai.
send the most hardcore pic you have to Equality Now (http://www.equalitynow.org/english/contact/contact_en.html)
epic h loli.One loli gets penetrated streched so much that it also penetrates the other so he is actualy having sex with both girls.
But won't post that lol
Good idea, respond to their efforts to ban hentai by sending them examples of why they should ban hentai. Excellent thinking there.
maybe ur wanna try something milder....
then we can say we tried to persuade them but failed
then we can f them for all they 're
Wat do yur think of dis?
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to your organization’s recent letter by Ms. Jacqueline Hunt to CEDAW with regards to the Eroge/Hentai industry in Japan.
I understand that Equality Now aspires to eliminate all forms of gender discrimination and abuse especially in third-world countries where women are resigned to the most dismal and marginalized roles in society; it is an act that I am personally supportive of. Your relentless efforts are applaudable.
Nevertheless, on the basis of pragmatic reasons, I must suggest that your group stop its movement to pressurize the Japanese eroge industry.
Allow me to point out some inconsistencies in the letter.
Firstly, the hentai games in mention, such as RapeLay, do not perpetuate gender stereotypes. The portrayal of women as being in a submissive position in the game is not reflective of the Japanese male populace’s intentions of subjugating or compromising women. This takes instead from the genre BDSM, short for bondage, domination and sado-masochism. It is a widely found genre worldwide and has never been perceived by anyone to be an act of discrimination as much as it is a deviant sexual fetish. There is no evidence proving that the said genre promotes violence towards women and women only. As a matter of fact, as much as there are pornographic elements that portray abused females, there are a proportionate number of materials in Japan or in the hentai industry in general that have “dominatrixes”, basically the female equivalent of the rapist in RapeLay as well as males who are subject to the same treatment. This is above all, proof of the gender-indiscriminate nature of hentai/eroge and it is acknowledged publicly in Japanese society that these are fantasies that remain fantasies, fantasies that all are entitled to, regardless of gender. While there is indeed much left to be desired regarding this aspect of human sexuality, I believe it is not fruitful nor is it reasonable for Equality Now to attack the eroge industry based on this claim.
Secondly, with regards to the other themes subscribed to in the games, such as that of “incest and sexual abuse of schoolgirls”, these are universal themes that are found not only in eroge/hentai but also in pornography worldwide. For the majority of people who view pornography, this is a variation of sexual excitement, akin to a change of dressing over the same salad. The change in setting or perhaps position is more often than not, simply decorative. For instance, the school uniform is usually not expressive of the desire to bed a young girl. It is however indicative of man’s favoring youth and passion. The ultimate goal is not to derive pleasure from harming women, but just simple sexual gratification.
That said, admittedly there are perverted individuals who perceive it otherwise. However, it is never by eroge or hentai that perverts are born; these depraved individuals are inherently problematic or socially deprived and it is with this pre-requisite that they later seek refuge in either self-delusion or pornography. Eroge/hentai does not participate in the causal relationship between perversion and violence towards women. By no means, is it ever intended to or does it increase discrimination towards women.
In addition, I would like to clarify that the specific genre, lolicon is technically considered to be a part of the kawaii subculture of Japan than it is that of pornography (kawaii-cuteness). Any portrayal of abuse of young girls is a spillover of a liking for cuteness into the realm of sexuality. To be just, lolicon should be discussed in a separate context.
Then, it must be mentioned that the description of Japan’s situation as proof of the perpetuation of stereotypes is grossly misinterpreted, if not deliberately manipulated for effect. This is the faultiest paragraph of the letter. The “great impact on gender stereotypes” conceded by the Japanese authorities a case of cultural stereotypes as seen from beyond the country, as opposed to societal stereotypes amongst the Japanese. Traditionally, women in the media are demure and caring homemakers and thus the epitome of the Japanese lady that figures in any work of art or literature; take for example, the romantic Xu Zhimo’s “Sayonara”. It is thus a common conception by foreigners that the Japanese, their culture and their values are so and such. This cultural stereotype however is only on theoretical planes. With the exception of older generations, still not free of shibboleths of oriental tradition, actual modern day Japanese women are not expected to live up to these “qualifications”, nor will they be chastised or ostracized for betraying the cultural stereotype. Today, Japanese men and society recognizes the difference and respects female rights, proof of which is in the many woman friendly measures the formerly chauvinist nation implements to protect women. It is thus implausible for the stereotypes to be to the detriment of women anywhere, even fictional female characters.
“It was noted that in prosecuting the crime of rape, judges in Japan required victims to give proof that they had fiercely resisted and had been severely intimidated, and also that judges evaluated the victim’s “virtue”.” There is no link whatsoever between this phenomenon and the “myths surrounding rape”. The rationale behind this bizarre judicial process lay not in the widespread Japanese misunderstanding that girls enjoy rape, which in any case is non-existent even after years since the first eroge was published. In reality, it is the conservative and hesitant culture of the Japanese judicial system that resulted in this; the courts of Japan has a tendency of showing leniency to suspects of absolutely any crime unless his guilt has been ascertained beyond doubt. With reference to the statement, “The Committee also expressed concern that the penalty for rape was relatively lenient in Japan”, it must be pointed out rape and molestation is some of the hardest crimes to establish legally, as opposed to robbery or manslaughter which leaves little room for doubt. To make things worse, the legislature of Japan is still undecided on issues such as marital rape and implied consent. This is most unfortunate of course, but it must be understood that it was born of a flaw in the Japanese judicial system and is unrelated to the topic in question.
Also, the games in mention have a cathartic effect on males, especially potential sex criminals. Libidinal impulses inherent in males dictate that they must find an outlet to relieve themselves of their drive. The do this either through a leading a healthy sexual lifestyles, Freudian sublimation or through the use of sexual materials. Regrettably there are people incapable of the first two approaches. As opposed to venting their vagaries on actual living persons, it is for the greater good that they are granted access to pornography. If scientific proof is required, CASPER, a neutral organization based in Kyoto has published its report. It states that areas with ready access to a diversity of pornography have considerably lesser rates of sex crime. If juxtaposition is required, the obvious example of the nation of Saudi Arabia, which has a total ban on pornography and Kenya where your group should be very familiar with can be considered. The statistics do not support the claim that hentai/eroge compromise women. The statistics however, favor the claim that hentai/eroge dams up libido and protects women instead.
Nonetheless, I agree wholeheartedly with Equality Now’s stance on the actual gang rape videos and I am equally appalled by the cruel methods the perverts have used to protest. I believe this is the physical manifestation of my worst fears. All the more do I believe now that there is a real need to stop all action against hentai/eroge.
To conclude, I am primarily worried that should the case against hentai/eroge be heeded, the modern female’s standing might be compromised, exacerbating gender discrimination in Japan. It has been proven that ready access to extreme pornography does not contribute to the “prevalence of violence against women”. What your group is trying to do now, runs the risk of disturbing the equilibrium and unleashing chaos in Japan.
Jonathan Mitsuoka
I wonder if the the UN laughed as hard as I did reading that ridiculous letter.
dont they ever shut the fuck up for just a week -o-
theyre REALLY starting to get on my nerves now...
I finally wrote them a letter.
These people have to be some of the most ignorant, arrogant and uneducated people that I have ever seen.
I just hope rest of the world is more intelligent then this. I seriously doubt the U.N will give a shit though.
this is actually starting to get quite entertaining, i wonder how the UN will react to this, and also don't these chicks know that the more they try to bann and forbid hentai and stuff the more the masses want it. hehehe, ok then UN your move, let us see what will you become everyone's hero or an enemy to the world.
The UN? Seriously, when was the last time they did something other than talk?
Besides, "everyone's hero" is a little overboard considering the rather small population of otakus.
UN is already dealing with the following:
World Hunger (Especially in Africa)
Economic Crisis
Human Rights Violations
North Korea situation
Israel vs Palestine situation
And many much more.
But this racist group thinks a victimless industry is much more important than all of those combined?
I really think people should start finding out who are inEquality Now's sponsors or donors, and send them mail instead or even boycott their businesses, so it would cripple the funding for these racists.
And EN are already violating Human Rights that is third on your list.
Sending EN e-mails even logical ones with good arguments doesn't solve anything.
There sponsors is a good choice to go after.
After that you can also send a logical e-mail with very smart arguments (not the kind that says if they ban hentai people are gone a rape real women), to the UN and object to the human right violation of EN request that prevents you to enjoy artistic and fantasy material in the safety of your own home. A material that has no relation what so ever with real women,children or rape incidents and is no different that watching violence and action in movies and games.
There are other countries with more dire situations and real problems. South Africa has a huge rape problem right now, even their own government has encouraged their own military to rape women. Yet inEquality Now! chooses to target a completely docile country to wage war against with their racist propaganda.
Hentai ban... hmm can't say I didn't see this coming. -_-
"Japan is a nation which accepts hentai."
So you're telling me that [place name of nation here] doesn't accept pornography in any manner and in any form of expression? And that said nation codemns it in everyway they can, is that it?
"Japanese judges violate the rights of women by taking into account whether they resisted their “rape.” Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape."
This is just plain hard core discrimination. The male population is at a disadvantage because this law doesn't just apply to women but men to. If the female population are to be exempted from this law, then I can safely say that any act of sex will be considered rape. Also to begin with, this law is already disadvantageous to men since aside from just resisting rape, if the male victim is said to have achieve at least an erection, then it would no longer be considered rape anymore.
"The UN must tell the Japanese to do as we direct."
Who are you to the world and who are you to the Japanese people to say that. Again this is just plain hard core discrimination. To involve themselves into such topics which oppresses the country's morale and freedom of speech, this is act is a serious form of terrorism.
The acts and claims of Equality Now is just down right discriminating to the very core. If the UN and Japanese government are to succumbed to their wishes, then the UN and Japanese government are supportive of communism, tyranny and terrorism. Thus further trusting the security and well being of every country in the world in the UN's hands, should be nullified because it is they themselve who support communism, tyranny and terrorism, even if we are to say it is in lowest form.
If Equality Now truly wants equality, then the same set of laws that apply to men should be applied to women and vice versa. No more exemptions because of gender issues. Else the name Equality Now is just a facade to what should have been called Feminazi Now.
Furthermore, Equality Now should first prove their claims for "equality now" before ever attempting to tackle any more moral issues in one country.
Lastly. Japan should strike back since Equality Now's just cleary being discriminating ever since the beginning. Their claims hold no ground and they can't provide proper evidence.
Putting the notion of communism with these hypocritical idiots shouldn't be done, since the notion of communism is supposed to be equal say, equal access, as a government of the community. Blame the corrupt officials for ignoring the origin of the word.
Now if you were to call their actions "totalitarianism", then I would agree with you.
Don't they realize that if they ban one of the only outlets to Japanese sexuality, there very well may be an increase of rape.
I have to agree with the second and third comment, since it has come up before in an article from the NY Times. Heck, browse the articles here and you might find similar results.
anyone else notice that in the 1st paragraph they say "Loli-con"? i think that sounds like a very win convention ^^
I want to go to loli-con!
Well, Equality Now, we want to see this determination firsthand and see if you can ban the North American pornographic industries first, which is accessible by children through useless Are You Over 18 confirmations and torrent sites. Calling Japan awful because of drawn photos of people making love while you let your kids watch videos that pretty much say girls are into random sex.
Do this and then the world's best country might think about not putting a "yada!" in the game's script.
I would like to hear what the majority of Japanese women think about this. After all, it is their country. If anyone should have anything to say on this matter it should be the Japanese women. I haven't heard them complaining about what the EN is. They need to stay out of Japan's business.
uh, the UN doesn't have that kind of authority.
no one does.
They however got influence nonetheless.
"...in order to appease American feminists."
I lol'd. What egoistical ignorant fuck heads.
I'm under this impression that women have more rights and freedoms in Japan than compared to the U.S.A.
I honestly think they should look at their fucking own country before accusing other countries with better condition records than their own.
I think this is a waste of their time, since they probably won't get very far with their stupidly conceived crusade.
Summary = FAIL.
what I'm afraid of is that they might actually get pretty far....the world is in a state of chaos..
fuck those bitches! why attack anime and hentai, when movies of real life girs are just as bad. why the hell don't they start with america's porno industry?
Just like Japan walked out of the League of Nations in the 1930's it might be time for them to walk out of the UN and tell the UN they have 48 hours to remove all personnel and equipment from the country and refuse re-entry of any UN people/groups in the future.
Since Japan is the second highest source of UN operating expenses, it would hurt them in the hardest way.
But modern Japanese politicians don't even have a tenth of the spine that their predecessors had 60-70 years ago, so they will probably bend over and let the UN have their way with them. Just like in a cheap Yaoi story. Which, incidentally, will not be banned because there are no fake women involved and thus the femanazi's could care less.
Yes, Japan should certainly quit the UN because an unaffiliated third party wrote to the UN asking the UN to ban some of their video games. That would be one for the history books.
DDOSING AT FULL POWER
Why don't they just let people have their hentai? T^T
If they don't want to view it they don't have to, but it isn't going to make anyone who views it a rapist. :P
Why don't they pay attention to what's happening in Africa, Afghanistan and whatnots? They're fucking ridiculous.
Now imagine if you will otakus, given their mental stability, roaming aimlessly the streets in their hentai-deprived state. So much sexual rage... Forget about women, they will rape pretty much anything bipedal that moves, even stuff that doesn't? They will even hunt in packs! It's the end of civilization! Now that's scary!
Thanks alot Equality Now!
I hope it's just me failing to detect the irony in that comment....
Why the hell ban hentai? it's not even real people! It's just an artistic expression of eroticism. If they are considering banning hentai, why not ban all forms of pornography entirely? It's just being personal now.
They ban it, and trigger a chain reaction of a critically increased crime rate.
Given how all the conditions meet, I dare say it's a conspiracy to destroy Japan at this point.
Well, I sent a letter to them. It goes like this:
Being listed as one of the most safest country in the world to live in outside of foolish foreigners who kill them, I once lived there for over four years. I've walked many streets in broad daylight and close to midnight. Never once feeling nervous or looking over my shoulders for thugs to steal or kill me.
Not Once. The center of all pederasts is Japan? Why do you lie about this so much? These accusation have happened because you see that they have games that show women being raped. Then assume that of course, Japanese men gear up for their daily rape-a-thons with a little bit of play thru for backing up their plans with a computer rape simulation. Have any of you within this farce of a sad joke been to Japan, have you gone there and actually researched the statistics before going off on this moral crusade to save the female population? Or are you all finding it easier to lament about Japan because it's safer to do so as compared to the rest of the world?
Your vorticity is borderline stalking tactics and intimidation on a country scale, why have you not followed on this crusade and protest the actually Killings of women across the world? Seen that movie now in the American theaters called 'The Stoning of Soraya M.'? Amnesty International has reported over eight stonings -six being on WOMEN- (so far) happening in Iran and so have you protested this to UN yet? Are you truly trying to protect actual REAL woman from dying on an almost daily basis in Africa, the Middle East, Russia, South America, Europe, North America, South east Asia, Japan and China? But most primarily in the Middle East?
Or do you all condone those killings because it is allowed by RELIGIOUS LAW in most of the Middle East and you all have to respect that? Why are you protecting figments of the imagination rather than actual flesh and blood? Is it because people are making money off it? You don't need to guess this, but many real female teenagers in Japan have been selling themselves off for escort duties because they need that new ringtone in their cells real bad. This "escort duties" range from simple dates to out right sex and Japanese directors have made movies about it since 1994! Those are Real young girls selling themselves off because of peer pressure or whim.
Please notice that last sentence and how it ends. On a "whim" will a girl sell herself off for money to buy the latest fad clothing, cell phone or jewelry. Will you protest about that too? No one Adult (Male or Female) forced those girls to do this. Will you retroactively condemn those girls from fifteen years ago?
There have been sensationalized media over the men who raped and/or killed females over the years. People like Tsutomu Miyazaki; A part of his name (Miyazaki) being an animators' name who directed a recent movie called 'Spirited Away' that won an Oscar, was found to have hundreds of video tapes of animation and slasher films. He kidnapped, raped and killed four girls back in 1984. How about Takuma Mamoru who raped a young girl and went on a killing rampage that took the lives of eight people in 2001. Mutsuo Toi; who killed over twenty-nine people back in 1936. Sakakibara Seito is the alias of a then-14-year-old student who murdered an 11-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl in 1997. Yamaji Yukiois murdered his own mother (in 2000), a 27-year-old woman and her 19-year-old sister(in 2003). And many, many more that you can research upon if you're even slightly interested to know.
But in the end, absolutely none of them outside of the first one mentioned -a very far, far stretch by any hand- had any connection to any one computer rape simulator. Those men (and children) murdered for closer reasons outside the realms of entertainment. One admitted that after they raped one of the victims he remarked that he loved the smell and look of blood and wanted to see more! What computer rape simulation compelled that man to do this?
You and your elk have been doing this sick roadshow for hundreds of years and condemning what's easy to attack has been your primary modus operandis to make you all feel like you're making the world fit better into your perceptions of reality. It works due to fears of lose of capital most often, but due to the power of the Internet. Your scams are now laid bare for all to see. Your records are no longer hidden and history will mark you as the harlots of falsity that you truly, truly are. You have ignored the realities of the world and wrapped yourselves into a cocoon of self-righteousness rage.
History will mark you well indeed.
That'll piss their panties.. bunch of wanna-be whores!
You'd be surprised just how powerful self-denial can be. :(
Equality now don't care about people. They never did. Its all about the ca-cing $$$$$$$.
They're not going to stop are they? :(
Why hasn't Equality Now started a campaign to get "Grape" renamed to another name 'cause it contains the word "rape"? /:)
I lol'd
Are they fucking insane now? Those stupid bitches would still probably not be satisfied even if this did go through.
RE: Bans imposition on adult games.
A complete ban on the adult games would spell problems for everyone. Firstly, i respect the feminist rights in protecting women and girls. However, should it be improvised, several markets will be affected. Japan, which has earned a name in adult market will suffer a decrease in its economy.
Furthermore, crimes assiociated with rape are likely to increase. "As we cannot fulfill our desires, we will have to do it to real people"
Ya, definitely this will happen
Now they're starting to get megalomaniacal. Usually a sign of impending downfall.
I've seen this letter already and I was wondering when it would show up here...
Almost forgot: great picture. Love the rope marks.
I laugh at how they ignore the negative images of men, both young and old, as being vile rapists, and now pigeon-hole men even further. Yep, this is nothing more than women trying to force dominance over men, with the false image of equality.
It's astonishing how much logic twisting can be gathered in such a small text. My favorites:
"What steps is the Government taking to eliminate the promotion of violence against women through hentai and other forms of extreme pornography, including real rape videos"
I love this - it both discredits hentai by putting it in the same cathegory with rape vids, and it's also structured as if "hentai = real rape" is an unquestionable truth.
"Notwithstanding the slight increase in the penalty for rape, in order to reflect the true severity of the crime what steps is the Government taking in response to the Committee’s previous recommendation to increase the penalty for rape and what measures are in place to ensure the full investigation and prosecution of all rapes in a serious and sensitive manner?"
And, my dear feminists, what proof do you have that the current punishment is not effective? I sure hope you have pretty colored tables to go with this document or else I'm stamping it "bull shit".
"is easily accessible in Japan and its use is widely accepted"
Weasel words much? If they didn't put "hentai" in front of that, you'd think they are talking about rape.
"This latter form of hentai, known as Loli-Con"
Ok, ok, one at a time, please. Don't change topics just to make moralist crusaders more likely to support you.
"the image of women in the media, who were often portrayed as objects either of sex or violence, had a great impact"
Umm... got proof?
"(hentai) perpetuate gender stereotypes (...) by portraying women and girls as “enjoying” being rape"
Proof?
"required victims to give proof that they had fiercely resisted"
Well, what do you want? A woman pointing her finger and calling "rapist" to automatically result in 25 to life? Wait, don't answer that.
"had been severely intimidated"
Criminals often try to intimidate their victims in court. The law has nothing to do with it. And neither does hentai tbh.
"depiction of one or more girl-children"
What about "boy-children"? For an organization that has "equality" in it's name, you sure don't mind discrimination.
"its obligations under Article 5(a) of CEDAW"
More weasel words. The government is under no obligations without solid statistical data to back up your claims.
"to address the broader issue of the stereotyped portrayal of women in these games and promotion of violence against women generally"
More weasel words. But putting "violence" and "these games" in the same sentence sure makes it look more convincing so who cares?
"has suffered an unprecedented hate mail"
Which is related to legality.... how? If your methods are unpopular among the people, you have only yourselves to blame. Take it to court if you have beef with the hate mail.
"videos that appeared to depict"
More weasel words. Disturbing as it may be, there is no reason to believe the vids wasn't copied out of an AV.
"but the (police's) lack of initial response serves to underline the Committee’s expressed concern"
I'm confused. What does the committee have to do with the police?
"women’s apparent reluctance to seek assistance from existing public institutions"
Proof?
"(EOCS) has just banned its members from producing games containing certain forms of sexual violence against women"
They banned rape just as you wanted. Under YOUR pressure. In a highly undemocratic fashion. But putting that aside, they are not legal authority and their decision is unimportant.
"(game studios) have apparently decided to prevent people from outside Japan accessing their websites in an effort to reduce criticism"
Read the fucking message on the said websites. There is a huge difference between "reduce criticism" and "protecting corporate intrests", which do not necessarily overlap.
"it is the responsibility of the Japanese Government properly to address the objectification of, and violence against, women"
Be that as it may be, you still haven't managed to prove link hentai with real violence.
Gotta love lawyers, ne?
If you're an actual lawyer, anon, you'd be one of the few I'd consider a credit to the profession. ^^
I was talking about the EQN lawyers that composed this crap. There is no way anon could be assed into such a boring profession.
Boring? Yes... but one also HIGHLY lucrative to boot.
You just need to have your heart surgically removed, and a lien put up on your soul...
The only thing I can say to that ladies is...
Dedicate all your time on the kitchen instead becoming goddess! May all the world's men fuck you :p
god, no wonder females are criticised so much, they are fucking retarded, i mean really, stop hentai what are people going to do? that wont stop rape it'll increase it because of a lack of anything else to do, i mean really fucking retarded, instead of picking on fucking cartoons, they should get a life and actually try to stop the PHYSICAL bullshit rather then putting the blame on a fucking drawing.
That's their problem xD They pressure Japan since they know it won't resist because they can't do SHIT about real porn considering their influence on the world and that's why they pick on the weak and after Illusion stopped selling their RapeLay the victory (if you can call it one) got to their heads and they started wanting ban for whatever they find disturbing or disgusting or immoral or what not shit xD that's why I hate feminazis like EN but hey who on this site DOESN'T hate them? xD
who ANYWHERE doesnt hate them? hell, they even hate themselves
Damn girls don't even have their facts straight. Rape-heaven? Australia and Canada have the highest rape rates, not Japan. At the same time some of Canada and Australia's cities have been given the highest "best places to live" ratings.
I'm actually pretty damn sure Japan's hentai is actually what keeps its crime rates so low. Everything can be relieved in a simulation rather than taking it too far.
im sure UN isnt ganna do shit, since never did anything. and never will
I don't see them campaigning against real porn, rape in movies, or sexual novels. The sheer amount of bullshit present is really starting to piss me off.
The National Research Institute of Police Science in Japan had found that, despite the spike in availability of pornographic material in the country, sex crimes were declining. Looking at Japan, the major problem with sex crimes is not that hentai is spawning sex offenders, but that the country's judicial system is completely unsympathetic to sex crime victims, sometimes even going so far as to blame them for their misfortune.
It often makes me wonder what groups like Equality Now are all about. They don't seem to be tackling any significant issues that truly are an adverse effect on women throughout the world. Instead, they'll waste their donated money to hire some big-time actress to star in their ads and attack the most sensationalist topics for more funds.
I wonder how many people here bothered reading the original version, lol.
Pornography depicting rape's still pretty easy to find I think, in the West, so I'm not sure how strongly the UN could push that agenda without creating a disturbing double standard. But then again, the UN's only useful for worthless things like that.
More importantly is their clause about changing Japanese laws. I think their suggestion to review the penalty of rape (minimal 3 years isn't much for rape, if min. 5 is for robbery, supposedly) sounds reasonable enough, at least on their paper. I'd have to check what the Japanese laws actually say, and how it's actually applied.
Most importantly is their suggestion that the Japanese court's diligence in having women "prove that they resisted" is a bad thing. This, completely blows my mind. If women were allowed to be raped and not resist, but still be able to prosecute someone, what on earth is going to stop women from randomly prosecuting people?
Though, with that said, provisions would have to be made to account for rape done via date-rape drugs and the like (though honestly, I don't know how many rapists actually do it while they're unconscious, since I've never read much info on that stuff).
Instead of Fighting REAL CRIME they Ban fiction? wow
Generic Email Create:
Dear Equality Now:
It stuns me to see that you are going to lengths this far to attempt to ban hentai and other forms of animated pornography by petitioning the UN to force Japan to make such things illegal. I am speaking to you as a fan of hentai, and yet also as a detractor of real life violence and rape, a dichotomy that you seem to believe is impossible for a person to hold. And yet, by deciding that all people who view animated pornography are misogynistic rape lovers, you enforce the same discrimination on an entire group of people, the same kind of discrimination that you claim to seek to eliminate.
I will grant you that some of the more provocative responses may have lead you to believe that this was the case, but you've also discounted sensible arguments and justly posed questionings of your rationale. You claim that you are not engaging in a war against pornography, and that "many also conflated Equality Now’s campaign to the opposition to sex." and yet how can you claim that their displeasure is misplaced when less than a day later you make the statement that "Japan is a nation which accepts hentai. This encourages rape so hentai must be banned." as if to allude that all animated pornography, written or drawn, must be centred on rape, when this is simply not the case. As with all pornography found everywhere, hentai covers a wide range of genres and subcultures, not just rape as you would claim.
You're lack of willingness to also see the legitimate points that people are trying to make is also mind-boggling. You attempted to provide evidence that the amount of rape in Japan was the largest in the world per capita, and yet when given statistics from multiple sources that proved how blatantly false these claims were, you backpedal and claim that those statistics are not legitimate, and then most frustratingly of all go on to claim that it is the lack(!) of evidence that provides you with the support you need, because people are seemingly "too afraid" to report rapes.
Above all, I am saddened and disappointed at the amount of time that you have spent on this issue, when there are many other more legitimate and pertinent problems that face women around the world today. You seem to be caught up in advocating for the rights of women that do not even exist in the technical sense of the word, claiming that their demeaning treatment paves the way for real life examples of such. Yet while you fight this battle REAL women are still being religiously, politically and socially repressed by traditional and governmental regimes elsewhere throughout the world. One would think that the concerns and plight of actual women would be of more value to you, but apparently this is not the case, and this is what I find the most disturbing of all.
That being said, I realize that you will probably not take this address seriously, but since you seem to believe that you hold some sort of moral and rational high ground on this issue, while at the same time grossly misrepresenting the facts and importance of said situation, I cannot help but speak out against what I myself view as a bigoted and ignorance based attack on a culture that does not deserve such treatment.
Nice! This is the kind of thing you lot need to be sending them if you want to have any kind of positive effect, not "HURR GET BACK IN MY KITCHEN BEFORE I RAPE YOU BITCH" like many of you seem to think is somehow appropriate.
Seriuosly? i mean really? wtf? How about they go to a fucking country that actually has human rights violations against women and do something about that. I guess this is an easy target though and requires no real action other than whining and screaming till they get thier way.
So they want to ban the hentai, which doesn't hurt any women, because some of it contains rape, but don't attack 3D porn, which is the one that might actually hurt women?
Considering that the UN barely has the authority to intervene in failed states like Sudan, let alone a first world major economic power, I really don't see what exactly it is they expect the UN to do. Their directives are routinely ignored, they can't override state sovereignty and they're certainly not going to send in the blue helmets. Although if I were running a hebtai company I'd try to relocate to America where there's much less caving in on freedom of speech issue. If they're so concerned about rape they'd go after the sex slave trade in eastern Europe, but I guess demanding the UN to obey them is easier than asking the same of the Russian mob.
lets make a new 'Equality Now' male version. those feminist can't take away our right to play these games
I wonder if they really do read our e-mail anyway.Even if they do when they will only show hate mail ot public anyway.
Women should not have to resist sex to be able to call it rape.
THEN WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT? It's pretty obvious thats it's not a rape if she doesn't resist? I think every country should follow Japans example of judgement system about rapes. It's a fact that women are fucking sluts, and that's why they don't resist. They know that in the end, it's very easy for them to put a accusation of rape and come away with a succesful prosecution. It's really just a game to earn money for them.
I hate 3D.
Wow... "I hate 3D" just simply negates your statement of "It's a fact women are fucking sluts, and that's why they don't resist." Enjoy fucking your hand. lol
I'll admit, there are women that exploit the system but between men and women, men are more of sluts (or I guess they prefer the term, sexually active).
Also on topic, I think this is completely ridiculous. Stop going after the porn industry and start going after the REAL people marketing/hurting REAL children/women. Whatever keeps the freaks in fapping rather than out hunting makes me happy.
:sigh:....radicals.....>.>
"...do as we direct."
honestly who do they think they are.
Anyone that sends them hate mail are idiots. All that's going to do is make them hate hentai more and want to censor it. You would actually be helping if you don't send stupid emails to EN. If you really want to help, send letters that you are against censorship to your local newspapers and politicians. (but telling this idiot community to write mature letters to powerful people IS asking a little much...)
Do you honestly think that what you propose would be more effective than a simple moral harming hate mail campaign. Do you honestly feel that any "local newspaper" would support our cause and go against the feminist. Are you under the impression that US people care about what a part of the rest of the world (which seems to be quite well represented on SanCon) think. Will you support the idea than politics will side with us and oppose a hysteric herd of moral war-mongering feminists?
You are very naive NotAnon.
Just let them know that a lot of people are disgusted by their propaganda. Particularly the few EN that still think they are fighting for "Equality".
Other well thought actions would be welcome too.
(Excuse me for my poor english)
Yes, actually. ^_^ As long as your letters are maturely written (i.e.: the letter not containing bomb threats etc. etc.), it actually can make a difference. Not everyone in America supports censorship. This guy certainly doesn't (and he's conservative):
http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Judge_Alex_Kozinski_Removes_Himself_from_Porn_Trial_19017.html
"Do you honestly think that what you propose would be more effective than a simple moral harming hate mail campaign."
Uh, yeah. Watching paint dry is always more effective than writing hate mail. -_-
"Will you support the idea than politics will side with us and oppose a hysteric herd of moral war-mongering feminists?"
YIf they receive enough letters, yeah. There are many news articles in US papers that support freedom of expression in media.
"You are very naive NotAnon."
At least I'm not a naive generic "anon".
"Just let them know that a lot of people are disgusted by their propaganda. Particularly the few EN that still think they are fighting for “Equality”."
What do you think that will do? Do you really think they will suddenly change their opinion on this and write an article along the lines of "Dear readers, we are sorry that one of our recent plans to censor Japanese porno games has offended so many people. We have received many letters hoping that we are raped and killed. Through hate mail like this, we have seen the error in our ways. Sorry readers! We won't let it happen again!"? All you are doing when you write them is enforcing that their opinion on hentai is true. How do you expect that writing hate mail to a group that believes you are already dangerous will help you?
"Other well thought actions would be welcome too."
Like what? Following up with the letters and sending them dead flowers in the mail? (or possibly something that actually would, you know, not reinforce EN's beliefs?)
"(Excuse me for my poor english)"
Your English actually isn't that bad. ^_^ It's a hell of a lot better than most comments here.
One thing everyone should also realize: Equality Now isn't the reason eroge is getting banned. The EOCS never had to follow EN's requests. They did it because they wanted to but never had an excuse to do so.
Women should not have to resist sex for it to be called rape. In fact, all sex with women should be considered rape, and mens dicks severed. All mens dicks should be severed.
Thinking about sex with women will get your dick severed.
And then humans would have to rely on science to prevent extinction.
Never gonna happen, too many people on different countries making money off it, plus there's enough evidence to support that the effect they claim hentai has on the population is actually the opposite [less sex crimes in Japan now than 30 years ago].
This... is just retarded.
Think about the alcohol proliferation, while that was in effect violence rates SKYROCKETED. The same thing with Drugs. The more we crack down on weed the more extreme organized crime becomes.
What do you think would happen if you stopped hentai? You think people would just stop thinking about it? It's more likely that rape, sex crimes and domestic abuse would skyrocket, just like organized crime did.
Must have some fuck ugly chicks over at their organization that they even want to ban drawn beauty.
How Hag-like do you have to be to be envious of drawn girls.Hoha
reporter asking a lad in town about the ban on hentai - "So what is your take on Equality's crusade agaist hentai the reporter asks - **not far behind where the report is a girl being attacked - the girl screams and screams for help! while there is a little boy minding his own business walkin down the street looking at afew hentai pictures in his album** the lad turns to help the girl but suddenly realizes, The young boy holding a hentai picture album. the lad turns again! and shouts at the little fella' BURN THAT ALBUM NOW ! or you will feel the wrath of Equality!. and also i'll phone the police! *the little boy crys and runs* the lad turns to the reporter and replys, WELL i dont really know but im sure im forgetting something, but alwell i got the important thing out the way saved the little kid from being a psycho! that i did.
"Equality now"? My ass. I really doubt this ban will actually work, and even if it does work, it will only make things worse. Women have as many rights as men do. In fact, women also consume, publish, purchase, or even draw "Deviant" art. These feminists really don't know what they are getting into. Not only will billions of yen be spilled, but both genders will lose more rights. Fighting for equal rights? How ironic. The only thing you are doing is restricting more rights and making unnecessary enemies. I really fail to understand this "Equality" group at all.
NO FUCK YOU ALL LOSERS WHO ARE PERVERTS! MY GODDESS WITH ME ARE GOING TO CRUSH YOU! MY RELIGION WILL PREVAIL! GET READY LOSERS! YOU WILL DIE! IN ORGASM!
For an American "English" speaking group to not even be able to use grammatically correct english as in feMALE children rather than their made up "girl-children"..
But I would expect no less from a male hating lickety split Womyns Group.
Slaps on the wrist? They want increased punishments for these felonies? So what, are they pushing for the death penalty like in so many other places? As it is, men aren't getting "slaps on the wrist", but rather having their livelihoods destroyed. Not only that, half the men convicted these days are done-so wrongfully, what with all the false-accusations going on now'a'days. So, after all this, they wish to destroy innocent men's lives further with increased sentences?
This isn't feminism. This is fascism!
Even if this is a year old, I feel I should point this out: "The Japanese government must ban everything we object to and make it all illegal."
Pretentious much?
NO. NONONONONONO.
They can't do this. ;n;
they need to mind their own fucking business in america, they should act more like iran and be in control of their own country dont be no bitch to america which has a higher rape rate pathetic
Lol, trying to ban hentai? Are you kidding me? These days, hentai isn't even limited to Japan anymore. Developers in other countries have taken up the torch and are producing their own eroges. Good luck with that.
This whole thing stinks of Prohibition-style utter stupidity. Even if they manage to shut down the big producers, Illusion, Key, Ailsoft, etc., all that will happen is a huge boom in independent groups and doujinsofts. I doubt they have the resources (nobody does for that matter) to patrol the whole of the internets and keep an eye out for every single hentai site. I can think of over a hundred off the top of my head, and that doesn't even include artists on Pixiv and Mixi.
In short, trying to ban hentai is like trying to stop the weeds on your lawn from popping up all the time. You can weed them and spray chemicals all you want, but short of paving over the whole damn thing with concrete, they're still gonna keep appearing. Same with hentai, or any other form of free speech, for that matter. Short of an absolutely iron-fisted kill-all-who-oppose-us approach, they can never completely get rid of the industry, and shouldn't even really try. Focus their efforts on something more worthwhile, like raising support for third-world countries or helping homeless kids or some shit.
Leave our boobies alone, dammit!
Sure Rapelay was disturbing ;)
But Rape is not a more terribe crime as murder is, and our games are filled with murders. Sometimes I believe feminist don't care when the victim is a man.
Those who realy believe that fictions about our darkest fantasm lead us to commit crimes: they should ban a huge part of the Russian, French and English literature witch is largely about adultery, murders. Romeo and Juliet is also underage (they are suposed to be 14).
"We will not go quietly into the night!"
Good luck trying to ban it. Banning things ALWAYS work (marijuana, porn, fundamentalism, etc)