KyoAni Responds to Endless Eight Fiasco
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jul 22, 2009 01:44 JST
- Tags: Events, Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, Production Controversy, Video Gallery, Yamakan
Kyoto Animation has responded to Yamakan’s regrets about the direction Haruhi has taken with the “Endless Eight” arc in no uncertain terms:
“This person has absolutely nothing to do with our company.”
Kyoto Animation at one time trumpeted his involvement; possibly it had to get rid of him for being too sensible?
Via J-Cast.
In related news, the absence of “Disappearance” from the airing of the “new season” is all but confirmed, and the Endless Eight DVDs will retail as normal DVDs, meaning they will be $70 for two episodes…
Unwise fans thinking of actually watching Endless Eight can compare the five episodes and watch them in 20% of time it normally takes with the below comparison video (video may load punishingly slowly as a thousand people try to download it at once):
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Yamakan did well to unrelate himself from such a failure the Endless Eight is, by giving his disapproval.
It's just boring.
The change from when he left Lucky Star wasn't really there. I loved it all the way through.
Kannagi was DECENT show. It just had pretty art and animation. Ep. 10 however, was the best episode of any anime of 2008. I will buy the series on DVD.
someone megaupload that vid please ;o
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=57SRLDD9
its in FLV format though
I don't understad you, pseudo-haruhitards...
First, you make a rage 'cause Haruhi doesn't come to you, and now that Haruhi is here, you guys, make a raaaaaage 'cause don't like to you the way that Kyoani make the things...
Seriously, guys, i don't understand...
(Btw, i like the Endless Eight)
This is what we call a troll, am I right?
i like endless eight too, maybe 8 episodes is too much tough. I think 4 episodes would have been enough
said it once, i'll say it again.
when it comes to haruhi, kyoani are pure assholes.
Actually, Artefact made a mistake in his post; yamakan left kyoto ani on his own.
There has been no good anime from kyoto ani since the original haruhi, including k-on!
Yes, i realize this could possibly start a flame war.
>this could possibly start a flame war
What do you think the previous 160 comments are?
well i for one bought the first season on dvd and will definitely not buy the second
i hope to see you guys report on the DVD sales
So they made the same episode 5 times with different footage?
what the fuck are they smoking?
crack?
Why can't KyoAni admit this was a horrible mistake?? Whyyyyyy??!!! Yamakan was so right... inexcusable to waste a series like this... If it doesn't finish next week.... hair will start being torn out...
Surprised to see you here. (^.^;)
Hey KyoAni, next time you try to rip off Groundhog Day and Higurashi atleast try not fail so bloody much.
I still think there will be 8 episodes of this total.
when will you stop trollin\ KyoAni?
i see the video and i realized they use SAME voice over and over again!
Talk about lazy....
Kyon-kun Denwa
Kyon-kun Denwa
Kyon-kun Denwa
Kyon-kun Denwa
Kyon-kun Denwa
Yea the endless eight is repetitive, but you have to respect the bold decision to get the effect across to viewers. It's not a shortcut either, every episode is entirely redone from the ground up, that's dedication.
Never the less I hope they end the loop soon so we can continue with the rest of the story. I hope they make it all the way through the books.
kyo ani never disappoints to disappoint us..lolz
They should just give the haruhi fans was they all truly want.
Which is for haruhi to become a fully fledged hentai.
Who doesn't want to see that annoying bitch (haruhi) gangbanged? All I see on the net is haruhi related porno, doujins, games etc.
Its time that aya hirano took a big fat cock in the mouth for our enteraintment value.
Fuck haurhi (literally), just give us a porno version.
Anyone else notice the little tanned azusa that accompanied Haruhi at the pool in the most recent endless eight?
I just take solace in the fact that even if they do fit in Disappearance somehow, and even if it is really good, people will always remember season two by this fucking awful Endless Eight arc.
And if they don't include it, or if it's done poorly, they somehow will have accomplished making a huge cashcow like Haruhi into a joke. Impressive in its own right.
Don't you guys realize it till now , THIS IS HOW HARUHI WILL DISAPPEAR! KyoAni's ripping it off for the fanboys to hate it 'til Haruhi becomes so sh*t leaving a very disappointing mark for the series making it eventually vanish into thin air.. as long as KyoAni ain't hearing the phrase "Huh ? who's Haruhi ?" from the media and fanboys , they won't be going anywhere!
=_= my head hurts...
I never bothered to watch the endless arc, so I watched the comparison vid. Trying to listen to five vids at once in a foreign language all at different point in the dialogue is very taxing on the eyes. I'd rather watch all eight seperately than do that again.
no "disappearance of haruhi"?????
TT-TT
TT-TT
TT-TT
screw it
Endless eight is a shit,if they want to do endless eight 8 time why didn't they focus on other event Haruhi did rather then passing the event with some still picture.Kyoani has been trolling with Haruhi since season 1 and I bet e.e trolling is the last we see of it,because kyoani knows no matter how people bitch or complain they are still gonna watch it.
I admit that KyoAni made a big mistake but I'm a bit annoyed at how Kyoto Animation is getting repeatedly bashed on being a horrible animation company. Frankly, Kadokawa Entertainment had some influence in this two.
If you look at Kyoto Animation's past record, they've put out some really good quality anime adapations. K-ON may have been a bit generic but they were working with a 4-koma gag comic.
Kyoto Animation is frankly when they had enough money to sponsor themselves (Clannad After Story). However they sold out to "Kadokawa Entertainment". And we all know Kadokawa US and Kadokawa Japan can be morons at time.
They fucked up and are being cocksuckers simple as that. Like the rest of the Anime industry, they seem to have caught the syndrome self-suicide, like the eroge industry has, starting by shooting themselves in the foot with "Endless Eight".
video has 404ed
OH GOD!!!! 70 bucks for that?! DOES NOT WANT!!
Endless Eight was awesome.
This has just been one gigantic trolling.
im loveing it.. any why arnt people disscussing what kyon has to do to end it?! personly i think he has to tell haruhi that he never wants it to end so he can spend more time with her, her logic would kick in and therefor end the whole thing..no?
/a/ was here, you're all faggots.
@ 4:30am i highly reccomend NOT watching that video while youre lying on your bed. I just dozed off for a minute and thought i had 50 people talking in my head. I was freaking out for a minute till i realized im watching 5 episodes at once.
Although it is funny how little changes they made for the past 5 weeks. It is a complete mindfuck if u want to try to watch that video above with sound.
I don't get the anger XD Who makes you buy those expensive dvds after all?! it's their loss, no need to make such a fuss... I actually find it funny how far they went with this... first everybody cries for second season and is deceived, and now they're like: "you want second season? here, have this! mhahahahaa!!! still want it?"XD i wonder what they'll come up with next... haruhi dissapearing forever?XDD
Eh, whatever. I think this Endless Eight business isn't a big deal. It's not like people don't know when it will end. I've watched all five so far because I've dl the subs, and can't stand letting them go to waste. They really are pretty different, but a waste of time nonetheless. I guess I've wasted my life to not waste bandwidth/hdd. Eh.
By the way, KyoAni comment is total powermove. Hate to say it, but made-Yamakan-their-bitch win.
this 'Endless Eight' shit isn't avant-garde or edgy, it's just a scam! A bullshit tactic to reuse animation, reuse dialogue and produce filler to cover their own production failures. So what if there's a different bikini, or someone sits in a different chair?
Do you honestly believe those episodes took the same amount of labour, time and cost as making a whole episode from scratch? It's cost-cutting with a thin veneer of sci-fi, pure and simple.
2 episodes.. fine. Even 3 might have been acceptable - 1 to show the problem, 2 to expose the deja vu, a third to resolve it. But SIX FUCKING EPISODES?! (or is it more still?) That's bullshit and those pigfuckers deserve the wrath of the community and industry, because it's EXACTLY this sort of slack ass attitude, and taking fans for granted that has dug the industry into its current economic hole.
i pity the fool who buy this crap.
Read the wikipedia Edit about the bastards of Tokyo Animation.
I hope the people at Tokyo Animation get AIDS
Never cared for Haruhi past its music, and probably never will. Kyoani is still godlike in their Key adaptations though.
Go fuck yourself, Key sucks shit. Haruhi is great.
Do you think that you can upload another video of this but with subs in each box?
wtf is with all of them starting with him answering his phone?
KYoAni has fallen. It's now Gonzo#2.
Gonzo >>>>>>>>>>>> KyoAni
KyoAni: "These posts has absolutely nothing to do with our company" - sticks out finger
Fuck you Kyoani, seriously
“This person has absolutely nothing to do with our company.”
That's why I love Kannagi more than Haruhi
Agreed
The real tragedy is that Haruhi Suzumia was an actually good anime in the sea of shit we've been drowning in as of late. If the new season tanks and we get no more, we've got nothing but horrible, obnoxious moe shit to look forward to until it finally crashes.
And if it doesn't, I'm afraid I'll just have to all but give up the medium until it gets its act together.
TMoHS isn't "good" anime.
Kyon-kun, den wa~
Watch the DVDs sales plummet..
The lolz at kyoani are over 9000 :P
I look at it two ways.
Endless Eight is avant garde artistry which could only be born in the unique state of Japan. We learn patience and attention to detail and recognize the power of God Haruhi as she affects our real lives, forcing us to relive days like Nagato and giving us a sliver of the Abject boredom this 2D character must be going through. A sort of homage to the first season's odd airing schedule that could have been reflective of Kyon's sense of normalcy being shattered.
or
KyoAni are a bunch of [expletive deleted] who were looking to exploit a popular franchise with the least amount of work, effectively screwing over everyone who doesn't make a six figure salary.
I'm at war with my inner idealist.
I can understand that the effect that KyoANi seems to be wanting is to project the feeling of boredom that the characters have onto the audience. I also think that KyoAni isn't being as lazy as people say as they are bothering to go through and tediously animate what is essentially the same episode from possibly 8 different angles. However, this "new season" is basically a train-wrecked groundhog day. KyoAni should have never have pulled this shit, and it looks like they are going to be learning the hard way from the apparently large amount of fan backlash. I chalk this one up to a bad idea that somehow made it through to production.
It amuses me to consider that many fans who complain about these Endless Eight episodes would also be Naruto fans. How many of them complain if that studio uses eight episodes to show a battle?
One of the great things about Japanese animation, I believe, is that its artists do sometimes show the confidence to buck the market. Otaku often demonstrate entitlement, that the artists should serve their expectations, without also demonstrating compassion for the commercial constraints their obsession places on their favorite artists. Certainly the KyoAni artists chose their occupation because they enjoy it, just as certainly that their art depends on their commerce, but to live that compromise isn't easy. The anime industry today certainly wouldn't feel their life is an "endless summer", do they? And yet, in 2009 they are making this kind of season of Haruhi Suzumiya.
I suggested before that the studio was adopting the role of Haruhi to otaku as SOS-Dan, but today another parallel feels unavoidable.
Well, of course, it's some of both which is why it's caused so much drama. If they had simply re-aired the episodes identically, then it'd just be lazy. The fact that they're actually re-animating each one means that there's more to it than simply taking the "easy way out". At the same time, this is clearly a way to stretch out the episode count and make the Haruhi anime last longer overall, which could be seen as exploitative.
In the end, I suppose people could simply treat this as filler or re-cap episodes so long as the show resumes along its predicted course at some point. I mean, in the end, assuming most here weren't planning to buy the DVDs anyway (or won't as a result of this), it's simply a delay of what's to come. But, you know, people will still rage anyway.
Apply Occam's Razor to get the answer.
Neither of those is the simplest.
Both have their points.
Pretty much this. Some faggots claim this story arc is bold, but it's really just a way for KyoAni and Kadokawa to make a good deal of money, while doing 50% of the work.
Greed and laziness are simple enough...
Nobody's happy?
kyu-tard is truly all retards?
I really wish for more K-On now.
I love endless eight.
It has the groundhog day vibe wich is good, quality animation and the characters in different outfits. It's amazing.
I hope you're just trolling... =_="
KyoAni, just look what you have done... it's pretty much the same like that boy who drank gasoline.
But you should respect other peoples choice. There always be some really love it ??
I honestly think it's entertaining. Everyone needs to stop whining.
Same kind of person who finds shiny coins fascinating.
Shiny coins are fascinating, along with roses and clouds that have silver linings.
And sand dunes drifting..
And paint peeling...
And run-over possums decaying...
And slowly watching ones life fading away...
...
Oh, and how Dare you compare 'Groundhogs Day' to this abomination?! Have you no honor but to desecrate a great film by comparing it to this crap!?! You truly don't have much of a life do you...
Just kill yourself. Please.
Forlourned:
If you really didn't care about Haruhi, you wouldn't be here. And yet you've posted here numerous times.
Why not just be true to yourself and admit that you're madly in love with the series despite your anguish? You might let off some stress.
Have a nice day! :)
lol so true
No, YOU are amazing XD
if bandai gets (if the still want it) season 2, they better be rewarded by like getting haruhi-chan for free so they can stick like 13 episodes for each release they have to do for E8. because i can see nobody in north america buying this arc otherwise
Ok not having seen anything on this show before can someone explain what's wrong with endless 8 that it's so bad?
In truth i couldn't watch the comparison cause it was scrambling my brain.... XP
Just the fact that the same shit happened 5 times in a row, and there's no character development, no plot development, no development whatsoever going on. It's just the group being shown in a group of compilation videos showing them doing the same things with slight variations.
So they tried for a 1 story from all views kinda thing but fucked it up?
Yea that could be messed up so easily you have to be careful with stuff like that.
Thank you for filling me in though. ^__^
something like that. but yeah, the end is so anticlimactic that's its lulzy.
Does those 5 count toward the 13 new episodes they are supposed to air?
I am 90% sure they count toward the 13 "new" episodes, and it looks like they pulled another arc from the schedule to make sure we get the finger...
If you have seen Higurashi, the premise is similar. Only where Higurashi succeeds in giving you new information and perspective each repeat, Haruhi does not even try. Out of the six or so episodes, the script stays almost exactly the same. You are given a 25 minute episode, with about 5 minutes of new content if you are lucky. The other 20 minutes are the same lines, the same settings, and the same character interactions.
It's a trainwreck, is basically what I am saying.
Solution: Get Ryuukishi07 to write Haruhi...
Still... This was really uncalled for. It's like giving the same damn joke over and over until your totally pissed or totally pissed to the point that your senses get numbed.
to tell you the truth... Endless Eight 2nd repitition was great. It's just that they extended this damn arc too much.
Seeing that there are too many extra eps on endless eight.... They can't let that just go to waste. Which means they MIGHT include them.. still... that's a lot a wasted budget. Do they have infinite moneyz or what?
One thing that's wrong is that you shouldn't tick off ur fans. The more you piss them off the harder they are to please. Only one more step for Kyoani to thin the herd(fanbase) is to give a mediocre ending.
So good luck kyyoani... goood luck.......
I was watching this video of a flame melting ice to watch make a spoon flip over in one of my classes. It was approximately ten minutes long and gave me a good cross section of a generational attention span. What I learned is older people tend to have longer attention spans than younger people. I wonder if Endless Eight also shows this phenomenon? I find myself looking forward to the next episode yet I have a friend who wants it to stop. He is a bit younger than me. If you're not afraid give your approx age and relative attention span.
over 30 : pretty patient
Endless Eight as an otaku's test of courage! Haha!
Closing in on 40: pretty sick of the whole damn crap that kyu-tard has made of '~Haruhi'.
You could be on to something. A lot of the anger about this has to do with the whole "I've been waiting three whole years, and this is what I get?!" factor. To someone in their teens, three years seems like an eternity. As you get older, it's more like "oh, has it been three years already?" That probably also reflects in the controversy that resulted as well, at least to the extent that some people with more patience are able to take a step back and consider the hows and whys of the situation without totally freaking out.
Late-20s: More patient than most, apparently...
Late teens (myself, 19 to be exact): not patient at all.
This theory makes good sense...
did no one notice Nagato is in sukumizu and has finally show some emotion ?
Everbody noticed it... we all noticed that each episodes Nagato is increasingly look bored... we noticed that the de-javu feeling is increasingly more prominent... we noticed that they have different outfit on each episodes... we noticed that Nagato buys different mask everytime... we noticed that the bgm is different everytime.
that doesn't mean it needed this much episodes just to show that... 3 times should be the maximum.. 4 if they want to push it.
I think when they repeat the first time it's cute... the second time I kinda huh?!?... the third time... ... ... I just want them to finish this damn arc so we can move on to a better arc.
I feel bad for those who will buy the DVDs...
Oh you, KyoAni...
f*ck endless eight arc
f*ck kyon looking so lame
f*ck Haruhi for making these loop
f*ck SOS-dan that seems nothing great to do
f*ck kyo-ani for letting these happen
finally i'll f*ck myself for watching these sh*t!
Protip, nobody cares if you actually write the word 'fuck' in Sankaku comments...
I'll f*ck who/whatever you are f*cking.