Family Project ~Kazoku Keikaku~ “Fully Uncensored” Eroge

Misinformation and deceit. What's this nonsense about 1% or 100% uncensored? Its sounds as bad as it smells. Like that shop who sold me an "original" game title that later turned out to be a demo. When I went back he said it was an "Original Demo". Sure use obfuscation and equivocation but its still blatantly deceitful and your customers will remember.

Glad I learnt Japanese so I won't have to put up with these fools.

I recommend fans do the same. It applies to more then mere eroge. That fansub/R1 release you watch or that localised PS3 title, they could be lying through their teeth and you'll never know....

I wasn't going to play this game anyway but I hope that someone makes a patch for the people that did want to play it. It's unfair to the fans when this shit happens and just asking the fans to understand why they had to do this doesn't justify it. Pointless censorship takes away from the enjoyment of the game and I don't see how they expected fans to still want to buy it.

"as fans love to play eroge in English"

Somehow when translated into English the original feeling is lost so NO. "Fans" NEED it in English because they are too fucking lazy to learn Moonspeak. So much for being fans. Not HARDCORE enough.

This wouldn't bother me at all if anyone had actually forced JAST's hand; you do what you gotta do. But in this case they clearly CHOSE to censor their game (adding underwear is censorship, it's not somehow magically distinct "editing"). As someone pointed out in response to Peter Payne's comment, there are plenty of loli releases in the US, so the "but you guys, we HADTA!" excuse is bullshit. The Supreme Court of the United States has weighed in on this, why isn't that good enough for JAST?

It also doesn't help that I purchased a title from JAST that had the two youngest characters with mosaics intact (and this was well before the PROTECT Act, too). I emailed Peter Payne and basically got a response of "oh, that's weird, all our games are uncensored". Uh huh.

Take note Mr. Payne: another potential customer who won't be purchasing any unnecessarily censored titles from your company.

At which address may we contact JAST USA for some rage at them?

wtf i hate when they charge stuff for a international release. i might have gotten this game but unless there is a patch, i will not buy it

This is just a legal move to protect themselves and my doing this they side step any negative problems that may smear the industry. Lets not be unreasonable here. Remember the guy who got twenty for ero comics with supposed underage minors? This is a direct consequence of the case.

Lets not be unreasonable, if you hate it so much petition your congressman or else this will happen for any eroge where the girls don't have huge breasts.

Family Project eh... Well, I've certainly heard some good things about it, but wonder if the art style is a bit too old for me.

The eroge's power is already over 9000!

I'd rather see panties than a mosiac'd pussy, so I don't really care. Wasn't going to buy the game anyway though.

This is NOT an eroge anymore!!!

So why do they need to censor a game that is made for adults?(i mean adding panties and bra)

Aren't adults allowed to see bewbs and cameltoes anymore?

Or is this game allowed for people under the age of 18.

I truly don't understand these needless stupid censor needs.
When it comes to adult you should give them stuff fully uncensored

What to you expect from people who crew up with the fake tits of Pamela Anderson.
When they see anything smaller than that they think is underage and not sexy.

I could forgive being forced to censor by the evil bigots who hold so much sway over our police and criminal justice systems nowadays. Sometimes, you can't just beat them all by yourself.

What I cannot forgive is the false advertising. There is no excuse for then going on to describe the product as 'uncensored', instead of disclosing the nature of the edits so that customers can make an informed decision.

One thing the internet allows me to do with respect to media is to support only reputable companies.

they censored the one that matters?

... Am I the only one who plays these games for the story? :(

Also, is Peter Payne the brother of Max Payne? :D

Fight the power! Be a man Peter! Do the right thing!!!

"you eventually do see her breasts here, so there’s no excuse for this one"

There's no point in sexual censorship at all. I had wathced porn since 8 years old.

The underwear thing kinda sucks. At least they could have gone without adding the bra.

"...don’t try to call it something else to slip it by people."

You're making it sound like it's some big conspiracy to screw over the fans. Like Billy Club said, it's too bad that they had to do it, but apparently they had a reason that they felt was justified. It's their company so they can do what ever the hell they want. Yeah, they may offend some people, but losing the business of a small amount of people based on censoring one game vs. pleasing the vast majority who aren't really bothered that much by it probably isn't much of a concern in the grand scheme of the business.

I've played several games from these guys and they have the occasional typos in the text, the one or two missed graphics that still have a mosaic, and I get a little disappointed but I accept that shit happens.

On another note, that enemy power over 9000 thing was kinda dumb but, as they said, it was supposed to be an inside joke kind of thing and they just forgot to edit it out. No biggie.

My god, are you honestly bringing the bill of rights up in a discussion about a porn game? LOL!

Just wanted to point out, your statement, "Censorship is insidious and yes, it IS always wrong unless there’s a good reason for it." is a contradiction. It is either always wrong or wrong unless there is a good reason.

Who is to determine what a good reason is? Mr. Payne made the decision because of the somewhat unique circumstances of the storyline of this particular game. Either 4 graphics get edited with minor changes to the script, or the story line is edited which can result in more work and more editing.

It's Peter Payne's company. He is doing what he feels is best for his company. It's his call. If it comes down to making a tiny change to a game or risking potential backlash for what could be interpreted by the uninformed as a potential cartoon representation of child porn, he is going to do what is best for his company. I've been playing the game. The scenes are brief and relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of the game. As I said before, it is unfortunate that they had to do it, but unfortunate at most. If this article had never been posted or if you hadn't played the original Japanese version, you never would have known anyway.

The point I was making with the film editing reference was more that, in most cases, you have no idea how much editing goes on before the product is finished. Just look at the deleted scenes, alternate endings, etc. in movies. You don't even know about them until they are included in a DVD or BluRay release.

The harsh reality is that censorship occurs every day, everywhere. The waiter who takes a deep breath and says, "I'm sorry, sir. I'll fix it right away." to a customer who is complaining about an overcooked steak instead of "Tough shit! Eat it or starve!" is censoring themself. Censorship is a part of life. Censorship is a part of life. Without it, full disclosure applies to everything. Everyone knows everything about everyone and everything else. It's unrealistic.

For those who say that they will no longer buy/download any of the games, we will see how long that lasts. The next time they come out with a game you want, you will buy/download it anyway.

Bottom line, It's just a game. Some of the comments make it sound like some of you feel so strong that you think you should march on it and appeal it to the supreme court. Again, it's just a game.

So they don't wanna be attacked by insane govt activists, no problem here.

Simply had to agree that the censorship are definitely not needed , what for censor her breasts with the ' Ooh I need to get heatstroke in order to let the story progress so I have to wear 2 bras ' thing when you have a sex scene with her in the near future ? They might as well cut out the whole Matsuri 's sex scene . And please , if you really played the game , Matsuri ain't anywhere near 18 during the sex scene [ at most 16 / 17 ] .

LOL is this all that was 'altcensored'?

Hacko. 15 minutes (with Photoshoop/GIMP and .packagetype? file editor/s) can save you 15 months or more of waiting for a satisfactory patchfix.\

CG editing...oh wait..