Yamakan Sorry for Endless Eight: “It Was Inexcusable!”
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jul 20, 2009 20:18 JST
- Tags: Events, Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, Production Controversy, Video Gallery, Yamakan
Yutaka Yamamoto, or Yamakan, famed for being the director of the original Haruhi series and formerly with Kyoto Animation, has apologised to fans over the direction the series has taken with the hated Endless Eight arc, calling it “inexcusable.”
His comments were made in a recent interview held at American convention Otakon, visible below:
Important quotes, immediately seized upon by 2ch:
“I knew from a year ago.”
“When I was with Kyoto Animation, this idea was already floating around, I was against to it. I thought 2 episodes was the limit.”
“I feel responsible for this. I’ll say it, I’m prepared to. As a representative of the SOS-Dan production committee, I want to apologise here – this was inexcusable.”
Of course, the validity of an apology on behalf of the makers of Haruhi from someone long since no longer with the company and who can now say whatever he likes is questionable, but it at least shows that at some point the production committee seems to have been taken over by people with a strange idea of how to properly take the series forward…
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I like Endless Eight. But again I like performance and abstract art.
The only actual problem is that all this takes up episodes which could show something else. What would be really awesome is if they showed 16 episodes total (or more) to make up for that arc, keeping the number of "useful" episodes that of a normal season. Not doing that makes it seem they just don't have a story.
Your missing the point. Ever episode should of been "useful" because these shows have LIMITed runs. TWELVE being the norm.
If kyo-turd decides to waste EIGHT out of TWELVE, that leaves only FOUR episode being "useful". Being that the second season had ONE "useful" first episode, that means there will only be THREE left out of the TWELVE in your posting as "useful". Like many in the postings above said; This could of been done in THREE episodes.
--Eight was kyu-tard trying to channel Ooshi's 'Kerebos' in filming at dog's eye level, a dog traveling thru a shanty town for (what felt like) TWENTY-FIVE minutes. Remember that the movie was about SEVENTY minutes long... Or his new anime "Sky Crawler" where you have Anime characters siting and talking for SIXTY minutes about nothing. It worked for 'Seinfeld' because that was truly about nothing, but it doesn't work for "drama". These examples are readly displayed by eurotrash directors filming non-scatagorical madness that film viewer crawl into for a good two hour naps.
Instead, kyu-tard really should of mimicked the works of David Lean and truly made this story more epic in long static drifts and long,.. long shots of the gang as they trudged thru this cycle. It still would only be maxed at around THREE episodes, but would make the viewers fell like it stretched on forever WITHOUT having them wallow thru that ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY Minutes! Real cinematographers would do that, kyu-turd decides to go against type.
Yamakan is not to be blamed, but he should not of apologized for this on-going blandness.
The solution to this problem is to milk it for all it's worth... which is what they're doing now.
Wasting 7 episodes? You got it all wrong, there's going to be a S3, S4, S5, S6, S7, S8, SN.
I mean wow WHAT the hell is this supose to mean guys seriously i was addict to this one but now those last episode make me want to cry jesus its so fucking anoying i mean wow i know what i need to do next episode skip to 10min to see 1 new thing skip to 18:23 to saw another thing and boom switch back to 22.45 for last new thing of a whole episode!!!!!
whoops i sent a new response to 2chan,
It's not at the bottom.
See my response by scrolling up.
I wish these queers would ask him more about his experiences as a young director and starting his own company instead of this stupid Haruhi shit that he has nothing to do with. I was at his first Q&A and his Kannagi focus Q&A and the dumbasses tried to ask the same crap except he declined to comment.
Same screw you goes out to the jackasses asking Masao Maruyama about Trigun One Outs and Black Lagoon. This guy worked under Tezuka and you are asking him about Black Lagoon? Who the hell cares?
Masao Maruyama just a Producer for Madhouse Studios as what was said about his profile.I guess the reason why they ask those stupid Questions is because Mad House made those shows.
ya... the only thing I'm pissed about is that they are wasting so much time on this arc... I wanna see the disappearance T_T, after that they can do whatever they want with it
The possible best way to stall an anime story (without calling it filler content) IS... Drumroll, please! ... "Introduce a time-loop".
It's a time loop people! Be glad they didn't decide to showcase the entire 15,000+ episodes with all of their endless variations of the same events OVER and OVER again.
Hmmm, a better limit would've been no more than 3 episodes. We don't really need to see Kyon screwing up at the last possible moment so many times, now do we?
the true fans stick it thru till the end.
i.e. Dipshit Otaku Moron seeing more in the subsequent episodes that Don't actually happen.
That's what a "true fan" sticks thru for it seems.
The guy who asked the question was absolutely right.
"Why are they making a 30 page story into 6+ episodes?"
Thats what I wanted to ask. Cause I had read the that story and was very un-impressed by it.
i wish the cons in florida were as win as otakon. the high point of metrocon this year was the dealer's room and the epic loli nendoroids i bought.
someone at kyo-ani must die!
someone at kyo-ani must die!
someone at kyo-ani must die!
someone at kyo-ani must die!
Hmmm... I feel there is some sort of scandal-ish thing going on here...
yes i too feel there is something afoot. . . .
lol@ "But it's a SECRET!"
Good thing I hate this shitty anime. I feed on Whoruhi fanboys' tears.
Even The Game says that the current G-Unot album blows.
I thought Yamakan sucked for doing Kannagi. But then again he had been flung out by a SUCK company that doesn't know how to perform blowjobs well. I'm not surprised at all.
haruhi started out great, it is still great mind you, but with the current higher ups in the production staff...
ugh they're even going to make us wait another few years for disapearence i bet...
I like Yamamoto-san, but I'm a little pissed he didn't stay at KyoAni to try to keep THE SIT from hitting THE FAN.
Well, at least he's got Kannagi. Is good.
Also, nice picture FTW.
*facepalm*
"keep THE *SHIT* from hitting THE FAN."
you know, it could have been fine if they played around and snuck in little changes in each of the episodes, enough to make it interesting, you know?
oh yeah, no more endless eight, the neverending story finish!!!! =D
Maybe, just maybe... when episode 8 comes, I might get the urge to revisit the previous loops/episode and say "Genius piece of work! Why didn't I notice that before."
When and if that day comes I'll...
....eat the socks I worn that day!
Endless Eight will be EIGHT episodes long. Probably. Seriously they tried to give us a hint with the eight in the title of the episodes.
I may be a bit pissed and they better pray they have a third season being made right now to be released in the very near future or the haruhi franchise is over with.
As far as the arc goes I kind of like it. Mind you eight episodes is a bit much they would have been better off with no more than 6. Still it isn't like it is bad. It just shouldn't be this long.
As far as Yamakan's apology goes...what apology? He isn't even with the company.
i love the endless night each time they show more ecchi scenes. :)
Which adds up to less than 30 seconds each episode.
Also that each endless night you get more immerse into that day that loops. If you compare each one you can see that the art style and focus changes very so slightly and you get a different feel as for the plot it very even more slightly that you are fooled into believing that it is in fact the same, but its not it see he wants to get closer to Nagato than Haruhi as he gives up each day.
really come on you did it and you can't take it back
Endless Eight reminded me of John Cage's 4'33"
Looks like it try to show the concept of Endless (or Repetition) with Eight variations. While it may be good as experimental visual arts, it really piss people off.
Nice try KyoAni...
I don't even see why anyone would mega super very like this anime in the first place. I mean it is unique in its own way but there is no climax and problems arises out of nowhere. It is too random and it doesn't make sense at all. I like anime only because it is a cross between reality and well not reality. But when things just appear out of nowhere then well ... it is just like Yugioh or Teletubies because they are retarded. Anyone reading this could guess that anyone who likes this anime is without a a doubt a masochist for haruhi. It's just
COME OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
well, in fact I mega super very like to the power of square like this anime. I liked the character the plot and what not. As a proud follower of Haruhiism...I shall never give in to crowd lynching mentality.
How many of you had really sit through the five episode and read the novels in the first place.
You can not like the way it's presented or it's repeated cycles. But saying the plot sucks without really understands it just means you just follow what the mobs says.
MoHS is not random. It actually Due to the lack of a conclusion yet in the form of book 10 a lot of it seems random, but it makes sense. If you're confused by it you're just too stupid to follow the highly convoluted plotline.
Dont worry i know how he feels.
Dont worry i know how she feels.
Dont worry i know how he falls.
Dont worry i know how he feels.
see?
Don't worry be happy.
The fact that Haruhi being pretty loathed recently makes me want to love the franchise back..
your a sad individual, aren't you?
Don't worry about the maid~, watching paint peel is another hobby of its addiction.
All they want is to screw the haruhi fans
How... Dramatic... Well... Job displacement imminent. :)
What's truly hilarious about that video is how he pleaded to the audience in Not releasing anything about what he said.
What's truly hilarious is people not understanding that Yamamoto hasn't worked for KyoAni in over a year - he no longer works for them, and he has nothing to do with the new Haruhi season. He's apologizing to the audience for being fans having to put up with something he expressly told KyoAni was a bad idea.
I was pretty confused with the Endless arc and when the third part came I thought that this will be the end of the latest fucked up three episodes.
But it didn't conclude and now we have to wait like one month for something that might conclude this or make matters worse.
Nope this arc was something I wasn't expecting in the Haruhi franchise so let's up they get their shit together and bring back the real drama.
....wait one month? What? You'll find out in a few days whether endless eight will end or go on to be even more episodes yet..
oh.. I donna-know...
"ENDLESS EIGHT"?
I wonder how many is EIGHT in 8?
EIGHT?
kyo-tard is pretty obvious about how long this slow ass arc will be by deciding to call it..
ENDLESS EIGHT.
Now with that title out of the way, what do you assess on how long "ENDLESS EIGHT" will last?
7 episodes, just to fuck with our heads.
Yutaka wasn't the director of Haruhi. That was Tatsuya Ishihara.
How the fuck could they think it was a good idea to show the same shit over and over ?
um, because Kyoani are 11/10 trolls and love to troll 2ch... endlessly...
I don't give a dime about how many endless eight episodes are aired. What worries me is how many episodes of the novels we WON'T SEE!
By now we'll be lucky if Disappearance is shown at all :( And no, I don't want a 5-episode arc of The Adventures of Asahina Mikuru behind-the-scenes :( Well, I did want it, but now we only have 7 episodes left.
Sigh...
lol Yamakan. He can't even make up his mind wether or not he retired on his own or he was fired.
Oh well it was not really KyoAni's fault either when it was Kadokawa Shoten's idea
Haruhi 3rd saison will come :
endless eight 2nd arc =)
endless sixteen?
nah, that'll be sighs elongated to stupid lengths...
What the fuck! He says sorry but the damage has been done. Haruhi is shit because of this guy!
Huh? You do realize that he hasn't worked for Kyoto Animation in like a year don't you?
I have nothing to add to the conversation, but I just had to let you know I love your avatar. It's so pretty.
He has nothing to do with Haruhi anymore.
This dude directed your beloved Season 1.
He was fired after Episode 4 of Lucky Star.
>>>Haruhi is shit because of this guy!
_|_
care to share why he was fired ?
Because he couldn't make Lucky Star funny enough, and was losing ratings as a result
No reason has been stated. All we know is that HE WAS fired.
SnooSnoo get your facts straight. He's not a member of the committee anymore, and it is precisely what partly contribute toward the seemingly endless Endless Eight (aka one less person in the committee to oppose the idea).
>Anon
Yamamoto got fired was Lucky Star related, and it had nothing to do with Haruhi.
>SnooSnoo
Right...so you are telling me that it's better to have ONE LESS person in the committee against the six episodes Endless Eight idea than having ONE MORE person in the committee against it?
I don't know what to say...if such simple logic eludes you.
Lol @ Marine, your logic eludes me but w/e. :D:D:D:D:D:D
That doesn't make any sense.
So it's his fault he got fired and the new director decided to loop the same thing 6 times?
well, he clearly dun even understand english =p
Wait, he's not longer with the company?
So he isn't responsible for endless eight anyway? Then I don't want a apology from this guy, he didn't do anything wrong.
He apologized because, as the director of the first season of the show, he feels some responsibility for what happens to it, even though he has to influence on what occurs with the second (and any ensuing) seasons.
You are right. He left KyoAni during the time of Lucky Star (not sure if he was fired, or if he freed up and left because of KyoAni openly declared that he not reach the standard of being a director on their website as part of the apologie for Lucky Star episode 1-4 being not interesting/directed poorly). He WAS part of the SOS-Dan production committee during series 1, but I don't think he is anymore (since he long left KyoAni).
I think in this interview, he is apologising 'on behalf' of the SOS-Dan production committee (rather than representing them) because he WAS a member and he felt that he is partly responsible because he failed to stop the idea of endless Endless Eight being put forward when he was still with KyoAni. The man tried, but not much he could have been done when he was not longer with the company.
While Yamamoto was not skillful enough to direct an anime title that's a adaptation of a 4 koma/panels manga (it ain't easy, since it does not have a straight forward plot like most normal manga do), but he has proven his ability as a director with Kannagi.
Reflectia and Kaze you guys are bashing the wrong guy.
Regardless of what happened, I still think Yamamoto deserves applause for coming up with the Haruhi and Lucky Star dance.
and kannagi OP dance too
I know. But that dance wasn't popular to the level of Haruhi and Lucky Star dances which got hundreds to thousands of people imitating...which was why I didn't mention it.
I thought the first 4 Lucky Star episodes were really good, which is why I brought the Vol. 1 DVD release for him to sign at Otakon. I missed the Q&A panels but overall I found his work pretty awesome.
Like sasae-san, it takes a particular individual to enjoy a show like 'Lucky Star' and seriously, as a watcher of all of it. I found it to be mostly dull and would skip thru the show till the end show with the prissy young bitch and the long suffering co-host. The pay off on that was when he finally blew and tore up the studio!
The singing dude was also humorous, but again. Out of 24+ minutes, I could only enjoy 3~6 minutes? That was not a game winner in my book and bandai releasing it here is a sure fire loss on their side in my opinion.
True. Lucky Star episode 1 to 4 wasn't 'bad', but it wasn't exactly giving any 'wows!' to the viewers...therefore it did not 'qualify' in KyoAni's scale. I still remember back then on various anime forums, many people that were 'taste-testing' Lucky Star considering dropping (watching) the show. But after the director got switched from Yamamoto to Yasuhiro Takemoto (the guy that directed Full Metal Panic: Fumoffu and The Second Raid), the show really did improve and became much more entertaining.
Putting that aside, I'm still amazed that KyoAni really thought the fans will silently open up their mouth and swallow the bxllshxt that are being thrown at them. Really...they should have taken a poll or survey from novel readers before deciding how many episode to do for the Endless Eight.
so the first 4 episodes of Lucky Star was not good enough but now this team of Endles shit is better or what ??
I have the exact same thought as you Anon. Even the first 4 episodes of Lucky Star had better effort being put into it than the current Endless Eight joke.
QFT.
yup and anyway when he was in the project he was against making th endless eight arc more than 2 chapter long.
That's why we can't have nice things. ;_;
Yahhh, I can just imagine... a whole DVD dedicated to Endless Eight... or make that two. Such a rip off.
HA! Maybe a possible Two DVDs worth here in America, but guess what's in store for the Japanese.
Two episodes in ONE DvD! That's how they roll since the DVD came out, in fact I know that they tried just ONE in the beginning but even there, the Otakus where leery about that and stopped buying it. So to sooth their (already)ruffled slacks they started to release Two and everybody was happy again...
Yah... they're morons to their urges.
They'll have to beat that to compete with streaming eps from other series. Haruhi 2 is weak enough in endless 8 that fans simply will not pay on that scale. And once you motivate an otaku to skip on a series, that sale is pretty much gone forever.
Japanese DVDs only have 2 episodes per release. Meaning this is now into the third DVD... And they cost about 40 bucks...
Haruhi who...?
_former fan.
To hell! What done is done already, and he's not the only responsibles!
Only hope that the next one is the last one!
I wish this summer would last forever.
Dude, dont!!!
if any 1 here is haruhi or god plz rewind time and make endless eight realy only 2 eps and the person that thought endless eight should hav mor then 2 eps needs to die
3 eps would be ok - the first time it would be new, the 2nd time you'd be like wtf, the 3rd time you'd be slightly annoyed, but incredibly relieved when it all came to an end.... the way it is now is... interesting in a weird way, if you consider that I don't mind watching paint dry before going to bed.
endless eight is endless
What is an "Endless Eight"?
Too late, the troll is well fed and is now ready to be cooked.
cookied?
WTF IS AN ENDLESS EIGHT!?
"Please do not feed the troll"
It's a trick statement. The trolls are the guys who think Endless Eight is good.
DIE
DIE AGAIN
Revive again
REVIVE
Don't worry Anon, I don't watch this either so have nfi.
(The Endless dying: anyone else reminded of a certain witch/gameplay mechanic in Umineko no Naku Koro ni?)
Please do not feed the troll
I only like the beginning part of Endless Eight, where Kyon's sister says, "Kyon-kun, denwa."
Oh God I want to raep her so much.
It's okay, I'm sure that some day they will dub it so you can see it to
Endless Eight was awesome. I don't see why you retards aren't liking it.
I agree with first anonymous. So far, I'm still waiting for episode 2 of season 2, because they haven't made any more yet and I refuse to accept that Endless Eight is part of SHnY.
lame anime continue endlessly, makes good anime unable to release...
It's going to be Eight episodes.
I'm calling it here and now.
Endless Eight is FOREVER!
im pretty sure endless eights is ending
yah know
kyon thinks about planes and the recent one had haruhi repeatedly saying(paraphrasing here) "i had tomorrow set aside, but you can stay home if you like."
They try to stall it in some manners...