“Weak Men & Strong Women Mean 25% Will Never Marry”

There are already services like this; aka host clubs.

He didn't specify, and I was just asking.
No need to get your panties in a twist.

:D

Eh, she gives off the old frigid spinster vibe.

http://questing.wordpress.com/2006/12/25/agnes-chan/

She is married to a Japanese and has kids...

That's true.

First off, I think that it's not as bad as people say it is in regard to Chinese and Japanese women money-grabbing. I can't speak for Japan, but I lived for a short period of time in China with some girls, and they were mostly very sweet and kind. They weren't at all what I would call "money grabbing".

In regard to the other stuff, I have to say, being a woman myself, that women in general do not go for the 'bad type'. There is a certain type of girl that is attracted to that type, that is true. But those girls you can usually spot right away, they're the obnoxious, loud, superficial type. Chances are, if they're attention seekers, they're probably into the 'bad boy'.

All the girls I hang out with tend to like nice guys. And sure, I'm not going to deny that girls like good looking guys. But what I've found is that if you can impress a girl with your personality (especially if you're funny), you start to look better and better. I once started out not finding this one guy attractive at all, but the more he talked to me, the more physically attractive he became. I ended up falling head over heels for him. I can't explain why it happens, but it just does. And my friend, she's really pretty and she's one of the kindest people I know, and she only likes nerdy, sweet guys.

Don't generalize the way girls act. There are different types of girls, like there are different types of guys, and we don't all like the same types.

Which is why I said..

'Any confident, smart and beautiful woman would prefer a healthy and rewarding relationship.. instead of a ‘foolish’ one..'

and also why I kept on stating 'most', 'some'..

and.. as my friend once said..

'If you don't like what is on the outside, it is very unlikely you will bother looking in the inside..'

I never once truly generalized women, as I have enough common sense to know that not all women are the same ~

The generalization goes both ways. We can't really assume that women like good or bad but from my experience it is a random mix.

Anyway, the article itself does say that passive men are a factor. Though you could say that it is because women aren't attracted to them it's probably as they said, they won't approach women. I think the thing that should be asked is why aren't the women approaching nice guys who are to timid to treat them badly, supposedly? I think that the expectation of an "aggressive" attitude in men is the problem, whether it is approaching women or being a "bad boy".

Seems I forgot this was Sankaku Complex ~_~..

in case I get any hate for trying to act as if I understand women..

moar loli... ~

'Most' women are attracted to bad guys.. you cannot deny it, whether you like it or not ~

Some due to their low self-esteem, some due to their low capacity for intimacy, or some just because their personal characteristics i.e. maternal, care giver etc..

but.. that doesn't mean that their attraction will always lead them to 'go after' the bad boys, although when they are young ~_~.. Any confident, smart and beautiful woman would prefer a healthy and rewarding relationship.. instead of a 'foolish' one..

If you guys knew women who go for 'bad guys' its better just to stay away ~ they are drama queens ~_~.. ~ but that doesn't mean all women are like that ~

p.s. You could also say ~ Women are mildly masochistic by nature ~ but that might start a debate.

This coming from someone who has had no relationship to either...

Except there have been quite a few polls recently, showing exactly how greedy Japanese women are. They are even housed here on the Complex for your own viewing.

Also, if you are going to call someone fucking stupid; at least learn the difference between your and you're. Reject.

And Japanese women are fucking angels huh, fool. Little boy and his rose tinted lenses.

They are actually beautiful, compared to Chinese
women of course. Take your own advise and buy
a pair of glasses if you have trouble
comprehending reality out there.

The polls are only of a few thousand in ONE area. They are often also taken by just one specific magazine. The girls who read Seventeen mag probably aren't like the girls who read Time, or Health and Fitness, or no magazine at all.

Your fucking stupid.

This is a reality, dipshit.

Chinese women are greedy pigs.

^Lmfao.

"-That bit about revealing your joker before your game? Er, those women were voting in an anonymous poll from some magazine that presumably its main target audience is women."

About that; I agree that it's an anonymous poll and that the main target audience are women. Yet, most of SC's readers are not even in Japan and we can see the results to that poll, whether the magazine was only aimed towards the female audience or everyone didn't change that. The concerned voters being generalized as 'Japanese women'... The fact it's anonymous means people won't be able to know who actually voted like that or not, which can affect/bother people. That's what I meant with the joker card, since the men won't even take the initiative now that they believe such things too easily; so the 'bad' women won't even get a chance to abuse their husband money-wise (of course, this might not be a big issue, but I doubt it didn't influence any male).

I'm not trying to make this a big issue or something over dramatic, but if the poll had the opposite results (about how much they allow their husbands to spend), the future husbands and such would have been fooled far more, and would have seen no problem with marriage.

Of course, love overcomes all, as money does not even matter then. That is, if there is any true love, of course.

This is just something what i heard and actualy saw.
Women that are treated nice usualy demand more from you and betray,cheat on you.Women that are treated like shit are loyal,don't cheat on you,love you so much that it actualy scares me when i really saw that.
Though it won't work on all women but probably on the most.

You can see feminists in such a light,being treated too good,they keep doing bad things.

As an addition to Fonzer's post, this is because women don't like nice guys. They go after the criminals, the wife beaters, the players.
Of course they'll say they want the "kind, sensitive, caring, romantic" type. All the women's rags say the same, but it's complete bullshit.
This is why I'll never marry; I don't really feel like being "that guy". The only other alternative is being an emotional hand towel, which is just as shitty.

Better to work at a fairly low stress job all my life, and live for myself. It's not like I can't still get laid without a wife.

Seriously, there are all kinds of people in both Japan and China, anyone claiming differently is obviously foolish. Personally I have nothing but good experiences with either country.

Fonzer and Chris; You need to stop being a paranoid idiots. Do either of you even know any women?

Also, I agree that this is mainly related to overlong work hours, lack of kindergartens (in a country where marriage = kids) and a lack of arrangements for maternety leave.

Yes, but that leads to people taking it as a prime example and they will believe it's the case for every woman in Japan.

They see it as a big risk to take, so they probably rather keep their money to themselves, and if they want some love, they get a prostitute and a love hotel for a one nighter.

Polls are over-trusted by the majority of the public; I don't know if this one would be the same results all across Japan, but the women who answered are idiots. That's basically revealing your joker before you even start a relationship, eugh.

That's what I was trying to get to with what I said; but Loli Star and Anon#2 might not have noticed.

In my case, i just thought Loli Star sounded like an idiot with very little real life experience of either Japanese or Chinese women.

I am not for or against the previous few post but just some comments against these few points:

-People who believe in everything they read without experiencing it themselves are idiots (not talking about some deep science of course). That includes people who believe in all the polls or people who watch some anime and think Japan is all that is hyped.

-I don't think that many people trust those polls (I am referring to previous articles which cite those polls) anyway. Some of those polls were taken by women readers from certain magazines and those results were also published in those magazines. Not many men is going to read those magazines.

-That bit about revealing your joker before your game? Er, those women were voting in an anonymous poll from some magazine that presumably its main target audience is women.

-This time round it isn't some random poll but a study done by a journalist and sociologist.

Anyway personally I think it is just the companies overworking their employees. It is not unusual to have people clocking in 10 hours. How do you get a life with that kind of working conditions?

Loli Star is being kinda stupid. Its already pretty widely known that japanese women look for welloff men above anything else. And chinese women are oppressed and treated like shit. I'm also a little concerned about loli star's age. I read a comment posted by him on a forum where he stated he was alive and lived through the 60's. Making him a creepy 50 y.o. pedo.

Agreed, I doubt very many Japanese would want to marry non-Japanese people. You're going to need money, charisma, power, and/or status on your side to have an easier time wooing someone. And gods forbid they marry someone who is of a darker shade of skin tone.

really?

what about the large portion of japanese living in brazil?

And the Japanese in America or Europe? Duh, we are obviously only talking about Japanese in Japan. Japanese who chose to live somewhere else have done so for their own reasons.

The Japanese who decided to leave Japan made a good choice, if you want my opinion

Gaijin means the outsider.

And depends on what you mean popular and among who. Popular as in among all women and that they want to marry them? Probably not. Popular as in amongst girls who dig foreigners and just for sex? Probably.

Mexican, wth?

Time to bring in more sociological studies...