Comments on: Tales of Vesperia PS3 vs Xbox 360: Xbox Higher Resolution! http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/ Anime, manga and games, observed from Japan Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:53:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-515944 Anonymous Thu, 20 May 2010 17:33:28 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-515944 Nah, looks like one of these cheap f2p mmorpgs. ^^ Nah, looks like one of these cheap f2p mmorpgs. ^^

]]> By: TheBeast http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-447107 TheBeast Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:58:41 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-447107 that is namco for you. they want people with the xbox to feel better about getting the shaft on all the additional content. but they are pissing off the ps3 owners too. they should at least try to do a good job when they have a chance. that is namco for you. they want people with the xbox to feel better about getting the shaft on all the additional content. but they are pissing off the ps3 owners too. they should at least try to do a good job when they have a chance.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-311356 Anonymous Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:16:05 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-311356 LMFAO. I love when people take such a high and mighty attitude on people they don't know. Both my current girl, -and- myself love playing rpgs. We also like going out and having fun with friends. What's your "oh so experienced" advice for us? LMFAO. I love when people take such a high and mighty attitude on people they don't know. Both my current girl, -and- myself love playing rpgs. We also like going out and having fun with friends. What's your "oh so experienced" advice for us?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-311226 Anonymous Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:23:05 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-311226 You mean that router looking thing that I haven't played since 6 months ago? Yea, it's foolish to think one could best that >_> You mean that router looking thing that I haven't played since 6 months ago? Yea, it's foolish to think one could best that >_>

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-304135 Anonymous Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:54:00 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-304135 How about all us PS3 people look at the bigger picture, be happy your finally getting a port of this game. There is a shitload of added content, so you'll have more fun than those who played it on 360. The graphics are just graphics, it still looks good enough to play not like it looks like PS1 or anything. And the only thing that makes the picture comparison discredited is the fact that you have a day and night picture and a different weapon. Not saying you don't know your stuff and its the not the developers fault for being lazy, but that's pretty much the real reason you can't really say okay he's right. Just get new screen caps and shut everyone up for good. How about all us PS3 people look at the bigger picture, be happy your finally getting a port of this game. There is a shitload of added content, so you'll have more fun than those who played it on 360.

The graphics are just graphics, it still looks good enough to play not like it looks like PS1 or anything. And the only thing that makes the picture comparison discredited is the fact that you have a day and night picture and a different weapon. Not saying you don't know your stuff and its the not the developers fault for being lazy, but that's pretty much the real reason you can't really say okay he's right. Just get new screen caps and shut everyone up for good.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-297471 Anonymous Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:46:46 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-297471 Holy shit there is some very pathetic 360 fanboyism on this site. Holy shit there is some very pathetic 360 fanboyism on this site.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-286213 Anonymous Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:40:53 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-286213 Good game PS3 RULES, thing u gotta enough hentai on your site? lol Good game PS3 RULES, thing u gotta enough hentai on your site? lol

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-266351 Anonymous Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:59:23 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-266351 Lol you guys are pathetic. The only thing you can say is....the ps3 isn't up to par with the 360 in the graphics department....YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS. Have fun ranting on this page because everyone here knows the ps3 version is far more superior than the 360 version, and that is fact. Have a nice day Lol you guys are pathetic. The only thing you can say is....the ps3 isn't up to par with the 360 in the graphics department....YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS. Have fun ranting on this page because everyone here knows the ps3 version is far more superior than the 360 version, and that is fact. Have a nice day

]]> By: COSMO http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-264639 COSMO Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:07:59 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-264639 I agree with tarbis.. I think most of the game developers haven't fully use the capability of PS3 engines yet. Rumors that it's quite "tricky" to use PS3 graphic program so most of the developers become "lazy" to try develop a prefect graphic resolution for PS3. But for Tales of Vesperia.. I think we still have hope, because they vastly improved the game's story, character and bonuses, so it's quite logic that they will try to improve the graphic quality as well. The graphic comparison presented here only for the demo right? I don't think that would suffice as a comparison until the real deal is out. I agree with tarbis.. I think most of the game developers haven't fully use the capability of PS3 engines yet. Rumors that it's quite "tricky" to use PS3 graphic program so most of the developers become "lazy" to try develop a prefect graphic resolution for PS3.

But for Tales of Vesperia.. I think we still have hope, because they vastly improved the game's story, character and bonuses, so it's quite logic that they will try to improve the graphic quality as well. The graphic comparison presented here only for the demo right? I don't think that would suffice as a comparison until the real deal is out.

]]> By: tarbis http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-263043 tarbis Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:41:58 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-263043 It's only obvious that PS3 gets stupid broken resolution. Bamco never used the PS3 engine to make the game. It's in PC environment ported to PS3. All multiplat games that was on PS3 gets broken resolution. While all PS3 game that was made using the PS3 engine gets solid 720 or 1080p. Take Bamco's Ridge Racer 7 for instance, it runs on smooth 1080p. It only goes to show that Bamco is lazy to make use of PS3 engine when they can. It's only obvious that PS3 gets stupid broken resolution. Bamco never used the PS3 engine to make the game. It's in PC environment ported to PS3. All multiplat games that was on PS3 gets broken resolution. While all PS3 game that was made using the PS3 engine gets solid 720 or 1080p.
Take Bamco's Ridge Racer 7 for instance, it runs on smooth 1080p.
It only goes to show that Bamco is lazy to make use of PS3 engine when they can.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-261141 Anonymous Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:17 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-261141 like all the multiplatform games for the ps3 like all the multiplatform games for the ps3

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-254058 Anonymous Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:09:37 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-254058 lol weapon compared not even the same with the ps3 having the much slimmer weapon lol weapon compared not even the same with the ps3 having the much slimmer weapon

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-231097 Anonymous Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:47:45 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-231097 PC superior? I was but not is None of you morons would use your brain or do some checking. In the 80s there was a huge crash in video game industry and North America was heavily struck. The Japanese people managed to make video game revive, but the result is that most games are released on consoles. Why? Because Microsoft & Apple are both American, not Japanese. Fuck to your PS3/XBOX superior theories. PC is just now suffering the aftermath of that huge crash. Doesn’t mean it is dead or will never heal. Also, why Microsoft is releasing games on xbox? Because the PC has been trying to reclaim its status since the crash but never really succeeded, so… In the past it was JAPANESE CONSOLES COMPETING each other, DC, GBA, PS, PS2,Saturn, pc never had a chance to beat them. Now you get xbox. Stupid westerners, one more day you support PS3, one more day you are slowing down Western world to reclaim their status in Video Game Industry. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172266 The Japanese have realized that their industry is now sick and needs reform bur you foreigners are still supporting! You are even more stupid !! PC superior? I was but not is
None of you morons would use your brain or do some checking.
In the 80s there was a huge crash in video game industry and North America was heavily struck.
The Japanese people managed to make video game revive, but the result is that most games are released on consoles.
Why? Because Microsoft & Apple are both American, not Japanese.

Fuck to your PS3/XBOX superior theories. PC is just now suffering the aftermath of that huge crash. Doesn’t mean it is dead or will never heal.

Also, why Microsoft is releasing games on xbox?
Because the PC has been trying to reclaim its status since the crash but never really succeeded, so…

In the past it was JAPANESE CONSOLES COMPETING each other, DC, GBA, PS, PS2,Saturn, pc never had a chance to beat them. Now you get xbox.

Stupid westerners, one more day you support PS3, one more day you are slowing down Western world to reclaim their status in Video Game Industry.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172266

The Japanese have realized that their industry is now sick and needs reform bur you foreigners are still supporting! You are even more stupid !!

]]> By: ChaosAngelZero http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-230344 ChaosAngelZero Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:27:28 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-230344 Can't help but agree with the sword point. The comparison isn't immediately clear because of this and the day/ night difference. The image file format thing I don't think really affects the perception in a dramatic way, but even then they're indeed compressing them too darn much. JPEG compression can be much lower and the resulting image quite a bit clearer than this... Can't help but agree with the sword point. The comparison isn't immediately clear because of this and the day/ night difference.

The image file format thing I don't think really affects the perception in a dramatic way, but even then they're indeed compressing them too darn much. JPEG compression can be much lower and the resulting image quite a bit clearer than this...

]]> By: ChaosAngelZero http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-230277 ChaosAngelZero Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:19:07 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-230277 It's actually both. It seems like most Xbox 360 titles use a 2×MSAA or 4×MSAA (multisample antialiasing) solution (with optional blur <b>Or</b> edge-smoothing filters depending on the occasion), while most PlayStation 3 games use Quincunx AA, which already has a blurring effect. You can check this out: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241 It's actually both. It seems like most Xbox 360 titles use a 2×MSAA or 4×MSAA (multisample antialiasing) solution (with optional blur Or edge-smoothing filters depending on the occasion), while most PlayStation 3 games use Quincunx AA, which already has a blurring effect.

You can check this out: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229881 Anonymous Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:40:15 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229881 It looks like anti-aliasing, NOT resolution, that's different. It looks like the 360 version is using 4x while the PS3 version is only using 2x anti-aliasing. It looks like anti-aliasing, NOT resolution, that's different. It looks like the 360 version is using 4x while the PS3 version is only using 2x anti-aliasing.

]]> By: InfiniteNine http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229848 InfiniteNine Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:19:13 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229848 I played the demo and I didn't have problems with the visuals at all. I was just glad the models didn't look like dolls like in Eternal Sonata. What are the qualms with the load times? It was pretty much a split second load from map to battles which I found very surprising since it's a port from the 360. 360 -> PS3 ports have a bad track record regarding loading times, but this was beautifully optimized so far and loaded very quickly. Content to me is a strong story, wonderful design, and great game play. If you where to evaluate this version of the game with resolution and loading time criteria, I'd use a full version as opposed to an old build of the game, but seeing as you're talking about people who have played the game before, their criteria should be the new material available to them and if it is worth it to them. It shouldn't matter if it runs slightly in a sub-HD resolution. If that is what really matters to them do they really even like the game that much? I haven't really played a Tales of game, but this seems fine for me I'm not a graphics whore. If the gameplay is fun that is fine for me. I'd love to see it localized as my friend was telling me the skits where very entertaining when he played the game on his 360. I'm glad this is getting ported as I don't have a 360, and there are few games available on it that I actually want that isn't available to me on the PS3 already. (SO4 and Lost Odyssey are the games I want 360 wise.) I played the demo and I didn't have problems with the visuals at all. I was just glad the models didn't look like dolls like in Eternal Sonata. What are the qualms with the load times? It was pretty much a split second load from map to battles which I found very surprising since it's a port from the 360. 360 -> PS3 ports have a bad track record regarding loading times, but this was beautifully optimized so far and loaded very quickly.

Content to me is a strong story, wonderful design, and great game play. If you where to evaluate this version of the game with resolution and loading time criteria, I'd use a full version as opposed to an old build of the game, but seeing as you're talking about people who have played the game before, their criteria should be the new material available to them and if it is worth it to them. It shouldn't matter if it runs slightly in a sub-HD resolution. If that is what really matters to them do they really even like the game that much?

I haven't really played a Tales of game, but this seems fine for me I'm not a graphics whore. If the gameplay is fun that is fine for me. I'd love to see it localized as my friend was telling me the skits where very entertaining when he played the game on his 360. I'm glad this is getting ported as I don't have a 360, and there are few games available on it that I actually want that isn't available to me on the PS3 already. (SO4 and Lost Odyssey are the games I want 360 wise.)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229767 Anonymous Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:47:09 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229767 Resolution and Load Time affect how you experience the content of the game. Both of which appear inferior to the 360 version. Thus, they are relevant for evaluating the content of the game for multi-platform owners. More so, if they have already finished the 360 version. Resolution and Load Time affect how you experience the content of the game. Both of which appear inferior to the 360 version.

Thus, they are relevant for evaluating the content of the game for multi-platform owners. More so, if they have already finished the 360 version.

]]> By: InfiniteNine http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229615 InfiniteNine Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:18:56 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229615 Using different architectures plays into this quite a bit, as well as the RAM not being unified. Namco Bandai has made a 100% capable game on he PS3 before. It's a Naruto game, but it looks/runs fantastic. The problem is using the 360 as the lead platform for development and porting to the PS3, which is more difficult than the other way around from what some developers say. There is still some time to optimize the code for this port and fix this, but I miss days when people judged things by the content and enjoyment of their games, and not of their resolution. I played the demo and I'll pick it up per my friends suggestion. Using different architectures plays into this quite a bit, as well as the RAM not being unified. Namco Bandai has made a 100% capable game on he PS3 before. It's a Naruto game, but it looks/runs fantastic. The problem is using the 360 as the lead platform for development and porting to the PS3, which is more difficult than the other way around from what some developers say. There is still some time to optimize the code for this port and fix this, but I miss days when people judged things by the content and enjoyment of their games, and not of their resolution. I played the demo and I'll pick it up per my friends suggestion.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229595 Anonymous Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:48:42 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229595 I think he's referring to the demo testers that was quoted in the article. I think he's referring to the demo testers that was quoted in the article.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229594 Anonymous Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:43:44 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229594 There might be a bit more then a loli bonus character. But i'm waiting for the early preorder fans to confirm it before I decide if I'll pick up a copy. I'm a little harder to please because i've done the 360 version already and a single bonus character isn't as impressive as you might think. Imagine if they released a bonus character/dungeon/event for any older RPG you've played. Are you going to replay/rebuy it? If so, there are going to be lots of easy money to make for companies. There might be a bit more then a loli bonus character. But i'm waiting for the early preorder fans to confirm it before I decide if I'll pick up a copy.

I'm a little harder to please because i've done the 360 version already and a single bonus character isn't as impressive as you might think.

Imagine if they released a bonus character/dungeon/event for any older RPG you've played. Are you going to replay/rebuy it? If so, there are going to be lots of easy money to make for companies.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229592 Anonymous Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:38:59 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229592 I think those are older drives yes. The newer ones could be faster. I think those are older drives yes. The newer ones could be faster.

]]> By: ManaYagami http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229562 ManaYagami Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:37:29 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229562 Actually, I have a BD-RW for the computer and it's access speed is a lot higher than the speed of my Pioneer DVD+/-RW, so it's a limitation only on the part of the PS3 and not of the BD technology itself. Actually, I have a BD-RW for the computer and it's access speed is a lot higher than the speed of my Pioneer DVD+/-RW, so it's a limitation only on the part of the PS3 and not of the BD technology itself.

]]> By: ManaYagami http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/18/tales-of-vesperia-ps3-vs-xbox-360-xbox-higher-resolution/#comment-229559 ManaYagami Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:31:48 +0000 http://www.sankakucomplex.com/?p=19954#comment-229559 Another one! /facepalm Another one!

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