Japan’s vibrant porn industry is terrified of the draconian nature of the impending loli ban, which not only threatens to ban much 2D material, but also threatens to eviscerate the world of Adult Video with its potentially draconian stipulations.
Porn makers worry that they will be forced to avoid any material featuring girls of marketable age in case they turn out to be underage, and that amateur pornography will be completely illegal as participants will need to all prove their age.
Those pushing the ban also demand any suggestion of a child result in the work being considered child pornography, which could mean any use of a school uniform could result in arrest…
The Diet is currently considering the details of laws which will attempt to criminalise “simple possession” of materials featuring erotic depictions of underage participants (distribution and production of such material is already strictly banned); 2D material has seemingly won a temporary reprieve, but the AV industry is deeply concerned that it will immediately bear the brunt of the new laws.
AV producers recount tales of being duped into making child pornography by lying minors, who are subsequently feted as victims whilst police prosecute the company:
“There was a case of a 16-year-old girl who stole her sister’s ID in order to appear in a porno, but the one who was arrested was the CEO of the company, for making child porn, with the girl being the ‘victim’. That seems to be fraud to us, but in the eyes of the state she was a ‘child’”.
The problem is made worse by the fact that Japan’s proposed law will consider any material featuring participants below (or possibly merely apparently below) 18 to be “children”, whereas more sensible jurisdictions (though not all) make at least some distinction between 16-year-olds and 12-year-olds.
Ambitious proponents of the ban even seek to have any material “apparently” featuring potential minors banned, which would mean that so much as a whiff of a school uniform would result in criminal sanctions, destroying much of the AV industry overnight.
The issue is so acute that some in the industry lament that “Soon we may only be able to make material featuring MILFs (“jukujo”; attractive mature ladies)”.
Another issue is that amateur productions, and perhaps even the videos of individuals, will have to obtain identification from all participants demonstrating that they are over 18, which in many genres of pornography may prove difficult.
Accidentally including any minors, or perhaps even being accused of including a minor and being unable to identify that person, may result in severe criminal charges.
There is also much concern that merely being sent such material, or seeing it in passing on the Internet, may result in a serious offence, a concern exacerbated by the fact that material which possesses no clear provenance may be freely interpreted as illegal.
Via Cyzo.
It remains to be seen whether Japan’s enormous, hugely profitable and presumably well connected porn industry will be able to mount any opposition to the laws; already AV makers and adult magazines are speaking out against the provisions, a far cry from the pathetically supine response of the otaku industries…
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Last resort....
sell Loliporn in net with passwords... the internet is our last frontier for us outlaws....
to all banners of loli porn: May you all go to hell's 5th level and burn to crisp with your families and children! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
save the loli's >.<;
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!! :(
Must ... have ... lolicon pronz, i honestly hope this will never be implented and that the moralfags that rather go about fixing rights for internet girls instead of helping real people in africa or real rape victims rather then focusing on banning this just gets a grip and dies in a fire.
Off to download some
WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE THIS INDUSTRY?! MY FELLOW OTAKUS AND FELLOW WEABOOS ALIKE, WE MUST HELP DEFEND JAPAN FROM THE EVIL THAT IS FASCIST MORALITY!!! THERE IS NOTHING MORE OF A HYPOCRISY THAN A MORALIST WHO FORBIDS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!
WHY ARE WE KEEPING OUR RAGES INSIDE US, CHATTING WITH OTHER ANONS LIKE IT WAS ANOTHER ORDINARY DAY??
IF WE DO NOT ACT, WE WILL BE THE SAME AS SPINELESS JAPAN WHO CANNOT EVEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THESE F*UCKING FASCISTS!!
I SAY, WE FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!
I SAY, WE BEGIN OUT OWN REVOLUTION!!
I SAY, WE FIGHT DA POWA!!!
WHO'S WITH ME?! THE NEW FACE OF THE INTERNET!!
shit, first the anime and loli market and now av.
what's with these Japanese lawmakers, haven't they got anything else better to do like fix the economy or address the nation's faltering birth rates and decreasing population.
....
never mind, due to the demise of porn and av, rape can probably solve at least some of those problems.
I guess this is what Aso has been talking about all this time. The otaku tourism isn't about buying anime, manga and/or merchandising. It's about raping their women and their teenagers so that they have plenty of people in 20 years to pay for the shit that they are doing right now.
I would just like to mention too , for some of us its not about being pro or anti loli, its about being anti-censorship. I think its possible to not like loli but see that these bans or completely unreasonable.
^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed anoying that pretty would kill any artistic idea known so far
Just to note made a few typos
"^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed *annoying and that it would pretty much kill any artistic idea know so far"
There goes them schoolgirls... DAMN YOU AGNES-CHAN!
WTF? Are there even any underaged girls in AV (ADULT VIDEO) right now? Isn't that ALREADY not allowed?? The only idol I can think of that even posed topless before 18 was FUKO, and I think she was 17 when she did that, and now she's in gravure and not AV.
In the US you are a sex offender if you are under age and take nude pictures of yourself. Next if are over the age of 18 and look under the age of 18 you will be taken out and shot, because the law via inane modern society dose not have a place for you.
God I miss the days when a crime was something listed and vague.......
reading about things like this makes me sick to my stomach. the only condolence I can find in this is that if the ban goes through and the Japanese economy suffers, at least the lawmakers and lobbyists who caused the ban can suffer with the rest of them.
yes, I realize this is about AV's with real people, but punishing the people who unknowingly possess this material, while doing ABSOLUTELY nothing to the girls who got these people in trouble is absolutely sickening. reminds me exactly of American laws that jail people who have sexual relations with minors with harsher penalties than violent people and murderers (thankfully I'm a proud American Ex-pat). fucking contradictions.
this has been on my mind for a while...is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems? I realize there are things like blowing things up, whining about it on the internet, and waiting for the apocalypse...but dammit I want things to change for the better now.
Is spreading awareness of the contradictions of the law and actions like these all we can really do? After all in people like the US and Japan, in theory it is 'us' who choose our "leaders", no?
I'm not a fan of Loli, so banning Loli hentai ain't bother me one bit. On the contrary There'll be more MILF, which is what i love.
If your brain worked, you should follow the logical path that after the lolis, the MILF are the next target on the porn industry ban list.
Then i'll just have to go for the real thing. Also If it's profitable, there'll always be the next thing(overseas production etc...) It's not like Hentai could only produced in Japan,.
Take anime for example, almost half of them were produced in Korea, same goes for Hentai.
Make sense?
P.S. No offense, but i hate Loli in the first place(2D and 3D).
go for the real thing??
you do know these things (2d loli, hentai rape anime, tentacles, schoolgirl av) exist because we cant have the real thing...don't you?
p.s. i hate those who hate loli. sue me
you are so right....like if japan ever ban gunpla, i just buy from china made gunpla!! why must i watch japan anime?
make sense?
....no it doesn't!!!
Oh well, all good things must come to an end, I suppose.
After all, the signs were there when USA, Britain and Australia start jailing people who view 2D lolicon manga with sentences longer than people with commit manslaughter. :lol:
Anyway, I guess it's about due time for a 10Km meteor to hit earth in the next decade or so. :D
2012 seems like a good year for it to happen...
Well, an 18 year old in most countries is an adult. Japan's official age of consent laws is 16, and women can get married at 16 legally.
To call a married 16 year old girl a child still would be an insult.
The best way to stop this is for some enterprising politician to tack on an amendment to the law unequivocally accepting responsibility for Nanking. That'd destroy its chances of passing nice and easy.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I like Japanese MILF's mind you as well (called Jukujo. Right?). Still, cute girls in seifuku. Don't you fucking dare take that away from me or anyone.
Fuck all the moral faggot alarmists just because unfortunately, bad shit does happen to children and teens. You can't prevent every single instance or rape. Minority Report, here we come.
If a loli ban does take place i really will become a terrorist
Welcome to England, I guess.
Ah, accidental spam.
I guess it's time to create a new country: where we have everything that's good about Japan's anime, manga, games, culture, technology, and most especially its once-upon-a-time freedom of speech. Oh - and ban femi-nazis from the country and from politics
The one industry that is still hiring is being legislated out of existence. I hope the moral absolutists realize this may not be a good thing.
they wouldn't care, they only care about themsevles
just what the hell is going on!?!
spineless politicians bending to UNICEF now?
Proof be in the puddin' course even most of us can try to support the yakuza
we fight back and help em out then we put these moral hoppin idiots & femnazi's into a corner.
I'm afraid so
There goes the most profitable industry in Japan. What the hell is going on in the world today?
i dun care , just love this pic XD
India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
Have you people ever read history?
Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.
You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.
The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.
And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.
you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice
No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.
I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".
And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.
No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.
I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".
And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.
Oh and it seems i double posted without using my name so ive not corrected that issue.
this says "WESTERN INFLUENCE Creeping to JAPAN" WRITTEN all over it!!!
NOOOOOOOO I can't belive this! Whatever will we do without the sweetness of lolipops in our lives, how dare they take away our sweets? I mean we can discern fiction from reality and it doesn't encourage rape our underage sex, since any moral and sane person understands it's not right push kids to do impure actions sigh
*shrug* Doesn't bother me. Most "loli" characters don't fit my definition of loli, they're "lolitas"
Besides that I like milfs, milf hentai is usually more hot and sticky then loli hentai.
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BLASPHEMY!!!
The FACT of Western Civilization itself being founded by Greek & Roman pederasts & a few Jews… it’s blindingly apparent given the near universal practice of middle aged men being sensually involved with teens (or even pre-teens) that this was regarded not only as normal or even expected, but was actually set forth as an example of the “Highest Ideal”. Aside from Emperor Caligula banning all nursing infant & toddler prostitution in the Empire, for which he was praised (hey, gotta win points with the general populace after forcing the senators (wives) to work in his bordello, grin) & Emperor Domitian banning all sexual relations between adults and girls under the age of eight in the Empire (exception “Adult Entertainment” in the arena.
Mind you, these were both politicians who were considered insane…. I don’t believe this blog has yet reached the level of warranted opprobrium in castigation of feminist hypocrite moralfags. Marked contrast between the more or less reasonable “Morality Crusades” of men, vs. feminists… notwithstanding the elite citizen’s age for female marriage being 14 in Greece, 12 in Rome & 12 in Christendom (or leess for the common people under special or cultural circumstances)..
As in Christendom: Western Civilization is founded upon her eternal Father impregnating (“coming upon” KJV) a Jewish 12 year old named Mary and giving her to a 30 something year old man named Joseph to sleep naked with and boink at least a Quicky on the “real” wedding night to be fully legally married according to Judaism.
Smoke that in your pipe. Go straight to Hell with no get out of jail ticket... ohh Moh his name be lolicon agrees too.
Come now,
Around half+ of all Japanese men from politicians on down to the janitor are into things sailor suit.
Anyhow, don't some 12th graders in school turn 18 during their Senior High year?
Aren't students who flunked out a year or two in earlier grade levels 18 or 19 years of age during their Senior High year in Japan (and U.S.A., Great Britain, etc.)?
That's why "High School" porn has always been legal under any circumstance in the U.S.A. - because you can be/are dealing with "adults".
As long as they don't put them in exclusively (only) Middle School uniforms, put a sign over the school building saying "so and so Middle School", and Title the DVD "Forcible rape of green underage students at so and so Middle School (or Grade School) you are legally in the clear even under draconian laws.
Should be declared unconstitutional immediately.
amirite?
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lolicon-protection-act-of-2008
vote against loliban sign pettion
how could you degenerate down to this JAPAN?
Sorry I take back my last post, I thought this article was talking about 2D aswell.
I don't care if underage AV is banned, it should be!
But my point still stands, if they ban school girl hentai.
Hentai fans unite, kill the Feminazi Gestapo.
School girls are the main and most popular Hentai fetish, this would destroy the whole industry. Japan stand up for yourself, defend your hentai honour.
Artist of the picture? :x
tony
oh my god this pic is awesome.
What a sad, sad future for all of us. Once they take this away, all of our other rights will be taken away one by one as well. And I'm saying this from the perspective of a female.
Rather than submit to that, why not react? (even if we aren't japaneses, it's a world problem and it was mainly provoked by the West).
An awful lot of people are relatively involved, the democraty is a totalitarian system: the number is the power, then we have to use the number.
I'm french so I'm not really aware of all of that, if anyone have a link or else about it (reaction, movement... who knows? xD)...
AWW TIME TO Vent all your lust onto raping woman..
The users on 2ch, even all otaku will be the ones to fight in Japan, I hear they are timid and more aggressive than those spineless cowards heeding to all accosting demands by the evil axis.
Considering how flat some japanese adult women are, trying to be sure is gonna be a bitch.
Perhaps it's a plot to boobify the nation by inculcating a love for huge honkers?
C'mon japan.It isn't so hard to beat this.Make a not on-line petittion.Report on many internet places where the locations of the pettion will be,get real signatures by people signed by hand.Show it to the goverment and the unban will sucseed.
Only if all of you weren't so lazy about this and would actualy fight for it then rather waste your time on the internet arguments.
Only people in japan can help in unbanning this i think.
Surely this is just bringing legislation into line with almost every other country?
Certainly here in the UK, producing or viewing indecent images of minors is a prosecutable offence resulting in hefty jail time, your name being added to a register of sex offenders as well as the obvious social stigmata.
Yes the onus needs to be on producers to ensure that their models are legal, the same as in other countries, otherwise children are still too likely to be exploited.
However reading some of the comments here, it seems that many posters are either already viewing child pornography (yes that is what it is), or do not care if vulnerable children are sexually exploited.
Peter Lorre's namesake,
I recall concerning your marvelous place of residence that unlike most States in America y'all can have sex with 16 year old girls, your newspapers featured topless Page 3 girls some of whom are 16 and 17, your Men's "Girlie" magazines such as Mayfair and others (GB's equivalent of U.S. Playboy/Penthouse) often featured 16 and 17 year fully nude erotic models in and out of school blazers, your strip clubs/Windmill/Soho girls were regularly 16 & 17 years of age...
That was your decades long finestanding tradition until a few years ago... care to explain?
"Bringing legislation into line with almost every other country" is not inherently a good thing. And I don't get why people keep focusing on the issue of who has to prove the models' age. That is only a minor part of the impending restrictions...
what is with all this protect the child hysteria,it's not like that 16y old girl didn't know what she was doing.And it's not like she is actualy still a child,somewhere age of 15,16 is kinda where they can decide for themselfs.But age isn't the limit where one person can properly decide stuff.It's differences how one matures,can be over or lower of that age.
Still she should have no right to be in an av until she is of legal age.And also she tricked them,so why blame the company?
Shure make everyone show ids,that is a proper decision anyway that i support.But people who are legal in av should not be limmited to what they are doing or wearing.
This is good news
dude, you aren't suppose to be here...
Amusing. I saw the Kannagi AV; this surely can't change that much.
noooooooooooo . .
i cant miss my daily dose of japan pron
Can't you people see, this is what the gundam rx-78 was built for!
Destroying those feminists!
well i wish....
Not if they ban mecha
They will use it to force Aso into legalizing all this fetishes that are being banned. That or Aso will eat the best headshot in history.
Japan: Because women past the ripe old age of twenty are no fun to look at™.
Nice.
Tomoyo pic is relevant to my interests.
It may soon be illegal in Japan.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
/me prints out many copies and sends them to critical members involved in this ban.
i do hope for some action. if any ban, they are likely to comply. n when that, oooo... the desires of japanese men will deluge the streets after the dam breaks.
You know.. loli will still exist because other countries will produce it, maybe not manga or anime because their quality will be shit but cg pics of lolis will roam rapid from other countries still after the ban of loli and every other fetish japan has graciously shown us being prohibited. People will try to recreate from the genuine article and sometimes succeed or fail. So cheer up fellow 2d smut lovers, we have the retaliation to look forward to! The final battle against the evil axis!
Taking into account that over 99.9% of that material is produced in Japan and that Japanese are spineless cowards, it will take a long time until the rest of the world will be able to supply the same quantity and quality of the works that would be lost if this continues.
If this shit becomes reality, we'll be one step closer to banning mild ecchi in anime. Which means the market shall be left in despair.
This is what I fear; that eventually ecchiness towards "children", i.e. schoolgirls like the ones found in the mangas To Love-ru, Mahoromatic, Ai yori aoshi, et al. will be banned and such mangas made illegal to own (long, long prison sentences and lifetime inclusion on the Sex Offenders Register come to mind) despite the fact that they've been legally bought in some cases from official sources. Oh the sadness...
Eventually I can see also anime being banned in general "because as it is fantasy and in no way has living characters, that since it has no relation and/or bearing to any living being, doesn't it by extension mean that thus it is harmfull to the minds of individuals watching it and so must be banned"? (*Sarcasm*)
This is not good news.
This is just fucking bullshit.
No actual underage actresses are being
used so what's the big fucking idea?
It's a good thing the Kodomo No Jikan AV
was produced a while back.
All this loli-ban talk does make me worry about the KoJ manga though. It's not hentai but it's damn close.
that would be ban too if it happens
MILF PORN SUX!
FUGLY OLD MOMMYS -.-
WHERE ARE MY DELICIOUS SCHOOL GIRLS D:
If they were fugly, they wouldn't be MILFs, just ugly mothers.
Don't bother correcting people on the correct usage of MILF. Almost nobody uses it correctly anymore.
this all start from that fcking feminists group!
rape them for OUR sake !
then you should go first.. then we will follow from far behind...
Gunso, where is the damned colony drop when we need it? Char Aznable would be glad to even drop Axis on the middle of this shitstorm.
Loli are replenishable, fearing the nazis into oblivion is invaluable. DROP THE COLONIES LIKE GUNDAM X NAO!!!
Damn! I forgot about it... Then we should do a GM rush, kekekeke.
Just as a matter of precaution, we should use the Solar Ray System to protect the colonies from missiles while they are on their way. A nuke could cause a lot of damage to them.
Need to find other alternative… i'm afraid when we doing colony drop all loli will vanish too...
This is too much to handle!!!!!!!
activating anon self distruct
they've banned that too
I'd prefer Jukujo/MILF porn
And if the moralfaggotry continues, not even animes like the on your avatar will be able to exist. Oh, the irony.
i heard that some group of people don't care about rape eroge ban since they prefer "pure love" eroge....
irony indeed...
Correction: "the one on your avatar".
how is the avatar milf? looks very young
Blame the girl not the company they didn't now it's the girls fault! oh and if they forcefully do it then the company should be gotten rid of but if the girl did it then yeah. my concern is the 2d loli ban. quick go out and by large safes and hide your stash!
is agnes chan done yet? this is too much, even AV gravure idols will get a ban. f**k that. >:(
Meh, ban is bound to fail sooner or later.
like the US prohibition.
Oddly enough, Prohibition started up at the same time Fascism was on the rise worldwide.
Coincidence?
Of course not. During harsh times, populists with a more direct and authoritive approach invariably replace the more spoiled and either naive or conservative opposition, whilst winning popular support. They also have a tendency to mess up and run away when they have to clean up.