Japan’s vibrant porn industry is terrified of the draconian nature of the impending loli ban, which not only threatens to ban much 2D material, but also threatens to eviscerate the world of Adult Video with its potentially draconian stipulations.
Porn makers worry that they will be forced to avoid any material featuring girls of marketable age in case they turn out to be underage, and that amateur pornography will be completely illegal as participants will need to all prove their age.
Those pushing the ban also demand any suggestion of a child result in the work being considered child pornography, which could mean any use of a school uniform could result in arrest…
The Diet is currently considering the details of laws which will attempt to criminalise “simple possession” of materials featuring erotic depictions of underage participants (distribution and production of such material is already strictly banned); 2D material has seemingly won a temporary reprieve, but the AV industry is deeply concerned that it will immediately bear the brunt of the new laws.
AV producers recount tales of being duped into making child pornography by lying minors, who are subsequently feted as victims whilst police prosecute the company:
“There was a case of a 16-year-old girl who stole her sister’s ID in order to appear in a porno, but the one who was arrested was the CEO of the company, for making child porn, with the girl being the ‘victim’. That seems to be fraud to us, but in the eyes of the state she was a ‘child’”.
The problem is made worse by the fact that Japan’s proposed law will consider any material featuring participants below (or possibly merely apparently below) 18 to be “children”, whereas more sensible jurisdictions (though not all) make at least some distinction between 16-year-olds and 12-year-olds.
Ambitious proponents of the ban even seek to have any material “apparently” featuring potential minors banned, which would mean that so much as a whiff of a school uniform would result in criminal sanctions, destroying much of the AV industry overnight.
The issue is so acute that some in the industry lament that “Soon we may only be able to make material featuring MILFs (“jukujo”; attractive mature ladies)”.
Another issue is that amateur productions, and perhaps even the videos of individuals, will have to obtain identification from all participants demonstrating that they are over 18, which in many genres of pornography may prove difficult.
Accidentally including any minors, or perhaps even being accused of including a minor and being unable to identify that person, may result in severe criminal charges.
There is also much concern that merely being sent such material, or seeing it in passing on the Internet, may result in a serious offence, a concern exacerbated by the fact that material which possesses no clear provenance may be freely interpreted as illegal.
Via Cyzo.
It remains to be seen whether Japan’s enormous, hugely profitable and presumably well connected porn industry will be able to mount any opposition to the laws; already AV makers and adult magazines are speaking out against the provisions, a far cry from the pathetically supine response of the otaku industries…
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awww shit, my fantasies and dreams, peaches and creams are going down the drain
Finally we'll have some REAL defense. You don't mess with the largest pornography industry of the world (and yakuza-dominated) like it was nothing.
They are our lobbyists, our hope and real answer to the LDP and New Komeito politicians, besides the DP and SDP stances on the issue.
Please Yakuza do something good for a change
Agreed. Go get 'em, you psychotic maniacs.
Reminds me of when I found out I was throwing stones in a police riot with the Hell's Angels on my side *good times* (they were trying to arrest/prevent a pre-scheduled gathering on public forest). Sure we ended up under satellite surveillance the rest of the "camping trip", but what the hell. It was still fun.
MILF & BUSTY NATURAL VIRGIN FTW!!!!!!
Forget the loli...
Oh great... So the "All the characters on this film is above 18" stamp is no longer useful? Way the go~ =_=;;
OMFG MY DAISY COLLECTION WILL BE ILLEGAL THEN FK MY LIFE
Honestly this is not about the loli anymore, this is plain "tought crime" prosecution. This is fasism in it cannonical form and cannot be tolerated.
If these clear transgressions of personal freedom are accepted I'm afraid Japan will sink into the hole the US is going right know.
A new dark age awaits.
No More Loli's - finally some decency and respectability in the AV market. Real men want boobs!
Sorry Loli's your time is up!
There are no loli in the AV market.
ever seen saaya irie? I like mature women too, but some teens sure can shine in the boob area.
wait, does this extent to gravure models as well when they talk about AV? Because it'd make no sense of them to ban something like AV with any hint of underage things (like school uniform) and yet not ban 14 year old girls in bikinis.
I'm not a loli, but don't pick on the lolicon, my fellow jukujo fans. In these dire times we must stand together! ~_~
"you just can't stop people from doing what they love"
that's quoting something I heard today about the prohibition in the 20s. There's ALWAYS a work around. In fact, this will only increase the loli population in the world, and maybe more girls will be like that 16yo who stole her sister's ID because it'll be more forbidden and taboo than before, thus more appealing.
Then again, Japan doesn't seem to have that "fight the power" spirit that America had at various moments in history. They see more like masochists at this point! :P
There`s plenty of youthful looking girls marketed as teens as well as plentiful pettanko and that`s what we`ll see less of if they restrict their policies.
ain't the eroges n eroanime joints connected ta?
so, av's are going to be affected eh?
feminazi flesh shall feel cold japanese yakuza steel.
dumb feminazi bitches are asking for a death wish.
It's always annoyed me how minors are viewed as the victim regardless of the circumstances like when a girl took photos of herself naked with her teacher's cellphone and then called the cops on him. Why can't the law get these things right?
Oh, come on! They're just children. They don't know what they're doing. They're innocent until they reach the totally non-arbitrary age of 18. Can't you understand that?!
Unfortunately that's not true. Being a child does not mean they lack the decision making skills of an adult. And in some cases, a child may even surpass an adult in mental abilities.
Anon always contradict himself.
Word.
Anon's job is to always be at war, even with himself.
The 02-07-2009 00:14 Anon is just being sarcastic ^^;
I hope to God the one after him was too...I don't wanna believe there are people that clueless.
This Anon fails to understand sarcasm.
well its kinda hard spotting sarcasm in writing.. its either he's being sarcastic or trolling..
just asking...where DID the age of 18 limit come from x.x
No idea at all, but we're lucky they aren't going to use 20 as the cutoff age, because that's the age of majority in Japan.
Like stated above, it's really just an arbitrary age that was picked on without any real reason to at the time aside from it seemed like a reasonable point to call them rational adults at the time, but as we all know, rules are something completely infallible and will never fall behind with the times so why should they ever put any effort into changing things?
As I understand it, the 18 years of age thing came from voting/draft-able age (at least in the US). Voting age was originally 21 (like drinking), but lowered in the 70's because the kids being drafted weren't allowed to vote. (not sure why the didn't lower the drinking age with it...) Although I'm not sure when they wrote into law that 18 means you're an adult or when you can be drafted so it possible that happened before 18 year olds were given the vote.
However, seeing as this is roughly the age when people finish high school and head off to college or work, it would seem an acceptable age to deem someone an adult and not a minor who is usually under the care of their parent or guardian. Not sure how it works in other countries, but at least to some degree it would seem likely that there is probably some level of consensus between the peoples of most countries.
But who knows, I'm mostly guessing on the second part.
They did lower the drinking age to 18 in the US during the 70s, but it was raised to 21 because THINK OF THE CHILDREN etc.
The age (whatever age is set) corresponds with what the majority of parents and society of that region agree is the average age when children become adults and are wise enough to make their own decisions. If it's set too low for them to feel comfortable about it, then groups of concerned parents get the government to make them higher. It's almost supposed to be like a failsafe for parent's who don't end up raising their kids properly, or like a "just in case", though more parents rely on it to do their job of making sure their kids do what's "right" than teaching them not to
It's like "disobay me and... you go to hell!"
just in this case it's "disobay us, and you disobay society, and you get into a load of shit for it, and you'll probably also go to hell"
it SHOULD be "if you do this, these are the pros and cons of what will/could happen after wards, these are the risks and benefits, this is how we'll feel about it, this is what we recommend, etc. now that we've told you we hope you'll make the right decisions".
scaring people into not doing something rarely works, and just more often tends to mess people up or even get them to do the opposite of what you think they should do.
the funny thing is, adults get in trouble more often for what the kids should be getting into trouble for as a result of this age limit.
Also, the age of 18, like one of the anons above me said, is probably a result/creation of the school system of today's society. When a teen gets pregnant or get's someone pregnant while they're in school it can have a horrible effect on that teen's studies, and they'll be bringing a child into the world without a proper job to raise one with. So, parents don't want their kids sleeping around, many don't even want them wasting their time with stuff like dating when they should be concentrating on studying. It's kind of forcing them to go against their natures, if you ask me. Unfortunately it's the taboos, forbiddenness, and the word of their "evil" parents that get a lot of teens to want to do it even more. Then they go loose their virginity at an early age and don''t even care to use protection. Parents are afraid to talk to mention anything sexually related to their kids and just stand by as they let the media bombard them with titillating images (that conflict with what they've been taught) instead and hope that the school will teach them whatever they need and that the laws will force them to keep out of trouble. Let's not forget the influence of friends. All that many parents say about sex is refer to sexual things as "dirty", "naughty", "bad", "perverted", "against religion", it creates a conflict as they associate these negative things with things that naturally turn out to make them feel good later in life. Eventually most kids just have to look into all this stuff on their own behind their parent's backs, and the taught of doing something wrong that feels good is exciting to them.
It's just pure FAIL on every level, and the blame for all the problems that slip through the cracks of the laws are always put on the wrong things.
anon got carried away :(
tl;dr, lol
You are saying that now. I'd love to see you reaction if the so called 'child' got you arrested and sent away to jail.
So Japan is destroying itself?
let it be... they'll just realize it in the near feature...
but I'm more concerned about the eroge ban though...
It has indeed made me laugh.
Japan: We're in a recession, what should we do?
Some moron: I know! Let's destroy some of our industries. It can't go wrong.
"We're facing a population crisis and a huge tax-funded pension deficit... What should we do?"
"Quick, discourage sex and start banning the tax-paying sections of the adult entertainment business!"
If eroge and AV is banned, maybe people will start having more duo sex instead of solo sex, which would result in more children.
On the other hand, I wonder how many more women will get raped, and how many more whores they will need..
Maybe they have some kind of plan...?
Let's just wait...
I lol'd.
Maybe they think that with porn and eroge ban, the rape rate will go up and the raped woman will become pregnant and have childs, thus solving their population crisis... lol
First Obama went after the banks, then car companies, next cap & trade, next healthcare, finally education and finally the internet.
It seems he'll be turning to Area 11 (Japan) next and dismantling the Lolicon industry will cripple Japan like Obama is killing America.
Can a One World Gov. & Currancy be far behind?
What the hell are you talking about? How the hell did you manage to slide OBAMA, of all people into this?
Jeez, grow up.
Mugi-chan Eyebrow: Butthurt Republican fagging up the moralfaggotry.
Ragefat: I also thought about that when I read Bastille and Artefact's comments. It's the only logic reasoning behind such stupidity and if that's not it, I wish good luck to all the people on the AV and VN industries will be unemployed during the next year.
LOL @ Mugi-chan, blaming Obama for problems the Republican Regime created for the last 8yrs.
You might as well blame to moon for giving you a sunburn.
How about you, Mugi and Neo, go bitch to your shit government instead of bringing your issues here.
Its strange that Japanese say that, Japan thought taxing every child that is born in Japan would help lower there deficit. They didn't realize how some Japanese ment are real pick with who they choose to Wang bang a chick.
No~! Be Beloved Japan T_T
Why Now!?!?!
MJ,Billy Mays...
WHY!?!?!?!?!?
*Sob*
They really want to destroy themselves. a pity :\
at least dont do MILF pron its what making me sick ><
an milf is fine too
but I like loli more ;_;
You probably haven't seen the good MILF porn.
And you probably haven't seen the good loli
hahaha true
If that ban is established, they would blame it to us!
Fuck those moralfags! They're hypocrites and devils in disguise...
Just goto another country and film the same crap. Are you so dependent on Loli's that you'll never get hard again with Japans AV films?
Evolve! theres plenty of Euro & Amerian AV models that look young enough right? Teenage Topanga scares the crap out of me she looks so young.
yeh man tats rite
I thought the yakuza ran the porn industry in Japan.
Exactly, they are just pretending to be hapless sheep. Difficult to check ID my ass.
They are just a bunch of tattooed men in black suits pretending to be innocent victims. There are plenty of good looking girls who are of age that wouldn't mind being in the industry.
The fact that the business is run by the yakuza is probably what will save it. No such luck for industries run by greasy otaku...
Yeah, this AV hysteria is just bullshit. Just whingey 2ch residents being drama queens.
The yakuza should get into the otaku businesses then, there's no lack of profit in it and it'd keep the industry secure.
Life won't be the same without loli pron.
Theres loli porn in russia? :)
"in russia, loli raeps you"
fucking pedo
+1
- GTFO
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6246/dizarefakelolimc1.jpg
I feel for the loli.
"I want to feel the loli"
Fixed.
For anyone curious, that is from Cannon Sensei Tobashisugi
Unlike the 2D issue which is highly debatable, this can only be good. It will simply lead to the producers to be more astute in ensuring that the girls are at least 18. What stealing ID bullshit? It could be true but it could very well be that they were trying to get out of it by using it as an excuse. I mean how hard is it to check up someone's identity? Fingerprints and passports are right there to ensure that no mistakes will be committed. The industry is just being a fucking whiny wuss or rather pretending to be so, hoping that they can retain the lack of clear cut standards they have so far manage to get by. Any good looking girl at 19 will still be extremely attractive, they are just being complete drama queens, hoping that the easily roused will form some kind of protest.
The complaint about having to prove that all participating girls are at least 18 is only one (a minor one at that) of many though.
I agree that such a regulation is not inherently a bad thing, but when a 16 year old girl goes to such great lengths to get into the AV industry, why should anyone care? At least on paper, the law is meant to prevent abuse and exploitation. I don't see where the abuse and exploitation is in this case...
Law exist so things are clear cut. If they make concessions in cases like that, we know the yakuza are going to exploit this loophole to no ends.
We have to stop meeting like this.
You do have a point, but a compromise is in order. How about lowering the age restriction to 17? It's not like that was something totally unheard of. In Denmark it's 15 if I recall correctly...
The age of concent is 14 in Japan...
I think we are talking about work related age limit.
Yes, we are talking about the age at which you're legal to appear in AV.
Freedom III is wrong anyway, since the (theoretical) AoC in Japan is 13.
Meh, ban is bound to fail sooner or later.
like the US prohibition.
Oddly enough, Prohibition started up at the same time Fascism was on the rise worldwide.
Coincidence?
Of course not. During harsh times, populists with a more direct and authoritive approach invariably replace the more spoiled and either naive or conservative opposition, whilst winning popular support. They also have a tendency to mess up and run away when they have to clean up.
What a bunch of retards! The government & the industries.
Anon have enough! Nippon go on to destroy yourself!
What next? They will ban MILF sex for 'promoting indecent and demeaning behavior towards housewives'? And then they will ban yuri for being 'unnatural and demeaning for women'? Dibs for Martian property if they do, women could eat all the Venus property they need.
Yes, i intentionally left the yaoi because that's what fangirls like.
The feet look all right on this one.
I think it is safe to assume that none of us believed that the eroge ban would go far, well look what happened. The best we can hope now is that this wonderful country doesn't destroy itself completely in a mess started by foreigners.
Well I was kinda hoping that they'd ban 3d but just stay away from 2d. But instead they first attack 2d and work their way up to 3d. Not exactly what I hoped for.
oh shit... does that mean that 4d is next!? i like my time/space porn! T_T
And that's why people (including me) are against any kind of censorship.
Because even if it's done to prevent the worst of the worst out there.. it will be abused and spread to other unrelated things.
I'll tell you now, any ISP installing "CP filters" will soon be filtering out a whole lot more as well.
This!
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/07/01/cosplayer-witches-tma-strike-witches-cosplay-av-quality/
Gonna be banned!
Am not pleased. May go rape entire elementary school in comical response.
Because you have absolutely no self control. XD
I'd like to see the response of the retarded ban-enthusiasts if the loli rape statistics rise like a saturn rocket.
Principles and "morality" turning 180 and sudden hate/opposition to a harmless cultural phenomenon that was once ignored.
Is this that terrifying monstrosity that people call "modernization", or is this the deconstruction of human empathy and tolerance?
Due to promising changes happening in their country, I'm planning to go to Japan and spread the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. Any brave jihadist willing to join my holy cause?
Not funny. Shitty joke is shitty.
No, but I'd like to smuggle my suppressed AR10 and assassinate some LDP members with it. Why go suicidal if you can't see the results of your efforts?
The US porn industry made similar arguments about fraud on the part of under-aged actors/actresses. However laws like this haven't damaged the US porn industry.
Outside of the age thing, Japan's porn industry has a real problem. Outlawing the acting out of fetishes and other types of porn is very subjective.
Japan is turning into America. The world as we know it is being flushed down the drain.
Japan is becoming worse than America.
And that's an enormous feat.
Wow... Ban this and ban that.. How about I ban your balls you motherfuckers...
Bans are getting overrated... Ban violence in shows while your at it. I'd like to see the outcome.
A few months ago, I saw them banning raep games. I stood quietly by the side.
Then I saw them banning 2D lolis, and I still stood quietly by the side.
This time they want to force MILFs onto us. I will stand up!
Arise fellow pedobears, the Republic needs you!
lmfao
WHAT THE FUCK!
That's fucking it! it stops here! I'm going to have to go with Minori about this, we start sending letters, or fucking something!
I refuse to live in a world were there is on MILF porn.
Should I decapitate you in your seppuku?
Japanese government prohibits child porn; pedophiles outraged.
You can't even hide behind the "well they're 2D so it's a victimless crime" argument this time, so face facts.
Switching topics again, Moralist Anon from Ishikei's Comiket Plans article?
Child porn is already illegal, what they want to ban is any kind of fetish that may involve an adult actress that looks like a teenager student. So, resuming, younger looking women are forbidden in Japan. The lulz are too great to sustain.
What really bothers me is that most anime characters are under 18. If this loli ban passes, then will it be illegal to have hentai drawings of Sailor Moon or Evangelion?
Yup.
It will also be illegal to have Konata hentai, because even though she's 18, she looks too much like a loli.
@
Laws does not work like that.
Except in some Christfag American states.
Law *
And soon in Japan too.
Unfortunately, while the Japanese are inert, the moralfaggotry will continue to grow regardless of the people and the companies that they destroy on their path for a perfect world where everyone is being raped when they try to walk on the streets, while the internets and the stores are clean of filthy material like JAVs with young looking women and mangas with drawn lolis.
After all, that is a lot better than the current low number of sexual crimes (in comparison with other developed countries) with the existence of all that filthy porn.
I just hope that they are pissing off the wrong people so that they shit themselves out of fear for what they have done and they finally stop all this moralfaggotry that will only lead to more unemployment and the bankruptcy of dozens of companies affiliated with the hentai and JAV industries.
If it's illegal to have hentai drawings of Sailor Moon, Evangelion or Lucky Star, then the shows themselves will be banned all together. Anime and manga will be forced to make all characters over 18 and even mild fanservice such as a girl showing off her legs or bellybutton will be banned. Japan will lose millions if they actually go through with this.
They will have to sell their own country to cover the hole on their economy.
would they sell their loli? if so, i would love to fill up their holes...
on their economy of course!
Seems like there are a lot of ugly and fat women who need to ban this and need rape to get some sex.
And thanks fuckwit, you are the reason why feminist exist.
lol, I see what you did there!
It's man who make that kind of comments that give men a bad rep. I say butt rape all the stupid men who think making comments like that actually sounds cool.
Best joke imo.
And stop crying,you are just making it worse for everyone.
I was talking about you Fonzer. Go get butt rape because you think making comments like that makes you sound manly.
I know anon,like i said best joke.
Other from me then laughing i don't feel any more manly than i actualy am.
And anon is too much fail to go against me.
But rape with a girl having a strap on i wouldn't mind XD
Also i bet there would be actualy trouble from but rape and i would bleed from my ass,depends how she uses it,i have pretty fine skin.
Anyway anon stop being so much fail.
Actualy the other users are probably laughing at that comment
Fonzer is sooo right.
Bring on the loli ban, its about time.
loli material just breed pedophilia. It has no place in society.
Japan needs to clean up its act, its a disgrace on the world.
Anyone against the ban on lolis is a pervert/pedophile. You need to find some decent values in life.
TAKE! THAT! BACK!
oh the pain of those words.....
"..decent values in life."
I demand non-pointless definition.
Why the fuck would I even go after 3D loli just because I like 2D? Who's getting hurt just by fucking looking at 2d loli? Just fucking who?
Fuck your moralfagness. Japan was the only place that had any fucking freedom in anything. Stop trying to mold Japan into some fucking country like the US or any other western civilization. Stay out of the country's fucking business.
Anon can be the king of retards, like this narrow minded fool.
Lol calling somebody narrow minded. I love it when close minded people call somebody else that.
Lol calling someone close minded. I love it when Anonymous people call somebody else that.
i love it too! but i love loli more...
Moralfag troll is a troll.
and a moarlfag.
Yeah, because Japan is the country with the largest number of rape victims and child molesters. /sarcasm
I slowly begin to think that you're not actually a troll, but really believe the enormous bullcrap you're talking.
You seriously are one of the most retarded people I've ever encountered on the internet to date.
This anon reminds me of someone.
Then why in the fuck are you here. GTFO you piece of shit head. And don't pretend you never watch loli before...
Oh wait I forgot, Anon is suppose to bring drama
u r a disgrace
is agnes chan done yet? this is too much, even AV gravure idols will get a ban. f**k that. >:(
Can't you people see, this is what the gundam rx-78 was built for!
Destroying those feminists!
well i wish....
They will use it to force Aso into legalizing all this fetishes that are being banned. That or Aso will eat the best headshot in history.
Not if they ban mecha
Japan: Because women past the ripe old age of twenty are no fun to look at™.
Nice.
Tomoyo pic is relevant to my interests.
It may soon be illegal in Japan.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
/me prints out many copies and sends them to critical members involved in this ban.
i do hope for some action. if any ban, they are likely to comply. n when that, oooo... the desires of japanese men will deluge the streets after the dam breaks.
noooooooooooo . .
i cant miss my daily dose of japan pron
what is with all this protect the child hysteria,it's not like that 16y old girl didn't know what she was doing.And it's not like she is actualy still a child,somewhere age of 15,16 is kinda where they can decide for themselfs.But age isn't the limit where one person can properly decide stuff.It's differences how one matures,can be over or lower of that age.
Still she should have no right to be in an av until she is of legal age.And also she tricked them,so why blame the company?
Shure make everyone show ids,that is a proper decision anyway that i support.But people who are legal in av should not be limmited to what they are doing or wearing.
Amusing. I saw the Kannagi AV; this surely can't change that much.
This is good news
dude, you aren't suppose to be here...
You know.. loli will still exist because other countries will produce it, maybe not manga or anime because their quality will be shit but cg pics of lolis will roam rapid from other countries still after the ban of loli and every other fetish japan has graciously shown us being prohibited. People will try to recreate from the genuine article and sometimes succeed or fail. So cheer up fellow 2d smut lovers, we have the retaliation to look forward to! The final battle against the evil axis!
Taking into account that over 99.9% of that material is produced in Japan and that Japanese are spineless cowards, it will take a long time until the rest of the world will be able to supply the same quantity and quality of the works that would be lost if this continues.
this all start from that fcking feminists group!
rape them for OUR sake !
then you should go first.. then we will follow from far behind...
Gunso, where is the damned colony drop when we need it? Char Aznable would be glad to even drop Axis on the middle of this shitstorm.
Need to find other alternative… i'm afraid when we doing colony drop all loli will vanish too...
Damn! I forgot about it... Then we should do a GM rush, kekekeke.
Loli are replenishable, fearing the nazis into oblivion is invaluable. DROP THE COLONIES LIKE GUNDAM X NAO!!!
Just as a matter of precaution, we should use the Solar Ray System to protect the colonies from missiles while they are on their way. A nuke could cause a lot of damage to them.
This is too much to handle!!!!!!!
activating anon self distruct
they've banned that too
Blame the girl not the company they didn't now it's the girls fault! oh and if they forcefully do it then the company should be gotten rid of but if the girl did it then yeah. my concern is the 2d loli ban. quick go out and by large safes and hide your stash!
I'd prefer Jukujo/MILF porn
And if the moralfaggotry continues, not even animes like the on your avatar will be able to exist. Oh, the irony.
Correction: "the one on your avatar".
how is the avatar milf? looks very young
i heard that some group of people don't care about rape eroge ban since they prefer "pure love" eroge....
irony indeed...
MILF PORN SUX!
FUGLY OLD MOMMYS -.-
WHERE ARE MY DELICIOUS SCHOOL GIRLS D:
If they were fugly, they wouldn't be MILFs, just ugly mothers.
Don't bother correcting people on the correct usage of MILF. Almost nobody uses it correctly anymore.
If this shit becomes reality, we'll be one step closer to banning mild ecchi in anime. Which means the market shall be left in despair.
This is what I fear; that eventually ecchiness towards "children", i.e. schoolgirls like the ones found in the mangas To Love-ru, Mahoromatic, Ai yori aoshi, et al. will be banned and such mangas made illegal to own (long, long prison sentences and lifetime inclusion on the Sex Offenders Register come to mind) despite the fact that they've been legally bought in some cases from official sources. Oh the sadness...
Eventually I can see also anime being banned in general "because as it is fantasy and in no way has living characters, that since it has no relation and/or bearing to any living being, doesn't it by extension mean that thus it is harmfull to the minds of individuals watching it and so must be banned"? (*Sarcasm*)
This is just fucking bullshit.
No actual underage actresses are being
used so what's the big fucking idea?
It's a good thing the Kodomo No Jikan AV
was produced a while back.
All this loli-ban talk does make me worry about the KoJ manga though. It's not hentai but it's damn close.
that would be ban too if it happens
This is not good news.
do they actually realize that they are going to destroy alot of People who will be unemployed ?
making people unemployed has never been a worry to anyone, anywhere
When those people can put you out of the office on the next elections, it is something to worry about.
I see this as a good thing, the bigger the impact of the ban the more desperate they will be to fight and as more people join the counter movement they gain strength.
Who knows, maybe the japs will finally grow the balls to fight for their freedom.
An official and obviously adult AV in a uniform pretending to be a kid, CP? Yeah this is the extreme of the ridiculous to protect the fictitious kids. Retarded.
Except that the Japanese are more conformist even than Americans - it'll take a lot to get them to do anything.
I'm hoping for a massive snapping/reoccurrence of the otaku murderer to prove them wrong
There you have it. The moralfags only needed to take a small step after imposing their will on the visual novels industry without any kind of opposition. Keep going Japan and people will only be able to have sex on the missionary position with their husband/wife and that, only for the act of procriation. *claps*
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO is it real!!!!!!??
I wonder now how many people will go to jail now... how many will commit suicide..how many will lose their jobs and how many will go to rape lolis... Zetsuboshita!!!!
we need new series of zetsubou sensei NOW!!
Buy new disks and save and protect these materials for future generations!
some doomsday vault huh?
Sigh, its all that can be said, ppl just turn a blind eye,not realizing the teens arent what they used to be, nothing more can be said, no one will listen and they have already decided what to do, not even all the protests on the world can stop this.
Just one thing to do, download as much loli comics/pics/hentai as possible before they start to remove these torrents from trackers.
i'm buying new hdd next week! my current hdds are all full... of sweet 2d loli!
All I know is that hose damn feminists took things too far this time, they must be prepared to die...
By 2012, all forms of pornography will cease to exist. Special Anti-Loli Taskforce teams will be set up to hunt down and persecute any of those who possess pornographic materials...
And then they keep all those pornographic materials to enjoy it them self, at least that seem to be happening in my country T_T. Thank god we still have the Internet. We are living in a world that govern by hypocrites, will it ever end??? After the next world war perhaps.
Banning loli porn is discrimination against young women and women who happen to look younger than they really are.
There, I've found our weapon for just retaliation.
maybe the japanese will grow some fucking balls, and fight back,...probably not though
Weeks ago I said the feminists are pushing so otaku should fight instead of continue discussing and chattering.
however people said the feminists would not be able to do so because it's against freedom of speech
time by time, I am proven right. First loli ban 2 years ago, then the rape ban, then the multi-category ban, and now loli total ban and AV ban.
Yet you people are still "discussing and cursing"
There is nothing to be achieved from such group of moron and cowards.
You people indeed deserve the ban because YOU NEVER BOTHER FIGHT.
1. rape games banned -> I said otaku shall fight, not chat -> people say the ban will eventually stop
then
more categories banned -> I emphasized that fighting is needed, like a demonstration -> people continue to curse feminists and chat
then
a possible total-ban on loli in eroge and AV is now coming -> people continue to ......
haha
I shall enjoy watching how you morons will react when you get total-ban in ALL EROGE.
hmm in america alcohol was ban on what would be known as the prohibition. it lasted for 13 years. raised by moralest if failed majorly by being unable to full enforce it. while it can be said that this ban won't last if pass. it doesn't mean that it wouldn't die overnight.
The yakuza will have to start fucking up Japanese police and politicians.
Exactly. I hope they kill all those bastards and bitches related to he ban.
so.... any advice how to fight them?
Oh come on, start suck a useless war is so... unprofitable, why must we fight why the direct victims not even bother to fight for them self ??? Ah, and I don't give a shit if they ban all eroge though, I can create em to enjoy my self =P
See, the ones making the biggest hoopla are the ones that won't be getting any. The only relationship they will ever have is with Mrs Hand.
India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
Have you people ever read history?
Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.
You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.
The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.
And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.
you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice
India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
Have you people ever read history?
Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.
You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.
The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.
And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.
you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice
aweet image
Eden of the East studio have ability to see the future
Only one word for everyone: Sideboobs.
Lol. Oh well, wasn't much of a fan of the real-life "loli" anyways. Usually they tend to use old hags in school uniforms and put "loli" on the cover >.>
Noooo not the eroge. Why does the world have to came to this.
Due To Femnists and People who abuse the fact of morality
Hell but we need to fight for eroge no matter what!
Fock UNICEF Fock feminists fock you all !¬¬
to me this av version of the anime is in the same level of quality of the live action of hollywood for that deserver be banned for bad.
3d lolis suck.
2d lolis 1000 times better.
i get it know, the goal is to make everyone get into prison, there once inside, they can do all the loli material they want, they can see all what they want, but they will not need to work, or worry about having a place since the estate will provide for all of them, thus making prisons a paradise
by the way weren't the japanese promoting strike witches as part of their cultural excellence?
i read that here, what will be their position regarding that now?
actualy yes they did,strike witches is culture FTW.
Well, at least now it will probably hit where it hurts and PERHAPS someone will do something regarding this stupid bullshit that has being going around to protect fictional children on anime and "affiliates". It's not like there are a ton of REAL children in dire need for education and helth care around the world right?!
Also I hope people don't stop there and fucking arrange public executions to whoever thinks is moral enough to impose a ban on someone's creative work for any freaking reason!
it's becasue groups like thes failed to protect and help real children. this is a distraction from their eniblity to do their jobs
Protecting real children is too much of a hard job for them. It's easier to whine about fiction, since fiction is not real.
If loli gets banned i will die
I'll sends flowers to your next of kin
These bans will likely go through as japan just rolls over when someone says they are doing something "wrong". Japan won't even fight censorship laws, so its unlikely they will fight a ban on anything, they will just bend over and take it like they always do, because they are afraid of appearing strange to foreigners
If the whaling issue is any indication, the AV industry might actually be able to pull it off and prevent this ban from happening. Matter of fact: Japan has been put under MUCH more pressure over whaling and resisted successfully, and I think JAVs are even more profitable than whaling.
Was whaling much more profitable than making eroge? if there's too much income, nobody would really give a real damn about a ban. If eroge is a smaller market, then it might be more pressured to bend over than whaling.
Has more to do with political organisation that market size. The fishing industry is a well organised lobby.
i dun mind if they ban whaling, but not loli
this i just bullshit! I myself is 16 and a girl does not approve of this D: this just stupid and exagerating way too much.
On a somewhat unrelated note, that is a fantastic Tomoyo pic.
Enjoy it while it's still legal.
i'm saving ALL the 2d pics i come across from now on..
Things are just blowing up around Japan. I hardly ever knew anything about Loli. Well this ban is getting everybody riled up, that's the only thing I know.
So now it's illegal to LOOK underage? WTF? Seriously Japan stand the fuck up for yourselves. If you let these bans go through then I won't feel bad when America renames you Area 11.
hopefully under the control of america, all av will be unbanned and uncensored!!! and everyone can have their sweet 2d loli back.
Why not also ban all kinds of anime with girls look like under 18 then ? Bye bye Pokemon or better, ban all animation in the world. Ban loli is a pure stupidity for me.
I knew sooner or later they will try to curb the AV industry. Hentai manga and Doujinshi are up next in the chopping block.
It's gonna go underground next. But expect to pay a high price for your loli fix.
The yakuza equivalent of Al Capone and 'Lucky' Lucianno will still want their 'cut', see?
japan is doomed lol
Damn. And here I was planing on moving to Japan when I have the money.
Never mind the newsitem.. OP = awesome
DESTROY THEM!
I hope all this stupidness eventualy fizzles out. Why cant some people just leave other people alone to do what they enjoy?
Also that pic is ober hot.
I really don't understand these bans. Is it really so hard to tell these feminists "No". What happened to Japan's male superiority attitude? If Japan wants to give women equality then that's fine but there are better ways to do it. At this rate Japanese men will be castrated at birth.
What has this got to do with feminist? This is about lawmaking, diet and lobbying.
the world's leaders...
wait... can we still call them leaders?
of course you can! they are still our leader with their great leadershit. because of them, our fake schoolgirls and fake loli will be saved! at long last!
No more seifuku?
Oh god I just can't imagine that.
Most of the VNs that I know of have seifuku in them...
God I wish I was still underaged.
I'd litter the internets with nude pictures of myself and videos of myself masturbating.
go go go!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I like Japanese MILF's mind you as well (called Jukujo. Right?). Still, cute girls in seifuku. Don't you fucking dare take that away from me or anyone.
Fuck all the moral faggot alarmists just because unfortunately, bad shit does happen to children and teens. You can't prevent every single instance or rape. Minority Report, here we come.
The best way to stop this is for some enterprising politician to tack on an amendment to the law unequivocally accepting responsibility for Nanking. That'd destroy its chances of passing nice and easy.
I'm not a fan of Loli, so banning Loli hentai ain't bother me one bit. On the contrary There'll be more MILF, which is what i love.
If your brain worked, you should follow the logical path that after the lolis, the MILF are the next target on the porn industry ban list.
Then i'll just have to go for the real thing. Also If it's profitable, there'll always be the next thing(overseas production etc...) It's not like Hentai could only produced in Japan,.
Take anime for example, almost half of them were produced in Korea, same goes for Hentai.
Make sense?
P.S. No offense, but i hate Loli in the first place(2D and 3D).
you are so right....like if japan ever ban gunpla, i just buy from china made gunpla!! why must i watch japan anime?
make sense?
....no it doesn't!!!
go for the real thing??
you do know these things (2d loli, hentai rape anime, tentacles, schoolgirl av) exist because we cant have the real thing...don't you?
p.s. i hate those who hate loli. sue me
Oh well, all good things must come to an end, I suppose.
After all, the signs were there when USA, Britain and Australia start jailing people who view 2D lolicon manga with sentences longer than people with commit manslaughter. :lol:
Anyway, I guess it's about due time for a 10Km meteor to hit earth in the next decade or so. :D
2012 seems like a good year for it to happen...
Well, an 18 year old in most countries is an adult. Japan's official age of consent laws is 16, and women can get married at 16 legally.
To call a married 16 year old girl a child still would be an insult.
The one industry that is still hiring is being legislated out of existence. I hope the moral absolutists realize this may not be a good thing.
they wouldn't care, they only care about themsevles
If a loli ban does take place i really will become a terrorist
Welcome to England, I guess.
Ah, accidental spam.
I guess it's time to create a new country: where we have everything that's good about Japan's anime, manga, games, culture, technology, and most especially its once-upon-a-time freedom of speech. Oh - and ban femi-nazis from the country and from politics
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!! :(
Must ... have ... lolicon pronz, i honestly hope this will never be implented and that the moralfags that rather go about fixing rights for internet girls instead of helping real people in africa or real rape victims rather then focusing on banning this just gets a grip and dies in a fire.
Off to download some
save the loli's >.<;
shit, first the anime and loli market and now av.
what's with these Japanese lawmakers, haven't they got anything else better to do like fix the economy or address the nation's faltering birth rates and decreasing population.
....
never mind, due to the demise of porn and av, rape can probably solve at least some of those problems.
I guess this is what Aso has been talking about all this time. The otaku tourism isn't about buying anime, manga and/or merchandising. It's about raping their women and their teenagers so that they have plenty of people in 20 years to pay for the shit that they are doing right now.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE THIS INDUSTRY?! MY FELLOW OTAKUS AND FELLOW WEABOOS ALIKE, WE MUST HELP DEFEND JAPAN FROM THE EVIL THAT IS FASCIST MORALITY!!! THERE IS NOTHING MORE OF A HYPOCRISY THAN A MORALIST WHO FORBIDS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!
WHY ARE WE KEEPING OUR RAGES INSIDE US, CHATTING WITH OTHER ANONS LIKE IT WAS ANOTHER ORDINARY DAY??
IF WE DO NOT ACT, WE WILL BE THE SAME AS SPINELESS JAPAN WHO CANNOT EVEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THESE F*UCKING FASCISTS!!
I SAY, WE FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!
I SAY, WE BEGIN OUT OWN REVOLUTION!!
I SAY, WE FIGHT DA POWA!!!
WHO'S WITH ME?! THE NEW FACE OF THE INTERNET!!
Last resort....
sell Loliporn in net with passwords... the internet is our last frontier for us outlaws....
to all banners of loli porn: May you all go to hell's 5th level and burn to crisp with your families and children! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
In the US you are a sex offender if you are under age and take nude pictures of yourself. Next if are over the age of 18 and look under the age of 18 you will be taken out and shot, because the law via inane modern society dose not have a place for you.
God I miss the days when a crime was something listed and vague.......
reading about things like this makes me sick to my stomach. the only condolence I can find in this is that if the ban goes through and the Japanese economy suffers, at least the lawmakers and lobbyists who caused the ban can suffer with the rest of them.
yes, I realize this is about AV's with real people, but punishing the people who unknowingly possess this material, while doing ABSOLUTELY nothing to the girls who got these people in trouble is absolutely sickening. reminds me exactly of American laws that jail people who have sexual relations with minors with harsher penalties than violent people and murderers (thankfully I'm a proud American Ex-pat). fucking contradictions.
this has been on my mind for a while...is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems? I realize there are things like blowing things up, whining about it on the internet, and waiting for the apocalypse...but dammit I want things to change for the better now.
Is spreading awareness of the contradictions of the law and actions like these all we can really do? After all in people like the US and Japan, in theory it is 'us' who choose our "leaders", no?
I would just like to mention too , for some of us its not about being pro or anti loli, its about being anti-censorship. I think its possible to not like loli but see that these bans or completely unreasonable.
^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed anoying that pretty would kill any artistic idea known so far
Just to note made a few typos
"^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed *annoying and that it would pretty much kill any artistic idea know so far"
There goes them schoolgirls... DAMN YOU AGNES-CHAN!
WTF? Are there even any underaged girls in AV (ADULT VIDEO) right now? Isn't that ALREADY not allowed?? The only idol I can think of that even posed topless before 18 was FUKO, and I think she was 17 when she did that, and now she's in gravure and not AV.
The users on 2ch, even all otaku will be the ones to fight in Japan, I hear they are timid and more aggressive than those spineless cowards heeding to all accosting demands by the evil axis.
Surely this is just bringing legislation into line with almost every other country?
Certainly here in the UK, producing or viewing indecent images of minors is a prosecutable offence resulting in hefty jail time, your name being added to a register of sex offenders as well as the obvious social stigmata.
Yes the onus needs to be on producers to ensure that their models are legal, the same as in other countries, otherwise children are still too likely to be exploited.
However reading some of the comments here, it seems that many posters are either already viewing child pornography (yes that is what it is), or do not care if vulnerable children are sexually exploited.
"Bringing legislation into line with almost every other country" is not inherently a good thing. And I don't get why people keep focusing on the issue of who has to prove the models' age. That is only a minor part of the impending restrictions...
Peter Lorre's namesake,
I recall concerning your marvelous place of residence that unlike most States in America y'all can have sex with 16 year old girls, your newspapers featured topless Page 3 girls some of whom are 16 and 17, your Men's "Girlie" magazines such as Mayfair and others (GB's equivalent of U.S. Playboy/Penthouse) often featured 16 and 17 year fully nude erotic models in and out of school blazers, your strip clubs/Windmill/Soho girls were regularly 16 & 17 years of age...
That was your decades long finestanding tradition until a few years ago... care to explain?
C'mon japan.It isn't so hard to beat this.Make a not on-line petittion.Report on many internet places where the locations of the pettion will be,get real signatures by people signed by hand.Show it to the goverment and the unban will sucseed.
Only if all of you weren't so lazy about this and would actualy fight for it then rather waste your time on the internet arguments.
Only people in japan can help in unbanning this i think.
Considering how flat some japanese adult women are, trying to be sure is gonna be a bitch.
Perhaps it's a plot to boobify the nation by inculcating a love for huge honkers?
AWW TIME TO Vent all your lust onto raping woman..
India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
Have you people ever read history?
Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.
You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.
The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.
And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.
you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice
just what the hell is going on!?!
spineless politicians bending to UNICEF now?
Proof be in the puddin' course even most of us can try to support the yakuza
we fight back and help em out then we put these moral hoppin idiots & femnazi's into a corner.
I'm afraid so
i dun care , just love this pic XD
There goes the most profitable industry in Japan. What the hell is going on in the world today?
No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.
I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".
And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.
No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.
I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".
And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.
Oh and it seems i double posted without using my name so ive not corrected that issue.
Hentai fans unite, kill the Feminazi Gestapo.
School girls are the main and most popular Hentai fetish, this would destroy the whole industry. Japan stand up for yourself, defend your hentai honour.
Sorry I take back my last post, I thought this article was talking about 2D aswell.
I don't care if underage AV is banned, it should be!
But my point still stands, if they ban school girl hentai.
how could you degenerate down to this JAPAN?
Artist of the picture? :x
tony
oh my god this pic is awesome.
What a sad, sad future for all of us. Once they take this away, all of our other rights will be taken away one by one as well. And I'm saying this from the perspective of a female.
Rather than submit to that, why not react? (even if we aren't japaneses, it's a world problem and it was mainly provoked by the West).
An awful lot of people are relatively involved, the democraty is a totalitarian system: the number is the power, then we have to use the number.
I'm french so I'm not really aware of all of that, if anyone have a link or else about it (reaction, movement... who knows? xD)...
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lolicon-protection-act-of-2008
vote against loliban sign pettion
Come now,
Around half+ of all Japanese men from politicians on down to the janitor are into things sailor suit.
Anyhow, don't some 12th graders in school turn 18 during their Senior High year?
Aren't students who flunked out a year or two in earlier grade levels 18 or 19 years of age during their Senior High year in Japan (and U.S.A., Great Britain, etc.)?
That's why "High School" porn has always been legal under any circumstance in the U.S.A. - because you can be/are dealing with "adults".
As long as they don't put them in exclusively (only) Middle School uniforms, put a sign over the school building saying "so and so Middle School", and Title the DVD "Forcible rape of green underage students at so and so Middle School (or Grade School) you are legally in the clear even under draconian laws.
Should be declared unconstitutional immediately.
amirite?
NOOOOOOOO I can't belive this! Whatever will we do without the sweetness of lolipops in our lives, how dare they take away our sweets? I mean we can discern fiction from reality and it doesn't encourage rape our underage sex, since any moral and sane person understands it's not right push kids to do impure actions sigh
this says "WESTERN INFLUENCE Creeping to JAPAN" WRITTEN all over it!!!
*shrug* Doesn't bother me. Most "loli" characters don't fit my definition of loli, they're "lolitas"
Besides that I like milfs, milf hentai is usually more hot and sticky then loli hentai.